Thanksgiving 2012

©2012 drkate

This year, Thanksgiving day also falls on the Biblical Sabbath…signaled with the sign of the first sliver of the moon last Thursday.  It is a day of rest, prayer, and Thanksgiving for all our Creator has bestowed upon us, and to remember the work done in creation of the earth, the stars in the sky, and the creation of man from the clay of the earth, molded in His image, the breath of life infused from God.

I am grateful for all the learning and the exposure we have accomplished of the powers that wish our Nation and our people harm.  And for the other things we have learned about the political parties–that they are one party truly; that the USA is a corporation–which is using our money to pay their debts; the fraudulent bankers and fractional banking system; the lying media who have proven themselves to be state-controlled enemies of the people.  We know that none of them win elections–they steal them. We know who the enemy is and know they will not prevail…for the wage of sin is death.

And I am grateful to be an American, and to be bestowed with the creative American spirit and that essential creativity given to mankind through our Creator.  The socialists, islamists, jihadists, the bankers, the left adrift in a sea of hatred, the new world order…they all forgot about that.  Might will never make right, and like David & Goliath, the stones will hit their mark.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. TR, 1910

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving Day, stay close to the values that count.

 

105 Responses to “Thanksgiving 2012”


  1. 1 drkate November 22, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    Once a usurper, always a usurper. He will not prevail and his life is about to get pretty darn uncomfortable.

    And likely something that is in the works to bring him out of the closet:

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2012/11/analgate-where-obamas-sun-wont-shine.html

  2. 2 drkate November 22, 2012 at 12:36 pm

    In addition to focusing on voter fraud, and encouraging the governors of those states to refuse to certify the electoral college votes based on proven voter fraud, here is our last chance:

    http://drkatesview.wordpress.com/2012/04/19/amendment-12-and-january-9-2013-the-last-line-of-defense/

  3. 3 drkate November 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    here’s a plausible scenario for what happened on November 6, 2012–martial law was declared and the election postponed. (h/t tenacity)

    Any one else think this too?

    • 4 Bildo November 22, 2012 at 2:07 pm

      I was under the impression that Lincoln declared martial law and it was never “repealed”. It just hasn’t really been enforced. But since it is still in effect(minimally) that makes it possible for them to do everything they’re doing to us.

  4. 12 Tenacity November 22, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    God bless all of you on this Sabbath Day!

    Walls In Our Minds is taking a night off, but there are several years of great archives if you are looking for something to do tonight.

    Check this out: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-175828861.html

  5. 13 USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT November 22, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    For me, thanks giving is every day.

    Every morning I awaken I am glad and thankful. I made another day and still feel great. We are barely holding on financially but at least we have a comfortable home, a fantastic dog, and the satisfaction we made it another year.

    The celebration of Thanks Giving to commemorate our early settlers has always been a precious tradition in our household. It’s a great holiday and it takes us back to our roots. It reminds me how much I love America and our founding father’s ideas of what a Republic should be. Though those ideals are being attacked today, they are still the ideals I chose to live by and make it the goal for America to return to. This is what will be the focus of my thoughts on this special day.

    May you all have a happy Thank Giving!

  6. 14 foxyladi14 November 22, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving!To everyone. And thanks Kate for this blog and all the hard work you do. :)

  7. 15 doneinamerica November 22, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Have a blessed Thanksgiving Dr. Kate and all readers!!!

  8. 16 drkate November 22, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    A man to be thankful for: Ron Paul’s farewell address to Congress

    Transcript here: http://www.thedailybell.com/28295/Ron-Paul-Farewell-to-Congress

    Chuck Baldwin’s message: Farewell to a Giant:

    http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/archives/5275

  9. 17 parker November 22, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    Allow a Mexican invasion, bring about a mega depression, then incite a massive civil war, using foreign mercenaries to murder us…Thomas Chittum, former mercenary and Vietnam War vet explans:

    http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/mega-depression-then-mega-civil-war/

    Download his free book, Civil War 2, as a pdf file by clicking on image of book here:
    http://lamecherryfan.blogspot.com/2012/11/obamas-goals-mega-depression-then-mega.html

  10. 18 Durus November 22, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Peace, turkey pardoned by President Obama last Thanksgiving, euthanized
    Officials insist timing of death not suspicious.

    A turkey pardoned by President Obama last year was euthanized Monday, and officials are insisting the timing of the death — days before the Thanksgiving holiday — is not suspicious.

    Posted: 11/22/2012
    Last Updated: 10 hours and 31 minutes ago

    By: Mike M. Ahlers, CNN Senior Producer

    Washington — Peace, one of two turkeys pardoned by President Obama last year, was euthanized Monday, according to an official who insisted the timing of the death – days before the Thanksgiving holiday – was not suspicious.

    Rebecca Aloisi, vice president for marketing at the Mount Vernon Estate, confirmed that Peace had been dead after a weekend “illness.” But Aloise knew neither the nature of the illness, the manner of death, nor what had been done with the remains of the large, edible bird.

    “I appreciate where you’re going with this,” Aloisi told CNN. “But I assure you that these birds are extremely well cared for.” The decision to euthanize the bird was made by a veterinarian in consultation with Mount Vernon’s livestock department, she said.

    Read more: http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/national/peace-turkey-pardoned-by-president-obama-last-thanksgiving-euthanized#ixzz2D0PBD0gj

    And the rest of the story…

    The graveside service was held on the USS Carl Vinson with very few of the ship’s crew aware of the gobbler’s burial at sea.

    “Traditional procedures for Islamic burial was followed,” “The deceased’s body was washed (ablution) then placed in a white sheet. The body was placed in a weighted bag. A military officer read prepared religious remarks, which were translated into Arabic by a native speaker. After the words were complete, the body was placed on a prepared flat board, tipped up, whereupon the deceased’s body slid into the sea.”

  11. 19 USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT November 22, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    It doesn’t get any crazier than this. Because the idiot Repubs made an agreement with the dishonourable Demrats that if either won via cheating, then the other would not contest the election. How ridicules is that. The Demrats being the party without honor, can’t lose. So a dog and pony election is held. The Demrats cheat and win. The Repubs look the other way and concede to them. Why in the hell did America have to go through this exercise in futility? It is well known the Dems never stick to their agreements any how. This gave them a license to cheat while insisting Repubs honor their contract.. Why should the Repubs honor their agreement other than they were bought off, intimidated off or just part of one big system pretending it is a two party system.

    It doesn’t get any more pitiful than this. For starters, we need a third and fourth party. We need a super big conservative TV station. We need to start standing up for America and our values, traditions, and laws based upon the Federalist papers. We need the military on our side. We need, need, need. . .

    • 20 heather November 22, 2012 at 10:03 pm

      Yes, i read that same article—so why do we vote–right a dog and pony show so we can make believe all is well in corrupt dc.

      This is beginning to be a soap opera designed by hollywood—and stayed tuned for the next day.

      I know it’s late but I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and will continue to give thanks daily to our Lord and Savior, without him we are nothing.

      Thanks Dr. Kate for being a special part of our lives as well.

      • 21 drkate November 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm

        …we could start with paper ballots in every state, and a strong “third” party (as dems and Rs are the same) forming a strong competitive movement that sweeps out the capitol starting in 2014.

        • 22 heather November 23, 2012 at 2:30 pm

          I have paper ballots with a blak sharpie–fill in the circles and drop in the scanner box–easy–not sure if they can still cheat with the scanner–but the actual ballots are marked.

          • 23 hammer and nail November 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm

            How about people just use a blank index card and write down in black sharpie, the names of who they want to vote for. Then another one for YES v. NO on individual measures.

  12. 24 Durus November 22, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    November 22, 2012
    The Mysterious Death of Gen. George S. Patton
    By Robert K. Wilcox

    Sixty-seven years ago, on a cold December 9th in 1945 Germany, legendary American general George S. Patton was injured in a strange auto “accident” on a road outside Mannheim, near the Rhine River. The opinionated anticommunist died twelve days later. Today, the evidence that he was murdered — the first in a line of postwar political assassinations including that of President John F. Kennedy — is mounting.

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_mysterious_death_of_gen_george_s_patton.html#ixzz2D0c7uw7P

  13. 25 typistjan November 22, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Happy Thanksgiving Dr. Kate, and all here searching for truth.

    For any of you legal beagles here, please check this out and see if this might be our chance to right the wrongs

    http://fundamentalerror.com/

    • 26 drkate November 22, 2012 at 8:41 pm

      Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Jan.

      This action certainly tells the story properly. The one thing missing is the federal judges have conflict of interest…so it would not be in their interest to approve this case even for hearing. But someone has got to start this, and this document is a good one–if only to tell the story properly as to what has happened.

    • 27 drkate November 22, 2012 at 10:21 pm

      Well I looked through the site, very interesting…it really strikes to the heart of the practical effect of the Congress’ use of our money to promote murder. Yes SCOTUS ‘ruled’, but Congress–in collusion with other corporations has ultimate responsibility for knowingly or unknowingly-unwittingly either way-crashing the US economy. And the feminists…shakes head…

      maybe instead of money they should require the defendants to repent…

      but…the link goes to facebook, they don’t specify who of their list of attorneys they are using, and the complaint filing just lists them as ‘plaintiffs’… and every proposal for action or to join a lawsuit is ‘suspect’, imho…

    • 30 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 5:38 pm

      Very admirable attempt. Be nice if it works.
      I took a quick look at that suit. I had a problem starting here: “deplete our own taxpayer base needed to
      sustain governmental functions, and, certainly not least, we also destroy the mathematical
      bases of all long-term financial instruments, like private and public pension funds, Social
      Security, government bonds, mortgage securities and other types of derivatives, and etc”.

      “deplete our own taxpayer base needed to sustain governmental ….”
      Taxpayers money doesn’t actually go to sustaining “the government”.
      As far as I know, Corp US is sustained by borrowing, at interest, from Fed Res.
      I won’t even go into derivitives Soc. Sec. and the rest.
      Well, should be interesting. Defacto vs Defacto.
      Still waiting on Obummer to grab everybody’s pensions, 401k’s, etc.

    • 34 Ann November 23, 2012 at 7:30 am

      Interesting case but Orly’s track record doesn’t give me much hope. And WHY Mississippi??

      • 35 hammer and nail November 23, 2012 at 11:09 am

        The provocateur-fbi RUN left and right wing extremist groups, they cause left and right wing false flags to draw out more left and right wing “extremists” so they can be manipulated, kept busy, identified, and enhance inherent strains in viewpoint instead of bringing Americans together in commonalities, and scapegoat certain groups.
        Orly led the charge over the cliff, time and time again. She has remained mostly believable along the way…until things “mattered” and she inevitably dropped the ball consistently.
        There’s no reason why one person should have been self-appointed leader.

      • 36 Voco Indubium November 24, 2012 at 7:15 pm

        RE: “…Orly’s track record…”

        Have to admit: Orly made some procedural or other mistakes. Many of her mistakes were happily used by the biased judges. Impartial judges would have often allowed a chance for correction, given the very grave and serious nature of her claims, and the consequences of sweeping the damage under the rug, banana-republic-style. They ruled against her incorrectly even at the times when there were no mistakes.

        What about the track record of the others? Precise and articulate eligibility-case attorneys, who did not make such mistakes? Are their track records any better than hers?

        The fact is that the entire Judicial Branch is rotten from top to bottom. They abuse their power and their immunity, and breaking their oaths to protect the constitution, daily.

  14. 37 USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT November 23, 2012 at 10:31 am

    (The ideas in this statement have been previously discussed. However, I think they need to be repeated until Americans start awaking0

    WE ARE A CAPTURED PEOPLE

    According to all the information about the corporate America, we haven’t had the protection of the Constitution since approximately 1881 or 1913. That means America has been like the little child first learning to ride a bike. He’s riding with the confidence his papa is still hold the bike so he can ride not realizing he’s been without his papa for a whole block.

    We are a captured people under the illusion we were/are free. The constitution we so dearly love and believed was our guaranteed protection from government abuse was and is a fantasy. It hasn’t been effective for nearly 150 years depending which date we use.

    Smoke and mirrors, illusion and delusion are what America’s belief in the existence of the Constitution has been riding upon for the past century. No wonder there is no one to step forward to terminate this rogue regime of rulers who so cleverly stole our country without our even realizing it happened. They did know something we did not. They had no qualms about using it to their advantage and our disadvantage. They literally pulled the wool over the American citizen’s eyes.

    Obama doesn’t answer to the American people. He and his ruling regime answer to NWO. NWO is now in control of America. The only law that will is exist is the law NOW approves. The havoc they will bring upon American citizens hence forward will not be repairable and permanent. Check out the UN Agenda 21 supported by this ruling regime to get a preview of what they intend to do to us.

    It all began over 60 years ago or even before that while we the people were blindly working for America and our families still believing we had a valid and true contract that protected us from government abuse. While we were doing that they were dumbing down America and corrupting our youth who grew up to become voters who were so stupid, they voted against their own best interests. May I suggest reading The Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman.

    • 38 hammer and nail November 23, 2012 at 11:00 am

      London picks our P and VP and we have a pretend vote to placate the masses.

    • 39 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 11:52 am

      Yup, keep repeating. Hopefully people will wake up to what happened to them— It was all done administratively. And then “do the solution”— ie; get out of Corp US—-administratively. It seems like everybody spends too much time complaining about a system that was never intended to be “fixed”. If we can cut off the money supply, it should choke and die. I know I keep ranting about this, but what other solution is there that is outside the present system. If they have no jurisdiction over you, they can’t control you.

      • 40 USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT November 23, 2012 at 12:08 pm

        Billdo, the problem is who is going to tell them they can’t control us. This is a government is rules with a gun. The gun is pointed right at us. I agree to stop the money. However if we do stop it– or even if we don’t stop the money flow–they will come right to our door, enter our homes take inventory al all we have and take it. That is precisely what Hitler did to the Jews. Then they hired George Soros to enter the empty homes take inventory, estimate the value and give it to Hilter. George Soros is still doing that today. He claims to have loved his jib then.

        • 41 heather November 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm

          soros brags about what he did–evil bastard he is. he should be in freakn prison for all of his criminal activities.

        • 43 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 2:50 pm

          The courts will tell them not to bother you.
          Which is why we need to finish the re-seating of the Republic.
          Corp US has statutes that they must follow. If they don’t, then we take them to federal court. Federal court is very visible and better educated, than the lower courts. It all comes down to jurisdiction. That’s the key. “Who gave you jurisdiction over me, the flesh and blood, living-soul?” Those of us involved with utilizing the UCC have been having success. We have had judges leave the bench and not come back. For one of my cases, the judge got too scared and recused himself. And that’s the clincher. You need to know who they really are and what their position/role is. AND, know who you are and who you are not. When I go into court, I have docs to back me up that I am not a US citizen, US person, resident of US territory, etc.
          Look into Land Patents also. (Why do you pay property taxes?)

          • 44 hammer and nail November 23, 2012 at 3:35 pm

            What “are” you then in Court?
            And what is the real reason why courts reject Zer0′s ineligibility cases based on lack of “standing” ???

            • 45 hammer and nail November 23, 2012 at 3:43 pm

              If “we” are mere corporate assets, what “right” do we have to object to the appointment of corporate officers?
              The constitution for the nation has obviously been junked, and this parallel universe constitution is merely set up to defraud and trick Americans. It’s just that nobody would believe this paradigm is in effect!

              • 46 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm

                “If “we” are mere corporate assets, what “right” do we have to object to the appointment of corporate officers?”
                None. But the voting/campaining thing sure keeps everybody entertained and lets them think they actually have a say-so. They keep you focused on the right hand while the left hand is doing….. what?

                “It’s just that nobody would believe this paradigm is in effect!”
                Yup, we’ve been deceived from birth on. kinda hard to shake it off.
                That’s why I use the term “Grand Delusion”. Didn’t the Creator say something about man being sent a grand delusion that is so intense that it could almost fool the elect? Heh—Ta-Daaaaaa!!!!

            • 47 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

              I’m a third party intervener or “Authorized Representative of the Legal Person known as (name in ALL CAPS)”. Some people bring in a copy of their birth certificate and wave it around. I also bring in various affidavits as to reservation of rights under common law, Declaration of Domicile, etc.
              You’ll have to refresh my mind on: “why courts reject Zer0′s ineligibility cases based on lack of “standing” ???”. It sounds familiar, but I can’t quite place it.
              This guy’s from Canada and fun to watch:
              http://www.time4thetruth.info/2011/12/t4tt-exclusive-dean-c-clifford-both.html

              They’re under the Corp system too. He explains how they gotcha.

          • 48 heather November 23, 2012 at 8:58 pm

            We have talked about land patents for the past 4 yrs here as well—we the people have been jilted beyond belief.

            • 49 heather November 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm

              When you go to settlement on your newly purchased mortgage the title company has a special document called the mineral doc—-which you MUST sign–it waives your rights to any minerals or oil or gas that is below the surface of you ground—it stays with the govt! Most people never pay attention to that document—they just sign away their signatures and rights.

              If at any time you HAPPEN to strike it rich in your own back yard, you cannot put a claim in–as it doesnt belong to you! How’s that make you feel about property ownership!

              • 50 Kathy November 24, 2012 at 1:05 am

                Mineral rights are generally sold seperately from the land rights. You can purchase the mineral rights if they are for sale. However, the corrupt oil and gas with their massive collusion, will never drill on your property unless, they say so. They can drill on land all the way around you, and now with horizontal drilling, suck the oil and gas right out from under you. They are gettting away with theft. The fox is guarding the hen house.

      • 51 typistjan November 23, 2012 at 3:59 pm

        Even though I agree with what you are saying, I have a problem as well as many Americans that depend on Social Security to pay our bills. Unfortunately the Feds control money that was and is not theirs. They call it an entitlement, however it was and is my money not theirs. So, if I opt out, I have no money and if I’m opted out I’m not entitled to welfare, so along with all the plans to become independent, are there any solutions for all of us on Social Security? Or, do we sit back and encourage others to opt out until enough have done it to take our states back and regain control of our money?

  15. 52 hammer and nail November 23, 2012 at 1:44 pm

    SO, the “Corporation’s” Constitution uses federal zones (CA, OR, UT, WY, NV, VA, NY etc) and ZIP codes … so does this mean that the Corporate Constitution does not recognize states, thus does not recognize states rights?
    So is this a parallel universe? Americans think they are citizens of a nation, but the ruling realm in 10 square miles (WA DC) considers them assets and the territory to be federal “zones”?

    So what does this mean? How can we “not agree” to be their corporate assets? When we have governors who capitulate to federal zones as effective corporate subordinates, how do we get our Nation States back? Who can really be in charge of our Nation States?

    • 53 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 2:37 pm

      That’s right. Parallel universe is a good way to describe it. Remember those overhead projectors used in school? Set a map of our country on there, the Republic, and then put another layer over that called Federal Territory. Now, anywhere that uses the zip or 2-letter state abbreviation is federal territory. That takes care of the land.
      The STATE OF is just a federal sub-corporation, for administrative purposes.
      Then, take an eraser, and for every man or woman that removes themselves from the federal corporate layer, erase that part of the federal layer.(Picture zooming in) Now, if all those people re-join the Republic, the federal layer will mostly disappear. There will be a severe lack of votes(and money) in the Corp US system all the way down to local levels
      .
      That’s where getting back to the Republic comes in. It has been re-inhabited. Documents are supplied to you to prove that you are not a citizen of Corp US. All states now have dejure Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches, etc… but there are still more positions to fill. Right now in Wisconsin, we’re working on filling the county levels. This is for real. The Republic has already talked to DOJ, FBI, DHS, and maybe others I am not aware of. The main question that they keep on seeming to ask is, “Is there, or will there be, any violence involved”? They are always told, “No, even though there are offshoots and splinter groups who condone violence, we do not”.
      And, as you can see by various news stories, the military is not happy with what is going on. Obama is firing more and more officers. And the enlisted ranks are refusing to follow unconstitutional orders. They are constantly being reminded, by us, of their oath to support and uphold the constitution.
      They just don’t have a lawful government in position to work for, so they work for the Corp, for right now.
      I went a step further and started using the UCC, which is global, and separated my “self” from the state (corp) created entity known as “the Legal Person”. Also known as DEBTOR. That’s another ball ‘o wax but very useful.

  16. 54 foxyladi14 November 23, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    This is some scary stuff.Pray like you never Prayed before. :)

  17. 55 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Hammer and Nail—I hope I answered ok. There’s so many threads and adhesion contracts that I can get sidetracked pretty easily. The “Grand Delusion” is quite involved.
    Yes,foxyladi14—keep on praying. This is spiritual as well as political(worldly)

    • 56 USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT November 23, 2012 at 3:50 pm

      This entire issue of corporate and non corporate America is bringing new light and maybe even hope to “captured America”. Bildo and all who have a thorough understandinng–that is–enough of an understanding to put this information in simplifed language–so that a 12 year old like me could grasp it enough to have the confidence to put it into action.

      We need to get this information into the hands of the now confused American–which is practically all of us. This has to go viral. This has to go underground in the form of an underground nedws letter–leave it EVERYWHERE: EMERGENCY ROOM LOBBIES, GROCERY STORE BULLETIN BOARDS,GYM DRESSING ROOMS, POST OFFICE, DOCTOR’S OFFICES, AIRPORTS, EVERYWHERE ON THE INTER NET AND………..

      Time is of the essence. Let’s begin.

      • 57 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 4:34 pm

        @USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT—-You brought tears to my eyes. Literally.
        There are printable flyers available to hand out and leave wherever you want. There are also newsletters that you can also get once you are a member of the Republic. Here is the link for the national level:
        http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/
        From that you can get your state contact info and maybe there will be a meeting held in your area so you can ask all the questions you want. And bring your friends. You’ll also be invited to educational seminars at various times.
        This is all “ABOVEground”. Education and truth. If you don’t believe any part of it–question it.
        As a matter of fact, I was just called last night by the governors office to run again in the next election comming up. In 2010 I was appointed, by the governor, to the office of Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Wisconsin. That was an interim position. I lost that position when the next round of elections were held. But that’s ok. The guy elected has quite a bit more education in law and statutes. Now, I’ll be running for District Judge.

        Yes, this is all very exciting. I believe drkate has access to my e-mail address and she may give it to those who are interested. I might not be able to answer all questions, but I can at least point you to those who can.
        Until then, I’ll answer anything I can, right here. Ah, heck with it, here it is. Feel free. If this is inappropriate, drkate can remove it.
        bill_wiethaup@hotmail.com
        If there are any trolls out there: bring it on. The BIG BOYS know all about me and where I live. Besides, with my “Status” the big boys now work for me. Finally, it’s back to them being “Public Servants”, where they belong.

        • 58 Tenacity November 23, 2012 at 7:25 pm

          Be aware folks, Republic for the United States is Tim Turner’s latest TRAP.

          • 59 drkate November 23, 2012 at 7:46 pm

            Thanks Ten. For those who don’t remember, the TRAP plan was about a couple of years ago which was sending letters to the governors of each state and calling on others to replace the governor and other offices…led by Tim Turner…multiple reports that this was in fact a ‘trap’ for patriots…rumors that Turner is begin charged with tax evasion…is that a ‘way out’ or will he fight it based on constitutional grounds?

            • 60 Tenacity November 23, 2012 at 7:56 pm

              Many who have gotten sucked into Turner’s claims will no longer associate with him. Turner has made many empty promises that have consistently failed to materialize and, in some cases, gotten people in trouble or cost them a lot of time and money. Some officers of the County Assemblies have claimed Turner is on FEMA payroll. One of his past associates was Sam Kennedy (that was a known alias) who helped a few people end up in the hoosegow. Turner proclaimed himself to be president of his latest so-called republic. Best exercise a lot of caution on this one. We have interviewed numerous people who at one time worked closely with Turner. One was on Walls In Our Minds last week. None of them trust him today and make a point of disassociating themselves.

            • 61 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 8:19 pm

              That’s the only remaining charge as far as I know. It was brought down, after they tossed 164 years of possible confinement, to a tax issue. He knows his stuff. If I remember correctly, he is also an SPC. The IRS, hopefully, will be forced to go according to Public Policy.
              The letters that were sent to each state’s corporate governor came from the people of the dejure Republic, through their state’s elected officials. With as many individual states that there are, I’m glad President Turner was there to help co-ordinate things.
              The corporate governors were asked/demanded to vacate the positions and buildings they were inhabiting unlawfully. This is what is called “Administrative Process”. It’s the way things are done, peacefully.

              I’m still not seeing a trap here. Like I said, question THEM. Don’t rely on “multiple reports”. Use discernment.

              • 62 drkate November 23, 2012 at 8:50 pm

                Thanks for the explanation. Now I remember why I discerned this was an effort to be careful about until more was known about the individuals leading it…and to see what happened, which so far is nothing. This is not to disagree with the basic premise that the USA is a corporation and has been since 1871.

                • 63 Bildo November 24, 2012 at 12:25 pm

                  Heh, yeah, just like defacto to smear someone. I’ve gone through alot of the negative stuff said about Pres. Turner. Found MOST of it to be unsubstantiated. I saw the complaint against him for this present incarceration. It was huge! It worked very well for a smear campain. They dropped everything but the one tax issue. As we have noticed, defacto works this way to smear people in their own system.
                  Pres. Turner offered to resign as president shortly after the arrest. We have, so far, said “No”.
                  We need to go for the substance. When you read the first page of the link I posted for RuSA, doesn’t that sound like what we used to have? And could still have? Like I said before, if you don’t agree with someone, vote them out.

                  • 64 drkate November 24, 2012 at 12:55 pm

                    No this is not a smear…it is my honest opinion. And there were no votes taken re any officers…it was all top-down. I suspect a lot of people are in this as diversions and not the real thing. for example, what about Fulton, or Drake, or some of the others? This effort while it sounded good did not produce anything but arrests and discrediting others.

                    • 65 Bildo November 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm

                      I didn’t mean you did the smear. I meant others.
                      It might have started top down, but you have to start somewhere. If he gets voted out, then he gets voted out. It can happen.
                      I know alot of people who follow Drake, Fulford, etc, both inside and outside the Republic.They don’t interest me, much. Although, I do occasionally read some of their stuff when it pops up in the alternative news.
                      Yes, people can get in trouble and get arrested when removing themselves from Corp US. It can be difficult because of the corruption of the system that is in place. There are alot of adhesion contracts that bind us to Corp US and we’re still uncovering them. Having mail delivered to your house, or mailbox, and using FRN’s are just a couple of them. It’s easy to “get in trouble” due to their lack of full disclosure.

          • 66 Bildo November 23, 2012 at 7:58 pm

            It’s not “Tim Turner’s Republic”. It’s ours. You can vote him out if you want. National government is UNDER the states. And the states are UNDER the people. Go to the site I linked and read it. It says what they’re all about. If that doesn’t convince you that we are continuing what the founders gave us the first time around, then don’t join. I just don’t see how a public servant, that far down the hierarchy, can “trap” me.
            I understand at one time he was working in FEMA. But hey, I used to be Air Force. We have former LEO’s, Army, etc, that have figured out this deception, too. Many have a past we’re not proud of. Look at it this way, President Turner knows the inner workings of FEMA. Let us know if he pulls anything unconstitutional.
            But are you going to stay being a corporate citizen subject to statutes, and being collateral for the national debt by contract? Here, we have a solution.

  18. 69 Quantum Leap November 23, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    LOL

  19. 70 Quantum Leap November 23, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    This is why they call it BLACK Friday

    “A fight broke out in the midst of early Black Friday shopping at Woodland Mall early Friday.

    Details are sketchy, but Kentwood Police confirmed that two teens were taken into custody.

    The news spread quickly on Twitter. “Gang fight at Woodland Mall,” tweeted Michael Peneycad. “Cops tackled them and sprayed pepper spray, everyone in that wing started coughing and sneezing.”

  20. 71 Quantum Leap November 23, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    “Shoppers surged into an Urban Outfitters store on the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica after midnight Friday and smashed a tall glass door, injuring about five people, authorities said.

    Paramedics treated a few shoppers for minor cuts but no one was transported to the hospital by ambulance, said Sgt. Marty Fine of the Santa Monica Police Department.

    “It was just too many people, too fast,” Fine said.

  21. 73 heather November 23, 2012 at 10:22 pm

    Remember when you were a kid and your parents did all their shopping the day before any holiday—because the holiday all stores were closed! Nothing was opened.

    Never shop on black friday–it’s all a sham. They raise prices just before the sale, then lower them to make believe you are saving a bundle of money!

    • 74 jayjay November 24, 2012 at 11:15 pm

      I watched the two recliners I bought for 3 months..waiting for a sale.
      It got here–I saved 240 dollars for the two.
      I used that money to help others; assisted a veteran sheltering other veterans in Arizona living in the forest, fed 12 in Texas Thanksgiving dinner, and sent XXX dollars to a forum contact getting kicked out of his house with his family this week.
      I used that sale wisely..:-)

      • 75 jayjay November 24, 2012 at 11:29 pm

        Hammer and Nail, very interesting.
        I did want to add when I shopped, the line began at 7:30, mostly young adults or teens, very orderly and when allowed in at 8, the line proceeded two at a time, no pushing, shoving, rushing, everyone polite.
        But this was Kentucky….:-)

  22. 77 Bildo November 24, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    And the only time when there were sales was the after Christmas sales. And I don’t recall any of them being violent. Hate to see what happens when we crash in the near future.

  23. 78 zekemae November 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm

    As I was reading about all the fights and other forms of violence committed by idiots on Black Friday, I realized once again the danger we all face if there is some type of doomsday occurrence. The brain-dead Obama voters will not know what hit them! As for me and my house, we are preparing.

  24. 80 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I’ve been listening to this Dean Haskell from BC. Up in Canada they have about the same barrister system as in the USA, it is foreign, it stems from UK.
    From what I gather, Canada nor USA have a domestic government, we are governed by UK.
    BUT we are “indigenes” as in INDIGENOUS peoples. And so in order to tax us, in order to apply nonsensical unconstitutional (both in USA and Canada) laws, they have to get us to acknowledge that we are foreign subject.

    In essence when you are born and you have a RECORD of live birth, this is converted to a BIRTH CERTIFICATE issued by the foreign entity, the UK, which actually then owns you.
    When you are an indigenous person, a free man/woman on the land, you are the beneficiary, but when you are a corporate asset of or US CITIZEN of the UK government, THEY are the beneficiary and you too become a foreigner as their asset, they can tax you and apply statutory laws which violate your rights, because you have willingly given up your rights already, by signing on as an underling, a nothing, in their system.

    Yes, they have guns and confiscation and heft, but legally if you always stage an inroad into the courts based on an initial agreement that you are an INDIGENE (that is French for Indiginous) and you are NOT functioning as a foreigner in your own land, THEN and only then can you assert your Constitutional rights.

    It is much more than not using your name in all caps. In Canada he speaks of affirming his rights as freeman on the land with “the Crown” … and in the USA one needs to affirm their rights as a NON-CORPORATION USA ASSET, as an INDIGENE of America, that you are functioning as such and approaching the CIVIL COURTS as such (not statutory courts, where you are by participation admitting you are a foreign asset of the UK/USA government).
    Once this pre-agreement is arrived at, then and only then can you assert your constitutional rights.

    So the courts have been “right”…when they rule consistently that a Citizen of the USA has “NO STANDING” to challenge BHO’s eligibility. However, an INDIGENE of AMERICA does have standing to challenge BHO’s eligibility. They DO have standing as a Constitutional matter. One would have to work backwards to un-define the corporate constitution’s redefinitions which remove your rights as an indigenous American. For example, if you are a natural born citizen, and through miswording they have labeled you a CITIZEN, you have to use your Record of Live Birth to re-acquire your status as indigene, indigenous American, and not corporate asset of the UK.

    American Barristers have title, Esquire, as officers of the United Kingdom government, they manipulate the legal structure for the corporate asset-persons. The American legal system is outright hostile to pro se (persons without a lawyer) and will even pay taxpayer money to get a person a lawyer as opposed to them arguing their own cases. If a person goes pro se in court, they are just that much closer to enforcing their rights as an INDIGENE.

    I don’t know what this means to those who are not indigenous Americans, as in those who naturalized…I think they are permanent corporate assets and only ever will be CITIZENS…but those indigenous Americans are not by right beholding to the UK foreign government which really IS the American government.

    Assert yourself with Record of Live Birth as an Indigenous American. Notice also how there is an effort to remove your self-label as such, and only apply it to American Indians (who were here after Norwegians, to show the ludicrous-ness of it all).

    I am an INDIGENE of AMERICA. Just as the Law of Nations says as referenced by Article I Section 8.

    All of these 160 or so legal cases have been barking up wrong tree, starting with capitulation that the Plaintiff is an already-deficient UK asset with no rights. Of course they have no standing. Only INDIGENES have standing to enforce the Constitution, once the rewording to define a person again as a UK asset is carefully tweezed out.

    It’s a big game. Parallel universe indeed.

    • 81 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 1:38 pm

      I meant Dean Clifford.

    • 82 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 1:47 pm

      “Indigènes” native innate belonging to — as in “this is our land not yours”
      This is the place from which our Constitutional rights emanate. Once you capitulate as “CITIZEN” you have given away your rights, the UK “government” is the beneficiary, rights all of the statutes, they have all of the rights, and you can be taxed at their sayso.

      • 83 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 1:47 pm

        “writes”

        • 84 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 2:42 pm

          Esquire is a rank of gentry originally derived from Squire and indicating the status of an attendant to a knight or an apprentice knight; it ranked below Knight but above Gentleman[3][4]
          Here is Dean Clifford part II

          • 85 Bildo November 24, 2012 at 4:42 pm

            Thank you, thank you, thank you, for posting this video again, and for your wonderful interpretation(above) about being a corporate asset.
            And, yes, you can withdraw from Corp US without joining the Republic. No matter what, you will be a “man on the land”.

      • 87 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 4:48 pm

        If you have no other choice but to be an American, i.e. both your parents were Americans, and you were born in America, especially with no other citizenships involved, you are an indigène, you are also a natural born citizen.

        I wonder if the fact that American Indians are also indigenous that they were put on to their own “nations” — but the fact is they are no more aboriginal, no more indigenous, no more native, than we who were born here of American parents are.

        The fact that the Constitution has been altered in certain definitions, does not obviate the innate rights of us, indigenous Americans, who have full rights to the land (including geo rights).

        It is the UK government phantom entity which is squatting on OUR land, playing games by altering common definitions to make us subservient to bogus governmental structures and demands.

        Cast off their title and reclaim your indigenous one, reject their doctrines of enslavement.

        • 88 Bildo November 24, 2012 at 5:12 pm

          That’s why in court I’m always pro se. They ask if I want a lawyer and I always tell them that I do not need a member of the BAR, an agent of the crown to represent my Legal Person. I also have a Declaration of Domicile. That way I don’t “reside” in their corporate matrix. Like you said, they have different definitions for common words. Really gotta stay on your toes. One misstep and they gotcha.

          • 89 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 5:37 pm

            When you buy real estate, how can you advise that your land as an indigenous American is not subservient to the dictates of the phantom UK government, that it is YOUR land, not in the corporate matrix. ALLOIDAL LAND, superior to any other landlord, including the phantom corporate matrix masters sitting in London? How can you make notice of this? As an indigenous American, your land should be your own private nation.

            You know I had always read how London picks our P and VP and we have a pretend vote…and now I totally believe that, I SAW it in the vote of 2012, massive vote flipping, vote cheating, illegals voting, redundant voting or redundant vote counting (in PA, CO, FL, OH), massive campaign finance fraud from foreign countries…I read about it all in 2008 too, I”m sure it’s happened well before this too. So we do LA LA VOTING where we skip-to-my-lou to the polls and the left side of the IQ bell curve actually believes their votes count, but we may as well have stayed home and made paper mache elephants and tigers as cast a vote — though if we don’t go that’s also castigated. ALL the vote does these days is log in your belief system on some grand list. I get all kinds of crap in the mail after voting.

            • 90 Tenacity November 26, 2012 at 12:05 am

              hammer, to start with, one must go all the way back to when their property was patented and formally record acceptance of every transfer of each deed from then until now. Then ‘actual notice’ must be effected. This will not wipe out any agreed debt signed personally, but it will wipe out any encumbrances prior to your acceptance of title. You can’t hypothecate what you don’t actually own and you don’t own that which is granted without accepting the grant. The person that granted you title failed to accept the conveyance of deed, and those before them. No acceptance…no contract. These open titles have been deliberately left open so the State could claim the abandoned ownerships and thus effectively rent them to the tenants. Hence ‘tenants in common’ or ‘joint tenants’.

          • 91 hammer and nail November 24, 2012 at 5:41 pm

            Doesn’t this mean that after George et al won the Revolutionary War, that the UK just reinstated its rule by stealth?
            I wonder if the UK’s demise is the precursor of our own, since the same idiots run the show there as apparently really run Canada and USA…i.e. infiltration of muslims, tearing down of rights of INDIGENOUS BRITAINERS, just as they’re allowing the overtake by Mexicans here, Chinese/Indians/Muslims in Canada??

            • 92 Bildo November 25, 2012 at 3:39 pm

              Plus, you add in the bankruptcy of US of 1933 where US was taken over by it’s creditors. US has been operating in receivership ever since. And no one in bankruptcy has any standing in law.

  25. 93 heather November 24, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/forensic-profiler-obama-confessing-election-fraud/

    I have always said, one has to read between the lines when barry speaks because that is where the truth is. Like you can’t see the forest for the tree.

    Just like catchig the words he uses always means the oppisite.

  26. 94 typistjan November 25, 2012 at 12:55 am

    If you get a chance, listen to Alex Jones Radio archive for 11-15-12 for Revolution
    I would like to hear feedback- I know, it’s a 3-hr program so set aside time.

    http://www.infowars.com/listen-to-the-radio-show-archive/

  27. 96 jane November 25, 2012 at 4:34 am

    Big O is “pledging” 2 oaths, one public, one private…here we go again!!!!!
    hmmm…Koran or Satan…both?

  28. 97 jane November 25, 2012 at 6:18 am

    DR KATE; Would you please headline this VIDEO? A must see by everyone now!

    http://www.infiltratednation.com/2012/11/radical-islam-plan-to-destroy-america.html

  29. 99 USAPATRIOTS-SHOUT November 25, 2012 at 7:39 am

    Islam is a culture of murder.

    Life is God given. The right to life is inalienable. No other group of people in the name of anything has the right to say who should be permitted to live on this planet and who should not. Anytime, anywhere one group of people take it upon themselves to claim they have the right in the name of anything to attempt to annihilate another group of people, then the righteous anger of the rest of the population should come forward—loud and clear. If people don’t think it is wrong to promote the genocide of another people—then it is only right to challenge their morality and sanity. Anyone who fails to do so is as demented and amoral as the same group who demands the genocide of another.

    Muslims are the only group of people who believe they have the right to exterminate others in the name of Allah. It is in their dogma and expected of every Muslim to convert or murder any one—no matter how many—who refuses to convert to Islam. The first on their death list are Jews. It is written into their Koran. Killing and murdering infidels is considered an act of worship to Allah. Herein lies the problem. To be a good Muslim means to be willing to murder in the name of Allah.

    I know of no other political/religious belief system in the world with such a doctrine. Any infidel—non Muslim—who supports this totally Islamic belief is insane. He is not acting in his own best interest. He should not expect anyone to come to his aid when he is being beheaded.

  30. 100 jane November 25, 2012 at 9:14 am

    agree! CItizens better wake up instead of worrying about their shopping lists for Christmas,, paying TAXES which much goes to support these terrorists, and other needless “things”.

  31. 101 parker November 25, 2012 at 10:06 am

    I feel that we are further along in the NWO takeover than we think, after all, what we are allowed to know is filtered by TPTB.

    Even before Obama’s 2008 win, Thomas Chittum predicted that the plan to overrun this country with illegal aliens, initiate the economic crash, then cut off the food supply to incite civil war was being actively engaged. Bush ran multiple thousands of companies overseas and Barry has carried on the traditions.

    http://whitelocust.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/mega-depression-then-mega-civil-war/

    This two-year-old video shows armed illegals entering on one path for one month and counted over 700 illegals entering. Do the math and the number is staggering.
    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgnqpMP3GYE&w=420&h=315%5D

    Add to the starving millions of illegals the Obama voters, his soon-to-be civilian military corps, and drones – and you can see that indigenous Americans make satisfying targets for Barry’s murdering video collection.

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/10/19/aw-cute-obama%E2%80%99s-civilian-army-femacorps-just-graduated-it%E2%80%99s-first-class/

    All the unemployed black youth, programmed to hate whitey and now killing with impunity and stealing the preparations made by those in-the-know, and you have the 350 million dead that Barry, Caliph of the NWO, so desires.

  32. 104 heather November 25, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/now-obama-wants-your-401k/

    here it is again! once again we will never hear this from the media–this is an alert to everyone here.

    tomorrow i am making phone calls to my congressmen and senators and demanding to put a stop to this.


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