Who is a Natural Born Citizen?

©2011 drkate

(see update at end)

unconstitutional

It is time for the democrats, the republicans, the Tea Party, the media, and the supporters of the Obama regime to have a serious discussion of the Constitution’s Article II natural born citizenship clause and the meaning of allegiance to the United States.  Being the President is not a ‘right’, or an equal opportunity; nor does it have anything to do with skin color. The Constitutional requirements for the Presidency cannot be overridden by an election.

Americans by now have  basic gut feeling that Obama is not an American. We see and experience that he is a person who dislikes our Nation and its founding documents.  We also instinctively now know that Obama is not a  ‘natural born citizen’.  We know all politicians lie, but a natural born Citizen President would not:

  • Jail Terry Lakin for requesting the information necessary to prove the authenticity of the CIC’s orders.  In fact, if Obama had been vetted and was proven an NBC, Terry Lakin would be in Afghanistan helping his fellow soldiers.
  • Treat the military with disrespect
  • Sue a state for exercising its Ninth and Tenth Amendment priorities
  • Invade or bomb Libya at the request of the international community or without Congressional approval
  • Seize the economy
  • Apologize for America
  • Refuse to salute the flag or honor the National Anthem
  • Declare Christianity irrelevant
  • Fly the Chinese flag over the White House

These are serious violations of the law, the Constitution and the national security of the Nation.

Over the course of these months there have been many cogent descriptions of who is a natural born citizen. One of the best to date–Unalienable and Undivided Natural Allegiance– I am pleased to cross post with permission from The Birthers:

Unalienable and Undivided Natural Allegiance

©2011 TeoBaer, The Birthers

Because we differ in who the Founding Fathers turned to for their definition of a natural born citizen, Blackstone’s English common law or the Vattel’s Law of Nations, we turn a blind eye to the obvious, defining quality a natural born citizen at birth.

This is not to say those who support Vattel are wrong, in fact the Supreme Court is on their side with numerous cases defining the circumstances of the birth of a natural born citizen exactly as Vattel wrote. For those who support Blackstone they only have the uncertainty and ambiguity of Supreme Court decisions.

Take for instance, the MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U. S. 162 (1874) case, which says no one ever doubted Vattel’s definition, but Blackstone’s definition was in doubt to the children of Aliens.

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

But there is another way to read this, no one had doubts to the complete allegiance of those born in the country to parents who were citizens of that country, but to those who acquired dual nationality at birth there were doubts to their complete allegiance to the United States.

Wong Kim Ark did little to relieve this doubt, but it was the case that allowed dual citizenship in the United States. Before Wong Kim Ark there were no Supreme Court cases involving a dual citizen. But those that followed raised many questions over the allegiance or loyalty of such a creature.

Raising the child in an atmosphere of divided loyalties

Justice Blackmun commented in Rogers v. Bellei, 401 U.S. 815 (1971) “The Congress has an appropriate concern with problems attendant on dual nationality. These problems are particularly acute when it is the father who is the child’s alien parent and the father chooses to have his family reside in the country of his own nationality. The child is reared, at best, in an atmosphere of divided loyalty. We cannot say that a concern that the child’s own primary allegiance is to the country of his birth and of his father’s allegiance is either misplaced or arbitrary. “

Entanglements

Justice Brennan recognized this when, concurring in Kennedy v. Mendoza-Martinez, 372 U. S. 144 (1963), a case concerning native-born citizens, he observed: “We have recognized the entanglements which may stem from dual allegiance. . . .”

 Foreign Claims to Allegiance

Justice Douglas said of dual nationality in Kawakita v. United States, 343 U. S. 717 (1952)”one who has a dual nationality will be subject to claims from both nations, claims which at times may be competing or conflicting,” that one with dual nationality cannot turn that status “into a fair-weather citizenship,” and that “circumstances may compel one who has a dual nationality to do acts which otherwise would not be compatible with the obligations of American citizenship,”

 Historically the United States was against dual citizenship

Justice Burton stated in Savorgnan v. United States, 338 U.S. 491 (1950)that “The United States has long recognized the general undesirability of dual allegiances.”

On this last issue the United States was offered by the English negotiator for the Treaty of Paris, David Hartley wants to make Americans and Englishmen dual citizens, “Neither shall the independence of the United States be construed any further than as independence, absolute and unlimited, in matters of government, as well as commerce. Not into alienation, and therefore the subjects of his Britannic majesty and the citizens of the United States shall mutually be considered as natural born subjects, and enjoy all rights and privileges as such in the respective dominions and territories in the manner heretofore accustomed.

This offer of course was rejected. Instead America charted a new vision and ideal for who would become a natural born citizen.

 Who is a natural born citizen?

In all the Supreme Court cases only one describes the quality a natural born citizen is born with, and the arrival of this quality does not depend on Blackstone or Vattel, for as Yogi Berra once said, “it is what it is.”

On that day, Mrs. Shanks was found under allegiance to the State of South Carolina as a natural born citizen to a community, one of whose fundamental principles was that natural allegiance was unalienable, and this principle was at no time relaxed by that state by any express provision, while it retained the undivided control over the rights and liabilities of its citizens. SHANKS V. DUPONT, 28 U. S. 242 (1830)

Simply put, a natural born citizen is person who is born with only one allegiance and that allegiance is undivided allegiance to the nation state it was born into.

Using this quality one can see that Vattel is right in his definition, and at times Blackstone was also right. It could be argued that the children of aliens whose parents native country do not recognize the jus sanguinis birthright and who are born in the United States are natural born citizens, because at their birth they only possess natural allegiance for the United States. The same could be true of the children of American citizen parents who were born in a country that did not afford jus soli citizenship, for they too at birth would only have natural allegiance to the United States.

Why is this definition correct? It is the correct definition of a natural born citizen that puts aside the concerns of our founding fathers when they wrote,

Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.” John Jay to George Washington, 1787

Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? Alexander Hamilton Federalist Papers 68

The only question you need to answer is does the requirement that a natural born citizen have undivided, unalienable natural allegiance to the United States prevent a person with foreign allegiances (a foreigner) from the presidency and does this natural quality of a natural born citizen prevent a foreign government from raising a dual citizen (a creature of their own) to usurp the office of the President of the United States?

Barack Hussein Obama, II by his own admission is a creature of foreign entanglements at birth and that his natural allegiance was divided at birth and this division made his allegiance to the United States alienable depending upon the jurisdiction he found himself in.

“When Barack Obama, Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.” Obama’s 2008 Campaign website

The warning and intent of our founding fathers has been ignored, the Office of the President of the United States has been usurped by a creature of a foreign government, one who never possessed at birth, complete and undivided, unalienable allegiance to the United States of America.

Usurper in Chief Soetoro

Update

In my opinion, until the Constitution is amended with agreement of 2/3 of the States, or the U.S. Supreme Court chooses to clarify the definition of ‘natural born citizen’, there is no constitutional or legal authority to arbitrarily declare birth place–jus soli– the only criterion for natural born citizenship.

Edwin Viera , a constitutional scholar, warned cogently in October 2008

“If Obama turns out to be nothing more than an usurper who has fraudulently seized control of the Presidency, not only will the Constitution have been egregiously flouted, but also this whole country could be, likely will be, destroyed as a consequence. And if this country is even credibly threatened with destruction, every American will be harmed—irretrievably, should the threat become actuality—including those who voted or intend to vote for Obama, who are also part of We the People. Therefore, in this situation, any and every American must have “standing” to demand—and must demand, both in judicial fora and in the fora of public opinion that Obama immediately and conclusively prove himself eligible for “the Office of President.”

Canada Free Press contributor Lawrence Sellin also warns:

What happens then, if through some tragic mistake of history, Obama is re-elected? Congress could find themselves, not only in dereliction of their duty, but potentially contributing to the destruction of our republic.

128 Responses to “Who is a Natural Born Citizen?”


  1. 1 Jan April 24, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Thank you Dr. K, great post. This should wake up a lot, and maybe shut up even more.

  2. 2 ObamaRelease YourRecords April 24, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Bloomberg On Obama’s Eligibility; $50.00 Social Security Cards

    • 3 drkate April 24, 2011 at 8:59 pm

      What an A$$. Their covering is so apparent…trying to sound ‘serious’, they are all part of the problem

      • 4 heather April 25, 2011 at 7:37 am

        Bloomburg—Huge NWO thug–does all his billion dollar biz with the arabs, on our tax dollar! Traitor—and can they ever get it right—it is called NATURAL BORN CITIZEN not citizen–once again, how stupid and deaf are these people.

  3. 6 anonymouse April 24, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    And here is the law, CRA 1866 STILL ON THE BOOKS
    “That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States; and such citizens, of every race and color, without regard to any previous condition of slavery or involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall have the same right, in every State ””

    What I don’t understand is that if there’s already a law which says Obama is NOT A US CITIZEN then why is there any discussion?
    I know there’s a lot of CONFUSION over anchor babies and jus-soli only-s, but the LAW is clear…if you have no US citizen parents you are NOT a born citizen ever, though you can naturalize potentially by oath.

  4. 9 A Crazy Old Coot April 24, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Has anyone else seen this??

    http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

    Sunday, June 27, 2004

    Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate
    ——————————————————————————–
    Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

    The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.
    ///////////////
    Read the rest at the above link .

  5. 22 drkate April 24, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Barack Hussein Obama’s public eligibility trial to begin.

    What’s your name? Barry Soetoro
    Who’s your daddy…and who is your mommy? :shock:

    Hey Michelle–you are in this up to your eyeballs and you know it.

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=291009

  6. 23 Quantum Leap April 24, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Still batting this fraking issue back and forth:?: It’s simple and clear. Now congress needs to boot his arse out. He doesn’t meet the requirements. He has not proven he does meet the requirements so out he goes. The burden of proof is HIS! It’s simple…..BORN OF 2 citizen parents (NOT ONE) whether THEY BE naturalized or Natural born, and you must have been born on American soil to be called a NATURAL BORN citizen to hold office of POTUS. Simple K.I.S.S.

    IF YOU ARE AN ANCHOR BABY YOU ARE NOT A ‘NATURAL BORN’ CITIZEN. 2 citizen parents are required to be a “natural born citizen.”

    ‘NATIVE BORN’ IS JUST A PLAY ON WORDS. IT HAS NO MEANING. IT’S A MADE UP WORD OF THE FAR LEFT. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NATIVE BORN FOR USA

    Beat the issue to death when it’s as clear as glass. He has not met the requirments to be POTUS. CASE CLOSED. BUH BYE con man Barry you fuggin’ liar…..(YOU D*CKHEAD YOU)

    There are only 2 terms pertaining to citizenship.

    naturalized (foreign immigrant with papers, sworn in and took an oath for citizenship)
    natural born (born of 2 citizen parents on US soil<—–this is the only way someone can be POTUS) <——- Why argue? It's simple. He has not met the requirements…….

    All other terms are made up by the fuggin' marxist con man who stole the Dem party.

  7. 24 anonymouse April 24, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    This kid is laughing at Obama

  8. 25 anonymouse April 24, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    This is like getting Boehner and Issa to do their jobs

  9. 26 anonymouse April 24, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    After Americans fight the Democommies and win, and they try to escape accountability, they will still fail…

    http://www.break.com/index/goose-fight-with-surprise-ending-2048659

  10. 27 drkate April 24, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    OT Countries with diplomatic relations but no extradition treaty with US:

    Afghanistan, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, the Central African Republic, Chad, China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Croatia, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Indonesia, Ivory Coast, Kosovo, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Libya, Madagascar, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Slovenia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Vatican, Vietnam, Yemen, and Zimbabwe.

  11. 28 drkate April 24, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    OT

    The countries which have neither diplomatic relations nor extradition treaties with the U.S. are:

    Bhutan, Cuba, Iran, Korea (North)

    US proposing extradition with Taiwan

  12. 29 anonymouse April 24, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Dem Dov. Association site is worried about birther bills and about GOP govs interference with their planned gerrymandering.

  13. 30 anonymouse April 24, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Dem. Gov. Association, I mean…

  14. 34 borderraven April 24, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Well done!

  15. 35 themunz April 25, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Wanted to share this so you can get it out there. Keep up the fight, We The People deserve better than this

  16. 36 Jan April 25, 2011 at 12:33 am

    THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST READ.
    WE START FIRST BY REMOVING OBAT AND THEN HEAD ON DOWN THE LIST.

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Evensen/greg162.htm

  17. 37 Jan April 25, 2011 at 12:40 am

    What has Hilary and obat gotten us in to now?

    Saudis give up on US, instigate direct Gulf action against Iran
    DEBKAfile Exclusive Report April 19, 2011, 1:58 PM (GMT+02:00)
    Tags: Saudi Arabia Iran US Israel Stuxnet

    Iranian “students” rampage in Tehran
    After giving up on US and Israel ever confronting Iran, Saudi Arabia has gone out on a limb against the Obama administration

  18. 39 anonymouse April 25, 2011 at 2:47 am

    So they’re sending out a GOP senator from Hawaii to “IMPLY” that BHO has, perhaps, a different daddy…or something…

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=291041

    Hawaii senator questions Obama’s true birth father
    ‘There is information, for reasons known only to him, he doesn’t want released’
    Posted: April 24, 2011
    3:20 pm Eastern

    © 2011 WorldNetDaily

    State Sen. Sam Slom

    The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate told a radio interviewer today he believes “the real issue” stopping Barack Obama from releasing his long-form birth certificate is something the president has to hide, perhaps even the name of his actual birth father.

    Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom further told the host of “Aaron Klein Investigative Radio” on WABC 770 AM in New York City that so long as Obama refuses to be transparent about his past, questions about the president’s birth remain “a legitimate issue.”

    “My particular point of view – and why I haven’t identified myself as a ‘birther,’ per se – is that [Obama] probably was born [in Hawaii] and that the real issue is not the birth certificate, but what’s on the birth certificate,” Slom told Klein.

    Asked what that could be, Slom said, “It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father.”

    He continued, “My belief is that there is a birth certificate, he was born here, but that there is information that for reasons known only to him he doesn’t want released. If it were just the birth certificate, that would be one thing, but it’s his school records, it’s employment records. … Why would anybody, let alone the president of the United States, spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep that hidden?”

    “As long as that goes on,” he concluded, “I think it’s a legitimate issue.”

    Make your contribution to the TV ad campaign for Jerome Corsi’s “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” now. Donations of $25 or more gets you a first-edition, author signed copy of the book as soon as it rolls off the presses.

    As WND has reported, besides Obama’s actual birth documentation, the president has refused to release his Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, Illinois State Bar Association records, baptism records and his adoption records.

    The interview with Slom can be heard below, with his comments about Obama’s father coming near the end, after the 10-minute mark:

    Slom told Klein that he knew the Obama family well. He said he lived in the same building as Obama near Honolulu’s Kapiolani Medical Center – where many speculate Obama was born – when the future president was a teenager, worked with Obama’s maternal grandmother and buried his father in the same cemetery where Obama’s Grandfather Dunham was buried. Slom said one of his own sons was born in Kapiolani only a few years after Obama was born.

    But as WND reported, that hasn’t stopped Slom from asking other people a simple question: “You’ve got to have [a birth certificate to present], why don’t we require that of the president?”

    Though Slom had previously refused the label of “birther,” he told Jeff Katz of WXKS Radio in Boston, “Why would anybody, let alone the president, spend all this money, all this time, all this effort, not to disclose the information? And of course, we can come up with several different possibilities, but as Donald Trump and others have said, gee, it would be so much simpler if he just disclosed it and we move on.”

    Klein also asked Slom about recent statements made by former Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino to MSNBC, in which she claimed Hawaii law prevents Obama’s long-form birth certificate from being disclosed, even to Obama himself.

    “I didn’t hear the statements on MSNBC,” Slom admitted, “but I do not believe that part is true.”

  19. 42 anonymouse April 25, 2011 at 2:49 am

    This is what I thought they might do,
    soap-opera-ize it all, make it a sympatico story

    “Well gee Obama was so embarrassed that he MADE UP a life story, photoshopped all these pictures, but you can understand that right? The stressors! Oh! The stressors put upon him living a lie. He can come out of his closet now and be hisself! He’ll do the legal name change and then all’s good right?”

  20. 43 anonymouse April 25, 2011 at 3:04 am

    Obama has a new Daddy?
    Time for Dr. Kate’s Trump Campaign Song

    WHAT’S YOUR NAME? WHO’S YOUR DADDY? IS HE RICH LIKE ME?

    Trump/Corsi’s pressure must be pushing the penis-on-shoulders to crack.

    • 44 anonymouse April 25, 2011 at 3:26 am

      THE OBOT TALKING POINTS ARE ALREADY SCREAMING ACROSS THE BLOGS

      “did you know up to 53% of kids don’t know who their daddy is?
      “did you know gerald ford’s real father was leslie lynch king but his mom told him otherwise?”
      “did you know when folks go to get an organ transplant from a family member its very common they’re not related?”

      then they’re distancing from the COLB
      “obama never said that was his”

      oh bullshit, it was on his paid for by barack obama site

      wow

  21. 45 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 5:37 am

    Obama: “But enough about me… What do YOU think about me?”
    :-)

  22. 47 workingclass artist April 25, 2011 at 5:52 am

    For those that enjoy symbolic imagery….
    Lightning struck the WH on Easter evening….

    http://obamafoodorama.blogspot.com/2011/04/easter-storm-over-white-house.html

  23. 51 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 5:59 am

    The Hawaiian senator is perhaps new to the issue and is just going through the possibilities.
    Of course Obots are already making their excuses, they have always only reacted to us, twist anything, but they have never told a story. except that anybody who asks question must be a racist, LOL!

    It is my opinion too, that Obama is hiding core data. Birth place, Birth name, Parents…. all possible.
    But we don’t know, because he is hiding it.
    There is no excuse.
    It is deception.
    Nobody forced him to become a candidate.
    This is a scam of huge proportions.

    I really hope Corsi’s book is going to be what we think it is.
    Perfect timing btw. short after Trump shook things up.
    Instant bestseller.

  24. 52 Ken April 25, 2011 at 7:00 am

    I have been glued to my computer since way before the primary season began. Well into 2007. I have been opposed to Obama as not being a NBC but long ago gave up on the false idea that he might have been born in Hawaii. I decided long ago the strong evidence showed he was born in Kenya.

    I have watch at remarkable researchers have dug up so much on Obama. I find it hard to believe there is much for Corsi to find out. Although he is a good investigator. I will be grateful for anything hew he finds. But I am not convinced that he will have a real bomb to produce. There are so many valid bombs out there. We really should not need a new one. But apparently we could use a couple of good bombs.

    I think Trump has helped us more than we realize already. MSM is now at least discussing it, even if to attempt to discredit us.

    Maybe I have been obsessed with this issue for so long. It has been hard for me to put it down. I love America and I love Freedom. I hate the Communists. I want them out of my country.

    I am a NBC born of 2 citizen parents in a hospital in USA. I have not had a president for 2 1/2 years now. God Bless America.

    Dr Kate it would be nice if the letters in this box where I write would be in regular dark density. It is almost impossible to read what I type. it is in half tone. too light to read. Please see if you can have that fixed. Not all of us have perfect youth eyes any more. God Bless you Dr Kate.

    • 53 RacerJim April 25, 2011 at 9:23 am

      I’m also not expecting any new “smoking gun” in Corsi’s soon to be released book but, rather, just a very well researched, written and footnoted reference work — everything in one place sorta speak.

      Go Trump! At least the MSM hears us now.

      I too have been obsessed with this issue for so long. Next to taking care of my soon to be 93 year old, widowed and somewhat physically challenged mother, this issue has been, is, and will continue being the most important thing in my life.

      As the son of a WWII & Korean Conflict Veteran and myself a Vietnam Veteran, I love America and everything it has stood for for almost 250 years. As an Army brat living/working in Munich West Germany in 1963-1964, due to my father’s national security clearance I was not allowed to go to many of the most popular bars/nightclubs because they were known to be KGB hangouts, within 100 kilometers (60 miles) of the border with East Germany, or to Berlin (the American sector of course). I too hate the Communists — and the Marxists, Socialists and Islamic fundamentalists as well. I want them all out of MY country also — because I’m worldly experience enough to KNOW they want to destroy MY country.

      I am a NBC also…born to US citizen parents on US soil…and I had to provide a “Certified Copy” of my original, long-form, hospital generated “Certificate of Live Birth” to the US Army Enlistment Office when I enlisted in the US Army in 1964. America has not had a President since January 20, 2009 but, rather, a usurper.

      God Bless America
      God Bless Our Troops
      God Bless You Dr. Kate.

  25. 54 Saska April 25, 2011 at 7:30 am

    Ken, God Bless You!! I feel just like you! I live in California, but I think we’re going to have to MARCH on DC and all of the Capitols of our great United States of America!! GO TRUMP!!

  26. 55 ARMY D.A.V. April 25, 2011 at 7:45 am

    Peter Makes A Call To Kapiolani Hospital In Hawaii To Ask If That Is Obama’s Birth Place.

    http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/04/peter-boyles-calls-kapiolani.html

  27. 56 charlesmountain April 25, 2011 at 8:33 am

    I believe Dr. Jeromer Corsi’s book will re-inforce existing theories and definitively prove the Usurper was born in Kenya. Corsi has already stated that Kenya is the Usurper’s birthplace. Farah says the book will be groundbreaking and end the Usurper’s time in the White House. My prediction is an exit sometime before July 4th, possibly by stepping away(down).

  28. 59 Jon April 25, 2011 at 8:42 am

    The Bloomberg channel has a debate program and this would be an excellent venue for Bloomberg to have both sides discuss this issue and have an audience that is both pro and con so that when voting is used it is unbiased. I remain puzzled that we have not seen academic debates on the natural born citizenship issue that can leave out Obama if thas is politically correct.

  29. 60 Troy April 25, 2011 at 8:52 am

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=291041

    Hawaii senator questions Obama’s true birth father
    ‘There is information, for reasons known only to him, he doesn’t want released’
    Posted: April 24, 2011
    3:20 pm Eastern

    © 2011 WorldNetDaily

    State Sen. Sam Slom

    The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate told a radio interviewer today he believes “the real issue” stopping Barack Obama from releasing his long-form birth certificate is something the president has to hide, perhaps even the name of his actual birth father.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    BS!!!….He stated in his book, that he didn’t write, that he found his birth certificate amongst some old newspaper clippings and other docs….If his BC shows him to have a pappy other than BHO Sr., then the little prick has known about it all along….He would’ve began the fraud when he didn’t write his book/lie.

    • 61 eddie h. April 25, 2011 at 9:16 am

      i agree. the sen. slom is talking bull shit. knowing somebody and parents is no proof of a kapaolini hospital birth. he needed to be reminded that not one person from the hospital comes forward with any information on the birth. b s. i have sent joseph farah an e-mail complaining about the points aaron klein failed to address durung the interview. that is the second time aaron klein interviewed sen. slom and did not hold his feet to the fire. slom was allowed to get away with making the same or similar statements. please others e-mail joseph farah and voice complaints about such lack of journalism by aaron klein.

      • 62 Born in Texas April 25, 2011 at 1:34 pm

        I’ve never felt Joseph Farah is a true American conservative. He allows a fair amount of propaganda to be published as “news” on his website – this is not my opinion but a fact. He has never embraced the concept of natural born as being two citizen parents. He has primarily focused on the birth certificate, which could be forged to say anything! Again, I’m not convinced he’s not part of the NWO.

  30. 64 A Crazy Old Coot April 25, 2011 at 9:54 am

    I still have a few concerns with the former Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino’s statement that Mr. obama’s birth certificate is located in HI.
    1) She does not say that the BC is from HI, just that HI has it.

    2) She does not verify that the COLB that has been presented is valid.

    3) She does not say if the BC has ever been modified or not.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy.

  31. 65 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 9:57 am

    From the WND article:
    “Slom told Klein that he knew the Obama family well. He said he lived in the same building as Obama near Honolulu’s Kapiolani Medical Center – where many speculate Obama was born –”

    Sounds to me like he is talking about the Dunhams.
    There was no Obama family in Hawaii, since SAD went to study in Washington state and didn’t return before Obama sr. went to the east coast.

    Like Trump said “something’s fishy here.”

    • 66 sky April 25, 2011 at 10:23 am

      patriotactionnetwork right side of page to view all artical obama administration & dept. of justice plot to dismantle U.S. constitution.Remember to make copies and spread important info around,remember a lot of people dont have computers.

  32. 67 sky April 25, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Believe it or not obama deposits 85 billion in honduras bank while in el savadore Is the drug traffic/bank the reason southern border is still open? patriotactionnetwork

  33. 69 eddie h. April 25, 2011 at 11:22 am

    why would the usurpur be hiding who his father is? he is already not eligible due to a kenyan father. sounds like sen. slom needs a lesson on what a natural born citizen is. he needs to be informed there are 2 u. s. citizens required along with being born on american soil. to believe soetori / obama was born at kapaolani hospital when not one person from the hospital knows anything is really nieve.

  34. 71 charlesmountain April 25, 2011 at 11:46 am

    “Arguments in one of the lawsuits challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility to be President of the United States has finally worked its way through the California court system and will be heard by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on May 2. In this complaint, Taitz represents co-plaintiffs, who include former Ambassador and presidential candidate Alan Keyes, 10 state Representatives, and 30 members of the military.”

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/7235-challenge-to-president-obamas-eligibility-to-be-heard-by-9th-circuit-court

  35. 72 Alain April 25, 2011 at 11:49 am

    When does the Corsi book come out? Should be eye opening. I understand that it is currently number one at amazon dot com.

    Of interest also, I was visiting Illinois this weekend for the Easter holiday and now I know what you folks mean about chemtrails. They were everywhere. Flying from Florida into O’Hare I was aghast at the sheer volume. We have them here but nothing like that.

  36. 74 Alain April 25, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Thanks Dr Kate. That will definately be a pre-order.

  37. 75 drkate April 25, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    OT–text of Newsmax column, since removed, about Obama inviting a military coup…

    Full Text Of Newsmax Column Suggesting Military Coup Against Obama
    Here is the full text of John L. Perry’s column on Newsmax which suggests that a military coup to “resolve the Obama problem” is becoming more possible and is not “unrealistic.” Perry also writes that a coup, while not “ideal,” may be preferable to “Obama’s radical ideal” — and would “restore and defend the Constitution.” Newsmax has since removed the column from its website.

    Obama Risks a Domestic Military Intervention
    By: John L. Perry
    There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the “Obama problem.” Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.
    America isn’t the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn’t mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:
    # Officers swear to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Unlike enlisted personnel, they do not swear to “obey the orders of the president of the United States.”
    # Top military officers can see the Constitution they are sworn to defend being trampled as American institutions and enterprises are nationalized.
    # They can see that Americans are increasingly alarmed that this nation, under President Barack Obama, may not even be recognizable as America by the 2012 election, in which he will surely seek continuation in office.
    # They can see that the economy — ravaged by deficits, taxes, unemployment, and impending inflation — is financially reliant on foreign lender governments.
    # They can see this president waging undeclared war on the intelligence community, without whose rigorous and independent functions the armed services are rendered blind in an ever-more hostile world overseas and at home.
    # They can see the dismantling of defenses against missiles targeted at this nation by avowed enemies, even as America’s troop strength is allowed to sag.
    # They can see the horror of major warfare erupting simultaneously in two, and possibly three, far-flung theaters before America can react in time.
    # They can see the nation’s safety and their own military establishments and honor placed in jeopardy as never before.

    So, if you are one of those observant military professionals, what do you do?
    Wait until this president bungles into losing the war in Afghanistan, and Pakistan’s arsenal of nuclear bombs falls into the hands of militant Islam?
    Wait until Israel is forced to launch air strikes on Iran’s nuclear-bomb plants, and the Middle East explodes, destabilizing or subjugating the Free World?
    What happens if the generals Obama sent to win the Afghan war are told by this president (who now says, “I’m not interested in victory”) that they will be denied troops they must have to win? Do they follow orders they cannot carry out, consistent with their oath of duty? Do they resign en masse? Or do they soldier on, hoping the 2010 congressional elections will reverse the situation? Do they dare gamble the national survival on such political whims?

    Anyone who imagines that those thoughts are not weighing heavily on the intellect and conscience of America’s military leadership is lost in a fool’s fog.Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a “family intervention,” with some form of limited, shared responsibility?

    Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.

    Military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for “fundamental change” toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.

    Unthinkable? Then think up an alternative, non-violent solution to the Obama problem. Just don’t shrug and say, “We can always worry about that later.”

    In the 2008 election, that was the wistful, self-indulgent, indifferent reliance on abnegation of personal responsibility that has sunk the nation into this morass.

    • 76 drkate April 25, 2011 at 12:53 pm

      also OT, but great news! Terry Lakin coming home, May 14 welcome

      http://www.terrylakinactionfund.com/homecoming

      • 77 Quantum Leap April 25, 2011 at 2:46 pm

        That’s great now they need to restore his benefits that he EARNED.

      • 78 JinAlabama April 25, 2011 at 6:46 pm

        drkate does Dr. Lakin now have STANDING to go against Obama in a court of law? Wasn’t the requirement by the courts that a person has to be harmed by what the turd- in- chief has done in order to have standing. Seems to me that Col Lakin has been ridiculed, humiliated, and court martialed because he refused to follow the orders of someone who refused the simple demand to see a B.C. before he went into battle on his behalf. If he doesn’t have STANDING, then geesh, who does?

        • 79 drkate April 25, 2011 at 8:17 pm

          Yes he does but it is up to him now whether he goes forward. I imagine he wants time with his family to reassess everything, including next steps!

    • 80 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      from when is the article?
      I remember reading something like that a year or so ago.

  38. 82 Jan April 25, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    Hummmm, good question, anyone have an answer? Forwarded to me by a friend from another friend.

    Jim,

    You need to ask Orley T if she ever pulled the flight records out of Kenya around Obama’s B day?
    Those flight manifests might tell a really unique story.

    I was told that his Mother was not allowed to leave Kenya because of her pregnancy __ She was in labor and tried to get back to Hawaii but they refused to let her on the plane and made her wait until Obama was born to fly home.

    If we could get those records __ Wow!

    Roger Fredinburg

  39. 83 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Steve Wynn on Cavuto

  40. 84 JanH April 25, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Dr. Kate-

    To add to your list of things a natural born American citizen would not do, we would not call another nation “home.”

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/video-obama-speaking-in-kenya-with-mass.html

  41. 85 Quantum Leap April 25, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    OT/(CNSNews.com) –

    Voters in Kansas will need to show a photo ID the next time they go to the polls.

    In a signing ceremony last week, Republican Gov. Sam Brownback signed a bill to protect the integrity of elections, he said: “We must be able to accurately and fairly discern the will of the people of Kansas.”

    While Gov. Brownback said the new law establishes “reasonable steps” to protect the rights of citizens, the American Civil Liberties Union called it a “giant leap backwards.”

    The new Kansas law requires photo ID from all in-person voters at every election. People submitting mail-in ballots must include either a copy of their photo ID or the number from the photo ID card. The law also requires proof of citizenship – a birth certificate, for example — for new voters who register on or after Jan. 1, 2013.

    According to the ACLU, 32 state legislatures have introduced similar photo ID bills this year.

    They cry that it will disenfranchise the low income folks.
    I often wonder at the logic of how showing an ID disenfranchises poor and minority voters. It seems to me that no one can cash a check at Walmart without a photo ID, and no one complains that disenfranchises them. Why is voting different?
    The “disenfranchised poor and minority” folks cannot even cash a welfare check or obtain FOOD STAMPS without a valid photo ID! (So, what’s the problem?) Oh that’s right the illegals will have to provide ID
    ~~~~~~
    In LA RAZA occupied MEXIFORNIA, Sens. Dianne Feinstein, and Boxer, both LA RAZA endorsed, and both LISTED ON JUDICIAL WATCH’S 10 MOST CORRUPT, have spent most of their political lives servicing illegals.

    LA RAZA demands that illegals not have to produce I.D., and says NO TO ENGLISH ONLY!

    Feinstein Boxer have both fought against ID to vote, and ENGLISH ONLY.

    HISPANDERING OBAMA has also voted against ENGLISH ONLY.

    WHY ARE MOST DEMS HISPANDERERS?
    *

    http://mexicanoccupation.blogs

    Why do they continue to use Blacks as useful idiots…….. just to keep their political selves in power?

  42. 86 ObamaRelease YourRecords April 25, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Video: Obama Speaking In Kenya With Mass Murderer Raila Odinga: I Am So Proud To Come Back Home; Michelle Obama Agrees…

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/video-obama-speaking-in-kenya-with-mass.html

    • 87 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 3:37 pm

      Thinking about what an elitist snob Obama is, this must have been a tough acting job on his part.
      Pretending he is happy to be there….

      • 88 anonymouse April 26, 2011 at 12:23 am

        Ofraud is just a mud-hutter like George, when all is said and done, that’s more than he deserves, shucking corn and chasing the chickens.

  43. 89 Tenacity April 25, 2011 at 3:38 pm

    OT – Speaking of Radical Left-Wing Conspiracies: An Algore on Apple’s Board? http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/bod.html

    Now we know why the I-phones and pads have tracking software in them.

  44. 90 Rene April 25, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    Fox just officially announced that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he is a US citizen on 4 PM news west coast time .More obfuscation by FOX who are carrying water for O

  45. 93 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    OMG!
    It’s just driving them nuts!

  46. 97 Tenacity April 25, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    What’s driving them nuts is that their influence on the polls has so drastically diminished. When they had…okay, how do I say this and honor my commitment…Well, I just don’t believe the puppet masters had a clue that The Donald’s poll numbers would soar the way they have with the right. This is a sure sign that the internet has climbed tremendously as THE primary news source and the LSM no longer serves has propaganda king.

  47. 99 Jan April 25, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Watch how the state legislature votes during session in Texas (Austin)

  48. 100 anonymouse April 25, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    TAKE ME HOME, KENYA ROADS
    SING ALONG EVERYONE!!!
    ALMOST HEAVEN
    MOMBASSA KENYA
    MINARETS BLASTING
    MUHAMMAD IS MY PROPHET
    LIFE IS POOR HERE, POOR AND DISEASED
    WOMEN WEAR THEIR SLAVE BAGS
    ARMPIT ROT ON THE BREEZE
    TAKE ME HOME! MOMBASSA KENYA!
    TO THE PLACE I BELONG!!
    WITH GEORGE IN A MUD HUT

    • 101 ARMY D.A.V. April 25, 2011 at 8:50 pm

      After the Bush clan, Clinton and the Indonesian it’s almost hell, West Virginia. Country roads take be home where there is lots of food stamps for everyone.

  49. 102 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    BREAKING NEWS!

    It’s on!
    Ron Paul is in for 2012!
    WOW!

    http://www.dailypaul.com/162742/breaking-on-drudge-ron-paul-is-in-for-2012

  50. 103 Katie April 25, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Traitors to the left of me, traitors to the right.

    Jan Brewer: Birtherism is leading America “down a path of destruction”

    http://hotair.com/archives/2011/04/25/jan-brewer-birtherism-is-leading-america-down-a-path-of-destruction/

    • 104 Troy April 25, 2011 at 9:24 pm

      The commie skag really needs to pull her bottom lip over her head and swallow!

    • 106 Troy April 25, 2011 at 9:27 pm

      No, Commiebama is doing that….We’re just calling him out on it!

      C’mon Corsi…We can’t wait until May 17th….Bust that commie freak NOW!!!

    • 107 finneganswig April 25, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      But I thought it was just a “joke” of an issue, bandied about by a few “fringe” rightwing nutjobs? Now all of a sudden it’s “leading America down a path of destruction”? Wow. The ruling class and the media are really working overtime all of sudden covering for barry on this. I guess they’re feeling the heat between Trump, Corsi’s book, and the states w/legislation in the works. Anyway Brewer’s completely lost my respect.

  51. 108 AttilasDaughter April 25, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    First FOX and now CNN decide that Obama is legit:

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/04/25/birthers.obama.hawaii/index.html

    By what authority?
    Any original documents?
    Nada!
    It’s because we say so.

  52. 110 charlesmountain April 26, 2011 at 12:04 am

    They are all afraid of the ramifications of the Usurpers constitutional ineligibility, and they indeed have a point. Both political parties will suffer immeasurable damage, primarily the Democratic, which will be inevitably destroyed. Irreparable harm has been committed against our republic and system of government. The only real winners will be the American people but any trust in government or the media will be gone forever. Never will so much be gained at such a loss. Yet it must be done.

  53. 111 Troy April 26, 2011 at 7:23 am

    You folks have got to listen to this from Peter Boyles’ radio show.

    http://www.khow.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/player.html?redir=yes&mps=fullshow_boyles.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/DENVER-CO/KHOW-AM/ODE TO OBAMA.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=DENVER-CO&NG_FORMAT=&NG_ID=&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.khow.com&SITE_ID=636&STATION_ID=KHOW-AM&TRACK=

  54. 115 sky April 26, 2011 at 9:43 am

    patriotactionnetwork right side column of articals to view all, artical 545 vs 300,ooo,ooo people by charles reese, make copies of this and spread around

  55. 117 itooktheredpill July 2, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    My comment to Leo Donofrio: (currently awaiting his moderation, but I wanted to share it here, too)

    Leo,

    MEMORANDUM April 3, 2009
    Subject Qualifications for the Office of President of the United States and Legal Challenges to the Eligibility of a Candidate
    From: Jack Maskell
    Legislative Attorney
    American Law Division
    This memorandum was prepared to enable distribution to more than one congressional office.

    I have downloaded that memo from scribd in PDF form, then run Optical Character Recognition (OCR) on them, and then uploaded it here:

    41131059-CRS-Congressional-Internal-Memo-What-to-Tell-Your-Constituents-Regarding-Obama-Eligibility-Questions (with OCR)

    I think it’s worth noting that the Congressional Research Service memo mentioned you twice, Wong Kim Ark nine times, and Minor v Happersett ZERO TIMES.

    It would appear that one of the reasons why references to the precedent in Minor were scrubbed was so that the Congressional Research Service could publish the following lie to members of Congress:

    The court thus implicitly adopted a meaning of the term “natural born Citizen” in the presidential eligibility clause which would include not only the narrow “common law” (based on apparent British common law) and the later United States constitutional designation for 14th Amendment purposes, that is, one born “in” the United States (jus soli), but also the statutory designation by Congress of one entitled to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth” transmitted from one’s parent or parents (jus sanguinis).

  56. 119 Ray July 3, 2011 at 12:55 am

    What is the status on the seal on the April 27th Long Form? I keep hearing that there is no seal on it. I can see the seal. It is in and under 20., 21., and 23.

    I am convinced that this doc was not tampered with in the White House. This was all done in Hawaii.

    His enemies and his friends were both complicit in generating the birth certificate.

    • 120 Ray July 3, 2011 at 1:20 am

      Are we live?

      I have no doubt the BC and Obama are both frauds.

    • 121 Alex July 3, 2011 at 3:56 am

      I think we Birthers are his only enemies. All of government – Democrats, Republicans, and Independents – are Obama’s friends, because apparently none of these weasels can live without the good graces of the Big Money Backers.

      What are the BMB going to do if they don’t toe the line – kill them??

      • 122 RacerJim July 3, 2011 at 9:19 am

        I think we TRUTHERS are his only domestic enemies. All of the Legislative branch, the Judicial branch, the Fourth branch (media) and, of course, his entire administration are his friends apparantly because they are more interested in self-preservation than preserving America.

    • 124 RacerJim July 3, 2011 at 8:39 am

      At normal size I cannot see a seal on Obama’s LFBC. At normal size not only can I see a seal on each of the Nordyke twins LFBC’s but, moreover, I can also read the “STATE OF HAWAII * HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH” circular text within the two outter rings of the seal. At 300%-500% magnification I can see faint bits and pieces of what appears to be two outter rings of a seal near/under Items 20, 21 and 23 on Obama’s LFBC but nothing even remotely comparable to the Nordyke twins LFBCs at the same magnification.

      According to the letters posted along with Obama’s LFBC on April 27th by the White House, the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health personnally handed Obama’s personal lawyer two PHOTOCOPIED paper copies of Obama’s LFBC — i.e., NOT SCANNED, PHOTOSHOPPED, THEN BURNED TO CD-ROM/DVD AS *.PDF DIGITAL IMAGES THEREOF.

      Obama and his friends were complicit in generating his FRAUDULENT long-form birth certificate.


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