Creating Terror Since 1995

©2011 drkate

But an additional case of explosives was unaccounted for.

This stunning article  (h/t Tenacity) posted in the Freedom Daily links Eric Holder, aka Eric Holdup, to the Oklahoma City bombers in an operation that sounds a lot like Fast and Furious.  While the article has disappeared, the story is reported again here:

…the Oklahoma City bombing had aspects of being an FBI sting operation that went out of control. Holder had authorized the FBI to provide explosives to Nichols and McVeigh, then lost track of both the explosives and their targets. McVeigh went on to detonate some of the explosives outside the federal building, an act that was designed to help anti-terrorism legislation pass Congress. But an additional case of explosives was unaccounted for. (emphasis added)

The article goes on to point out how Holder directed the FBI to confiscate this missing box before any other agency found it.

The case of explosives was, however, recovered by another law enforcement agency and was later determined to have the incriminating  fingerprints of two FBI agents, as well as fingerprints of McVeigh and Nichols.

As current Attorney General the fast and furious act is designed to ‘help anti-gun pass Anti-American gun control legislation pass Congress.  So, the pattern is to create and arm the Mexican drug cabals [the terrorist], create chaos and murder, then pass the NDAA legislation [anti-terror] to detain Americans so long as there is a ‘war’ on drugs or ‘war’ on terror.

Larger than this incompetent is the plan disclosed in this video, found in context here.  The war on liberty and financial freedom has been underway for a long time, before our founding as a Nation; with the same tactics being used over and over again.  And now they kill us in huge amounts, like OKC and 9-11; the chemtrails, vaccines, economic system, and the means of food production. Planned ‘incompetence’ as represented by people like Eric Holdup,  purchased by the global elite and placed inside governments all over the world, now has a firm grip on America. We are not fighting the Constitution; this global cabal is, and everyone is disposable.

Almost two years beyond my mid-50’s, this has happened before my eyes my entire life yet only recently do I know what actually has occurred.  It feels like a huge loss of America, and now I know it was intended to be a life-changing loss. The attacks of  the WTC (93), OKC, TWA Flight 800, and 9-11 have all the markings of the plan, Agenda 21 facilitating governmental control every day.

It is time to return home: to our Creator-God, to the Constitution for the united States and every protection associated with that legal doctrine, and no other craftily- usurped jurisprudence.  Time to look in the mirror and recognize the Patriot who has been called on a mission.  Time to find out what that mission is.

Billions in gold stored beneath WTC-7. No wonder they had to "pull it"

233 Responses to “Creating Terror Since 1995”


    • 2 cedartree December 18, 2011 at 11:13 pm

      They should cook him and serve him to the starving masses (who have turned to cannibalism to survive) with lots of Johnny’s Seasoning Salt.

  1. 3 Jan December 18, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Great article Dr. K, thank you.
    Holder was also the attorney representing GITMO detainees. He’ll never step down, why should he. That smirk on his face is saying that his orders don’t come from Congress.
    Only 300 sit at this earthly throne with all their slave doing their bidding. I knew there was a reason to make hillary Sec of State. She is evil, where obat is just greedy,well, he’s evil also.
    I remember for years being angry at our government and feeling there was nothing we could do about it. Maybe with the web, we just might stand a chance. All states should withdraw.

    • 4 Troy December 18, 2011 at 9:01 pm

      I sure wish Texas would secede….It would be a shocker for the whole world to see and it would serve as a wake-up call to DC, not to mention a domino effect as other states begin to secede as well….Damn, it would be awesome!

      • 5 Jan December 18, 2011 at 10:46 pm

        AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!

      • 6 cedartree December 19, 2011 at 9:20 am

        Texas just has to not renew its participation contract; it is not like the other states. The fact that it continually renews is the reason for concern.

        Pretty soon paper won’t matter about anything.

    • 7 heather December 19, 2011 at 11:44 am

      Ditto Jan–we should all secede, every single state.

  2. 8 Troy December 18, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    According to the report Wilcock gave, the WTC demolition amounted to nothing more than a gold heist in broad daylight.

    That may be a big part of it, in fact I’m certain of it, but another huge part was to create the fake “war on terror” to feed the military industrial complex beast….Also, to begin taking away our God given rights in preparation for rolling out the “New World Order”.

    9/11 was a multipurpose false flag operation, as was the OKC bombing.

    • 9 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 12:13 am

      My thoughts exactly Troy and I never read the report. It is so stinking obvious.

      Good read drkate. I didn’t know holdup was indirectly or directly involved in the Okalhoma City bombing. The truth will come out no matter how much they f around with words….. words …just words for the new fascist dems who stole the Democrat party. This is all making sense now.

      Ack….. Nikki Haley endorsed Mittens the NWO RINO.

      • 10 Tenacity December 19, 2011 at 12:21 am

        Wilcock is just regurgitating what others have said. The WTC/Pentagon and OKC were both also wiping out investigators and records/evidence.

      • 11 Troy December 19, 2011 at 12:25 am

        Yeah, it didn’t take them long to co-opt her….I would love to know how they are able to do that so quickly with just about everyone that enters into public office.

        • 12 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 12:49 am

          It’s called bribe money and lots of it. people are selling their souls for some of that government bribe money at the expense of the people. Occupoopers? are you listening?

    • 13 heather December 19, 2011 at 11:48 am

      Exactly- an all purpose false flag! GWB should be hung from the highest tree for crimes against America and her people. We need to set an example for everyone so just pick a potus to convict and sentence. Any one of them will do–my pick is GWB since he laid the final ground work for barry to finish us off.

  3. 15 Jan December 18, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    OT sorry, Hum – William F. Buckley Jr’s Nephew Fires at National Review | CNSnews.com
    Source: cnsnews.com

    William F. Buckley Jr. (1925-2008), the founder of National Review magazine in 1955 and prominent leader of the conservative movement for more than half a century. He retired as editor-in-chief of National Review in 1990. (AP Photo) Brent Bozell, the nephew of conservative icon William F. Buckley Jr., who founded National Review magazine in 1955, and whose father, Leo Brent Bozell, collaborated with Buckley for many years at NR, today dismissed the magazine as having lost the identity forged for…

    http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/william-f-buckley-jr-s-nephew-fires-national-review

  4. 16 Troy December 18, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    CBS has to save the jackass narcissist from himself
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Obama claims he’s 4th best president
    But ’60 Minutes’ edits out assertion from broadcast interview
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: December 18, 2011
    1:36 pm Eastern

    © 2011 The Blaze

    President Barack Obama sat for an extensive interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes” last week, though it appears the portion of the interview actually broadcast on TV left out a statement where Obama essentially declared himself the fourth best president in terms of his accomplishments.

    The statement was only made available online as part of the full interview on “60 Minutes Overtime.”

    According to a transcript posted on the “60 Minutes” website, Obama said he would hold his accomplishments so far as president against those of Lyndon B. Johnson, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln.

    Click here for the full story.

    Read more: Obama claims he’s 4th best president http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=378853#ixzz1gx13gY2R

    • 17 Jan December 18, 2011 at 10:47 pm

      When he compares him self to the four worst, wonder if he puts himself on the bottom of the pile of dung?

    • 18 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 12:27 am

      Yep. The serial liar is mincing words again. He can’t really believe he is the fourth best president can he? He’s saying that to get people to THINK it. It won’t work. Most everyone KNOWS that he is a failure. FDR? He was a marxist. Lyndon Johnson? He was a big fat failure, so much so that he declined a second term. Lincoln? He only freed the slaves for ulterior motives. He did nothing else. He died before he could do anything meaningful.

      KEEP WATCHING THEM PLAY THEIR TRICKS. Watch the right hand when the left hand is tricking you.

      President ‘kick the can’ down the road has pissed off his base for good.
      The new bill that the arsshole signed which detains American citizens indefinitely without maranda rights has gotten the occupoopers protesting again. They are pissed. How much is his latest vacation costing tax payers this time? Something like $17,000,000??? Anyone know the exact figure? It could be more. 1 in 2 people in this country are poverty level lining up to food banks and he takes his fat arse on a Christmas holiday fun in the sun on the tax payer dime…. sick son of betch.

  5. 19 Troy December 18, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Assholes!!!!!!
    ++++++++
    GOP will take off the gloves if Ron Paul wins Iowa

    If Paul wins, how will the media and the GOP react? Much of the media will ignore him (expect headlines like “Romney Beats out Gingrich for Second Place in Iowa”). Some in the Republican establishment and the conservative media will panic. Others will calmly move to crush him, with the full cooperation of the liberal mainstream media.

    more: (BS) http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/gop-will-take-gloves-if-ron-paul-wins-iowa/264111

      • 21 drkate December 18, 2011 at 10:10 pm

        thanks, perfect match to this post! :smile:

        We are going to have to keep the faith…is God working here?

      • 22 drkate December 18, 2011 at 10:12 pm

        he has to go ‘constitutional’ on Obama, because he is not running against Congress anymore. That is the paradigm shift that would give confidence he can take on Obama..

        • 23 Ann December 18, 2011 at 11:22 pm

          I’m convinced he’d make Obozo look like a blubbering idiot. He’ll go Constitutional on him and that jackass will show his true colors to all the world. I can’t wait!

        • 25 heather December 19, 2011 at 1:08 pm

          I dont care what they call me–be it racist, bigot, who cares–I am who I am and these are my God given rights. I don’t abuse anyone or anything and am a law abiding Natural Born American Citizen and will not bow down to anyone.

          Being called a racist is the game they play and use on those who are ignorant of their rights. Stand up people and show your American Heritage and be proud.

    • 26 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 12:35 am

      It won’t work. They can trash Dr Paul all they want but hey, it’s not like they are supporting him now or giving him any attention and he is ahead in the polls if they only got honest about it. He’s winning without them. :lol:
      Dr Paul better win Iowa. OBOTS, get aboard the Paul train. It’s what you wanted all along. :grin: We warned you once and are warning you again… Snap out of it and vote for Dr Paul or be a slave to the Gov. for real until you die.

      The rest of us will have to keep praying and asking for divine intervention.

  6. 27 Drew December 18, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Obama Signs NDAA Martial Law

  7. 29 deafy2 December 18, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    That thing about Holder back then … Issa knows about this?

  8. 34 cedartree December 18, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Wow I listened to this entire thing, and though a few pieces (such as about virus vibrations) do not jibe with my bioscience training, overall it was fascinating.

    OK so they want to kill half of humanity and stick them into guarded Cabrini-Green islands and leave the vast majority of land as “nature” into which humans are not welcome. What’s the point?

    He emphasized that the states are NATION STATES held together by a contract called the Constitution, which gives the Federal government only a tiny and withdraw-able amount of power.

    How many times have I heard that bogus line: “Federal law trumps state law”…when in fact it is the direct opposite!

    And no president is Commander in Chief except when Congress declares a war…maybe that’s why they perpetuate the War on Terror. The more I learn the more disgusted I am at all the fake history we’ve been taught. And to think EVERY major war and terror attack the US has been involved with has been a false flag!

    • 35 cedartree December 18, 2011 at 11:07 pm

      and the bottom line?

      BRITANNIA STILL RULES THE WAVES!!

      WE ARE RULED BY BRITAIN. Every time you see the Queen of England realize she is your ruler by consequence of the extension of historical cabals. For shame. All the pomp of Wills and Kate, they are just next in line.

    • 37 Troy December 18, 2011 at 11:48 pm

      Remember the big anthrax attacks / scare, via the U.S. mail?
      I guaran-damn-tee you that was a military / CIA false flag operation also…..It always did stink to high heaven, just like a big ol’ rat!

      • 38 heather December 19, 2011 at 11:58 am

        About 6 months before my sons final discharge from the navy, they wanted all the troops from every branch to get an anthrax shot–just prior to going into Iraq in 3-03. Luckily my sons final 8 yr enlistment was up in 11-02 or he would have been with the marines — he was, are you ready for this?—a navy corpsman! — and assigned to the naval hospital ship HOPE.

        If the military was part of the anthrax scare plot, the troops were not–but they were being used as pin cushions for this shot. Most of the troops did not get the shot–they stood together and said NO.

  9. 39 cedartree December 18, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    I also listened to the former CIA asset who testified that the WTC was wired and that the terrorists were like the 19 Stooges and needed help to even fly the planes into the buildings. She was in prison under the Patriot Act for a year.

    Also remember that the BP oil rig was blown up, they also covered up that “accident” using military.

    In fact, if anything blows up, cracks up, heats up, gets poisoned, etc. the FIRST suspicion should always be that it’s another false flag.

    • 40 cedartree December 18, 2011 at 11:25 pm

      and OBL’s DNA was presented as a “match” to a relative’s ond and a half hours after he was supposedly shot? Ahahhahahaha! NOT POSSIBLE no way. It was in Pakistan, the only fast labs are in the US, they take at least 2 hours, and THEN it has to be matched to a relative’s DNA which was flown in and then analyzed, takes even more time.
      Obama is so stupid to have jumped the gun to announce this, as if DNA can be emailed or something. Benazir Bhutto said that OBL was long dead in 2007; Paris press said OBL had terminal end stage renal failure in 2001.

      So you can bring this obvious impossibility up and there’s a pre-established ridiculing mechanism (troofer, birfer, obler, whatever) which never, and I mean never, addresses any of the points at hand.

      Everything is a false flag. I think humanity is messed up, there is crime and mayhem, but mostljust wants to LIVE in PEACE, were it not for an element of very evil freaks and sociopaths who seek some control.
      Again, for what?

  10. 41 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 12:46 am

    So the GOP wants to attack Dr Paul. That just goes to show you. The one that the repubs and dems don’t want is THE ONE FOR AMERICA AND THE PEOPLE. Of course the ones in control of this country now only want crooks like themselves so they can continue to rob the people of this nation and turn us into slaves for minimum wage. If Dr Paul is president he stops all these crooks and…… game over. :grin: NO NWO either if Paul is prez. No he’s not the kook. The people running the show now are the KOOKS.

  11. 43 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 3:04 am

    That Muther f*cker. The people who voted for this Otyrant all need to be beat up and put out of thier misery. No one knows who he really is, where he was born or what his real birth date is.

    • 44 heather December 19, 2011 at 1:21 pm

      Well this video needs to go viral everywhere, this will eliminate illegal immigration for sure.

      This is reminding me more and more of ROBO COP!

  12. 45 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 3:41 am

    Isn’t it fishy that the day the troops come home the Otyrant’s bill is passed and the Bill of RIghts is null and void? Thanks obots. Now go f yourselves.
    We no longer have a constitution. RISE UP PATRIOTS! RISE UP ON THE WH LAWN. (he’s going to use the troops to round up the occupoopers, obots and patriots and put them in detention (death camps) no excuse needed.) NWO is on the march.
    Sorry if I’m over posting but this peeves me off to no end. We knew this would happen before he was elected.

    Vote Ron Paul. Get rid of the Oracist.

  13. 46 texbilld December 19, 2011 at 3:43 am

    Yes,drkate said it all in her last thread “The government gone rogue !” What really puzzles me is that the very people who have signed on
    to the NDAA fiasco,can’t seem to realize they are now caught in the same trap.There are many things said about “Congress” but “intelligent” doesn’t seem to apply.

  14. 47 Troy December 19, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Check out the Headline Story at Drudge! :D:

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  15. 49 Troy December 19, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Justice Dept silent as Holder charges critics with racism

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/19/justice-dept-silent-as-holder-charges-critics-with-racism/#ixzz1h04u29FS
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yeah, whatever you say there, Buckwheat! :lol:

    • 50 heather December 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm

      ‘buukwheat’ lmao!! nicer than what my husband calls them! finger in the face–bite it off–i would–and racist due to african american????–hey we the people need to turn the racist word to our advantage and use it against them. they are racist against all white people–and i for one will start the ball rolling. i am so sick of this racist crap.

      • 51 deafy2 December 19, 2011 at 7:01 pm

        am just so sick of all this BS!

        is this a part of their plans, to stir up and get us to act out, to then have an excuse to put us in those camps?

  16. 52 Tenacity December 19, 2011 at 9:53 am

    This is an interesting analysis.
    Paul takes lead as Gingrich collapses in Iowa

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_IA_1218925.pdf

    • 53 Tenacity December 19, 2011 at 9:56 am

      Troy, funny, this time I posted this before seeing what you had just posted above. Great minds…

    • 56 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      Yeah. Anyone who doesn’t back Dr Paul is a bona fide IDIOT! He’s president for all not just blacks (10% of the entire population).

      When are they going to boot out Holdup? Devil be gone. USA is draped in the blood of Jesus. We will be restored all the things the locusts (crooks in WH) have stolen from us. In the blood of Jesus. Satan be gone.

      Nikki what’s her name…… gone….. she backs Newt the NWO pig….
      Vote them all out and put new ones in.

      ANYONE ANYWHERE WHO DOES NOT BACK DR, ECONOMIST, GENIUS AND CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL IS NOT FIT TO LIVE ON GOD’S GREEN EARTH. MAKE A NOTE OF IT.

      IT’S TIME WE GOT AN HONEST MAN IN THE WH. SICK OF LIARS.

      • 57 heather December 20, 2011 at 9:36 pm

        QL-I agree–Ron Paul has a massive following and the gop knows it and they also know he has woken up the people to see for themselves what has been done to us over the decades-as I said before, we the people are innocent of all that has been done, we voted for the promises that they made and then turned them into lies. We are innocent of this.

        Ron Paul is hated by both parties because he is waking up the people to the evil tricks that have and are being done right under our noses. This puts the fear of God in them and they don’t want to lose their cushy life styles that they robbed from us and if Ron Paul is elected they are gone! simple as that.

        Newt is feared because he is preaching what a constitutionalist he pretends to be and what he will do to the scotus with arrests. Don’t believe any of that. However, he is telling us what we want to happen to bring back our govt but again its a ploy for our vote. Vote them all out!

        From this day forward, with each new election do not vote for the person already in office, vote them out and vote in a new person, let them know we mean what we say. Never give them a 2nd term-ever again!

    • 59 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 11:16 pm

      Newt Grinch NEVER HAD THE LEAD. MSM must now try to cover their lies by saying he’s collapsing in IA. It’s between Dr Paul and M Bachmann like it or not. Nothing has changed. It’s always been that way.

  17. 63 Troy December 19, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Oh my!…He really did convince these people that he was their god….The years of lying bullshit that he convinced these people of must be unfathomable.

  18. 65 Troy December 19, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Barry’s new Egyptian government, that he installed, dealing with protesters.

    Graphic

  19. 67 heather December 19, 2011 at 11:17 am

    http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/gop-will-take-gloves-if-ron-paul-wins-iowa/264111

    are we the people going to allow the gop to squash our voting rights on who we want to lead this country back to where it belongs? I say Hell NO–they have no right to chose for us. This is our right.

    • 68 drkate December 19, 2011 at 11:21 am

      It will backfire on them. If the people choose Paul, and the R’s don’t like it, it just will show us more who they are, and that they do not want Obama to lose, and if they win, they’ll continue the games, wars, and theft.

  20. 69 A Crazy Old Coot December 19, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Good read drkate. Just a fyi: At the time of the bombing, I was working at the Lexington A&R Center (state prison) in Lexington, OK., which is about 35 miles south of OKC. My wife was working at the Hobby Lobby Corp headquarters “in” Okc and she felt the explosion. From our experiences in Alaska and California, she thought it was an earthquake until the radio and TV reports started to come in.

    Quite a few of my fellow officers from the prison were involved in the cleanup afterwards. Most of them didn’t want to talk about due to the horror of it all.

    OT: Merry CHRISTmas to all !!

  21. 71 drkate December 19, 2011 at 11:46 am

    OT, h/t Jan

  22. 72 heather December 19, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/18/curl-one-president-please-with-a-side-of-rice/

    oh please not condi–she’s one of them — cfr, bilderberger, trilateral–guareented if they let us pick our potus, they will shove her in as vp to watch over our next potus that we pick—i think they know Ron Paul is pick.

    • 73 heather December 19, 2011 at 12:15 pm

      of course they will use the ” FIRST BLACK FEMALE” trick that worked with barry……..as the first black potus. BULL –

    • 76 sky December 19, 2011 at 4:57 pm

      heard that a lot of ceo’s and millions aires ask for subsidies from the tax payer,to get for products and research,tell them to use some of their money,or ask the rothschilds or goldman sachs.No to selling U.S. land to foreign countries,also water.This is like a over throw of the republic of the U.S.Everything being shoved down our throats.END THE FED NOW,and THE UN,FREDDIE & FANNIE,IMF,Council of foreign relations.type in you tube just how big is oklahoma’s goverment, video, happening in other states.prowling owl.com also in other states.endfinancialfraud.org, Everything should be nullified that obama has signed.Freeze his assets till he comes up with his records,and says he has caused treason for fast & furious,and murder of rancher done by a mexican terrorist or a terrorist from another country.Every pilot flying obama and michele also should stop if they dont they are involved in treason,also freeze all assets of people on capitol hell , mean hill.Also his adminstration,And czars,Joint Chiefs,VP,Freeze all money going to the DNC,Tides,Rockefeller foundation,etc.dont contribute to any presidential libraries.

  23. 77 heather December 19, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57344905/iran-broadcasts-alleged-u.s-spys-confession/?tag=mncol;lst;1

    will this american be the first to end up in the new indefinite detention camp? just whisked away and never heard from again? a false flag to show the american people, whose in charge!

    • 78 drkate December 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm

      the iranians will kill him. he was working for the us cabal. the detention camps are made for you and me, not their agents.

  24. 79 Jan December 19, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    I can’t stand Newt, however i was prone to cheer when he said he would put judges in handcuffs. Unfortunately, Dems could do the same thing.

    http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/the-dangerous-supreme-court/#more-34822

    • 80 SirLurksAlot December 19, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      We only have a 7 member Supreme Court. I don’t want this court to decide anything.

    • 81 Tenacity December 19, 2011 at 7:18 pm

      sure he would….NOT. ‘Do as I say, not as I do’ is the standard. If I was the Great Carnack I would now open the envelop and read the question, “What does Newt have in common with Obama?.”

    • 83 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 10:48 pm

      Newt is just another blowhard Pompous a$$. He says what you want to hear. The executive branch has no jurisdiction over judges. All three branches of government are separate from each other and have no power over each other…… Oh wait, Obullsh*tter destroyed the constitution and Bill of Rights.

  25. 84 Troy December 19, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    I’m sure Holder supplied both the guns and drugs….He seems to be notorious for that.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Year-long D.C. undercover sting netted arrests, guns, drugs

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/yearlong-dc-undercover-sting-netted-arrests-guns-drugs/2011/11/07/gIQAztVn4O_story.html

  26. 88 Troy December 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm

    http://heyokapatriots.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/what-are-your-visions-of-sugar-plums/#comment-22174

    Dora says:
    December 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm (Edit)
    It now looks like that story about Holder and his connection to Oklahoma City is more disinformation:

    http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/sipsey-street-irregulars-gets-to-the-bottom-of-it/

    • 89 Tenacity December 19, 2011 at 8:33 pm

      I wouldn’t be so quick to discount a story posted in American Free Press. However, the article has disappeared from AFP. I saved the article and the screen as I still had a tab open with it. It was posted by Admin and I will try to find out why it was removed. I assume others are not able to access it now. Let me know if anyone finds it. Thanks.

  27. 90 Troy December 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    http://heyokapatriots.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/what-are-your-visions-of-sugar-plums/#comment-22176

    jrCarolinas says:
    December 19, 2011 at 6:56 pm (Edit)
    Kind of late in the season to be telling everyone this

    Dr. Russell Blaylock Warns: Don’t Get the Flu Shot — It Promotes Alzheimer’s
    renowned neurosurgeon and editor of the Blaylock Wellness Report

    “The vaccine is completely worthless, and the government knows it,”

    http://www.newsmaxhealth.com/headline_health/flu_shot_Alzheimers/2011/12/18/423456.html

    • 94 heather December 19, 2011 at 5:48 pm

      Don’t forget barry gave the irs this power a yr or so ago–he also allowed 18k more agents to be hired and alloted rifles to them as well!

      They won’t let us simplify the tax code or go to a flat tax or a fair tax–are you kidding me–the irs and the govt would lose total control of all of us.

      The irs and the tax code is their way of controlling how we live, and how much they can steal from us.

  28. 95 Troy December 19, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Stunning! GOP poll reveals Iowa distrusts 1 candidate
    8 months after document released, large numbers still have questions
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: December 19, 2011
    7:54 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WND

    A Public Policy Polling report has stirred the GOP primary race in Iowa, showing Newt Gingrich’s support imploding and Ron Paul in the lead.

    But buried in the survey of likely Iowa Republican voters is the stunning conclusion that more than half either don’t believe Barack Obama or aren’t sure he’s telling the truth about his eligibility to be president.

    The poll indicated that 31 percent do not believe Obama was born in the United States – an indication of their disbelief about his eligibility to be president.

    Freshly updated! Find out what Obama’s story truly is, in “Where’s the REAL Birth Certificate?” by Jerome Corsi. Or join in the billboard campaign that seeks the answer to “Where’s the Real Birth Certificate?”

    Another 21 percent were not sure. Some 47 percent said they believe he was born in the United States. Some, however, argue that even that is not sufficient to establish that Obama is a “natural born citizen,” as the Constitution requires for presidents. The poll comes eight months after the White House released his “Certificate of Live Birth” as “proof positive” of his birth in Hawaii and, therefore, his eligibility.

    The Atlantic Wire, reporting on the poll, which was conducted by telephone over the weekend, noted the “tidbit” that “52 percent either said he was not or they’re not sure” without referencing the significance of such a finding.

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Stunning! GOP poll reveals Iowa distrusts 1 candidate http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=379233#ixzz1h2EeXjrj

  29. 97 Troy December 19, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Look at this rolly-polly fat bastard…Looks just like his little, stumpy old man.

    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/210504.php

  30. 99 Troy December 19, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Dr. Kate, you may want to add an UPDATE to your current post.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dora says:
    December 19, 2011 at 6:16 pm (Edit)
    It now looks like that story about Holder and his connection to Oklahoma City is more disinformation:

    http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/sipsey-street-irregulars-gets-to-the-bottom-of-it/

  31. 103 Troy December 19, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Say goodbye to ‘WorldNetDaily’ on Jan. 1, 2012
    All-new look, all-new attitude coming New Year’s Day
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: December 19, 2011
    8:45 pm Eastern

    © 2011 WND

    WASHINGTON – After nearly 15 years, the oldest name in independent news on the Internet is being retired.

    Come New Year’s Day 2012, “America’s Independent News Network” is getting a new name, a new look and a whole new attitude as WND replaces the familiar WorldNetDaily logo.

    “We don’t want to shock our audience, so we’re letting everyone know what’s coming,” explains Joseph Farah, editor, co-founder and chief executive officer of the first independent online news agency begun in 1997. “What we’re launching the first of the year is so radically different in design from what we have been for the last 15 years, we think it’s important to give everyone a head’s-up. It’s going to be fresh, contemporary, cutting edge, more video, with easier navigation and expanded coverage.”

    There will even be a new name – a new corporate identity.

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Say goodbye to ‘WorldNetDaily’ on Jan. 1, 2012 http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=379025#ixzz1h2NA3s5j

  32. 104 Troy December 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Hmmm….This is the first time that I have heard of this.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    12/19/2011 — Sheilaaliens covering the “strange sickness” spreading around the world

    http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/12192011-sheilaaliens-covering-the-strange-sickness-spreading-around-the-world/

  33. 105 jane December 19, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    OT; but interesting……I have a VILE taste in my mouth…somewhat sulfuric……

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-capitol-christmas-tree-pays-homage-obama-not-jesus

  34. 109 Troy December 19, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Obama’s legacy of broken promises – in Kenya
    School in family village named after him remains unfunded despite pledge
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: December 19, 2011
    9:38 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2011 WND

    A school named for Barack Obama in Kenya has abandoned hope that the U.S. president will honor a pledge he made as senator to finance it, according to a report in Kenya commissioned by WND.

    The report further revealed that Obama’s step-grandmother, Sarah Hussein Obama, continues to live the modest rural life she lived before Obama became president, despite greater security provided by the Kenyan government.

    Today, Kogelo is a fenced-in rural village with 24-hour government-funded police surveillance that keeps press and visitors at bay, preventing direct access to the Obama family members there.

    A former Kenyan Parliament member with whom WND has worked confidentially since 2008 compiled the report. The research was assigned to trusted Kenyan professionals who conducted the field work and reported their findings in writing.

    Obama fails to fund school named after him

    According to the report, the Senator Obama Secondary School’s senior teacher, Dalmas Raloo, is at a loss to explain why Obama has failed to fund the school named after him, as promised.

    Raloo said Obama’s family in Kenya is mystified by what they are calling “Obama’s lapse.”

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Obama’s legacy of broken promises – in Kenya http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=379341#ixzz1h2px8HXy

    • 110 Quantum Leap December 19, 2011 at 11:06 pm

      Raloo said Obama’s family in Kenya is mystified by what they are calling “Obama’s lapse.”

      No need to be mystified. There is an easy explanation. HE’S A FREAKING SERIAL LIAR. Who even knows if that is his family. NO ONE REALLY KNOWS. Lies just lies.

  35. 111 Troy December 19, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Democrat firm advising Obama’s communist Kenyan pal
    Raila Odinga running for president 4 years after supporters sparked deadly riots
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: December 19, 2011
    8:08 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2011 WND

    Kenyan Prime Minister Raila Odinga – who Barack Obama helped place in office in a power-sharing agreement in 2008 after supporters of Odinga’s losing presidential campaign sparked deadly rioting – has hired a Washington, D.C.-based, Democratic Party-oriented consulting firm in another bid for the East African nation’s presidency, according to WND sources.

    Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, or GQR, has been in Kenya since March working for Odinga, according to a Kenyan political operative who has asked not to be identified for security purposes.

    Read more: Democrat firm advising Obama’s communist Kenyan pal http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=377429#ixzz1h2rC6COL

  36. 112 Troy December 19, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    The New and Improved Birther Movement 2008-2012

    COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT NEW HAMPSHIRE’S SUPREME COURT ELIGIBILITY COMPLAINT

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/12/19/the-new-and-improved-birther-movement-2008-2012/

    • 113 deafy2 December 20, 2011 at 12:55 am

      I think this is a good route to go …

      as least, just to get Obama out of office, and right after that, fire up things against the RINOs who refused to do anything about it, to put them to shame and out of office, too …
      This will leave the Democrat crooks, which can be dealt with by persecuting Pelosi for that certification fraud, etc

      This should break things up and start the recovery?

  37. 114 Troy December 19, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Of course it’ll be hacked by the GOP, because they cannot afford to allow Ron Paul to win the primary.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Iowa GOP worried by hacker threat to caucus vote

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IOWA_CAUCUSES_HACKING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-12-19-18-28-32

    • 115 Quantum Leap December 20, 2011 at 12:30 am

      How can they hack a caucus? It’s paper votes. The issue to consider is that RP’s votes go into the trash just like they did to Hillary. This is where caucus monitors come in. They need a bunch of them and security cops.

    • 117 drkate December 20, 2011 at 12:51 am

      This is a reality, and also imho a planned diversion…while GOP is looking at hackers, the infiltration will be in the caucuses and with the chosen leaders there.

  38. 118 Troy December 19, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    The idiots have done it again!
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    Alarm as Dutch lab creates highly contagious killer flu
    Fear of terrorism as university prepares to publish key details

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/alarm-as-dutch-lab-creates-highly-contagious-killer-flu-6279474.html

  39. 132 Troy December 20, 2011 at 1:09 am

    If it wasn’t for RP’s misunderstood stance on Iran he would definitely be our next president, but too many people have red, white and blue fever and feel like we should blast Iran into the stone age….I guess they forget about the millions of innocent people that were protesting in the streets of Iran against Imadinnerjacket…..Those people would all be blasted too.

    • 133 drkate December 20, 2011 at 2:02 pm

      Its not just that, it is genuine fear of being killed by those who would take advantage of us. Its not that people who fear Ron Paul’s foreign policy want to go bomb people, its genuine concern that HE is not that concerned about it and just simply bringing all the troops home from wherever they are without a plan and with some transition time IS dangerous. So Paul needs to do a 150% better job to explain this. Its not red, white, and blue fever.

      • 135 Ann December 20, 2011 at 10:14 pm

        That’s so true! I see people posting on Facebook all the time about how crazy RP’s foreign policy is. Tried to educate them but they don’t seem to “get it”. I’m sure some don’t want to get it because they’ve already decided on another candidate and that’s not good. He needs to make some really good commercials that explain his position well.

    • 136 drkate December 20, 2011 at 2:09 pm

      On the other hand, the banksters plan to kill us all anyway…so if we’re going to get killed I’d rather it be under a legitimate, constitutional president! :razz

  40. 138 stopmar shalaw (@stuckntwit) December 20, 2011 at 3:19 am

    http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/19/why-conservatives-must-adopt-ron-pauls-foreign-policy/

    This is good article for those who say they like Ron Paul but can’t support his stand on foreign policy. I have only posted once before but I am a regular reader here and appreciate your comments and references. It angers me to see the sh^^t going on. I fear for my children and grandchild who is a baby, I am especially worried about my son who is handicapped and preciously innocent- unaware of these monsters and what they have planned in obamacare!

    • 139 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 11:37 am

      stopmar, I certainly share your concern for our children and grand-kids. It is a major motivating factor for me as well. Please comment more often as you obviously ‘get it’. Thanks for that link.

    • 140 drkate December 20, 2011 at 2:05 pm

      Thank you for this article. I will probably create a post around it as there are so many questions that could be answered!

    • 141 deafy2 December 20, 2011 at 2:24 pm

      my answer to stopmar (and to tenacity) …

      I like that article … it is correct about what it entails with the limited government and it does not change anything for me at all …
      The reason is simple … the ideals and cold hard reality of what is now … does not always match up …
      it is like the money wasted in that usurper’s stimulus … it will never be back to when it was, ever again … all the future will always carry that scar …
      Obama thinks we can just cut off oil and coal and everything is fine if we just switch over to the green energy “now” … it does not work that way …
      it is true for just about everything …
      if we do as what he advocates … do you think the rest of the world will just leave us alone?
      What about the fact that Islam teaches of a complete world conquest and they will not rest till it happens? Believe me … it is written already that they will do just that, in our scriptures …
      To be honest … I do not think we have more than a couple years left anyway … just compare what is going on with Iran and the rest of Arab world when it comes to Israel … it is coming together exactly as it was written over 2,000 years ago.
      It is critical we do get Obama out of there and remove the traitors from doing what they are, and get to repenting as a nation …
      Start with helping Israel above anything else … there is simply not much time left!

      • 142 drkate December 20, 2011 at 2:54 pm

        Very well stated, thank you.

        • 143 deafy2 December 20, 2011 at 3:08 pm

          I appreciate it … it is so hard … it is unbelievable how many times I have written and rewritten, only to not to send anything in … it is so frustrating sometimes … it tears me up!
          there is so much more I can say … but so many do not care, thinking they know it all …
          anyway … thanks again for that … it means a lot to me!

        • 144 sky December 20, 2011 at 3:18 pm

          Loose lips sink ships,Shock & AH in DC.

      • 145 Troy December 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm

        Bring home all of the troops as RP says and then use them to secure our borders, naval ports and airports…..Make this country virtually impossible for terrorist to penetrate…..Get a handle on all the terrorists that Bush and Obama have already let in…..Develop the strongest national home defense the world has ever seen, bolstered by a huge standing army (reinstate the draft and teach constitutionalism to the enlisted)…..Keep our noses the hell out of affairs of other countries (we wouldn’t tolerate another country meddling in our affairs) and if any other nation is dumb enough to attack our homeland, then shame on their asses….Blast them to kingdom come and make an example of them…..It’s time for globalism to take a backseat.

  41. 146 heather December 20, 2011 at 7:54 am

    IMO I think all potus and vp should have been in the military in combat–we would see more love and loyality to America. We would also know that they know what they are talking about in foreign affairs. They wouldn’t be so quick to throw our military in harms way, at the drop of a hat and leave them there for 10+ yrs. (though we all know that the nwo thugs are in charge)

    As far as RP opinion on foreign affairs, sorry, but I agree with him completely. We need to keep our noses out of their business and keep out borders secure here first. Of course the muslims hate us, look at the yrs and lives that we have taken from them. For all those that think 911 was an inside job, a false flag, then stand with RP on his foreign affairs agenda–I bet he thinks the same or he wouldn’t be so hell bent on his stance.

    And when ballots go in the trash consider this————-all absentee ballots from our military are trashed and an excuse is used that they weren’t received on time. That’s a bunch of crap—–and this is a direct slap in our military faces. All eyes need to be on these absentee ballots next yr and if they are trashed then we need to retrieve them asap–our troops votes for 2012 will be against barry.

    • 147 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 9:44 am

      Jimmy Carter was the captain of a nuclear submarine. Military service is not a good litmus test. Experience is important, but being a statesman is most important. When you look at a record of action, that is the telling tale. Having that known record of action allows for a responsible analysis. If one’s proven record shows they are a statesman, then they are qualified. This is precisely what disqualifies all but one of the top tier GOP candidates and the usurper alike. Let’s have a refresher on what a statesman is:
      To make the contrast visible, I offer the following differences between Statesmen and Politicians:*
      1. A Statesman loves the Constitution.
      A Politician hates the Constitution.
      2. A Statesman enforces the Constitution.
      A Politician violates the Constitution.
      3. A Statesman uses truth to keep power in the hands of the people.
      A Politician uses lies to gain power over the people.
      4. A Statesman’s primary concern is to secure freedom for future generations.
      A Politician’s primary concern is to get elected or re-elected.
      5. A Statesman will not play politics with the people’s money.
      A Politician will buy votes with tax money.
      6. A Statesman knows the people must control government.
      A Politician believes that government should control people.
      7. A Statesman knows the people must limit government’s power to tax.
      A Politician believes government should have unlimited power to tax.
      8. A Statesman gives his allegiance to the people and country.
      A Politician gives his allegiance to government.
      9. A Statesman will demand a balanced budget.
      A Politician will spend money stolen from future generations (deficit spending).
      10. A Statesman will cause peace.
      A Politician will cause wars.
      *M.J.’Red’ Beckman, “Walls in Our Minds” (1992), p.6-7.

      • 148 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 10:06 am

        When you look through that list of contrasts, consider the impact of supporting either the welfare state or the warfare state. Both support big government and increase debt, thus both serve the bankster agenda. Then notice that this factor impacts every item on the list of contrasts. Therefore, every candidate that supports the warfare state supports the bankster agenda, regardless of their conservative rhetoric.

        I challenge anyone to debate that syllogism.

        Let me go one step further. A candidate (e.g.: Trump) could attack the eligibility issue and still be a “Politician.”

        The litmus test: Are they a statesman? Do they have a proven track record establishing them as a statesman?

      • 149 Paula December 21, 2011 at 2:55 pm

        Excellent. I wish that we could help more Americans understand this.

  42. 150 Tiger 7 December 20, 2011 at 8:18 am

    I agree 100% that our pres., and possibly v. pres, should have served in the military. There are plenty politics in the military but the other experiences are a large plus. Like my Dad said, ” If you had to pick someone to determine and control your future, would you ever choose a professional politician??”.
    Military men, business men, engineers and doctors should be at the top of the list and lawyers should be totally excluded.
    Oh, and they should be verified American citizens who meet the requirements of the Constitution—for a change.

  43. 159 Quantum Leap December 20, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    The Newt world order

  44. 166 Quantum Leap December 20, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    He da man

  45. 167 Quantum Leap December 20, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    THE SLOW BOIL IS OCCURING AT JIM HOFF’S PLACE. THEY WANT NEWT OR ROMNEY :lol: They are getting their name calling RP info from MSM TeeVee. :lol: Fools. they got punked in 2008 and want a redo. :lol;

  46. 168 Troy December 20, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    These people make me sick…They’re actually crapping all over themselves….From the tone of this article I wouldn’t be surprised if they consider assassinating Ron Paul as an option if he wins the Iowa caucus.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Will Ron Paul kill the caucuses?

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70674.html

    • 169 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      Flack heaviest over the target. We knew this was coming and it is a good sign. I’m not a big Gandhi fan, but his quote is true, “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.” Well it appears we are in phase III (tipping point) of this endurance contest. The establishment is in denial that their gig is up. Dr. Paul is rising because the sleeping giant is waking up. What they really don’t realize is that a lot of independents are real Republicans that just got disgusted with the GOP establishment. Those independents finally found someone they trust as genuine. It’s all those “not one more dime” folks that stopped the flow of donations back in 2006. They are also the reason Ron Paul has done well with contributions. What will happen that puts the fear of God into the power brokers is that this means they are on a slippery slope without a rope. If the banksters lose control of either or both parties in spite of all their subversion and control platforms, people could start going to jail. This is not about the credibility of the Iowa caucuses. This would validate the caucus process, not hurt it. It’s totally about the elite being exposed.

      Yes, Dr. Paul must watch his six. Look at how so many have been taken out by the cabal. They are a blood thirsty lot and have no conscience about collateral damage. The ‘fight phase’ will include threats. When They* took out Perot’s staff, Their* threat to his family was effective. When Reagan didn’t do as he was told, They* nearly took him out and God knows what else he was threatened with. The Kennedys paid a dear price. The People must make it clear that we are onto Them* and will not tolerate any further false flags or duress.

  47. 171 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    It’s time we start talking about the infiltrations into the alternative media and other propaganda sources. For example, Newsmax, Conservative Byte and other online fronts have become totally obvious about their prejudice and misinformation campaigns. Many are aware of Time magazine being an Illuminati rag, but we must call out as much of this as we know of so that others will wake up to it.

    • 172 drkate December 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm

      Newsmax just claimed tea party supports gingrich…and I haven’t heard anything different elsewhere, but if the Tea Party got on the Ron Paul wagon it would be devastating for the establishment republicans. I took Conservative Monster off my rss list…

      do you think the establishment repubs would begin to work for democrats openly, and trash their own campaigns?

      • 173 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm

        Ron Paul started the Tea Party back in ’07 and the original true Tea Partiers (I believe) are still with him. It’s the infiltrators that are going for the RINOs.

        No, there may be some limited democrat support in local races, but what you will see is 3rd party action, like Trump or someone jumping in like Palin. If she jumps in and gets support from GOP establishment, it will tell me that she has sold out. Her endorsements thus far have been horrid and the lack of endorsements for statesmen are equally telling. I’d like to credit it toward her lack of experience and naivete, but she’s been in the game long enough now to know better. They* will covertly throw money at a democrat. They* will also restrict flow of money within the party. I saw that happen in the Colorado governor’s race last year. Look at what happened in the last Alaskan senatorial race.

      • 177 heather December 20, 2011 at 9:42 pm

        I don’t believe that article–distractions, and propaganda is all they can throw at us. Once again the media is trying to control our choice and this time I refuse to listen to anything any of them are saying.

        Yes, I do this the republicans would work for the dems. They’re all in bed together, after all they are free to do inside trading, lie to us, promise the world and not deliver and constantly blame each other — DC is nothing but a drama dream.

        Vote them all out only allow them all 1 term no matter who runs!

  48. 178 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    The only reason I continue to receive Newsmax alerts is to watch the disinformation and keep up with what They* are up to…not by what Newsmax reports but by what They* make up and think people will swallow. The backlash to these sites is growing. The comments under B.S. stories are getting more resistant all the time. People are waking up and not buying the lies. They* are beating on an anvil and it will soon land on Their* head. Now if we can just get some folks to recognize their need for Yshua and repentance, we just might turn this thing around.

  49. 179 Troy December 20, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Romneycare faces financial meltdown
    ‘At some point you run out of other people’s money to spend on your promises’
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: December 20, 2011
    6:42 pm Eastern

    Michael Carl
    © 2011 WND

    According to several insurance and public-policy analysts, Massachusetts’ much heralded health-insurance reform plan, labeled “Romneycare” by its critics, is facing a potential financial crisis and may have to be scaled back.

    A senior analyst at a Virginia-based think tank that has monitored Massachusetts’ health care system says that Gov. Deval Patrick will have to take the budget-cutting axe to the program because of a major stress on the state health-care system.

    Read more: Romneycare faces financial meltdown http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=379485#ixzz1h7xgdsg2

  50. 180 PharmD December 20, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    I’m sure I’m late to the party, but there are two bills going around in Congress that need your attention. SOPA and PIPA.

    They are the Stop Online Piracy Act and Protect IP Act.

    Long story short, they mean the government can block your access to websites by denying their DNS entries unless you know the IP addresses of the website. Honestly, it won’t stop the people that the bill is actually designed to stop. I’m web savvy enough to find the IP address of the places I go, and I’m not looking to pirate stuff online.

    For more information, check out this site:

    http://gizmodo.com/5869805/dont-break-the-internet

    I don’t normally advocate on here (unless it involves medication use) but this is something I feel strongly about. You wouldn’t think that Dr. Kate’s site could be targeted by this, but you’ve all linked YouTube videos. That’s enough for her to get shut down. Really. I know you were all worried about Net Neutrality, but this is something REAL to be worried about.

    Contact your senators and representatives and ask them to say no to these internet killing bills.

    • 181 drkate December 20, 2011 at 9:31 pm

      Thanks PharmD…eblasted to my contacts–while we still have time! :mad:

      OT What do you think of this new manufactured virus and its potential for release…and writing up the article….?

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16279365

      Article title says it all ‘terror’ over bird flu…is this to create terror? Or put an idea in people’s minds?

      • 182 PharmD December 21, 2011 at 7:53 am

        I’m of two minds on this story. I did some reading on it to give a better take on it.

        On the one hand, scientists altered the H5N1 virus to make a strain that can infect ferrets. I can understand this need, as we need an animal model to study the virus. Our drugs like Tamiflu will not be effective if the infected cells don’t present the right way. As an aside, this is the basic mechanism of Tamiflu. Essentially, infected cells get hijacked to produce virus particles instead of proteins. Tamiflu essentially locks the door behind the infected cells and prevents the newly made virus particles from escaping and infecting OTHER cells. In truth, it doesn’t stop the production of virus particles, but it does prevent the SPREAD of them within your body.

        So back to the study. If our current drugs can’t stop this virus, then it becomes a pretty serious issue. The flu rarely kills young, healthy adults. It tends to kill the young or elderly due to their relatively weaker immune systems. Until the universal flu vaccine comes out (which will hopefully provide protection against ALL strains of flu), we need something to fight more virulent strains, and studying it in birds is not the best way to do that.

        On the OTHER hand, this virus was literally created in a lab. I know we need to study it, but I’m not keen on giving mother nature a hand when it comes to mutating viruses to infect people. I get it. The flu is highly contagious and will spread if given time to mutate. Virus particles are made very quickly, and it only takes a few base pairs of DNA to make variants that can infect ferrets instead of birds. Viral DNA polymerase tends to be ‘sloppy’ for that very reason. It purposefully makes more mistakes than human DNA polymerase so it can be more mutagenic. That’s a benefit to it.

        As for should we censor it? Honestly, I don’t think it’ll matter. If the wrong people want to find the information, they will. Information is never hard to get if you know where to look. Sure, censoring anything will stop MOST people, but it won’t stop ALL people, especially the kinds of people you want to prevent from getting it. Anyone determined enough will find that which they seek.

  51. 185 Tenacity December 20, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Speaking of idiots, I laughed out loud when I saw this:
    Axelrod: Republicans Screwing Up The Economy To Hurt The President
    Axelrod told Fox News

    You have to wonder whether some folks over there think somehow — think screwing up the economy, throwing a wrench in the works is a good political strategy for them,” Axelrod told Fox News. “Somehow if they can slow the recovery down, if they can cost a half million or delay a half million jobs, that that will hurt the president.

    I didn’t even think Axelrod could be that stupid. I had actually given him credit for being a smart communist. I was wrong.

    • 186 drkate December 20, 2011 at 9:36 pm

      I think this is Axledud giving hints to democrats as to what to say to republican efforts on the budget…while they are all playing games, this is a dumb enough line to be picked up by Pelousy and Reed and used…it is also a prelude to the use of the race card. The question I have, is unemployment in the black community worse than 4 years ago? Or is it still hidden with the so called ‘recovery efforts’ spreading the wealth around?

  52. 187 Troy December 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Ron Paul Campaigns in New Hampshire

    Washington, DC
    Monday, December 19, 2011

    GOP Presidential Candidate Rep. Ron Paul holds a town hall meeting & food drive in Manchester, NH. A new poll released last night shows Rep. Paul in the lead for the nomination in Iowa. The Iowa Caucus is January 3rd and the first GOP primary in New Hampshire is set for January 10th.

    Town Hall video here: http://www.c-span.org/Events/Ron-Paul-Campaigns-in-New-Hampshire/10737426446/

  53. 189 heather December 20, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70674.html

    they just won’t stop——-leave Ron Paul alone and thank God for a man that stands for the people, the constitution and our country.

  54. 190 Ann December 20, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Ron Paul’s email…He calls it the TEA PARTY MONEY BOMB…

    My appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno was great – and my hope is it represents just one more vital bit of momentum in our winning campaign.

    But as important as that was, if you haven’t yet contributed to my Tea Party Money Bomb, I hope I can count on you to do so IMMEDIATELY.

    You see, I’m back to virtually non-stop campaigning, because these next two weeks could end up deciding everything.

    Many voters have yet to make up their mind, and they’re taking one last serious look at ALL the candidates.

    That’s why I must be able to contact voters with my winning message of liberty, limited government, free markets, and sound money during this critical time.

    The good news is, thanks to the success of this Tea Party Money Bomb, which has raised over $3.7 million, I’ll have a fighting chance these next two weeks.

    But $4 million is where I’d like to be to WIN.

    We’re so close. If you haven’t yet given, won’t you agree to do so IMMEDIATELY?

    If you have, can I count on you to do a little extra to help push us over the top?

    If you simply cannot give another dime, can I count on you to contact your friends and family and urge them to give?

    I truly believe you and I have a chance to shock the national media and the Washington, D.C. establishment that was so intent on writing off my campaign for months.

    But I’m counting on you to make all this possible.

    So please act at once to help push us over $4 million. I’m counting on your action.

    For Liberty,

    Ron Paul

    P.S. This is the most critical time for my campaign.

    If you haven’t yet given, won’t you agree to do so IMMEDIATELY?

    If you have, can I count on you to do a little extra to help push us over the top?

    If you simply, can’t give another dime, can I count on you to contact your friends and family and urge them to give?

  55. 192 Troy December 20, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Take the survey….You may be surprised.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/fullpage?id=15177995

    My poll results:
    1) R Paul :D
    2) M Bachman :)
    3) J Huntsman :shock:

  56. 198 Troy December 21, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Well, it’s happening!….It’s only the very beginning and it’s going to get much, much worse…..Soon, you can add tumbleweed to the dust and cobwebs that was once your money / account.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I’m Calling for a General Financial Market Strike
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt – December 20, AD 2011 9:10 PM MST

    A couple of things have happened regarding the MF Global mess that I don’t think got the attention they should have because they broke over the weekend. So let me fill you all in.

    First, all notions of personal property rights were essentially destroyed when the MF Global “trustee” began seizing customers’ gold and silver bullion held in storage if that bullion was purchased through contracts brokered by MF Global. In case you’re not following, let me restate. MF Global customers who traded in precious metals and actually took delivery and OWNED bullion, as in outright, free and clear OWNERSHIP, complete with a warehouse receipt (aka title) with SERIAL NUMBERS designating exactly which physical bars they OWNED, and were PAYING RENT to STORE their own property in a “secure” VAULT, complete with statements indicating that these storage fees were paid in full, are having THEIR PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN AND ARE PAYING RENT TO STORE CONFISCATED by the MF Global trustee in order to feed the gaping maw that is the MF Global “estate”.

    read more here: http://barnhardt.biz/

    • 199 heather December 21, 2011 at 10:15 am

      Never, never by gold or any precious metal with a certificate. It can be traced. Buy only coins that are untraceable. Keep them in your ‘space’ not in any bank vault. Keep nothing in a safety deposit box. These items can be bought through a reputable store/dealer with no paperwork and no tax.

  57. 201 Tenacity December 21, 2011 at 1:18 am

    I am posting this for those that care to hear what Fulford is now saying. I have no idea if any of this is legit. I wish Fulford didn’t require a registration at his own blog to read the full article because I can’t stand the ungodly delusional comments at the linked site. Don’t bother to read the 2 paragraphs preceding the Fulford post. Fulford is one interesting character. It’s like reading a fictional mystery novel, only it may be real…only time will tell. If anybody figures out a way to substantiate any of this stuff, please let me know. It is at least quite entertaining.

    Benjamin Fulford 12-20-11… “Kim Jong Il murdered as part of major Asian power battle”

    http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/benjamin-fulford-12-20-11-kim-jong-il-murdered-as-part-of-major-asian-power-battle/

  58. 203 jane December 21, 2011 at 1:47 am

    how many of you are cashing out bank accounts and investments?
    Not sure exactly what to do at this point….

    • 204 Troy December 21, 2011 at 2:01 am

      Take the 10% hit and get out while you can….Convert soon to be worthless dollar bills into gold and silver coins….Don’t buy mint condition coins….Buy the ugliest, dingiest coins that you can find….They cost less and weigh the same amount….Weight is all that will matter very soon….Use silver coins for day to day purchases and gold coins as bulk wealth storage…..If you try to spend gold coins people will not be able to make change easily…..Silver coins can be spent much easier.

  59. 205 jane December 21, 2011 at 3:55 am

    thanks Troy!

    I don’t have an IRA or 401K…majority is a diversified account through an investment company…and I have one small money market account.

    • 208 Quantum Leap December 21, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      Does Dr Orly Taitz know about this? She needs to know. Can someone alert her?

      William M. Gardner
      Secretary of State

      July 19, 2011

      TO:
      Abdul K. Hassan, Esq.
      215-28 Hillside Ave, Queens Village, NY 11427
      —————————————-
      Please note the wording by statute in both these forms: “No person except a natural born citizen …”

      The New Hampshire state legislature amended the statutes to include the above wording on the declaration forms for candidates for President. Therefore, this office will not accept a filing from any person who is not a natural born citizen.

      Sincerely,

      /s/ Karen Ladd
      Assistant Secretary of State

      ——————————-
      Just 4 months before the Ballot Law Commission hearing on November 18, 2011, a candidate was refused admission on the ballot FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON AS PRESENTED IN TAITZ’ COMPLAINT TO THE Ballot Law Commission – Obama is NOT a ‘natural born Citizen!

      Ms. Karen Ladd should be brought up on charges along with the entire Ballot Law Commission … and the Secretary of State, William M. Gardner.

  60. 212 eddie h. December 21, 2011 at 10:50 am

    please sign the petition and send to all on address books to sign and have
    them do the same .
    i stand with sheriff joe arpaio and the rule of law . we are striving for a million signatures . obama and holder have initiated a witch hunt against the sheriff in hopes of stopping his report on the forged birth certificate and the fake ssn . as well as an investigation into obama’s entire back ground . thank you .

  61. 219 Quantum Leap December 21, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Pray for Dr Ron Paul at least until the IA caucus.

    • 222 drkate December 22, 2011 at 11:49 am

      Now this requires additional research, rather than parroting what the LSM would like you to believe about Ron Paul. These were not authored by him-, not paid for by him, and not endorsed by him-and he has taken responsibility for not paying more attention…do you think this is as serious as ripping the American people off? Or Obama’s lack of eligibility, hidden muslim faith, hidden gayness, hidden everything? This is where your judgement as an individual is necessary to discern fact from fiction.

      • 223 Jan December 22, 2011 at 4:19 pm

        I totally agree, Dr. K, what human over the course of their life has not done something they wished they could take back.
        According to what Dr. Paul has said, he did not write it, did not approve it, has denounced it, what more can he say.
        If these snippits out of some newsletter are all the dirt they can find on Dr. P, have at it.
        I’d compare his past to any of those that are or have been in our Congress/Senate and these creeps are grasping at straws.
        I’ll bet I could go through all of your posts and pick a sentence or paragraph, put it in another post and create havoc as you could with mine.
        Look at their lives, the way they have voted. RP has a fantastic Constitutional voting record. Maybe we don’t understand why he voted against something that “sounded good”, just look at the Constitution and know why he voted the way he did.

    • 230 drkate December 22, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      Excellent Read

      Comparing the old republicans with the new:

      Just as Ron Paul has consistently opposed free-trade deals and schemes to enrich government contractors, the elder Buffett railed against the crony capitalism of his day. “There are businesses that are being enriched by national defense spending and foreign handouts,” Buffett warned in 1948. “These firms, because of the money they can spend on propaganda, may be the most dangerous of all. If the Marshall Plan meant $100 million worth of profitable business for your firm, wouldn’t you Invest a few thousands or so to successfully propagandize for the Marshall Plan? And if you were a foreign government, getting billions, perhaps you could persuade your prospective suppliers here to lend a hand in putting that deal through Congress.”

  62. 231 deafy2 December 22, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    About isolating ourselves … here is a good article … it says pretty much what I mentioned earlier and does it a lot better

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43419#When:10:55:42Z


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