Article II Superpac Challenges Commission on Presidential Debates

©2012 drkate

In another bold move, the Article II Superpac challenged the Commission on Presidential Debates to live up to their charter and set forth their criteria for determining whether a presidential candidate is a natural born citizen.  Quietly working behind the scenes to place three full page ads in the Washington Times, and planning more critical advertisements at the Democrat National Convention in Charlotte next week, this is a powerful reminder to the Commission on Presidential Debates that one Barack Hussein Obama should not even be allowed to debate on the national stage, as he is not constitutionally eligible for the job.

Do we expect the CPD to do anything?  No.  But it is one more nail in the coffin where those who are anti-American and anti-Constitution are exposed for the public to really see.  We have seen Congress fail to vet Obama and wipe clean the Congressional Record through the Congressional Research Service; we’ve seen the judiciary time and time again refuse to follow the law, and we’ve seen the media turn into high-pitched desperate shillers for the penultimate failure known as Barack Obama.  Apparently the Supreme Court doesn’t have the intellectual capacity to deal with Obama’s usurpation of the Presidency.

Head on over to the Article II Superpac site…please take the survey/petition and if you can, donate $1 to the effort at the address listed on the site!

The Superpac is not done.  Key media buys will be made in the certain-swing states of Ohio, Florida and Virginia in the fall campaign to inform as many people as possible–including the electors–of the Constitutional crisis facing our Nation in form of Obama.  Send Obama and the wookie packing!!!

Article II Super PAC, Letter to Commission on Presidential Debates, 8-30-2012

RE: Commission on Presidential Debates: 2012 Nonpartisan Selection Criteria

Dear Mr. Fahrenkopf and Mr. McCurry:

As advocates for the Framers’ original intent, establishing in Article II, Section 1 that every President must be a “natural born Citizen,” the Article II Super PAC wishes to extend our sincere thanks to the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) for the proper priority you place on the faithful observation of this national security provision of the Constitution by citing it in the first of your 2012 Nonpartisan Selection Criteria.

It has come to our attention that CPD may not recognize or apply any specific definition for “natural born Citizen” in the process of qualifying candidates’ satisfaction of Presidential eligibility. If this is in error, we would appreciate any information on how you qualify Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates’ eligibility as natural born Citizens.

We are deeply concerned with the efficacy of our electoral process in general since we learned in recent years that no known state or federal government office, nor any agency or elected official makes any effort to authenticate Presidential or Vice Presidential candidates’ constitutional eligibility prior to their name appearing on the ballot. Instead, we are genuinely alarmed to find that stewardship of this keystone of our national security is deferred to the same biased, unelected and unaccountable political parties which advance their respective nominees. Furthermore, no official examination to substantiate any party’s claims of their candidate’s eligibility is ever conducted or even sought. For example, it is the FBI’s position that they do not presume to contravene the will of voters, so no background checks are conducted on candidates for any office.

As you are aware, a simple majority vote cannot overturn Constitutional requirements.

This utter failure of ballot security and blatant voter disenfranchisement, still unknown to most of the US electorate, represents a profound breach of public trust. Questions raised by the electorate in the 2008 presidential election cycle as to candidates’ true legal identity have exposed a lethal vulnerability in the Constitutional integrity of the Presidential election process. These unanswered questions remain an issue in the ongoing 2012 election cycle and must be addressed immediately.

Citizens pay for elections with their taxes and rely on elected officials, the media, and non-profit entities such as CPD to ensure the integrity of our election process. Voters harbor a very reasonable expectation that the true legal identity of all candidates be authenticated, that candidates are eligible for the office they seek, and that the elections, and the debates which precede and shape them, are incontrovertibly legitimate. In 2008, the media completely failed to meet its obligation in this process and, as we have already stated, our elected officials do not seem willing to accept the responsibility.

CPD performs a key leadership role as organizers of the Presidential debates and has a unique opportunity now to help mend this rift in our social fabric. Consequently, CPD’s working definition of “natural born Citizen” plays a central role in this unprecedented controversy.

Obviously, Presidential debates are, and have always been, an integral part of the election process. Because these iconic events have fallen under the direct control of the CPD since 1988, we urge you to take very seriously the ethical obligation established by your charter, your mission statement, and your candidate selection criteria to assertively act in the public interest to ensure that all Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates are constitutionally eligible for office.

Toward that end, please be aware that, at this time, surveys consistently show that at least one-third of American voters either are suspicious of or completely reject representations of Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the office of President. A considerably smaller number question whether or not Mitt Romney’s parents were US citizens when he was born, partly because his father was born in Mexico. That concern merits equal examination and resolution.

The point is that the issue of presidential constitutional eligibility persistently plagues the electoral process and aggravates the relationship between taxpayers/voters and their representative government.

Supreme Court precedent, recorded in Minor v. Happersett, recognizes a natural born Citizen as one who is “born in a country of parents who were its citizens.” This definition is a logical extension of the progressively restrictive citizenship requirements for House Representatives (seven years) and Senators (nine years). It is also the definition most in keeping with the underlying intent of the Framers to avoid, to the greatest possible extent within a free society, the insinuation of any foreign influence on the power vested in the Oval Office.

The idea that “citizen” and “natural born Citizen” are equivalent in status completely ignores the fact that the Constitution itself distinguishes between these two citizenship classes in the same paragraph of Article II Section 1 that establishes Presidential eligibility qualifications. It is important to bear in mind that the Constitution has never been amended to eliminate this distinction, and that the Fourteenth Amendment does not address natural born citizenship at all. (For more information, see: http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html)

Some suggest that any “anchor baby” is a natural born Citizen, regardless of citizenship status of the child’s parents. However, Article II Super PAC absolutely rejects that any such interpretation could be reconciled with the Framers’ original intent. The Founding Fathers intended that a person who would be President after the founding generation had passed must be born with unity of citizenship and sole allegiance at birth. The President must have sole allegiance to the United States and natural born citizen status is the Constitution’s primary tool to secure that objective.

To say that every child born in America is a natural born Citizen is also to say that any foreign citizen whose child was born in the US could be allowed to raise that child abroad as an enemy of the US and return that child to this country in time to meet the Constitution’s 14-year residency requirement for President. By that reasoning, world class terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki, born in Las Cruces, NM to Yemeni parents, but raised and trained in the culture of Al Qaida, should have been eligible as a natural born Citizen at some point, assuming only that his tactics had remained law-abiding.

The assertion that mere place of birth or length of residency establishes natural born Citizen status flies in the face of repeated attempts over decades by numerous members of Congress – all failed – to modify the definition of “natural-born Citizen” to that very effect, or to abolish the requirement entirely. However, most recently, non-binding Senate Resolution 511, dated April 30, 2008 and ironically co-sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama, recognizes Sen. John McCain as a natural born Citizen, partly on the basis that he “was born to American citizens” (plural) which would seem to contradict Obama’s claim to eligibility.

Despite his full knowledge of and participation in this controversy, and his avowed credentials as a Constitutional law professor, Barack Obama has never publicly claimed to be a “natural born Citizen” of the United States. His eligibility has appropriately remained in question since he admits that he was born with dual citizenship by virtue of the fact that his father’s citizenship was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948. In addition, various corroborating evidence indicates that Obama may have become a citizen of Indonesia as a youth.

His repeated denials and ridicule for those who question his constitutional eligibility notwithstanding, Mr. Obama’s birthplace remains unknown since the “documentation” offered to authenticate his birthplace has been determined to be an outright forgery by the only duly-elected law enforcement officer in America who has ever conducted an official investigation into the matter, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, of Maricopa County, Arizona. Rather than an official certification, it is believed to be an electronic composite of selected data from his birth records and possibly from other sources. Sheriff Arpaio has pointedly asked Congress to investigate.

In summary, we ask that the CPD clarify its official position on this national security issue and explain how the CPD qualifies Presidential candidates’ constitutional eligibility as natural born Citizens of the United States.

We look forward to the opportunity to share your response with our membership and associated organizations.

Respectfully,
Helen Tansey, Executive Director
Article II Super PAC

Article II Super PAC Letter to Commission on Presidential Debates 8-30-2012

139 Responses to “Article II Superpac Challenges Commission on Presidential Debates”


  1. 2 drkate September 1, 2012 at 8:43 am

    Make my day, Obama…

  2. 4 usapatriots-shout September 1, 2012 at 11:05 am

    Thanks to Clint Eastwood, the “You didn’t build that” empty suit has just won a new name for himself—“THE EMPTY CHAIR,” he so quickly claimed was his after he either saw or heard Eastwood’s speech at the RNC.

    “THAT CHAIR IS MINE” he shouted to the press. Since Clint had only an empty chair as a prop with him on stage, the narcissist could only have been referring to Mr Eastwood’s EMPTY CHAIR and not the presidential chair the press pictured. This may be prophetic. Let’s hand Barry the empty chair used by Mr Eastwood on stage Nov.6, 2012.

  3. 5 Jan Rogers September 1, 2012 at 11:37 am

    If nothing else, the word is being spread. Not sure if it will matter but people are no longer remaining silent. If the Super PAC can raise enough money and keep the info front and center maybe it will help.
    In the meantime, pray for rain in NC at the DNC, sand statue of obat has to melt.
    http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/obama-dnc-erect-massive-dear-leader-sand-sculpture-at-site-of-convention/

    • 6 heather September 1, 2012 at 11:45 am

      HAHAHA sans statue of barry! OMG that must be a sight for sore eyes!! I will pray for rain for you! LOL—-and thats something they do in china and russia……someone send those commies packing–and this is too good to waste–we are sooooooooooo winning and the commies so hate it! lmao tooo funny. It’s our turn now and the table is turning in truth.

      • 7 drkate September 1, 2012 at 12:51 pm

        I’d take a pack of dogs peeing on the foundation of the statue… :razz: but rain will work too! Maybe the remnants of hurricane Isaac…

        It is perfect that it is made of sand, although a statue in the form of a house of cards would convey the same message…

  4. 9 foxyladi14 September 1, 2012 at 1:19 pm

    we could start a new fad spread this on your face book and every blog

    I’m Putting an empty chair on my lawn lol

    Bet you will start seeing more empty chairs on people’s front lawns
    instead of political signs. Who needs a sign when that empty chair says
    it all. :lol:

  5. 12 foxyladi14 September 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm

    What Clint did was to remind us.This is our country and politicians work for us and if they do not do their job then we let them go.
    This was brilliant.watch it again on you tube

  6. 14 usapatriots-shout September 1, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Jan Rogers

    It may be so that Obummer and Romeny are “exactly the same”. No way in hell are Ann Romney and the Wookie exactly the same.

  7. 18 ohiomary September 1, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/multimedia/image/obamasandjpg/

    He looks like a ventriloquist doll sitting on someone’s lap!

  8. 19 Quantum Leap September 1, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Quote from Dr Alan Keyes:

    “The same forces that put Obama in place have now engineered a choice in the 2012 election intended to force voters to side either with a socialist Democrat who wants to impose socialism on the nation or a socialist Republican who has already imposed socialism on his home state of Massachusetts. To say that voters who refuse to support either are somehow responsible for electing one or the other is like saying that people who refuse to submit to the demands of terrorists are somehow responsible for killing the people the terrorists subsequently murder. The guarantee of successful terrorism that results from that perverse logic places everyone’s life in greater danger. “

  9. 22 Quantum Leap September 1, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Yes and in repsonse to Jan post from ‘endofthe dream site’

    But I’m so mad they stole this from RP and many more didn’t want to support Liberty and Dr Paul. Let the bitterness creep into their lives as they find out that Romney = Obama.
    BUT read the first part of this read at the post above from Jan. It’s juicy.

    Republicans are being told that they have “no choice” but to vote for Romney because otherwise they will get another four years of Obama.

    This “lesser of two evils” theme comes out every four years. We are told that we “must” vote for a horrible candidate because the other guy is even worse.

    Well, millions of Americans are getting sick of this routine. Perhaps that is why it is being projected that as many as 90 million Americans of voting age will not vote this year.

    Yes, Barack Obama has been so horrible as president that it is hard to put it into words.

    But Mitt Romney would be just like Barack Obama.

    Those that are dreaming of a major change in direction if Romney is elected are going to be bitterly, bitterly disappointed.

    The following are 40 ways that Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are essentially the same candidate….

    1. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported TARP.

    2. Mitt Romney supported Barack Obama’s “economic stimulus” packages.

    3. Mitt Romney says that Barack Obama’s bailout of the auto industry was actually his idea.

    4. Neither candidate supports immediately balancing the federal budget.

    5. They both believe in big government and they both have a track record of being big spenders while in office.

    6. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both fully support the Federal Reserve.

    7. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney are both on record as saying that the president should not question the “independence” of the Federal Reserve.

    8. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both said that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke did a good job during the last financial crisis.

    9. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both felt that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke deserved to be renominated to a second term.

    10. Both candidates oppose a full audit of the Federal Reserve.

    11. Both candidates are on record as saying that U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has done a good job.

    12. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have both been big promoters of universal health care.

    13. Mitt Romney was the one who developed the plan that Obamacare was later based upon.

    14. Wall Street absolutely showers both candidates with campaign contributions.

    15. Neither candidate wants to eliminate the income tax or the IRS.

    16. Both candidates want to keep personal income tax rates at the exact same levels for the vast majority of Americans.

    17. Both candidates are “open” to the idea of imposing a Value Added Tax on the American people.

    18. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the TSA is doing a great job.

    19. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the NDAA.

    20. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both supported the renewal of the Patriot Act.

    21. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the federal government should be able to indefinitely detain American citizens that are considered to be terrorists.

    22. Both candidates believe that American citizens suspected of being terrorists can be killed by the president without a trial.

    23. Barack Obama has not closed Guantanamo Bay like he promised to do, and Mitt Romney actually wants to double the number of prisoners held there.

    24. Both candidates support the practice of “extraordinary rendition”.

    25. They both support the job-killing “free trade” agenda of the global elite.

    26. They both accuse each other of shipping jobs out of the country and both of them are right.

    27. Both candidates are extremely soft on illegal immigration.

    28. Neither candidate has any military experience. This is the first time that this has happened in a U.S. election since 1944.

    29. Both candidates earned a degree from Harvard University.

    30. They both believe in the theory of man-made global warming.

    31. Mitt Romney has said that he will support a “cap and trade” carbon tax scheme (like the one Barack Obama wants) as long as the entire globe goes along with it.

    32. Both candidates have a very long record of supporting strict gun control measures.

    33. Both candidates have been pro-abortion most of their careers. Mitt Romney’s “conversion” to the pro-life cause has been questioned by many. In fact, Mitt Romney has made millions on Bain Capital’s investment in a company called “Stericycle” that incinerates aborted babies collected from family planning clinics.

    34. Barack Obama and Mitt Romney both believe that the Boy Scout ban on openly gay troop leaders is wrong.

    35. They both believe that a “two state solution” will bring lasting peace between the Palestinians and Israel.

    36. Both candidates have a history of nominating extremely liberal judges.

    37. Like Barack Obama, Mitt Romney also plans to add “signing statements” to bills when he signs them into law.

    38. They both have a horrible record when it comes to job creation.

    39. Both candidates believe that the president has the power to take the country to war without getting the approval of the U.S. Congress.

    40. Both candidates plan to continue running up more government debt even though the U.S. government is already 16 trillion dollars in debt.

  10. 27 Warren September 1, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Breaking News : Sheriff Joe Arpaio cleared of all federal charges !

  11. 29 usapatriots-shout September 1, 2012 at 6:55 pm

    The Empty Chair’s Campaign Is a Sorry Arse

    If it is not a sorry arse campaign, then WHY . .
    Is Barry running out of money and stooping to begging for brides wedding gifts
    Is there a collection of nobody speakers scheduled for the DNC
    Giving away free tickets to hear Barry’s speech at bars
    Running only attack ads complete with lies against his opponents like claiming Romney is responsible for a cancer death,
    Avoiding discussion on Obamacare, Fast & Furious, all his failed green projects
    Isn’t he touting the capture and murder of Bin Ladin of which he stole credit
    Is the turnout at Sotoero’s ralleys so poor– embarrassingly low
    Is he refusing to give press conferences
    Editing the questions the press is permitted to ask him

    It reminds me a an old rock song I like: “Nuthin from nuthin gets nuthin. You gotta have something if you want to be with me.” This is precisely what the meaning of a silver plated turd is. It is a person clad in finery who is “nuthin” but a turd inside. It also is the best description of the Empty Chair’s past four year track record of “nuthin”.

  12. 30 Jan Rogers September 1, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Looks like there’s still a few “John Waynes” left in Hollywood

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/chuck-norris-dire-warning-for-america/

  13. 31 Quantum Leap September 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    From that 40 points story.

    I don’t think we have ever had two candidates for president that are so similar. Yes, there are a few minor differences between them, but the truth is that we are heading into Obama’s second term no matter which one of them gets elected. The mainstream media makes it sound like Obama and Romney are bitter ideological rivals but that is a giant lie.

    • 32 ngw September 2, 2012 at 4:27 pm

      I wonder how much the Rothschilds and JP Morgan are betting?obama one of their picks,goverment [rothschilds] bankers,corporations.The other pick isJP Morgans romney.THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LIBERTY

  14. 35 Ann September 1, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Hello all! I’m back and love seeing all the comments from all of you. I’m trying to get caught up after 2 and 1/2 months of being away. :) Glad to be back.

    • 37 Jan Rogers September 1, 2012 at 10:36 pm

      Heather, thanks for posting that. What a crying shame that only two in Congress are awake. Make that three with Ron Paul

      • 38 heather September 2, 2012 at 9:22 am

        I tend to believe they are all awake and aware of the corruption and criminal activities that exist in DC, but do nothing about it simply because they will loose their power and cash flow by the lobbiests and corporations.

        They all know that barry is not a NBC–how could they not? Of course they know–there is way to much proof and too many influential people have proven it. However now that we know for a FACT that the SCOTUS is in on this, it is like Clint Eastwood said, it’s time we let em go! Our constitution requires us to do so and pick our form of govt. Our republic did just fine until it was infiltrated via the darkness of night with communists and atheists and now with this usurper in the WH the yrs and yrs of corruption have been released for all of us to see.

        And I too am at fault for “trusting” my party and not being awake. BUT—if this never happened we would all still be asleep and numb to this coop that had yrs to build what they wanted regardless of what WE THE PEOPLE demanded.

        This may just be the TIME, where good things come out of bad things.

  15. 39 zekemae September 1, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    There are so many arguements about Romney that are true, indeed. But I promised myself to not fall for what we all did about Obama. I want proof about what is being said about him. Question ! He wasn’t my first choice, but at this point in time, he has my vote. God help us all.

    • 40 drkate September 1, 2012 at 10:08 pm

      It is very important, notwithstanding Romney’s connection to GHW Bush and a socialist, that Obama not be re-elected because it would ensure the destruction of Article II of the Constitution. We are a lot more aware and awake now even to know that Romney and the GOP are just the same as Obama and the DNC. With the exception that Romney is a NBC. That is important to me, and I have no doubt the next American revolution is coming and Romney will NOT have an easy time of it. A third party will win in 2016

  16. 42 Jan Rogers September 1, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    This is so disgusting and makes me cry

  17. 45 Tiger 7 September 2, 2012 at 5:17 am

    DrK—you are correct, a third party will evolve and be strong enough to carry the 2016 election. The TEA party effort will be the basis for much reform and, hopefully the minimization of the “brotherhood” that is controling now.

  18. 46 n0-nonsense-nancy September 2, 2012 at 6:36 am

    This is a good article by a minister asking, “Can a Christian vote for Romney?”

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Anghis/roger227.htm

    • 47 roseandpeony September 2, 2012 at 1:02 pm

      That is terrible commentary from that pastor!! You cannot serve 2 masters. Either the bible is true and the inspired word of God or it is not! Romney believes it is not!!! Satan is the author of lies and deceptions and uses false religions to lead people astray. So this *pastor* thinks God will use a tool of Satan to bring us a reconnection with the constitution and our liberty. Ya think God blesses nations that elect satanic tools of deception?? Really? God lets evil rulers direct nations to bring not blessings, but destruction. It is sad that so called Christian ministers are fully into the deceptions!

      When I think of Romney I think of the gospel of Matthew where people say to Jesus “didn’t we do WONDERFUL things in YOUR name, and Jesus answers, depart from me, I NEVER knew you.”

      There people were no just doing okay things, but wonderful things, for the Lord, they thought. But, they were not Christians at all and Jesus says get the hell out of here.

  19. 48 Jan Rogers September 2, 2012 at 9:46 am

    O/T but needs to go viral
    We are all paying for this. First audit results of “Audit the Fed” are now in and posted. Get your barf bucket.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2012/09/first-audit-in-the-federal-reserves-nearly-100-year-history-were-posted-today-the-results-are-startling-2449770.html

  20. 49 parker September 2, 2012 at 9:54 am

    Obama Concedes Defeat, Sort of, Mother-in-Law reports to friends that they are selling Chicago home, Buying Hawaiian Property

    UPDATE: Just found out that the asking price of the house they are looking at is most likely $35 million. Bobby Titcomb, the Hawaiian native who brings Obama “fish and poi” (that’s code for “weed and coke”) to the White House is most likely involved in the purchase of the estate on Oahu that the Obamas will most likely be moving into in January.
    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1976281/pg1

    I don’t care if it’s Godlike Productions, I loved reading this.

    • 50 parker September 2, 2012 at 10:33 am

      Here’s the entire post:
      The Obamas Already Preparing for Move to Hawaii in January 2013: Hyde Park neighbors talking about Chicago house being sold soon.

      Iolani Palace is no doubt where Barack and Michelle Obama would like to live, but it’s not available to them as it’s a museum now. Instead, the Obamas are using Chicago proxy-buyers to purchase a $35 million oceanfront estate for them in the most posh area of Oahu, where they coincidentally vacation frequently already. Move-in date is scheduled for January 2013 ]
      UPDATE: Just found out that the asking price of the house they are looking at is most likely $35 million. Bobby Titcomb, the Hawaiian native who brings Obama “fish and poi” (that’s code for “weed and coke”) to the White House is most likely involved in the purchase of the estate on Oahu that the Obamas will most likely be moving into in January. Possibly watching Titcomb’s movements will give more clues as to which house, exactly, Obama will move to in January 2013.

      UPDATE #2: Found it! Here’s the only property that matches all the clues we’ve been given.

      [link to http://www.honolulumagazine.com

      It is on the market for $35 million, which matches what Mrs. Robinson has been saying about the “$35 million house she’d be living in soon”. This estate was also featured on TV’s remake of Hawaii 5-O recently. Do you see how that’s a little in-joke that Obama would like…the “O” in the show’s name, like the “O” he’s used as his personal emblem since 2008? A man who named his dog BO, after his own initials, would love to own a house that was featured in an “O” show, like after his last name. This is a photo of the house as featured on TV and in Honolulu Magazine so you can see a little inside. The link above has more pics of the house that Barack Obama will soon be living in as an ex-president.

      —–

      Barack and Michelle Obama will be moving to Hawaii in January of 2013 and preparations are now being made to purchase an estate in close proximity to land owned by the University of Hawaii, where the Obama presidential library and “political center” will be located.

      Here in Chicago, it’s pretty obvious that Michelle does not want to move back to this city and its winters (for any reason) and Michelle’s mother, who’s been living in the White House with her daughter and her family, will be happily making the move to Hawaii as well.

      I have a friend whose family knows Michelle’s mother; they have been crystal clear that the elderly Mrs. Robinson regularly says that she’ll be in Hawaii next year permanently with her daughter and granddaughters. There is neither talk of returning to Chicago to live nor of living in the White House for another four years — instead, there’s a sense of “it was fun while it lasted” coming from Mrs. Robinson in her talks with her Chicago friends.
      Democrats are already working to locate an acceptable property in Hawaii for the Obamas to live; this land and its complex of buildings must be ready to move-into in January and must meet all the requirements the Secret Service demands since the Obamas will be granted continued protection, by law, for nine years after Barack leaves office. The Reagans, Clintons, and second Bush family all had their post-presidential homes purchased quietly on the side by friends when their times in office were coming to an end. The Obamas are doing the same thing now.

      Link to the $36 million property:
      http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/Real-Estate/July-2011/As-seen-on-Hawaii-Five-0-Fantastic-Kailua-estate/

      • 51 heather September 2, 2012 at 12:24 pm

        They don’t deserve this property–they should live in prison cells-all 5 of them since they ALL are part of this and BO the dog should be adopted out.

        So this is the lifestyle of corrupt criminals to repeat what they have continously done to us.

  21. 53 usapatriots-shout September 2, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    The Empty Chair’s Smooth Operators

    The Sotoeros, David Axelrod, David Plouffe, Vallerie Jarret, Robert Gibbs, Jay Carney, Pelsosi, Harry Reid, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and the rest of their nefarious ilk (named by me “Smooth Operators”) have been so accustomed to lying and seemingly gotten away with it for years, they have become jaded and lost touch with reality. They have no idea that people see them as the liars they are. They continue repeating themselves convinced America has bought their con. Like all liars they don’t understand the long term memory nor the courtesy of their listeners. How many times have you caught people in a lie and never called them on it because it would have been too rude, pointless or led into an undesired conflict? The Smooth Operators have under estimated the American people and are soon about to pay the price.
    For over four years Americans have been fed lies, excuses, political correctness, false flags, ridicule, and blatant avoidance on every issue of government policy by the Smooth Operators which affects every detail of our lives. They used their positions of power to ride rough shod over Americans who dared challenge them. They imagine they succeeded with their cover ups and deceit. They truly believe that because there seemed little at the time challengers could do about it, they won and fooled America. They snuck in their progressive, communist, socialist policies via stealth usurpation via superior planning, violating American law, corrupting the judicial system, dumbing down America, bribing/intimidating senators, congressmen, judges, main stream media and spending over one billion dollars to purchase the seat of the United States of America’s Presidency. Because it seems they got away with all their deception by keeping the illegal in office for four years, they think can do it again.

    Here is why they will lose.

    AMERICA HAS AWAKENED! Americans are brighter and sharper than the Smooth Operators understand. Americans have long memories and are aware of every lie, lame excuse, denial and avoidance the Smooth Operators have used. AMERICANS HATE CONSTANT LIARS, WHINERS, AND REFUSERS TO ADMIT RESPONSIBILITY TO THEIR ACTIONS. THEY ESPECIALLY HATE PEOPLE WHO BLAME AND ATTACK OTHERS FOR THEIR OWN INADEQUECIES. Forged birth certificates, looting America with a stimulus that failed while spending over $200,000,000 per day to vacation in India, Eric Holder’s flaunting he will not prosecute black criminals of white victims, Fast and Furious, Obama care—obtained by threat, intimidation and deceit—the Bin Ladin fiasco—claiming to have killed a man who has been dead for nearly eight years—prior. Sending troops to support rebellions in Egypt, Libya, Yemen and now Syria. America recognizes every lie. The dirty laundry never ends.

    The illegal alien the Smooth Operators are trying to promote, protect and con America for a second time has been exposed. All the king’s horses and all the king’s men will never make Barry a NBC nor even an American citizen.

    Since the only track record the Smooth Operators have is one of dirty tricks, false flags, intimidation, bribery and lies they are going to lose because they HAVE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY. Who listens or cares any more when . . .

    Any one of the pro Obumer group starts yelling “racist” (the word has now become counter productive because they have so over used it in so many inappropriate incidents.)

    Axelrod says “The GOP Convention was a terrible failure.”

    Obama slams the GOP Convention: “It was a rerun from the era of black and white TV.”

    Chris Mathews calls Paul Ryan a “Liar.”

    They tried to diss Eastwood as a senile old man

    Wasserman Schultz tries to demean Republicans by saying “Republicans put the priority of their convention over Isaac.”

    Van Jones called Romney a jerk.

    I could continue with this collection of stupidity for ever. It’s out there in abundance. Who cares what they say any more since we all know them for what they are and continue to be—power lusting liars and cheats.

    If these vile characters were not so jaded, they would realize that every time they make the stupid, malevolent statements of the nature they make, they are turning people against them and for the very people they are attempting to harm. The proof of this is in America’s disgust and rejection of Barack Hussein Obama. The proof of this is in all the anti Obama books, movies, billboards, law suits, t-shirts, bumper stickers, signs and angry bloggers with this arrogant, narcissist usurper and all who support him. The proof of this is in the poor turnout to his rallies, the having to give away free tickets in bars to beg people to attend his speech, and the polls which show Romney ahead.

  22. 56 foxyladi14 September 2, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    at Halloween we can put a dummy of Obama in the chair. :lol:

  23. 62 usapatriots-shout September 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    How delicious is this:

    The sand monument to Obama has been washed away due to torrential rains. IT ISN’T NICE TO FOOL MOTHER NATURE!

  24. 69 parker September 2, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    Report: U-Haul truck holding equipment for Biden event stolen
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/247137-report-u-haul-truck-with-equipment-for-biden-event-stolen

    It just keeps getting better and better…

  25. 71 parker September 2, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    this

    Obama speech to soldiers met with silence
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence/

    Our military know the truth.

    Obama Trying to Limit Military Voting Rights
    http://aclj.org/us-constitution/obama-trying-limit-military-voting-rights

    As the usurping fraud tries to disenfranchise them, yet give the right to vote to illegals.

  26. 76 Jan Rogers September 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    This pretty well says it all
    Should Christians Vote For The Lesser of Two Evils?
    “Pretend with me that you’re an old German on your deathbed today. Would you rather tell your grandchildren, ‘I voted for the Nazis because they seemed better than the Communists and no other party could win’? Wouldn’t you rather be able to rise up and say, ‘I publicly denounced the Nazis and the Communists? We were a minority – 1 or 2 percent – but we stood up for the truth and we were right! We proved not all Germans were mindless torchbearers for tyranny! We were ridiculed, we were beaten and jailed, but we saved this nation’s soul. Now children, go and live your lives in a way to make me proud’?” – Vin Suprynowicz

  27. 77 Jan Rogers September 2, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    Dang, just received this with no time attached, anyone know?

    Ron Paul is having a conference call tonight at 11PM Here is the number559-726-1200 and pin code 811476. He may start a third party.

  28. 78 Jan Rogers September 2, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    CALL IN NOW, WILL START IN MINUTES
    Also being recorded

  29. 84 Quantum Leap September 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Yeah Diebold is rigged for Romney. Barry has a plan to leave the WH come Jan. What a party that will be. One term in one lifetime is enough for one phoney family, as they fly away on airforce one, for the last time…just picture it…
    I’m voting only on my states vote. Forget these clowns.

    …this has over 10 million hits.

  30. 85 parker September 2, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    The issue is whether a candidate is a “natural born citizen,” which Romney is.

    Obama is not. Not only is he NOT, he supports jihadists, has allowed them to infiltrate our country, has put radical Muslims in the most sensitive and powerful positions in our government, is allowing our military to be infiltrated by foreign soldiers in preparation for a military coup – the coup of the government already under his belt.

    The next 10 weeks will be the most telling in our country…and we saw the highest court in this land turn on our Constitution – and on us.

    We are fighting the Devil himself and if you don’t know this by now, then you are a fool.

    THIS is what Obama has planned for you – DEATH. Death by assassination, hanging, starvation, or how about some good ol’ crucifixion?
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/shocking-video-evidence-of-islamic-crucifixion/

    If Ron Paul tries a third party, he – and anyone who supports such an act – is an enemy of me and my country…what’s left of it.

    • 86 Tenacity September 2, 2012 at 11:06 pm

      I listened in on a conference call tonight pushing Gary Johnson and urging people to persuade Dr. Paul to run as his V.P. so Johnson could cede the POTUS to him. There were over 1000 people on the call, many saying they would not – could not vote for Romney as the GOP have not followed their own rules, disenfranchised many delegates, cheated, and have made a mockery of the caucus/primary process. Everything they are saying is true, but we cannot leave the seditious ineligible usurping spy in our White House. Even knowing that Romney is a puppet of the Nazi banksters, I just don’t see that we have a choice if we want to survive.

      • 87 heather September 3, 2012 at 3:51 am

        Ten, I totally agree with you. Good to see you.

      • 88 Jan Rogers September 3, 2012 at 10:14 am

        Hi Ten, I listened to the call and feel the same way. If we want a third party we need to start now and build it so it is stronger than either of the other two parties at election time in 2016. (if we’re still here) The only way to stop obat is to have so many votes against him that even the machines can’t cheat.
        I think it is much more important to make sure we change the Senate and get rid of the “old school” in the Congress and then we can control the President.

        • 90 Tenacity September 3, 2012 at 11:32 am

          This may be telling. The very reason They* oscilate control back and forth between the parties is to prevent a third party from ever gaining momentum. A loss now by the GOP would provide that momentum, thus Romney is a shoe-in. They* need him to maintain the status quo and to facilitate the transition to a new global currency, resetting the clock on Their* new fiat and sealing the diminished fate of our middle class. If a new third party arises, it will meet the same fate as the Ron Paul campaign, barraged by the bankster controlled media. A better strategy may be to keep the heat on the GOP to restore sound money in individual select States and gear up to throw out all RINOs in 2014. The Mormons will not show up at caucus as they have in 2008 & 2012 and the liberty movement will gain great strides by building on its knowledge and control of key GOP positions. Your thoughts?

  31. 94 n0-nonsense-nancy September 3, 2012 at 5:17 am

    Ten, I agree with you. After the call I read a lot of comments from the daily Paul and people do not want Dr. Paul to be Johnson’s VP anyway. They would want it the other way around. Even though he hasn’t endorsed Romney I’m sure he would realize that voting for Johnson or writing his name in would only further the chances of Obama winning. And he wouldn’t want that.and he is not calling for a third party right now. I agree with Kate, I think we will see a viable 3rd party by 2016 but not now.

  32. 95 foxyladi14 September 3, 2012 at 9:28 am

    enjoy :)

  33. 96 foxyladi14 September 3, 2012 at 9:33 am

    oops wrong one try this one

  34. 99 usapatriots-shout September 3, 2012 at 10:43 am

    Yep! There is an empty chair proudly displayed on my front lawn!

  35. 100 usapatriots-shout September 3, 2012 at 10:44 am

    Today on Weaselzippers

    OBAMA: “Vote for me or “Romney Doesn’tcare”—Will replace Obamacare.”

    72% of America does not want Obamacare, has called, written and demonstrated to their Senators and Congressmen and the best Obama can come up with is a vote for Romney means we will lose Obamacare.

    THAT’S IT. I’M VOTING FOR ROMNEY!

  36. 104 usapatriots-shout September 3, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Last year about this time the Smooth Operators were trying to promote that the Empty Chair was unbeatable. That was the last idea that should be locked into the mind’s of Americans—especially all the Progressives, and Acorn members. So I wrote the following. With only 64 days counting from today to learn America’s future, I thought I would publish it again. If any one should agree with it, please feel to use it.

    OBAMA UNBEATABLE ? ? ? ? HA, HA, HA

    With the elections just around the corner, the illegal incumbent is getting ready to attempt to snooker America into making the same mistake twice. I wrote in a past commentary “Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.” This time America better make certain Steve Dunham is eligible before allowing him to run in any state.

    I sincerely hope, Obama will be indicted, arrested and tried. Nevertheless the Communist/Progressives are fighting violently to keep this fraud in office. They will commit any crime, tell any lie or spend any amount of money to perpetuate this fraud. They are already putting up the big bucks while Sotoero is already campaigning on your and my tax dollars.

    The blarney spinners are already attempting to mind fluck the American public with the idea Obama is so great he is unbeatable. The only people who think the bungler is unbeatable are the people being paid to spin the lie. The only way he got elected in 2008 was by cheating. Won’t America be so proud to keep a CHEATER IN THE WH. If any state lets him run again without strict and proper vetting—then, the only way he could win is by cheating. Honestly, the majority of Americans in all colors do not want 4-more Obama years. In spite of all the kings horses and all the kings’ men and all the stolen tax payer money to pay for his illegal campaign—HE WILL BE VERY BEATABLE!

    Read the polls—most people say they would vote for anybody but Oblabla. That means if a Donald Duck or Elmer Fudd ran, either one could get elected.

    Timing seemed to be on Barry Sotoero’s side in 2008 when little was known about him while people were upset with Bush over the Iraqwar. This time it is different. Though the forger in chief has still failed to produce all his documents at a $2,000,000 expense to the taxpayers, we now have a real clear insight to who and what Soebarkah is. It is real clear George Soros, NWO, the Rothchilds are using Barry in trying to take down America. Except for a few die hard Obama junkies—most of Americadoesn’t want to go where Obama wants to take us.

    Let’s take a look at Barry Sotoero aka Barack Hussein Obama’s unbeatable American leadership qualities, his long track record of failures, and the global destruction he has caused.

    Isn’t a lawless, arrogant, apologizing/bowing Marxist war mongering teleprompter only reader everything Americans want in a leader? Don’t Americans just love his race card baiting, denigrating any one who disagrees with him, dividing of America,100% jihad Muslims support, his support of murderers of innocent Americans like Nidal Hassan of Fort Hood, his support for a mosque at ground zero, plans for trials in New York for Sheik Mohamed Khalid, while LTC Terrence Lakin is court martialed for honoring his oath to protect the Constitution from within and with out.

    Isn’t America grateful for Michele Evita telling children what they can’t eat and what they must eat, making a war on McDonalds, changing the food pyramid while she stuffs her face with lobster, Kobe beef and pastries made by the 5 star WH chefs. My how Americans loved doting on Michele’s vacations in Spainwhere a large portion of the beach had to be shut down so she and daughter could dip in the ocean.

    While Americans have lost their jobs, homes, and their families the Pharaoh and his queen of the Nile spend $200,000,000 per day vacationing in Indiavisiting the Taj Mahal. Were not Americans impressed that no pharaoh, emperor, Shaw, king, prime minister nor leader of any country in all of history has traveled in that much lavish. We know the American tax payers were so glad to foot the bill. Of course Americans were so pleased that in the face of the highest national debt in all of America’s history, the President and the first lady showed no concern for the “sacrifice Americans had to make” to pay for all their UNNECESARY lavish trips.

    The people are especially proud most of the trillions of national debt were accumulated under Obama’s watch, the historical first black usurper. It was so easy for Barry to get the stimulus approved, then the bail outs, then the BILLIONS and Billions of aid sent to all the Middle East countries that are burning churches, synagogs while murdering Christians and Jews daily. America can’t wait to enjoy another four years of hardship so Palestine can get fat on pastries while America’s homeless increase, employment decreases, gas and food prices soar, the thousands of tornado, flood, and hurricane victims are still in need of assistance. Barry had no problem to send several million to Haiti.

    We the people love being told by Soebarkah to make sacrifices while he jets around on air force one at a cost of $181,757 per flight hour (not to mention the additional travel costs of Marine One, Secret Service, logistics and local police overtime), that’s a lot of frequent flier dollars going into Obama’s carbon footprint.

    Under the above-the-law-usurper, we so love watching the miscarriage of justice as one bought off judge after another threw out cases challenging Obama’s eligibility based upon standing and not merit. We truly appreciate our constitutional rights violated by having our bodies scanned and genitals groped at airports in the name of “security”. We feel our rights are so very well protected when witnessing the DOJ ignore our rights by refusing to investigate the Black Panther voter intimidation case.

    Wasn’t all of America really impressed seeing the smooth criminals operation of Obama, Pelosi, & Reid bribe, intimidate and lie to ram rod the worst alleged health care plan down the throat of America in spite of the millions of citizens who protested, spoke up at rallies, called, wrote, and faxed their political representatives. America looks forward to the continued high cost of the major effort it is taking to repeal this malevolent Plan. Yes, Hussein is so desirable, Americacould not bare being without him for another four years which is all it will takes to keep him in office for another 40 years.

    This regime hasn’t even got a clue. The one lesson I learned after the 2010 election is Soebarkah didn’t learn a thing. He simply made a little speech and has continued doing exactly as he was told to do by his freedom-destroying-constitution-shredding puppet masters. What non-hopey-changey platform are they going to use this campaign? “Obama hasn’t finished his work and needs another for years to destroy what little is left of Americaafter he so seriously devastated our country in just less than three years”

    No candidate is MORE BEATABLE THAN SOEBARKAH. If Mickey Mouse is the voting choice over Barack Insane Soetoro, America will vote for Mickey Mouse. WE know Mickey is a NATURAL BORN CTIZEN AND HAS ALWLAYS REMAINED A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT.
    ©2011 Therese Daniels

  37. 105 Rosemary Woodhouse September 3, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    I just saw a commercial w/ Bill Clinton supporting Obama. What a disgusting liar!

  38. 106 Tenacity September 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    I have no idea as to the validity of any of this and have been quite suspicious of all of these sources. That said, something is afoot and I throw these links out in search of verification if any can be had.

    hhttp://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1316095803ttp://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/nesara/news/news.php?q=1316095803

  39. 113 Jan Rogers September 3, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    Listen to the archived program with Walt Fitzpatrick

    Listen to archive – http://www.blogtalkradio.com/citizens-for-saving-america/2012/09/03/commander-walter-fitzpatricks-story

  40. 115 drkate September 3, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Good evening all…Monday night…I am finally back on line after moving my household. Still no phone service yet. Hope to catch up tomorrow! :smile:

    • 116 heather September 4, 2012 at 9:55 pm

      Hope it wasn’t a long move and all went well. Moving can be a nightmare unless you plan it right. I know some people who pack in plastic bags and can never find anything ever again! lol..

  41. 117 uguesswhat September 3, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    Vital Update: Arrests have started, and will escalate

    http://removingtheshackles.blogspot.ca/

    I’m holding my fingers crossed.

    • 118 heather September 4, 2012 at 8:41 pm

      He said that tornado watches were issued for DOver Delaware–never do they have those and I have family in southern NJ and my sister told me tonight that they had tornado watches right in her town today. There have never been tornadoes there-ever. Also they had severe storms all day today, massive rain with thunder and lightening. Very strange.

      Also Dover Delaware is a military base where they bring in all the military bodies….hmmm

  42. 119 n0-nonsense-nancy September 4, 2012 at 5:43 am

    The corrupt RNC had their vote result already on the teleprmpter! They decided before the convention how they were going to cheat Ron Paul.

  43. 120 usapatriots-shout September 4, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Let’s get it right. Only 63 days

    Counting September 4, 2012 THERE ARE ONLY 63 DAYS LEFT TO DECIDE AMERICA’S FUTURE.

    It is not that I consider Romney superior to Ron Paul. It is not that I dislike Ron Paul. It is hard core reality with which America must now recognize. Ron Paul was not the Republican Party’s nominee. Romney was. The importance of America’s future is too great a risk at this time to start a third party for Ron Paul. There isn’t enough time left to build up sufficient support for any third party candidate. Every patriotic American needs to vote against Obama this election if we hope to begin to restore America to Constitutional rule and diminish the judicial and financial corruption that has overwhelmed America.

    This isn’t about Romney. We all know the Republican Party is just as willing to play “dirty politics” as are the Dems. It is about taking back America. At this stage it makes little difference how much you think Romney is just like Obama and therefore may refuse to vote for either candidate because you believe there is no choice. A non-vote is a pro Obama vote. A vote for Romney is a vote against Obama and for the first embryonic seeds to begin to restore America. Romney may be a poor choice. Obama is death to America. My choice is do whatever no matter how large or small to SAVE AMERICA.

    We’ve had four years to debate, protest, create a third party and/or convince America Ron Paul, Sarah Palin or whoever should be running the country. We failed in that plan. So now let’s all get behind the one we have got and boot this thug out of office. Since every other method we tried failed we must not lose our last chance to rid America of this cancer. All indicators show we have an excellent chance of getting this thug out of office by vote.

    There is so little Dem support, they are bussing black church members and college students as well as giving away free tickets in bars to get people to attend the DNC and fill the stadium for Obama’s speech. It is known the Dems are already seeding the election with 30,000 dead registered voters in NC. The DOJ fighting voter ID laws in any state where they are being presented, and worst of all THE COUNTING OF THE VOTES BEING DONE IN SPAIN BY A GEORGE SOROS OWNED COMPANY. It isn’t hard to foresee they will practice as much voter fraud, vote count fraud and lawlessness as they can. The Dems want to see their opposition divided and refusing to vote. For every non-vote is an Obama vote. We must overwhelm them with votes against Obama.

    Let’s get it right. Only 63 days

    • 121 heather September 4, 2012 at 8:45 pm

      I am on board with you and agree 100%. The time is not now for a 3rd party. We have to save america with this election and its the most important election ever for us.

  44. 122 SirLurksAlot September 4, 2012 at 11:03 am

    When I grow up, I want to be a crony..l

  45. 123 Birther Headlines September 4, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    David Farrar to Win Obama Election Challenge Race?

    Georgia resident David Farrar says that he will be the first to challenge President Obama’s place on the National Presidential Ballot this week [...]

    More at the link: http://birtherheadlines.blogspot.com/2012/09/david-farrar-to-win-obama-election.html

  46. 124 uguesswhat September 4, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    What Will Ron Paul Say Tonight?
    Date: 9/4/2012 12:06:28 Central Daylight Time
    information flowing around the internet about Ron Paul’s surprise appearance on the Jay Leno Show tonight.

    Rumor Circulate About Ron Paul’s Tuesday Night Trip to the Tonight Show

    http://www.examiner.com/article/rumors-circulate-around-ron-paul-s-tuesday-night-s-trip-to-the-tonight-show

    I don’t know if it is the right moment yet to announce this but AT SOME POINT I do believe he will jump back into the race for the Presidency in the next 60 days.
    GO, Ron Paul, make my day!!!

  47. 125 foxyladi14 September 4, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Keep your powder dry Patriots. :)

  48. 128 Ann September 4, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Guess we’ll have to wait until 2016 for RP to run again. Interesting interview with Jay Leno although I didn’t expect him to announce a run on a 3rd party ticket. He’s much smarter than that. I loved his comment about “what if” the 2 parties are the same. I wish he had the nerve to just come out and say it.

    • 129 ngw September 5, 2012 at 3:15 pm

      They all know about the FINANCIAL FRAUD GOING ON,This is where the focus should be,I wonder if paul can start talking more about this and cutting some of their benefits.This has to be brought out more,to the public signs need to be put up now,end the fed,it is corrupt.

  49. 130 hammer and nail September 4, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    Article II SuperPAC says 1/3rd of Americans KNOW Obama is ineligible: Just HOW does the enemedia expect to keep the lid on a well known fact of history?
    The other wellknown fact of history is that the media is the enemy of Americans!

  50. 131 Ann September 4, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    Amazing what you find on the internet! lol I was browsing this site when I saw that Romney’s father has an FBI file. He was appointed to a position in the government under Nixon…very interesting!

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/104714593/George-Romney-FBI

  51. 133 Jan Rogers September 5, 2012 at 5:09 am

    I am wondering or dreaming not sure which, maybe some of both. Anyone here versed in civil suits?
    What would it take to file a class action civil suit against obama, Pelosi, Reid, full Congress/Senate, Bush, Bernanke, and anyone else connected to the crime such as the CFR? Ask for $16 Trillion to be divided evenly amongst every “Tax paying Citizen” in the USA or anyone who paid taxes from 2009 to 2012 and all attorney fees be paid on top of the settlement.
    Would it be possible to demand a Jury trial? Or do civil trials automatically have a jury?

    • 134 heather September 5, 2012 at 12:18 pm

      we need a criminal trial–they are all criminals and i agree

    • 135 hammer and nail September 5, 2012 at 1:40 pm

      No I think you’re on to something. They’re immune through government positions, but NOT as private citizens. You need to nail them on some grievance they’ve done to you personally. Even small claims court.

      • 136 Jan Rogers September 5, 2012 at 2:03 pm

        Well, most small claims courts have a limit for the amount you can sue. I want a big Civil Court for a class action suit

        • 137 heather September 5, 2012 at 8:19 pm

          wait until they are retired and no longer protected by the govt then we can bring a national class action lawsuit for crimes against our country and her people and treason and whatever else we can think of.

  52. 139 A Crazy Old Coot September 13, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/kansas-officials-hold-hearing-to.html

    State Officials Considering Obama Citizenship

    Michigan Chronicle via Huffington Post

    (Hat tip Anon) [UPDATE BELOW]

    Kansas officials plan to hold a hearing Thursday afternoon to weigh whether President Barack Obama is a citizen and should appear on the state’s November ballot.

    snip……..

    Barack Obama, according to multiple sources, was not born to a citizen father. His father was never even admitted to this country as a resident alien. Barack Obama Sr. retained his British and Kenyan citizenship and passed them onto his son, which Mr. Obama has publicly claimed on his Fight the Smears website.

    ////////////////////////

    Read the rest at the above link


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