Nullification

©2010 drkate

The sovereignty reserved to the states, was reserved to protect the citizens from acts of violence by the United States, as well as for purposes of domestic regulation.

The concept of ‘nullification’ is gaining increasing attention as a way to check the encroachment of the federal government, and is applicable both in a jury situation as well as at the state level.  The discussion of nullification gets right at the correct balance of power between the federal and state governments in our Constitutional Republic.

While the states have a long tradition in the  use of nullification of unconstitutional federal law, the most common focus of the ‘nullification’ discussion relates to the Civil War.  Thus, mention the concept of nullification in any kind of conversation, and one is  instantly accused of being anti-government and wanting to secede from the United States.  One is assumed to be in favor of a civil war now–between the states and the federal government, between the left and the right wing, ad naseum.  Visions of the Civil War, of course, enable the ensuing if subtle accusations of racism.  And  current ‘popular’ assessments of nullification assert that the doctrine has been completely rejected.

So to effectively use nullification as a viable tool to restore our Constitutional Republic, three concepts need to be clearly understood:

  • Where the sovereign power to control the federal government rests
  • The state tradition of nullification
  • The Civil War’s initiation and the role of  nullification

The Power to Control the Federal Government

From the time of the Constitutional Convention forward, those favoring a consolidated supreme national government have incorrectly asserted that the sovereign power that established and controls the federal government rests in the American people rather than in each of the states and their respective people. This invalid argument  has undermined the sovereignty of the states and their people, who through their state government are adequately equipped to check and balance the federal government from expanding its power beyond its constitutional authority…

Martyn Babitz, in the Illusion of Freedom, asserts that the overall American people did not create the Constitution themselves, but did so through their state representatives–as witnessed by the last words of the Declaration of Independence:

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress Assembled….

…and in the Continental Congress that produced the Articles of Confederation, as well as the Constitutional Convention that produced the Constitution. The people of the states sent their elected representatives to act on their behalf.  Each state organized their own conventions to ratify the Constitution

Although the American people are a tangible group of people that inhabit the United States, the overall American people are not a political or legal entity under the Constitution.  Babitz notes that “every power delineated in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is derived from the sovereign power of the people who inhabit the states”.

Significance

When describing nullification, a common retort is that ‘there are no such things as ‘states rights’.  Here some will assert that “the American people”, not the states wrote the Constitution. Beware this trap, and this opportunity to educate.

Recall the history of ‘states rights’ being derided, ridiculed, and associated with ‘right wing extremism’.  The Sagebrush Rebellion is often discussed as the west’s general break-away from federal bureaucrat’s control over the western landscape, and was demonized in the press.  The incorrect assertion that nullification was  the initiator of the Civil War,  is representative of a ‘states rights’ position, and is thus invalid and incompatible with the constitution is designed to drown any initiative against a supreme, national government.

State Tradition of Nullification

The Tenth Amendment Center provides a fascinating history of the long and constitutional tradition of nullification in the United States:

In 1798, the legislatures of Virginia and Kentucky approved resolutions that affirmed the states’ right to resist federal encroachments on their powers. If the federal government has the exclusive right to judge the extent of its own powers, warned the resolutions’ authors (James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, respectively), it will continue to grow – regardless of elections, the separation of powers, and other much-touted limits on government power. The Virginia Resolutions spoke of the states’ right to “interpose” between the federal government and the people of the state; the Kentucky Resolutions (in a 1799 follow-up to the original resolutions) used the term “nullification” – the states, they said, could nullify unconstitutional federal laws. These ideas became known as the “Principles of ’98.”

Several events have drawn nullification by states throughout history, some in direct contrast to federal court rulings:

  • Embargo of 1807-1809. Because of french and British depredation on American ships, and to attempt to stop the British and French from fighting, Jefferson issued an embargo which forbade any American ship from leaving port, and authorized the Navy to stop and search any ship that was suspected of breaking the embargo.  The states in New England were especially hard hit by the embargo as their economy depended on the trade, and although a federal court ruled the embargo constitutional, the Massachusetts legislature thought otherwise. The states of New York, Connecticut, and Rhode Island supported Massachusetts by passing resolutions forbidding any state authority from assisting in enforcing the embargo.  This statement by the Governor of Connecticut is particularly relevant:

“Whenever our national legislature is led to overleap the prescribed bounds of their constitutional powers, on the State Legislatures, in great emergencies, devolves the arduous task – it is their right – it becomes their duty, to interpose their protecting shield between the right and liberty of the people, and the assumed power of the General Government.”

The Connecticut General Assembly followed with this statement:

“Resolved, that to preserve the Union, and support the Constitution of the United States, it becomes the duty of the Legislatures of the States, in such a crisis of affairs, vigilantly to watch over, and vigorously to maintain, the powers not delegated to the United States, but reserved to the States respectively, or to the people…

  • War of 1812. Massachusetts and Connecticut were ordered by the President to call out their respective militias to defend their respective coasts under the authority to call the state militias into service “to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.”  The States believed that they had the right to determine whether any of these conditions existed.  The Massachusetts Supreme Court offered its opinion:

“As this power is not delegated to the United States by the Federal Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, it is reserved to the states, respectively; and from the nature of the power, it must be exercised by those with whom the states have respectively entrusted the chief command of the militia.”

Supporting the concern that this war was a war of aggression, or an offensive war, and that state-based militias could not be called into national service, Daniel Webster stated:

“Where is it written in the Constitution,” he asked, “in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it?”

Further embargoes instituted in 1812 further alarmed the states.  Basing their arguments on the Constitution, the Massachusetts General Assembly stated:

A power to regulate commerce is abused, when employed to destroy it

  • Fugitive Slave Laws. Although the Constitution did not rule out slavery, additional repugnant laws were passed regarding the so-called fugitive slaves.  The northern states simply refused to comply.  The Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 brought the wrath of several state governments as to the federal government’s exclusive authority to judge itself, as this statement from the Wisconsin Supreme Court demonstrates:

Resolved, That the government formed by the Constitution of the United States was not the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; but that, as in all other cases of compact among parties having no common judge, each party has an equal right to judge for itself, as well of infractions as of the mode and measure of redress.

Significance

In each of the instances above, the view of the state relationship with the federal government was that of a compact between a limited federal government and a confederation of independent, free, sovereign states.  Indeed, this was the concept advanced in the original definition of  ‘federal’:

Consisting of a compact between parties, particularly and chiefly between states or nations, founded on alliance by contract or mutual agreement; as a federal government, such as that of the United States

The derision of states rights and evisceration of the states right to nullify federal legislation seems to follow this more ‘modern’ definition of ‘federal':

“Formed by compact between political units that surrender their individual sovereignty to a central authority but retain limited residuary powers of government,” and “of or constituting a form of government in which power is distributed between a central authority and a number of constituent territorial units”

The Constitution itself provides the basis for state nullification of federal law, especially those laws that clearly violate the Constitution.  Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution has already been invoked to repel intrusive federal laws. In addition many states have enacted Tenth Amendment Resolutions and legislation; this provides the people of each of the sovereign states an enormous opportunity to reject intrusive and unconstitutional actions of the federal government.

The Civil War

The discussion of ‘nullification’ in  American history textbooks is largely confined to the actions of  South Carolina to reject the tariffs of  1828 and 1832, and the southern states  seceding from the Union.  Little attention is paid to the economic and political factors that directly contributed to the conflict, including the passage of laws which protected northern businesses at the expense of southern businesses.

The tariffs were constitutionally valid under the condition that they were to be uniform throughout the United States.  The effect of the tariffs was not uniform, however, and this is what South Carolina objected to, threatening to secede if nothing was done.  The objection to the tariffs based on effect, however, is not a constitutional position.

While the Constitution is silent on secession, at any time, three-quarters of the states could meet to amend the Constitution to allow specifically for secession or dissolving of the Union.  Abraham Lincoln, in his inaugural address, incorrectly asserted that

‘the national constitution will endure forever–it being impossible to destroy it except by some action not provided for in the instrument itself…

The ‘instrument itself’ is the Constitution, specifically Article V.  Did the actions of the seceding states, outside of Article V, justify the north enforcing the union?  Why did Lincoln have to add the cause of slavery to get people to fund and fight the war?

Significance

The significance of the Civil War history lies in its treatment of ‘states rights’ and nullification.  Needless to say, we have not been told the whole story of this tragic episode in our history.   As to any charge that ‘states rights’ or ‘nullification’ leads to the Civil War needs to be met head on with the truth.

‘Nullification’ scares people because they don’t know the history of our country.  When you use the term, and speak with people, help them learn.

The Road to Liberty

State based action is as important, if not more critical, than national action at this time. Tenth Amendment actions are a critical part of the plan.  The wall that must be broken down is that of the fear of nullification and the derision of ‘states rights’.  States rights do exist, they are your rights as a sovereign member of a free and independent state.

Make it so!

128 Responses to “Nullification”


  1. 1 Rich T August 22, 2010 at 3:00 am

    Bravo Dr. Kate. You have taken an immensley complex subject and made it understanable in laymans terms.

    While many states have proposed/enacted 10th Amendment legislature, it remains to be seen how far they will go in this.

    I think once the ice is broken, as with the state produce firearms that are not subject the FFL laws, and the states have won and pushed back the Federal Government, we will see a snowball effect.

    All we need is the seed to start. With one seed we can grow a field. With that field we can feed a Nation.

    May God bless us on our journey of Freedom.

  2. 2 no-nonsense-nancy August 22, 2010 at 9:00 am

    Great article, Dr. Kate. Rich T says what my sentiments are. I recently read “A Brilliant Solution” by Carol Berkin in which she gives an almost day to day account of the writing of the Constitution. Many of the delegates went there opposing any kind of central government at all. They tried very hard to hold out for more states rights.

    We WILL set our country right. It will take some time but I think all the states will come around and demand their rights back. Education is the key. Many of our state elected officials are probably not even that familiar with the Constitution.

    We can start by educating DC and the country on the meaning of “natural born citizen” and how Obama is eligible for POTUS. Let’s go to Washington and:

    STOP THEM COLD

  3. 3 tiger 7 August 22, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Dr. K, you have raised a point very dear to my heart—the states hold the ultimate answer to our current mess. Many years ago, my Father was a great believer in states rights. He was quite outspoken against FDR and his degradation of the states.He understood the little-known aspects of the Civil War that you point out.
    I contend the solution to our problem will, indeed, come from action by the states—granted states are run by politicians but citizens are becoming more active as witness the TEA party efforts. There are definite signs in that direction, as you mention. Several states reacting with gun laws, immigration laws,obamacare law suits–the worm is beginning to turn.
    Exellent write-up–you continue to amaze me!!!

  4. 4 drkate August 22, 2010 at 12:28 pm

    Nullification seen as one part of the evolution of revolution in the United States…a very good read:

    http://libertydefenseleague.com/2010/08/22/the-evolution-of-revolution/

  5. 5 drkate August 22, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    OT–Rally at ground zero on 911:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/september-11th-rally-against-the-ground-zero-mosque.html

    Now I know why AF1 terrorized NY again–someone was on that plane looking for the perfect site for the mosque, and likely taking film footage…probably shown to benefactors around the world to raise money for the mosque.

    Monument to terror, erected on the graveyard of our citizens, courtesy Obama and the dems. :mad:

  6. 6 drkate August 22, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Pelosi is particularly stressed when talking about nullification. She’s throwing everything into 2010:

    http://hillbuzz.org/2009/12/10/how-sick-is-nancy-pelosi/

  7. 7 Jan August 22, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    OOPS! “Government of the United States” listed on Dunn & Bradstreet as a Private Corporation
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    Posted by Emil on God & Country USA

    The Manta.com website includes a database of over 63 million US and foreign companies. That database info is provided by Dunn & Bradstreet (D&B). Manta.com will provide preliminary information on each of these millions of companies for free. If you want more “in-depth” info, there’s a fee.

    But since this article is about “funny” stuff, and paying fees isn’t fun, let’s run a few free searches and see what we can find. You might be surprised.

    For example, if you type “Government of the United States” into the Manta.com search engine, you’ll be whisked to a list of “7,666 matching US companies”.

    The first “company” on the list is:

    “Government of the United States (US Government) HQ

    “the u.s. Capitol Washington DC”

    The “HQ” stands for “headquarters”.

    If you scroll down the list of other companies below the “Government of the United States,” you’ll find “branches” like “Executive Office of the United States Government” (6 entries), “United States Department of the Air Force (US Government),” “The Navy United States Department of (US Government Naval Reserves),” and “United States Court of Appeals For The 11th Circuit United States Courthouse”.

    Apparently, the Navy, Air Force and Courts are “companies”.

    That’s kinda “funny,” doncha think?

    If you click on the “Government of the United States HQ” link, you’ll see another website page with some fairly detailed—and possibly bewildering—information.

    For example, you’ll see that this “Government of the United States” has its address at: “the u.s. capitol “Washington, DC 20515-0001”

    Its phone number is “(202) 224-3121 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting (202) 224-3121 end_of_the_skype_highlighting”. Business Hours are “24/7”.

    You can click the “map” link and see a graphic indicating that this “Government” is located on “Capitol Hill” (same place as Congress) in Washington DC.

    None of that seems particularly surprising (other than the idea that our “Government” might be a “company” and/or a conglomerate of “companies”). But the Manta.com report does begin to seem a little strange under the heading “About Government Of The United States” where we read:

    “government, owner archbishop deric r. mccloud of basilica shrine michigan and 4th ne street washington,dc”.

    Say whut? Does that abbreviated text really indicate that the owner of the “Government Of The United States” is an archbishop named Deric R. McCloud? Who could be dumb enough to think (or even mistakenly write) that the “Government of the United States” was owned by an archbishop?

    A: Apparently, Dunn & Bradstreet was dumb enough.

    And just in case you think we can’t be talking about the “Government of the United States,” take a gander at the “Additional Information” heading and you’ll read (as of August 6th, A.D. 2010):

    “all receipents [sic] of federal funds that have any kind of criminal case or felony federal, state, local or served time in prison federal, state, benefits terminate 7/26/10 by barack obama administration.”

    The reference to “barack obama” shows that this entry for “Government of the United States HQ” does, indeed, describe the very same “Government of the United States” that we all so love and admire. (Don’t forget that this “Government” and all its various “branches” are being reported by D&B to be individual, private companies.)

    OK, OK—maybe this article isn’t really all that “funny” (ha-ha!), but it’s still pretty “funny” (strange).

    • Go back to the top of the “Government of the United States” page and click the “More Info” tab. Under “Employees (Estimated)” you’ll read:

    “2,768,886 “At this location “3”

    2.7 million federal employees sounds about right. This enormous number of employees confirms that we’re viewing information on the “Government of the United States”.

    But if only “3” of those millions of employees are “At this location” (the “HQ”) who are the “chosen 3”? And where, precisely is “this location”? Capitol Hill? Yes—but where on Capitol Hill? In the Senate chamber? The House of Representatives? If there are only “3” people at the HQ, that HQ might be as small as some cloakroom.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    Under “State of Incorporation” you’ll read “Information not found”. This could mean that this “Government of the United States” was never formally “incorporated”. Or it might mean that the information concerning that incorporation is intentionally concealed.

    However, we can see a clue to the possible date of incorporation for this “Government of the United States” under the heading “Years in Business” which reads “223”. If the “Government of the United States” began 223 years ago, there should be a constitution or charter to mark its creation at that time.

    This is A.D. 2010, so “223” years ago would be A.D. 1787.

    But that’s odd.

    Why? Because our current “Government of the United States” should have been created by “The Constitution of the United States” and therefore could not have existed prior to the ratification of the Constitution.

    In A.D. 1787, the Constitutional Convention completed the final draft of the Constitution on September 17th. That proposed Constitution for a new “federal government” was then submitted to the Congress that already existed under the Articles of Confederation (ratified in A.D. 1781). The Confederation Congress quickly “approved” the proposed Constitution under Article 13 of the Articles of Confederation and then sent it out to We the People for ratification.

    Article VII of the Constitution declares, “The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.” I.e., the Constitution (and resulting federal government) could not become effective and operational until it was ratified by at least nine of the States of the Union.

    Thus, while the Constitution may have been “approved” by the existing Congress in A.D. 1787, it could not have been established and ordained by We the People until ratified by at least 9 States. But the 9th State (New Hampshire) didn’t ratify until June 21st, A.D. 1788.

    Wikipedia article “Unites States Constitution” reports:

    “Once the Congress of the Confederation received word of New Hampshire’s ratification, it set a timetable for the start of operations under the new Constitution, and on March 4, 1789, the [new, federal] government began operations.” [Bracketed insertion mine.]

    Since the Constitution created the federal “Government” and could not have been ratified by We the People before A.D. 1788 (when the 9th State ratified), D&B’s report that the “Government of the United States” began “223” years ago (A.D. 1787) can’t be true. The earliest that the Constitution could’ve been deemed ratified and operations was A.D. 1788—222 years ago. Similarly, given that the new federal “Government” was not actually operational until A.D. 1789, the D&B report that this “Government” has been “in business” since A.D. 1787 also seems mistaken. Under this criteria, the earliest that the federal Government might become operational was A.D. 1789—221 years ago.

    Big deal, hmm?

    Who cares?

    Aren’t I merely making a mountain out of data entry error mole hill? Didn’t the D&B clerk responsible for the data entry simply write “223” when she meant “222” or even “221”?

    I doubt it. If I’m right, it is a “big deal”. Here’s why:

    In A.D. 2008, I first learned about the Manta.com reports that suggest our government is some sort of conglomerate of “companies” and “branches”. When I first read the D&B “Government of the United States” report two years ago, Manta.com had a different website format. In that earlier format, Manta.com reported that “Government of the United States” started in “1787”. (Today, they report “223” years in business.)

    In 2008, when I first saw “1787,” I knew that either: 1) the D&B data entry clerk made a mistake; or 2) the current “Government of the United States” is somehow presumed to have started at least one year before the Constitution itself was ratified and two years before the resulting federal government became operational.

    If so, whatever currently pa**** for our “Government of the United States” is not based on the authority of We the People, but on some other “authority”. Thus, this is a potentially “big” deal.

    I also knew that if the D&B clerk didn’t make a data entry error, that the Manta.com website might be changed to eliminate evidence that today’s “Government of the United States” is not be the same “Government” created by the Constitution ratified by People in A.D. 1788. So, in A.D. 2009, I downloaded and retained complete copies of about 25 Manta.com website pages for safekeeping.

    As I’d anticipated, the Manta.com website has since been modified and some information found two years ago has been changed or “disappeared”.

    For example, where Manta.com used to report that the “Government” began in “1787,” it now reports that it’s been in business for “223” years. That’s not a big change. It’s still possible that the numbers “223” and “1787” simply reflect some persistent data entry calculation error. But given the differences between “1787” and “223,” the probability of a mere data entry error is reduced. It therefore seems increasingly possible that the current D&B report on “Government of the United States” may correctly declare that that “Government” started the year before the Constitution was ratified by the People.

    If so, as crazy as it sounds, it is therefore conceivable that there might be two editions of our “Constitution”: 1) one approved by the Confederation Congress in A.D. 1787; and 2) another, ratified by We the People in A.D. 1788. The text of both of these “editions” of the Constitution would be identical, but the underlying authority would be completely different.

    Under the Constitution ratified by People in A.D. 1788, the enacting authority and national sovereigns would (consistent with the principles of the “Declaration of Independence”) be We the People. As individual sovereigns, We the People would enjoy the “republican form of government” guaranteed at Article 4 Section 4 of the federal Constitution.

    However, under the possible Constitution “approved” by Congress in A.D. 1787, the enacting authority and national sovereigns would be the Congress. If Congress were the constitutional sovereign, our form of government would be an aristocracy of 535 men and women. Worse, under such aristocracy, you and I would be presumed to be subjects or even slaves. If the Constitution “approved” by Congress in A.D. 1787 were in effect today (rather than the Constitution ratified by the People in A.D. 1788), you and I can’t be free.

    Yes, this conjecture sounds like another howling conspiracy theory. But even so, since the Constitution wasn’t ratified until A.D. 1788 and the resulting government didn’t become operational until A.D. 1789, D&B’s report that the government began “223” years ago and/or began in “1787” can’t be accurate. So, it seems at least “odd” that an entity as professional a D&B would make such a peculiar error.

    It’s also curious that D&B describes the “Government of the United States” as a company and “HQ” over a number of other “branches” (like the Army, Navy, Air Force and courts) that are also deemed to be “companies”.

    Somethin’ funny’s goin’ on here.

    • If you’re up for even more funny stuff, enter “Nancy Pelosi” into the Manta.com search engine. You’ll be taken to a list of “2 matching U.S. companies”:

    1) “United States House of Representatives (Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi) BRANCH” at her San Francisco address; and

    2) “Representative Nancy Pelosi (Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi) BRANCH” at her Washington DC address.

    Click the #1 link, look for the heading “About United States House of Representatives,” and you’ll read:

    “United States House Of Representatives is a private company categorized under Legislative Bodies, National and located in San Francisco, CA . . . .”

    Whut th’ . . . ?!

    The US House of Representative is “a private company”?! And it’s “located in San Francisco, CA” (the home of the Speaker of the House)?

    More?

    Look under the heading “United States House of Representatives Business Information” and you’ll read:

    “United States House Of Representatives also does business as Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi.”

    The House of Representatives not only “does business” but does so “as Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi”? Is “Nancy Pelosi” something like a trademark, alter ego or registered agent for the “private company” we call the “House of Representatives”? Is she the CEO and/or D/B/A for the House of Representatives, Inc.?

    Incidentally, the 2009 edition of Manta.com’s report on Nancy Pelosi (that I recorded and saved) declared that the US House of Representatives was “also traded as Nancy Pelosi”.

    Also traded as?! What does that mean? Are we talking about packages of bubble gum that include government “trading cards” featuring photos of the House of Representatives and Nancy Pelosi? Or is the House of Representatives and/or Nancy Pelosi some sort of stock? If so, who’s buying, who’s selling? Who owns that “company”?

    • Enter “US Social Security Admin” into the search engine. Scroll down a bit and you’ll read:

    “US Social Security Admin is a private company categorized under Federal Government-Social and Human Resources and located in West Branch, MI.”

    So-So Security is a “private company” . . . ? That’s not located in Washington DC, but rather in “West Branch, MI” . . . ? I don’t know what that means, but I can’t help but laugh. Somethin’ funny is goin’ on here.

    • Try “Internal Revenue Service”. Manta.com will produce “41,632 matching U.S. companies”. Some of these are clearly private entities that have no governmental pretense, but many or most are “governmental”.

    If you click the link to “Internal Revenue Service, Internal Revenue Dst Council,” you’ll read “Internal Revenue Service is a private company categorized under Federal Goverenment-Finance and Taxation and located in Portland, OR.”

    Click the “Internal Revenue Service, Andover Service Center . . . . Andover MA” link and you’ll read that “Internal Revenue Service is a private company categorized under Federal Government-Finance and Taxation and located in Andover, MA.”

    Two different locations indicate two different “private companies”.

    These reports (and scores more) suggest that each individual IRS office may be a separate “private company”. Therefore, if you’re contacted by an IRS office in Austin, Texas, you may be dealing with one “private company”. If you’re subsequently contacted by another IRS office from, say, Provo, Utah—you might be dealing with a completely different “private company”.

    What’s your obligation to talk to several different “private companies” about your income taxes? Are there privacy concerns in sharing your tax information with several private companies?

    And given that there are at least several score (and perhaps several thousand) “private companies,” operating as an “Internal Revenue Service,” who are you really paying your income taxes to? H&R Block?

    There are a host of additional “private companies” that you might want to research. I collected website pages for about two dozen in 2008 and 2009. I’m not sure how many of those can still be found, but if you can find ‘em and if you read closely, you may be fascinated. Search for: “United States Court of Appeals,” “District of Columbia,” “George W Bush,” and “Supreme Court of the United States”. All were listed by D&B as “private companies”.

    You may find other D&B reports that are similarly fascinating or bewildering. What does D&B have to say about the CIA or Homeland Security? Inquiring minds wanna know.

    • What’s it all mean? I’m not sure. Perhaps D&B is merely guilty of gross negligence when it comes to entering data on governmental entities.

    Or, maybe the entire structure of what currently pa**** for “government” is actually a conglomerate of “private companies” run by an aristocratic Congress that’s owned by . . . who? The world’s bankers?

    If so, the true nature of the “Government of the United States” might not be that of a “republic” or even a “democracy,” but rather a combination of governmental and corporate interests (“private companies”) that’s usually described as “fascism”. If so, we no longer have “government of the People, by the People and for the People” but instead have “government of the people, by the Congress, and for the Corporations.”

    Whatever the explanation, somethin’ funny is goin’ on here.

    Today, when it comes to government, an appearance of reality appears to have been substituted for reality. Our government is not what it appears to be; not what it professes to be—and that’s not funny at all, is it?

    Written at arm’s length and at my political choice of venue within The United States of America,

    Alfred Adask

  8. 9 Stock August 22, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    Great Article-the States are becoming the battleground and while this entire situation is highly unusual-who would have thunk it a couple of years ago eh? I think the Public is starting to grasp it. This clearly shows the importance of who the Governor is and who the Attorney General is and those local choices that are made in this election. (Provided our votes are counted etc.,) Volunteer as Poll watchers-its easy and the local elections depts need the help.

    Just another thought- Haiti has denied Wyclef Jean permission to run for President, because he doesnt meet the residency requirement-kind of makes you go hmmmmmmmm

  9. 10 drkate August 22, 2010 at 6:46 pm

    The shoe WILL drop…in the meantime,study, prepare, get healthy, find your network, stock up, have faith, stay clear-headed…

  10. 11 Quantum Leap August 22, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Fox News co-owner funded ‘Ground Zero mosque’ imam: report

    The second largest shareholder in News Corp. — the parent company of Fox News — has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to causes linked to the imam planning to build a Muslim community center and mosque near Ground Zero in Manhattan, says a report from Yahoo!News.

    According to the report from Yahoo!’s John Cook, Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, who owns seven percent of News Corp., “has directly funded [Imam Feisal Abdul] Rauf’s projects to the tune of more than $300,000.”

    http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0821/fox-shareholder-funded-mosque-imam/

  11. 14 Quantum Leap August 22, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    Not sure if this can be verified. I found it early am last night/am on another remote site.

    The most comprehensive list of the Chain of Command leading and controlling Obama and his administration. See who really runs the show from the top to the bottom (Obama). Read their credentials and connections.
    Obama’s White Papal Masters:
    Chain of Command
    Adolfo Nicolas
    30th Superior General, Society of Jesus
    “The Black Pope”
    Pope Benedict XVI
    Vicar of Christ/Vicar of Horus
    “The White Pope”
    “The White Pope”
    The Evil Emperor
    “The Black Pope”
    Darth Vader
    Masters of “The Matrix”
    James E. Grummer, S.J.
    American Assistant to General Nicolas
    Borgo di Santo Spirito #5, Rome
    Master of US Jesuit Conference
    Master of American Jesuit University Presidents
    Master of 10 American Provincials
    Master of New York Provincial
    Thomas H. Smolich. S.J.
    President, US Jesuit Conference
    Former California Provincial
    Former Master of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger
    Conspirator: Present Chinese-Mexican Invasion
    Conspirator: Future Sino-Soviet-Muslim Invasion
    David S. Ciancimino, S.J.
    New York Provincial
    Overseer of Archbishop of New York City
    Occult Overseer of New York City
    Wall Street, Federal Reserve, NYSE
    Joseph M. McShane, S.J.
    President, Jesuit Fordham University
    Bronx, New York
    “Penholder for Cardinal Egan”
    Notice: Equilateral Triangle Pendant
    Masonic symbol for the Risen Horus
    THE COMING RISEN POPE/”The Beast”
    Pope Benedict the XVI
    Roman Papal Caesar
    Egyptian Osiris
    Vicar of Christ/Vicar of Horus
    Edward Cardinal Egan
    “Prince of the Pope’s Church”
    Roman Papal Senator
    Edward Cardinal Egan
    Archbishop of New York City
    “Archbishop of the Capital of the World”
    “The American Pope”
    Head: American Branch of the Knights of Malta
    Head: Knights of Columbus
    Occult Master of:
    Supreme Council of the 33rd Degree
    American Scottish-Rite Freemasonry
    Council On Foreign Relations
    B’nai B’rith/Anti-Defamation League
    Central Intelligence Agency
    National Security Agency
    Federal Bureau of Investigation
    Office of Naval Intelligence
    The Pentagon
    Joseph A. O’Hare, S.J.
    President Emeritus, Jesuit Fordham University
    Bronx, New York
    Member: Knights of Malta
    Presider: Council on Foreign Relations
    Advisor to Knight of Malta David Rockefeller, CFR
    Advisor to Knight of Malta Henry Kissinger, CFR
    Advisor to Michael Bloomberg
    Mayor, New York City
    Papal Knight of the Vatican’s Revived
    “Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem“—Israel
    John J. DeGioia
    President Jesuit Georgetown University
    Member: Knights of Malta
    Member: Council On Foreign Relations
    Adminstrator: “Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem“—Israel
    Richard N. Haass
    Chairman: Council on Foreign Relations
    New York City
    Servant of Edward Cardinal Egan
    Overseer of AIPAC:
    American Israel Public Affairs Committee
    Freemasonic Jewish Labor Zionist
    Court Jew for the Pope
    Adminstrator: “Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem“—Israel
    Zbigniew Brzezinski
    Member: Knights of Malta
    Member: Bilderberg Group
    Member: Council On Foreign Relations
    Member: Trilaterial Commission
    Advisor: Jesuit Georgetown University
    Polish Roman Catholic Socialist-Communist
    Professor: Columbia University, New York
    Recruiter of Barry Soetoro, 1981
    Creator of “Barack Hussein Obama”
    George Soros
    Member: Council on Foreign Relations
    Member: Carlyle Group
    Multi-billionaire
    Major Stockholder: Halliburton
    Hungarian Jew: Socialist-Communist
    Financial Backer of Barack Hussein Obama
    Friend of Rupert Murdoch
    Freemasonic Jewish Labor Zionist
    “Court Jew for the Pope”
    Rupert Murdoch
    Member: Council on Foreign Relations
    Member: Knights of St. Gregory
    International Media Mogul
    Owner: Fox News Network
    Friend of George Soros
    Occult Protector of Barack Hussein Obama
    Bill O’Reilly – The O’Reilly Factor
    Sean Hannity – Hannity & Combes
    Joseph R. Biden
    Papal Knight; Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor
    Vice President: Rome’s “Holy Roman”
    14th Amendment American Empire
    Alter Ego: Jesuit Advisor to
    President Barry Davis Obama
    Promoter: Council on Foreign Relations
    Honorary Degrees:
    Jesuit University of Scranton, Scranton, PA
    Jesuit St. Joseph’s University, Philadelphia, PA
    Barry Davis
    “Barack Hussein Obama”
    32nd Degree Prince Hall Freemason
    President of Rome’s “Holy Roman,”
    14th Amendment American Empire
    Sunni Moslem, Pretended Protestant Christian
    Mulatto: Mulatto Father, White Mother
    Father: Frank Marshall Davis, Jr.
    Wife: Michelle, Member: Chicago CFR
    Obama: CFR-Controlled and CFR Spokesperson
    Obama: Promoted by the late William F. Buckley, Jr.
    Buckley: Knight of Malta, Bonesman, Bilderberger, CFR Member
    Buckley: Promoter of Reverse Discrimination against Whites
    Buckley: Promoter of a Coming Black President
    Obama: Trained in Romanism, Islam and Apostate Protestantism
    Obama: “Nimrod”; Pretended Unifier of Whites and Blacks
    Obama: Promoter of the Papal Crusade against Shia Islam
    Obama: Promoter of Bush’s Papal Inquisition
    Against Protestant American Liberties
    Obama: Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor
    Promotor of the Black Pope’s Counter-Reformation
    Barry Davis: “Boy” of Pope Benedict XVI

  12. 18 Quantum Leap August 22, 2010 at 9:15 pm

    Oh and incidently, there are muslims praying daily inside the pentagon right at the feet of the shrine/plaque for the 185 who lost thier lives in that attack by muslim extremists. Yes you read that right. Google it.
    Why is there no uproar?

  13. 20 Troy August 22, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    An example of just how badly our government is screwing us…Free fuel for the entire world is ready to go, right now!

  14. 21 Heather August 22, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    Jan,

    What an awesome find! Great post!

  15. 22 Quantum Leap August 22, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Hmmm …What’s his name? I have some dough for him for a prototype.
    Nah…the powers that be have claimed the water as theirs.
    Wonder what the natives would say about that?

    • 24 Rosemary Woodhouse August 23, 2010 at 6:12 pm

      For credibility’s sake, we shouldn’t make much ado about nothing. It was obviously a slip of the tongue which he was quite eagar to correct.

    • 25 drkate August 23, 2010 at 6:45 pm

      I find the interesting thing here is how FOX jumped all over to correct this, I mean over-correct. But its hard to make his point about Obama being a Muslim hard core and also saying he was born in the US… LOL

  16. 26 Rich T August 22, 2010 at 10:18 pm

    This might be a good song for us in Washington.

    GET YOUR LIBERTY ON!!!!!!!!!

  17. 27 Jan August 22, 2010 at 10:20 pm

    Quantum Leap, thank you so much for the web sites. Would explain why obama went to Rome to see the Pope.
    As to the muslims praying inside the Pentagon, and also where the plane crashed into the ground, there should be outrage, not enough know about it yet.

    Did anyone hear today that obama said he will make a statement to the nation when he gets back from this vacation? I heard a teaser but not the full article on FOX this afternoon

    • 30 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 12:35 am

      This guy is full of it. Sharia is not like the Bill of Rights and most certainly NOT inclusive of freedom of religion. Sharia is against protestants and Christians and will kill because of it. But hey, they can lie without guilt if it fosters their ultimate goal.

  18. 33 Troy August 22, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    [link to http://www.nytimes.com

    CAIRO — Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the organizer of the planned Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, arrived in Bahrain on Thursday to begin a three-country tour of the Persian Gulf sponsored by the United States State Department.

    But the United States government refused to divulge details of his schedule of speeches and meetings, which are part of a program to promote interfaith tolerance. Local journalists have been invited to meet with Imam Feisal but were told the State Department wanted to keep the international news media at bay, said the editor of a Bahraini newspaper.

    http://69.84.25.250/blogger/post/WTF!!!-State-Department-Sponsoring-NY-Mosques-Imam-On-Speaking-Tour!!.aspx

    What the hell? Do you think the State Department would sponsor Billy Graham doing anything?

  19. 34 Jan August 22, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Watch before it is scrubbed

    http://downloads.cbn.com/cbnnewsplayer/cbnPlayer.swf?aid=11991

    I wish I knew how to make copies of these before they are pulled.

  20. 35 Troy August 22, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Confirmed: Stanley Ann Dunham began studies in September 1961, not August

    REGISTRAR’S OFFICE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON CONFIRMS START DATE WAS IN SEPTEMBER 1961
    by Sharon Rondeau

    (Aug. 22, 2010) — The Post & Email can confirm that the alleged mother of Barack Hussein Obama, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama, began her course of study at the University of Washington in September 1961, not August 19, 1961, as has been widely reported.

    more http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-stanley-ann-dunham-began-studies-in-september-1961-not-august/

  21. 36 Troy August 22, 2010 at 10:42 pm

    WHAT TURNED THIS DECORATED WAR HERO INTO A PUPPET FOR THE OBAMA REGIME?
    by David F. LaRocque

    Judge David O. Carter was appointed to the federal bench by President Clinton in 1998

    (Aug. 22, 2010) — On August 11, 2010, an Appellants’ Opening Brief was filed with the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit by Dr. Orly Taitz, in the case Pamela Barnett, Alan Keyes, et al v. Barack Obama et al. This appeal is seeking to overturn the decision of Judge David O. Carter of the United States District Court for the Central District of California in an order of dismissal issued on October 29, 2009. The grounds for the appeal are based on an assertion that the “District Court acted with bias, lack of impartiality, and under improper and undue influence from (the) Obama administration.”

    more http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/22/the-strange-case-of-judge-david-o-carter/

  22. 37 Troy August 22, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    Ground Zero mosque modeled after notorious 9/11 mosque?
    Founder of hijackers’ D.C. worship center partners with N.Y. imam pushing shariah
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: August 22, 2010
    8:22 pm Eastern

    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    The New York imam behind the Ground Zero mosque has struck a partnership with the founder of the so-called 9/11 mosque in the Washington suburbs that gave aid and comfort to some of the 9/11 hijackers, WND has learned.

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf counts the lead trustee of the Dar al-Hijrah Islamic Center among partners in his Cordoba Initiative, which features a 13-story mosque and a “cultural center” for his project to bring shariah, or Islamic law, to America.

    Families of 9/11 victims oppose construction of the proposed site so close to Ground Zero.

    Jamal Barzinji, one of the founders of the radical Muslim Brotherhood in America, also founded Dar al-Hijrah in Falls Church, Va., which is run by the pro-jihad Brotherhood. The mosque has been tied to numerous terrorism plots, including the 9/11 attacks.

    The dots are finally being connected! Find out what Islam has planned for you: Get “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America.”

    In December 2008, the Brotherhood’s U.S. think tank — the International Institute of Islamic Thought, or IIIT – hosted Rauf. During their meeting, IIIT’s leadership, including Barzinji, “pledged cooperation and support” for Rauf’s project, according to this screenshot of the description of the event from IIIT’s scrubbed Web archives.

    Rauf’s partner Barzinji is a founder and director of IIIT, which is under active federal investigation for funneling funds to Palestinian terrorists. Its Herndon, Va., offices were raided by federal agents after 9/11.

    The U.S. government has accused Barzinji of being “closely associated” with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Hamas and other terrorist organizations. He has not been charged with a crime, however.

    Barzinji personally authorized the development of Dar al-Hijrah, according to Fairfax County, Va., property records obtained by investigative journalist Paul Sperry, author of “Infiltration” and “Muslim Mafia.”

    Records also show the North American Islamic Trust, a recently named unindicted co-conspirator in the largest terror-financing case in U.S. history, holds the deed to the radical mosque. Barzinji is listed as a NAIT trustee on the document, and his signature appears on the deed.

    In November 2008, Barzinji personally chaired a meeting at IIIT’s Herndon headquarters to launch an abridged edition of Rauf’s book, “What’s Right with Islam Is What’s Right with America,” in which he calls for the establishment of a parallel system of justice in America run by Islamic jurists. Barzinji’s brother’s printing company published the digest.

    (Story continues below)

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=194617

  23. 38 Troy August 22, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Israeli official declares: ‘We’re preparing for war’
    Warns if world doesn’t stop Iran, Jewish nation may be forced to act
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: August 22, 2010
    2:50 pm Eastern

    © 2010 WorldNetDaily

    While Israel is hoping for a peaceful resolution to Iran’s nuclear ambitions, the Jewish state is also preparing for “a time of war,” declared a Knesset member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud party.

    “We are prepared for all risks,” said Likud Knesset Member Danny Danon. “And I think our enemies should know that even though we are speaking of peace, we are getting ready for a time of war, as well.”

    Danon, the deputy speaker of Israel’s parliament, was speaking in a radio interview with WND senior reporter Aaron Klein, who hosts an investigative program on New York’s WABC 770 AM Radio.

    Danon hinted that Israel may take action if the world does not stop the Iranian nuclear threat, recalling Israel’s lone strike on Iraq’s nuclear reactor in 1981.

    Stated Danon: “We are ready for all scenarios, and we are able to defend our civilian population. I cannot tell you how long we can wait more. But we prefer to wait and see if the international bodies are acting, or [whether] it will be only the burden of Israel, like it was in the early ’80s, when the great leader, Menachem Begin, [made] the great decision to bomb the nuclear reactor in Iraq.”

    Audio of the interview can be heard below:

    (Story continues below)

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=194409

  24. 39 Rich T August 22, 2010 at 11:25 pm

    Time to up the ante:

    Florida Church vows to burn Quran

    In Gainesville, Florida, the Dove World Outreach Center plans to hold a Burn Quran Day. Pastor Terry Jones, head of the controversial church, is organizing the burning of the Quran, or Koran, to commemorate the 9th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. The Holy Quran is the principle text of the Islamic faith and considered one of the major world religious books. The outrage by the Muslim community, and others, say this act is akin to the Nazi book burning in 1930s Germany. The church vows to burn the Quran despite being denied a permit by city officials.

    Gainesville’s Interim Fire Chief, Gene Prince, said this past Wednesday that the open burning of books is not allowed under the city’s burning ordinance. He added that the church will be fined if it goes ahead with it’s plans. The church sent out an email telling it’s recipients “City of Gainesville denies burn permit — BUT WE WILL STILL BURN KORANS.”

    The church, Dove World Outreach Center, made news last year when they produced and distributed t-shirts with the statement “Islam is of the Devil.” Pastor Jones sees the rise of Islamic militants worldwide as a major threat. In the video below, Jones walks us through many recent incidents and statements by Muslim leaders.

    He sees Islam as more of a political force disguised as a religion. A dangerous and violent political force, at that. Jones warns that America is facing becoming an Islamic nation. He points to how Muslims are becoming a significant and dominating population in Europe. How Sharia Law is gaining acceptance in England.

    Pastor Jones details ten specific reasons why the Quran should be burned. Number One is the fact that the Koran does not recognize Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Number Six is that Islamic Law is totalitarian in nature. There is no separation between church and state. Finally, Number Ten is that Islam has a clear objective of world domination. To discriminate against and destroy those of other faiths.

    So, is the church vow to burn Quran the same as Nazi book burning? Why does the Dove World Outreach Center not recognize the Holy Quran, the principle text of Islamic faith, a major world religious book? Is Pastor Terry Jones off-base planning to commemorate 9/11 with a Burn Quran Day? Is the Gainesville, Florida Fire Chief, Gene Prince, violating free speech not issuing a permit for the event? The controversy rages on!

    • 40 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 2:31 am

      Oh, how does his fight against political ideology Islam end up as a fight against gays and abortion? He’s sunk if he thinks he can lump it all together. He needs to stick to fighting Islam.

    • 42 Paula August 23, 2010 at 8:39 am

      I don’t believe Christian churches ought to add fuel to the fire by burning their Qurans. That is not how the Apostle Paul reached the lost people who were worshipping false gods in his day. Christians need to be following the Apostle Paul’s example and the Bible declares this in Paul’s letters. The Lord Jesus Christ has paid the payment for all the world’s sins, every person, and all the Father requires is that an individual trust the Lord Jesus Christ’s payment on the cross for their sin. Once saved, having become a member of Christ’s body at the moment of belief/trust, He would that the new member grow in the grace and the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. “For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works–Titus 2:11-14″

      We are living in the dispensation of God’s grace and all who will believe can be saved. God hates sin, but He does love sinners and wants all men to be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth.

  25. 43 Rich T August 22, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    CIA to award contract for full skeletal scans in airports

    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2010/08/22/cia-to-award-contract-for-full-skeletal-scans-in-airports/

    Wright State University Research Institute is one of a dozen groups chosen from a field of 500 applicants to submit plans to the Central Intelligence Agency for cutting-edge technology to identify potential terrorists and other suspects.

    University researchers working to develop what they believe is the nation’s first bone-scanning identification system should know next year whether the CIA will opt to use their biometric identifier.

  26. 47 Jan August 22, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    I guess if you don’t want to be scanned and you are a female, just wear a burka.
    This is to make us subserviant, not for our safety. Think I’ll drive or take the train.

  27. 48 Rich T August 22, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Looks like the left are taking direct action against those who beleieve Abdulla Obama was not born in the USA.

    PAC targets congressman for befriending ‘birthers’

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=194605

    A Vermont-based political action committee is targeting an incumbent California congressman for being a friend to “birthers” and backing “those right-wing conspiracy theorists.”

    Democracy for America, a PAC founded by former Governor Howard Dean and dedicated to making the Democratic Party more “progressive,” sent out an e-mail asking supporters to help defeat “Tea Party Republican John Campbell,” who the e-mail describes as “an example of the worst Republicans have to offer the country.”

    “You know those right-wing conspiracy theorists demanding to see President Obama’s birth certificate?” asks the e-mail sent out by Matt Blizek, field director at Democracy for America. “Well, these so-called ‘birthers’ have a representative in Congress backing them up – California’s John Campbell

  28. 49 Rich T August 23, 2010 at 12:28 am

    It’s good to see a private Christian school (Ft. Worth) stand up for our rights and the Word of God.

    Texas School Rejects Lesbian Couple’s Daughter

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/21/texas-school-rejects-lesbian-couples-daughter/

    A Texas couple is upset that their daughter was denied admission to a private school. The school says it does not agree with their lesbian lifestyle and therefore the school would not be a good fit for her because it does not back her own personal values taught at home.

    • 50 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 2:43 am

      Okay. Reject a little girl because her parents are queers but accept Muslims who, by their own ideology are extremely violent?
      Funny how you fear the wrong things. They are not bothering anyone. They live their quiet life and pay taxes. Not out conquering the world and being violent. So God said? Where? Show me.
      The 10 commandments says thou shalt not kill.
      I don’t remember any commandments saying thou shalt not enter into a loving same sex relationship. I mean these are not some straight dudes seeking out a ‘glory hole’ at some dirty book store in the dead of night only to go back to their straight life in the morning. Have the nerve to engage brain and distinguish individuals as ‘being’ or as ‘doing the acts’

      • 51 Rich T August 23, 2010 at 5:04 am

        Here are some passags from the Bible abiout homosexuality.

        Gen 19
        Lev 18:22
        Lev 20:13
        Rom 1:26-27
        1Cor 6:9-10
        1Tim 1:9-10
        Jude 1:7

        I don’t accept muslims or homosexuals.I posted because a Chrstian school stood their ground based on the Bible and thier beliefs.

        • 52 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 9:46 pm

          LOL You took me up on my request :lol: okay. It’s about the spirit not the behavior. Straights can do homo things can’t they? That is WRONG to do. But if a turtle is being a turtle instead of a bug, then all is well. :grin:

      • 53 drkate August 23, 2010 at 6:43 pm

        QL, right there with you.

  29. 54 Jan August 23, 2010 at 12:33 am

    Thomas Sowell interview -4parts, one of my most favorite writers with insights on obama

    http://www.humanevents.com/UncommonKnowledge.php

  30. 55 no-nonsense-nancy August 23, 2010 at 7:50 am

    This is what America will look like if we don’t soon–

    STOP THEM COLD!!

    http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110393/seven-flaws-in-chinas-growth-model

    Quantum, I agree with you.

  31. 56 JinAlabama August 23, 2010 at 9:19 am

    I have been wondering in my own little mind why would OB and the democrats weigh in on the controversial “mosque” and take different sides on the matter already knowing they are in for a bad November unless they know a heck of a lot more than pollsters know (which is highly possible with the way they stole a primary and a G.E.). Then the S—head goes on a 10 day vacation in elite land. There is something in the left hand they are hiding from the American people. drkate if you remember I asked you if the rumble over NY with AF1 and AF2 was someone casing out to see where to put that thing. Everyone considers this pinocchio character to be dumb and someone else pulling his strings. I honestly think he is just pure evil and is pulling most of his own strings with a little help. If you remember in one of his debates with Hillary he stated that he did not have to be an expert on the economy or anything else. As president he would appoint people to do the job for him. Wallah, the bunch of Czars he has appointed.

    • 57 drkate August 23, 2010 at 5:16 pm

      Jin, yes, I certainly remember that you mentioned it. It all clicked just a few days ago for me, but that is correct…I betcha they are showing that video all over the world as a fundraiser. The Mosque is on the flight path.

  32. 58 Renee August 23, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    From: Dennis L. Guthrie

    I just got this one. Said checked out by Snoopes. What a letter, what a guy !

    Check his credentials. Then read his letter to Pelosi!

    Born St. Louis , Missouri , August 21, 1944
    Bar Admissions:
    North Carolina , 1969
    U.S. District Court, Eastern, Middle and Western Districts of North Carolina , 1969
    U.S. Tax Court
    Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals
    Education: Woodford College , 1966 A.B.
    Mercer University , 1969 J.D.
    Phi Alpha Delta
    Vice-Justice, District XIV, 1968 – 1969
    Professional Associations and Memberships:
    North Carolina and American Bar Associations (Member, Sections on: Administrative Law; General Practice; Litigation)
    26th Judicial District and North Carolina State Bar
    Mecklenburg County Bar Association
    American Association of Justice
    North Carolina Trial Lawyers Association
    Captain, U.S. Army, 1969-1971, Vietnam
    National Defense Medal, 1969
    Republic of Viet Nam Service Medal, 1970
    Bronze Star Medals (2), 1971
    Assistant District Attorney, Mecklenburg County , 1971 – 1974
    Charlotte Chamber of Commerce
    Chairman, Board of Trustees Providence United Methodist Church
    Board of Directors, Alexander Children’s Home
    Board of Directors, Charlotte Culinary Institute
    Wofford Alumni Executive Council
    Scoutmaster, Boy Scouts of America
    Board of Directors, Boy Scouts of America of Mecklenburg County
    Board of Directors, Girl Scout Council
    Life Member, National Eagle Scout Association
    Life Member, Girl Scouts of America

    Dear Ms. Pelosi:

    I write to you out of utter disdain! You are as despicable and un-American as the traitor Jane Fonda.

    I am a soon to be 65 year-old who has voted in every state and local election since 1966. I have voted for both Republicans and Democrats alike. I have worked on campaigns for both Republicans and Democrats, white and black. I served the country that I love in Vietnam , as my son did in the Middle East . I was awarded two bronze stars. I have been involved in politics since age 6 when my father was campaign manager for a truly great American Congressman, Charles Raper Jonas, who worked for his constituents and his country, and was to be admired, unlike you.

    You obviously haven’t read the Constitution recently, if ever, the Federalist Papers, or even David McCullough’s book on John Adams. You ought to take the time while riding around in your government provided luxury executive jet to do just that. You represent Socialistic and even Marxist principals that our founding fathers tried to avoid when setting out the capitalistic republican form of government represented by our Constitution.

    I find it interesting that you and your husband are multi-millionaires with much of your fortune being made as a result of your “public service”. You have controlled legislation that has enhanced your husband’s investments both on and off shore. At the same time you redistributed the wealth of others. Our system of a free market economy is being destroyed by the likes of you, Harry Reid, and now our President. You ride around in a Gulfstream airplane at the tax payer’s expense while criticizing the presidents of companies who produced something for the economy. You add nothing to the economy of the United States ; you only subtract therefrom.

    I would like to suggest that you return to the city of fruitcakes and nuts and eat your husband’s canned tuna and pineapple produced by illegal immigrants and by workers who have been excluded from the protection that 90% of the legal workers in the United States have.

    I await your defeat in the next election with glee.

    Don’t ever use the term “un-American” again for protesters who love this country and are exercising their rights upon which this country was founded. By the way, while I served in the Army, I was spit on by the same type of lunatics who support you and who you probably supported in the 60’s and 70’s. You are an embarrassment to all of us who served so that you would have the protected right of free speech to call us un-American. But at the same time, I have the right to write you to notify you that I consider you to be un-American, as do the majority of the people of this formerly great country. You are a true disgrace to most of the people who served this country by offering themselves for public service in the United States Congress.

    I feel certain your aides will not share this letter with you, but I intend to share it with many.

    Dennis L. Guthrie

    • 59 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 10:35 pm

      Oh man! :lol: Dear Ms. Pelosi:

      I write to you out of utter disdain! You are as despicable and un-American as the traitor Jane Fonda. :lol:

      WoW

    • 60 MeJane August 25, 2010 at 3:08 pm

      Great Letter. I think that we all need to ask ourselves the following question:

      How is it possible for Congress, with an 11% approval rating, for incumbents to get re-elected 97% of the time????

      Vote scamming and voter fraud is the only way. The numbers simply do not add up or make sense. We need to be vigilant and protect our voting rights, we do not. We assume our vote is protected, that is a BIG assumption. Our ballot is supposed to be secret, not the count. Why is the count so secret?? Who is doing the counting????

      Please check out video of voter fraud:

      http://vodpod.com/watch/692792-vote-scam-the-stealing-of-america-by-james-collier

  33. 61 Jan August 23, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Renee, thanks so much. The letters and statements coming from retired and prior Military are really boosting my morale.

    Couple more links on obat:

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38673

    We are worse than Al-Qaeda?

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/08/23/barack-obamas-attempted-character-assassinate-of-the-koch-industries/

  34. 62 JinAlabama August 23, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Great article at LameCherry about BO’s birth or non birth. My mama used to tell me when I would ask her where I was born “you were hatched under an old rock.” I am beginning to think perhaps that is where our dear leader was hatched as everyone is so keen on keeping his birthplace and all his records such a mystery. I do know everytime he speaks, he hisses like a (dare I say it) SNAKE. What about an ObamaBOA?

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2010/08/mr-obama-has-left-building.html

    • 65 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 10:27 pm

      :lol: GOOOOOOOOOO CHALICE!
      I hope she raises alot of money

      • 66 drkate August 23, 2010 at 11:12 pm

        She really is doing well, yes? I met her at the CC2009 just when she was getting to this issue, and voila! So, so good!
        :smile:

        Go Chalice!

        • 67 Quantum Leap August 24, 2010 at 12:25 pm

          Why is she there alone? Oh man I’d like to shake her hand. This is one smart and brave woman. If 200,000 people gave her $5 she’d be set for the fight. She’d have 1MM.

  35. 70 ARMY D.A.V. August 23, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    Papoose

    I hope we don’t make the same mistake we made in the 50’s&60’s. After we stop them cold this time , we should put an end to their evil ideologies once and for all . I suggest we dismantle the indoctrination centers and re-establish schools .

    • 71 Papoose August 23, 2010 at 7:57 pm

      I hear you, Army D.A.V.

      A good start may be to re-define Subjects of Education and get the social services out of schools.

      If you need a shot or a condom, go to the clinic. If you are hungry in the morning, ask your mom to put cereal and milk on the market list. If you are fasting for religious reasons, then skip practice. If you bring your electronic toys to class, they go into the safe until the end of the year… oh yeah, and if you have electronic toys, you don’t need lunch subsidiaries or transportation tokens.

      If you can’t speak English, then lump it.

      ESL = English as a Second Language, brought to you by the American Taxpayers. Is that a Right?

      If you find yourself going to flash mobs to wreak havoc and terrorize the neighborhood and its shopkeepers after school, then go directly to a detention center.

      The youth today really scare me, Army.

  36. 72 Jan August 23, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    Just saw an interview on Hannity with David Limbaugh.
    David’s new book – Crimes Against Liberty is now available and looks like it is a MUST READ.
    The interview brought up crimes obat has committed that make a birth certificate a non-issue.

    This book is not fiction. Names names, dates, etc.

    We have got to get him out before we are all locked up.

    • 73 drkate August 23, 2010 at 11:35 pm

      “crimes obat has committed that make a birth certificate a non-issue.”

      EXACTLY–make it a non issue, a BC issue (when its not relevant), and demonize anyone who raises it. Still being ‘accused’ of being birthers…it won’t work anymore as people start looking for any excuse to get him out of office.

      As LC predicted, the birther issue would come up again and be the tool that kicks him out.
      :cry: for America, then pick myself up and fight for her!

  37. 74 Rich T August 23, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    Looks like Dr. Kate isn’t the only one writing about NULLIFICATION. From the PPJ Gazette site.

    when the federal government “assumes undelegated powers…” nullification of the act is the rightful remedy.

    http://www.nullifynow.com has tickets for seminars on nullifications at 5 cities, Ft. Worth, Orlando, Chattanooga, Phoenix & LA

    http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/when-the-federal-government-assumes-undelegated-powers%e2%80%a6-nullification-of-the-act-is-the-rightful-remedy/#more-11490

    For more than a century, We the People have been marching on D.C. in the hopes that federal politicians would see the light and limit federal power. We have been suing in federal courts in the hopes that federal judges would limit federal power. We keep “voting the bums out.” But every federal election cycle we end up with new bums that expand federal power!

    Asking, demanding, hoping – that the federal government will limit its own power – just doesn’t work. So why not try something new? Nullify Now!

    Thomas Jefferson wrote that when the federal government “assumes undelegated powers…” a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy.

    NULLIFICATION – has a long history in the American tradition. It is happening across the country RIGHT NOW. And YOU can help this growing movement go mainstream.

    How? Attend Nullify Now! – our multi-city tour to educate and activate in support of massive state resistance to unconstitutional federal laws, regulations and mandates.

    GET TICKETS NOW! – starting at just $10.00!

    http://www.nullifynow.com/tickets/

    Speakers and Event Dates:

    Sept 4th, Ft. Worth, TX
    New York Times best-selling author Thomas E. Woods talks about his new book, Nullification: How to Resist Tyranny in the 21st Century.

    10-10-10, Celebrate the 10th Amendment in Orlando!
    New York Times best-selling author Thomas E. Woods talks about his new book, Nullification: How to Resist Tyranny in the 21st Century. Also speaking will be Jim Babka of DownsizeDC and 10 other local and national guests.

    October 23rd in Chattanooga, TN
    Jack Hunter, columnist for the Charleston City Paper, “The Southern Avenger” personality for WTMA 1250 AM talk radio, and contributing editor to Taki’s Magazine and The American Conservative, joins us to discuss how nullification can be applied on issues across the spectrum. 10 other local and national speakers will be on hand as well.

    January 29th in Phoenix, AZ
    Details coming soon…

  38. 76 Jan August 23, 2010 at 11:41 pm

    Eye opening article in News With Views

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Wallace/andrew125.htm

    on where we go from here and why it is so important.

  39. 77 Jan August 23, 2010 at 11:49 pm

    Dr. Kate, I think I used the wrong choice of words. I in no way meant the birth cert was a non-issue, just that the crimes exposed in the book are horrible and will shake us all up.
    One was that obat decided to send billions to be distributed between countries less fortunate than us. When challenged, he said he could and he would, no one could stop him. That’s just a small sample. I ordered the book tonight, I’ll keep you posted.
    I think all the info we give to Issa will actually do something. I don’t think Issa will ignore us.

    • 78 drkate August 24, 2010 at 10:08 am

      I think I understood, Jan. There are many crimes, and one of them was his attack on american sensibilities to try to dumb us down to think it is the BC….

  40. 79 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    Steve Ayling, a 40-year-old Brooklyn plumber who carried his sign to a dry spot by an office building, said the people behind the mosque project are “the same people who took down the twin towers.”
    Opponents demand that the mosque be moved farther from the site where more than 2,700 people were killed on Sept. 11, 2001. “They should put it in the Middle East,” Ayling said.
    On a nearby sidewalk, police chased away a group that unfurled a banner with images of beating, stoning and other torture they said was committed by those who followed Islamic law.
    A mannequin wearing a keffiyeh, a traditional Arab headdress, was mounted on one of two mock missiles that were part of an anti-mosque installation. One missile was inscribed with the words: “Again? Freedom Targeted by Religion”; the other with “Obama: With a middle name Hussein. We understand. Bloomberg: What is your excuse?”

  41. 80 Quantum Leap August 23, 2010 at 11:55 pm

    Under Sharia law:
    • There is no freedom of religion
    • There is no freedom of speech
    • There is no freedom of thought
    • There is no freedom of artistic expression
    • There is no freedom of the press
    • There is no equality of peoples-a non-Muslim, a Kafir, is never equal to a Muslim
    • There are no equal rights for women
    • Women can be beaten
    • A non-Muslim cannot bear arms
    • There is no equal protection under Sharia for different classes of people. Justice is dualistic, with one set of laws for Muslim males and different laws for women and non-Muslims.
    • Our Constitution is a man-made document of ignorance, jahiliyah, that must submit to Sharia
    • There is no democracy, since that means that a non-Muslim is equal to a Muslim
    • Non-Muslims are dhimmis, third-class citizens
    • There is no Golden Rule
    • There is no critical thought
    • All governments must be ruled by Sharia law
    Unlike common law, Sharia is not interpretive, nor can it be changed

    • 81 MeJane August 25, 2010 at 2:17 pm

      Quantum Leap, Rush made an excellent point today – There is no separation of church and state in Islam, they are one and the same. How can the left progressives support Islam, when their favorite mantra is the separation of church and state?? How can they rectify and be comfortable with that notion, if that is what they really believe?? Is it only OK to have separation of church and state with the Christian, Jewish and every other religion except the Muslim religion? Their agenda is showing big time with that one.

  42. 82 Rich T August 24, 2010 at 12:12 am

    O/T: While this video looks like a clip from a video game, the scene setting looks like a American town.

    Is the Govt. sponsoring this 1st shooter video games like this to desensitize our youth so if/when the time comes they will look at firing on US citizens as a video game??????

    You be the judge…

  43. 83 Rich T August 24, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Saw this at Infowars and have not been able to verify via MSM (yea right). Bunch of different sites have it.
    Mexican Police To Patrol NY?

    One step closer to having UN troops here.

    http://www.infowars.com/mexican-police-to-patrol-ny/

    Jeffrey Smith
    American Free Press
    August 23, 2010

    NEW YORK, New York — In a series of events which has caused wide notice and a storm of protests, the government of Mexico, through its consulate in New York in the United Nations, has announced it will begin patrolling the New York City borough of Staten Island to “safeguard” its nationals there.

    The actions of Mexico come after a series of incidents the Mexican government terms “bias attacks.”

  44. 84 tiger 7 August 24, 2010 at 9:33 am

    Today’s WND has a feature on a new epistle on bho’s impeachment—with a good summary of offenses. The natives are indeed getting restless—high time!!

  45. 85 no-nonsense-nancy August 24, 2010 at 9:46 am

    Troy, that video game is very scary. To think our youth may be taken in by it. Where is it all going to stop?

    Quantum, thank you for giving us the list of Sharia laws. I’m going to copy it into a handout for DC.

    Papoose, thanks for the video of Chalice! Now I know what she looks like. I listen to her every week.

    STOP THEM COLD!!!

  46. 86 Quantum Leap August 24, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    Oh that sounds Great NNN.

  47. 87 Quantum Leap August 24, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    Nancy,
    I hope you can pass them out to women. Women need to know that we are teetering on going nack to the dark ages. Women need to fight. The youth take women’s rights for granted. Well they’ll have to wear more than a girdle if sharia takes hold. This is no joke. Women need to know that sharia classes women as objects worse than the family pet.
    Sorry to say the country will collapse without women’s rights. We hold up half of the sky.

  48. 88 Al August 24, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    Cheers to the concept of Nullification. Too bad we didn’t rally in time to nullify the shenanigans of Election 2008. One of the key Founding Fathers tried to warn against excessive, big government…

    “Since the general civilization of mankind,
    I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of freedoms
    of the people by gradual and silent encroachment of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations.”

    –James Madison

  49. 89 JinAlabama August 24, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    I sincerely think our poor downtrodden pResident needs a new job. We can appoint him as Agitator-In-Chief. The way I see things, he is as a community organizer, an agitator. Someone who relishes in stirring the masses up. As in “are we gettin fired up” during the primaries and G.E. campaigns. It is all he knows. Pissing people off to get them fired up at one another. Charges of racism to turn blacks against whites and vice versa. In Arizona, sueing the state to get hispanics pissed off at whites and everyone else. Now it the religious being turned on one another which is his hopefully last best chance to get people pissed off enough to start trading blows and gunfire, etc. Then he can declare himself dictator Obama. Martial Law. Except for one small thing. The majority of the American people are a slow to wrath, peace loving sort who aren’t quick to jump when taunted. It hasn’t worked out so well for the poor agitator in chief. Has it. Well he just has to work harder in my opinion. If he keeps pushing our buttons by George he is going to find the right one.

    • 90 JinAlabama August 24, 2010 at 1:45 pm

      Oh and one other part I forgot, look how he turned AG’s of each state, Governor’s against AG’s etc. over the Heath Care crap. Everything he touches, it is through agitating and turning one group against another.

  50. 91 ARMY D.A.V. August 24, 2010 at 3:58 pm

    JinAlabama

    I sincerely think our poor downtrodden pResident needs a new job. We can appoint him as Agitator-In-Chief.

    *****************************
    Good thought Jin, but,alas,he’s not Constitutionally eligible for that job position either .

    • 92 JinAlabama August 24, 2010 at 4:32 pm

      Oh well, (sigh) D.A.V. I tried. I keep listening to the news people go on and on about the mosque. I just read over at Hot Air that he is trying to take over the fishing industries. I remember watching these old movies, good ones like you don’t see much anymore where the good guys when they were outnumbered would be forced to turn the tables on the bad guys to get them fighting amongst themselves and after they had eventually shot one another, the good guys could step in and arrest the rest. Too bad the blogosphere could not turn the tables on this administration the same way and have them warring with one another. Agitate them as they are doing to the American people. Obama and his bunch of dems are terrorizing the American people almost every day with something new and twice as bad.

  51. 94 ARMY D.A.V. August 24, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    Jin

    ” get them fighting amongst themselves ”

    ***********************************

    We’re already seeing this , they are beginning to fight among themselves.

    Keep agitating .

    Haec protegimus

  52. 96 Quantum Leap August 24, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    “We’ve tried 19 months of government-as-community organizer,” Boehner said. “It hasn’t worked.” :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Boehner pulls a boner on the faux pResident

  53. 98 Quantum Leap August 24, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    Here is my sign idea NNN.

    “We gave you a chance BHO and it hasn’t worked out. We want a divorce. signed The American People.

    Add a couple stars and strips surrounding it and some free-falling dollar signs .

    OR

    Just say no to Sharia Law in America. Preserve our constitution. Preserve our freedom. Stand up Americans and be counted now! Fight to save our freedom. Vote them out.

  54. 99 no-nonsense-nancy August 24, 2010 at 7:27 pm

    Will do, Quantum! I’ll definately do the one about divorce. I like that!

  55. 100 Search the Web on Snap.com August 24, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Go Lame Cherry!!!!

    STOP THEM COLD!!

  56. 102 Rich T. August 24, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    Looks like another case of ACORN/Project Vote that the ursurper is behind with the socialists community organizing…..BUT this time their not getting away with it.

    video at the link.

    http://www.khou.com/news/local/-Harris-County-Registrar-investigates-voter-registration-irregularities-101433479.html

    Harris County Registrar investigates voter registration irregularities

    by Ron Trevino/11 News

    khou.com

    Posted on August 24, 2010 at 7:29 PM

    Updated today at 7:43 PM

    HOUSTON — The Harris County Registrar’s Office is investigating allegations of voter registration fraud by a registration project called Houston Votes.

    “My office has been forced to expend countless hours and thousands of dollars of taxpayer money, trying to sift through the garbage being dumped into our voter registration system under this organized effort,” Harris County Voter Registrar Leo Vasquez said Tuesday at a news conference.

    Among the allegations: multiple applications for the same person, signatures that don’t match, incomplete applications and accusations that staff members of Houston Votes were pressuring people to fill out new applications, even if they had already registered.

    “This activity will not be tolerated in Harris County, Texas, and it will stop here,” Vasquez said.

    There was a large crowd at the news conference Vasquez conducted. Among those in attendance were members of a group called True the Vote, who claimed they had brought the issue to light.

    But the director of Houston Votes said most of the allegations are not true.

    “I think it’s poor to make a judgment, cast a judgment made up by allegations of few select people and cast doubt on an entire organization,” said Sean Caddle.

    He said mistakes are made when you register tens of thousands of voters, and that Houston Votes has already fired a number of people.

  57. 103 ARMY D.A.V. August 24, 2010 at 11:48 pm

    State Department propaganda site says dual citizenship doesn’t disqualify Seotoro , anyone care to set the state department straight?.

    http://blogs.america.gov/rumors/2009/08/21/the-obama-birth-controversy/

  58. 104 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 12:16 am

    OMG. McCain won in AZ against Hayworth.
    I think Allen West lost too. Does anyone know?

    It’s not looking good.

  59. 108 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 12:45 am

    Reporter suspended for reporting the truth about obama.

  60. 109 Jan August 25, 2010 at 12:51 am

    Papoose, want a really scary item on education go here:
    Subject: Fw: $578 million dollar public school! This one was built in Los Angeles and now that the state is broke, it sits empty. Let’s pray that no other state can afford to build these.

    Similar schools are popping up all over the country; often in poverty areas.

    They are “community education” schools called for by UNESCO’s lifelong learning concept. They will be for “all of us” birth through death and will house abortion clinics, art and music classes, fancy gyms, health clinics…you name it, all under the umbrella of the “unelected” school district.

    Go to http://www.americandeception.com for information on community education. Type “Feld” into search engine.

    When one of the nation’s finest researchers asked a community educator at a conference on community education in 1970 what it could be compared with he replied: “the system in Communist China”.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/08/24/mxp.half.billion.dollar.school.hln?hpt=C2

    http://theweek.com/article/index/206368/americas-most-expensive-public-school-what-578-million-buys

  61. 111 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 12:54 am

    Thugs Intimidate Questioners at Illinois Congresswoman’s Town Hall

  62. 112 Jan August 25, 2010 at 12:55 am

    Rich T,
    I sent your article to my friend in TX and she said the news has been going crazy with the info all day.

  63. 113 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 1:04 am

    SEIU Intimidation at Meg Whitman Fundraiser

  64. 114 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 1:15 am

    Touching. God bless America at mosque protest.

  65. 115 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 1:26 am

    West says

    “With a vast majority of the precincts having reported their results, we will have defeated David Brady by a margin of nearly 4 to 1. With GOP turnout significantly higher than democratic turnout throughout District 22, our victory tonight is proof that South Floridians are sick and tired of the status-quo in Washington, and are looking for leaders instead of politicians.”

    4-1 WoW

    And the winner is…. the real constitutional scholar, Allen West.

  66. 116 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 1:30 am

    Miller, Joe REP 27787 50.88%
    Murkowski, Lisa REP 26822 49.12%
    Might want to keep an eye on Alaska

    http://elect.alaska.net/data/results.htm

  67. 118 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 2:42 am

    sorry if I’m over posting but for those who want to view
    The Obama Deception – Extra Part 2

  68. 119 Quantum Leap August 25, 2010 at 2:43 am

    sorry if I’m over posting but for those who want to view
    The Obama Deception – Extra Part 2

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2824363/the_obama_deception_extra_part_2/

    • 120 Papoose August 25, 2010 at 5:47 pm

      Thanks, QL.

      I think these videos should are essential and should be kept on a current thread so they do not get lost in the shuffle.

      By way of this comment, I am requesting drkate consider a special thread where we can post any videos we find that show the utter contempt and ownership these so called elected officials show for their constituents. This is becoming endemic and it is unacceptable.

      I think a thread or a tab entitled Government Intimidation would be a good idea as these threats are real. What goes on in one district affects us all in the end. They have a lot a gall.

      We need to put an end to this bull. If a Congressperson/ Senator or any elected official including people who sit on authoritative boards brings a brute / union thug / bouncer to threaten a citizen then that person needs to be recalled immediately and forced out of office for actions bordering on assault, intimidation, oppression and stalking.

      They are definitely inciting riots which could lead to personal injury and property damage which doesn’t even scratch the surface as to the personal injury sustained.

      False imprisonment comes to mind. the unlawful act of detaining a person with an intent/ threat to inflict harm.

      Shame the person in the Bean video above didn’t faint on the spot.

    • 124 Papoose August 25, 2010 at 7:05 pm

      Secret is August 4th, 2010.

      We can have a really big bash next year when the usurping, treasonous, traitor, domestic enemy celebrates his maybe 50th Birthday to coincide with Kenya’s first Anniversary.

      Sickening.

      What more do you need to know?

      I need to go write a song in tribute to the tune of I’m Dreaming of a White Christmas.

      I’m dreaming of my ar—ab fath-er, just like the one I did not know….

  69. 126 MeJane August 25, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    If we want our States impowered we have to rescind the 17th amendment. The design of our Government by our founding fathers has been altered with this seen or unseen consequences the 17th amendment has brought us.
    As a result of the 71th amendment the States have no voice in Washington. The Senate as the founders wrote in the Constitution were appointed by the State Legislature and not in a general popular election. The house of Representatives (elected in a general election) represented the people and the Senate represented the State. This appointment process made the Senate work in conjunction with the State Legislature who appointed them. The States have lost the large part of their power and when the States lose power, so do the people.

    Consequences of the 17th Amendment:

    -It eliminated true bicameralism and its checks on power, popular passions, partisanship, and excessive or special interest legislation;
    -It removed states as participants in national government formation and control;
    -It disrupted federalism and its proper vertical distribution of power between national, state, county, and individual levels;
    -It increased the growth, power, and expense of the national government;
    -It diminished the role, power, and prestige of states and their legislatures;
    -It contributed to powerlessness and dependency among our citizenry by reducing their power and responsibility;
    -It changed the character of Senators and the Senate, making them beholden to political parties, special interests, campaign donors, and rent-seekers

  70. 127 Russ Vansant January 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Barack Obama’s Ineligibility And Nullification
    November 19, 2010
    Barack Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya when his mother and father were visiting the country. His father was a British citizen of Kenya, his place of birth. Refer to a photo of Obama’s legal birth certificate obtained from the government of Kenya’s records office on the website, http://www.RevoltAgainstMarxism.com. OBAMA BIO TAB.
    The “Certificate of Birth” that appeared on the internet before the election is not a legal birth certificate and can be obtained by anyone not born in the state of Hawaii. A person working for the Obama campaign has allegedly stated he forged the “Certificate of Birth” for Obama.
    An American, reportedly now living in California, who worked in the Hawaiian state records office during the Obama presidential campaign and was responsible for issuing copies of Hawaiian birth certificates has stated “I am willing to testify that there is no birth certificate for Barack Obama on file in the Hawaiian records office”. Barack Obama does not have a United States birth certificate and will not be able to produce one.
    The birth announcements in local Hawaiian newspapers were either automatically placed as a result of the “Certificate of Birth”, which may or may not have been filed, or were placed by his grandfather, Stanley Dunham who lived in Hawaii.
    Obama’s mother was a United States citizen at his birth which yields the possibility of conveying citizenship on her son but, she was eighteen years of age at his birth and the law at the time required her to be a United States resident for five years after she reached the age of fourteen. That would require her to be nineteen years of age when he was born. Therefore she could not convey citizenship on her son and he would have Kenyan (actually British) citizenship.
    Also, Obama and his mother moved to Indonesia when he was seven or eight years old to live with Stanley Dunham Obama Sotero’s new husband Lolo Sotero. In order to attend school in Indonesia, which he reportedly did, he was required to give up his citizenship from where he came and take Indonesian citizenship. When he returned to the United States he would have to file for United States citizenship and there is no evidence of that being done.
    I submit Barack Obama has never been a citizen of the United States! He has no visa to be in the country. This makes Barack Obama Sotero an illegal alien in the United States. What is an illegal alien subject to in our country? Deportation!!
    Obama knows he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. He is lying to the American public. He is not eligible to be a candidate for president and therefore is an illegal “president”. Obama is a usurper. George Soros and others have carried out the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the citizens of the United States!
    This matter is being pursued by a number of court cases and the illegal Soros/Obama administration is fighting these court cases every way possible. It is necessary for a court case to progress to the level for legal discovery that will force the accused to produce a birth certificate. Obama will not be able to produce a legal US birth certificate and will be exposed.
    A court case of note is Lt. Colonel Terry Lakin who is challenging Obama’s status as Commander in Chief and his right to give Lt. Colonel Lakin a military order to go to Afghanistan. This Court Martial case is scheduled for December 14 at Ft. George Meade, Maryland. See COUNTDOWN to Court-Martial (Fort Meade, MD, Dec 14-15) Refer to the website: http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com. This is a very informative website regarding the entire eligibility matter and they need our moral, action and financial support. They are just concerned citizens in support of the courageous, principled and unselfish Lt. Col. Terry Lakin. He faces, if convicted, a sentence of jail at hard labor.
    NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY! Since Obama is not a legal resident of the United States and not president of our country everything he has done, approved or signed should be NULLIFIED including the two nominees placed on the Supreme Court. President Biden will be required to review and in some cases redo prior actions. Since Congress and the national knowledge (mood) have changed, things might turn out differently. The only proper and legal solution to this matter is to follow the law. If the law is not followed to the letter there will be numerous items left in question to be challenged in future years. For example the Supreme Court nominees may be challenged as to their legality and everything they voted upon. The Health Care legislation can be challenged in the future and possibility nullified.
    We are a nation of laws, not men, and when we follow the law Obama will be removed from the Whitehouse, will not be the 44th president of the United States, will not receive Secret Service protection, will not receive retirement or healthcare from the government and will be deported. We cannot wait until the 2012 election. This action can be and must be forced by the public becoming aware and creating a national uproar! The Tea Party must be the leader.
    By properly carrying out the law, the citizens of the United States will demonstrate to the world we are a society of laws, controlled by the people. You and I control our country, not elected officials, not money and operatives in Washington DC, not the media.
    This is an epic historical period in the history of the United States, comparable to the Revolutionary War, the Declaration of Independence, and the Civil War. We have an opportunity to show the world that a representative, Republican government with a capitalistic economy can correct grievous wrongs and go forward to greater accomplishment and success! We are Americans!

    References: World Net Daily, Joseph Farah, Editor, and CEO. http://www.wnd.com
    Lt. Col. Terry Lakin Court Martial, http://www.safeguardourconstitution.com
    Educational Anti-Marxism, http://www.RevoltAgainstMarxism.com
    Internet E-News , http://www.thepostemail.com
    The Western Center For Journalism, wcj@westernjournalism.com


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