The Blueprint

©2012 drkate

What Congressman Dr. Ron Paul describes is the hijacking of the American government ever since the FED was formed in 1913…and its current manifestation in Congressional failure, government behavior, and loss of liberty.   Those of us who have studied our history know this hijacking began a long time ago.  A ‘hijacking’ implies total control…our government is no longer the one we created.

In response to Congressman Paul’s statement, and in the light of the obvious  hijack of our election system Alex Jones hosted Edwin Viera and Porter Stansbury..found in Episode 10 for 11/15/2012.  Boith called for Ron Paul and state leaders to stand up to the counterfeit FED, which has hijacked our government (h/t Jan, Tenacity), and secede from the New World Order. The broadcast is long and Viera comes in at about 45 minutes.  The show builds heavily on Ron Paul’s video above.

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153 Responses to “The Blueprint”


  1. 1 Durus November 26, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Carried over from previous article…

    Ron Paul: Blind Support Of Israel Leads To Unexpected Consequences

    Written by Ron Paul

    November 26, 2012

    As of late Friday the ceasfire in Gaza seems to be holding, if tentatively. While we should be pleased that this round of fighting appears temporarily on hold, we must realize that without changes in U.S. foreign policy it is only a matter of time before the killing begins again.

    It feels like 2009 all over again which is the last time this kind of violence broke out in Gaza. At that time over 1400 Palestinians were killed of which just 235 were combatants. The Israelis lost 13 of which 10 were combatants. At that time I said of then-President Bush’s role in the conflict:

    Read more:
    http://www.albanytribune.com/26112012-ron-paul-blind-support-of-israel-leads-to-unexpected-consequences-oped/#.ULP4eWe8h4x

    • 2 drkate November 26, 2012 at 9:08 pm

      Thanks Durus!

    • 3 Durus November 26, 2012 at 9:27 pm

      So what would Ron Paul have us do different with Israel?

      Stand idly by and watch them be removed from the face of the Earth?

      I seem to remember Israel winning a war in 1967, which established their current borders, under miraculous circumstances.

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/the_six-day_war_israels_miraculous_victory.html

      • 4 sky November 27, 2012 at 7:39 am

        What would Ron Paul do to the corrupt federal reserve,IRS,Banksters, who is the first enemy.

        • 5 nunua November 27, 2012 at 11:56 am

          Sky:
          Ron Paul’s Latest “Audit the Fed” Bill Passes the House, 327-98 – Hit …

          Jul 25, 2012 … Ron Paul’s Latest “Audit the Fed” Bill Passes the House, 327-98 …. senior editor at Reason magazine and author of Ron Paul’s Revolution: The …
          reason.com/blog/2012/07/25/ron-pauls-latest-audit-the-fed-bill-pass

    • 6 Durus November 26, 2012 at 9:44 pm

      Ga 4:21 ¶ Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
      Ga 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
      Ga 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
      Ga 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
      Ga 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
      Ga 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
      Ga 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
      Ga 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
      Ga 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
      Ga 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
      Ga 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

      The children of the bondwoman seek to enslave us all.

      Should not the free stand with the free?

      • 7 Tenacity November 26, 2012 at 11:19 pm

        All of these quotes are in red, being the voice of Jesus.

        Matthew 23:15 Woe be unto you Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one of your profession; and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell, than you yourselves.

        Revelations 2:9 I know thy works and tribulation, and poverty (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them, which say they are Jews (Ioudaios, of the race of Judah), and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan.

        Revelations 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which call themselves Jews (Ioudaios), and are not, but do lie; behold, I say, I will make them that they shall come and worship before thy feet, and shall know that I have loved thee.

        The word Jew as known today did not exist when Scripture was written. The term Ioudaios meant ‘of Judah’ or today should translate ‘of the blood line of Judah, a race of people’. The fact is that 90% of those claiming to be Jews in the world today are proselytes of Talmudic Kabbalist rabbis and are not of Judaios. These are who initiated the Zionist movement. They are Luciferians and the ones despised by Jesus. The nation of Israel today does not represent the Israel of Scripture. They are not God’s chosen, but Satan’s chosen (counterfeit). To learn the history of the ‘alien financiers’, the Ashkenazim, read “Synagogue of Satan” by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock.

        The nation of Israel is fully capable of defending itself. They play on Zionism to control the world. These people have fomented and financed both sides of every war/major conflict since the French Revolution. The Mossad works hand in hand with the dark elements of our CIA. Want a good video that demonstrates this? Watch ‘War Is Always By Deception’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoB80Yk9NYg

        • 8 jayjay November 27, 2012 at 6:49 pm

          “‘Behold, the days are coming,’ says the Lord, ‘when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,’ says the Lord” (Jeremiah 31:31-32 [31]

          • 9 nunua November 28, 2012 at 3:16 pm

            Just wondering what that verse means exactly? I have many questions of Christianity.

            • 10 Tenacity November 28, 2012 at 10:12 pm

              I will not apologize for the length of this response. I trust your question is sincere and deserving of a thorough reply. You said below, “It seems that the bible can be interpreted any way you want.” This statement is only true in the absence of proper exegesis and a willingness of the interpreter to make Scripture say what it does not say. When one considers the context, the audience, the time and takes scriptural text in light of the Bible as a whole, the possible multiple interpretations are not contrasting, but complementary and expanding.

              As a matter of expedience, I offer the following commentary on the subject Scripture beginning with verse 29. I do not endorse the group providing this commentary, but find this particular exegesis consistent with mine. Taken from (http://www.studylight.org/com/mhc-com/view.cgi?book=jer&chapter=031) For a much clearer understanding, read all of the text referenced within the commentary.

              That they shall be reckoned with no further for the sins of their fathers (Jeremiah 31:29,30): They shall say no more (they shall have no more occasion to say) that God visits the iniquity of the parents upon the children, which God had done in the captivity, for the sins of their ancestors came into the account against them, particularly those of Manasseh: this they had complained of as a hardship. Other scriptures justify God in this method of proceeding, and our Savior tells the wicked Jews in his days that they should smart for their fathers’ sins, because they persisted in them, Matthew 23:35,36. But it is here promised that this severe dispensation with them should now be brought to an end, that God would proceed no further in his controversy with them for their fathers’ sins, but remember for them his covenant with their fathers and do them good according to that covenant: They shall no more complain, as they have done, that the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge (which speaks something of an absurdity, and is an invidious reflection upon God’s proceedings), but every one shall die for his own iniquity still; though God will cease to punish them in their national capacity, yet he will still reckon with particular persons that provoke him. Note, Public salvations will give no impunity, no security, to private sinners: still every man that eats the sour grapes shall have his teeth set on edge. Note, Those that eat forbidden fruit, how tempting soever it looks, will find it a sour grape, and it will set their teeth on edge; sooner or later they will feel from it and reflect upon it with bitterness. There is as direct a tendency in sin to make a man uneasy as there is in sour grapes to set the teeth on edge.

              III. That God will renew his covenant with them, so that all these blessings they shall have, not by providence only, but by promise, and thereby they shall be both sweetened and secured. But this covenant refers to gospel times, the latter days that shall come; for of gospel grace the apostle understands it (Hebrews 8:8,9, &c.), where this whole passage is quoted as a summary of the covenant of grace made with believers in Jesus Christ. Observe, 1. Who the persons are with whom this covenant is made–with the house of Israel and Judah, with the gospel church, the Israel of God on which peace shall be (Galatians 6:16), with the spiritual seed of believing Abraham and praying Jacob. Judah and Israel had been two separate kingdoms, but were united after their return, in the joint favors God bestowed upon them; so Jews and Gentiles were in the gospel church and covenant. 2. What is the nature of this covenant in general: it is a new covenant and not according to the covenant made with them when they came out of Egypt; not as if that made with them at Mount Sinai were a covenant of nature and innocency, such as was made with Adam in the day he was created; no, that was, for substance, a covenant of grace, but it was a dark dispensation of that covenant in comparison with this in gospel times. Sinners were saved by that covenant upon their repentance, and faith in a Messiah to come, whose blood, confirming that covenant, was typified by that of the legal sacrifices, Exodus 24:7,8. Yet this may upon many accounts be called new, in comparison with that; the ordinances and promises are more spiritual and heavenly, and the discoveries much more clear. That covenant God made with them when he took them by the hand, as they had been blind, or lame, or weak, to lead them out of the land of Egypt, which covenant they broke. Observe, It was God that made this covenant, but it was the people that broke it; for our salvation is of God, but our sin and ruin are of ourselves. It was an aggravation of their breach of it that God was a husband to them, that he had espoused them to himself; it was a marriage-covenant that was between him and them, which they broke by idolatry, that spiritual adultery. It is a great aggravation of our treacherous departures from God that he has been a husband to us, a loving, tender, careful husband, faithful to us, and yet we false to him. 3. What are the particular articles of his covenant. They all contain spiritual blessings; not, “I will give them the land of Canaan and a numerous issue,” but, “I will give them pardon, and peace, and grace, good heads and good hearts.” He promises, (1.) That he will incline them to their duty; I will put my law in their inward part and write it in their heart; not, I will give them a new law, for Christ came not to destroy the law, but to fulfil it; but the law shall be written in their hearts by the finger of the Spirit as formerly it was written in the tables of stone. God writes his law in the hearts of all believers, makes it ready and familiar to them, at hand when they have occasion to use it, as that which is written in the heart, Proverbs 3:3. He makes them in care to observe it, for that which we are solicitous about is said to lie near our hearts. He works in them a disposition to obedience, a conformity of thought and affection to the rules of the divine law, as that of the copy to the original. This is here promised, and ought to be prayed for, that our duty may be done conscientiously and with delight. (2.) That he will take them into relation to himself: I will be their God, a God all-sufficient to them, and they shall be my people, a loyal obedient people to me. God’s being to us a God is the summary of all happiness; heaven itself is no more, Hebrews 11:16,Re+21:3. Our being to him a people may be taken either as the condition on our part (those and those only shall have God to be to them a God that are truly willing to engage themselves to be to him a people) or as a further branch of the promise that God will by his grace make us his people, a willing people, in the day of his power; and, whoever are his people, it is his grace that makes them so. (3.) That there shall be an abundance of the knowledge of God among all sorts of people, and this will have an influence upon all good: for those that rightly know God’s name will seek him, and serve him, and put their trust in him (Jeremiah 31:34): All shall know me; all shall be welcome to the knowledge of God and shall have the means of that knowledge; his ways shall be known upon earth, whereas, for many ages, in Judah only was God known. Many more shall know God than did in the Old Testament times, which among the Gentiles were times of ignorance, the true God being to them an unknown God. The things of God shall in gospel times be made more plain and intelligible, and level to the capacities of the meanest, than they were while Moses had a veil upon his face. There shall be such a general knowledge of God that there shall not be so much need as had formerly been of teaching. Some take it as a hyperbolical expression (and the dulness of the Jews needed such expressions to awaken them), designed only to show that the knowledge of God in gospel times should vastly exceed that knowledge of him which they had under the law. Or perhaps it intimates that in gospel times there shall be such great plenty of public preaching, statedly and constantly, by men authorized and appointed to preach the word in season and out of season, much beyond what was under the law, that there shall be less need than there was then of fraternal teaching, by a neighbor and a brother. The priests preached but now and then, and in the temple, and to a few in comparison; but now all shall or may know God by frequenting the assemblies of Christians, wherein, through all parts of the church, the good knowledge of God shall be taught. Some give this sense of it, That many shall have such clearness of understanding in the things of God that they may seem rather to have been taught by some immediate irradiation than by any means of instruction. In short, the things of God shall by the gospel of Christ be brought to a clearer light than ever (2 Timothy 1:10), and the people of God shall by the grace of Christ be brought to a clearer sight of those things than ever, Ephesians 1:17,18. (4.) That, in order to all these blessings, sin shall be pardoned. This is made the reason of all the rest: For I will forgive their iniquity, will not impute that to them, nor deal with them according to the desert of that, will forgive and forget: I will remember their sin no more. It is sin that keeps good things from us, that stops the current of God’s favors; let sin betaken away by pardoning mercy, and the obstruction is removed, and divine grace runs down like a river, like a mighty stream.

            • 11 jayjay November 29, 2012 at 9:33 pm

              The Israelites ‘were’ the chosen ones; however, since they resorted to graven gold idol worshipping and ignoring God’s laws, the covenant(agreement/marriage) was defiled???

    • 12 jayjay November 27, 2012 at 7:00 pm

      The Key to True Secession with Dr. Edwin Vieira

  2. 14 drkate November 26, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    Obama labeled a communist by those who would know:

    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/11/26/russian-news-outlet-pravda-labels-obama-a-communist/

    …we know the presidency has been hijacked, aka usurped, with willing participation by those who could have stopped it, even now.

  3. 15 typistjan November 26, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    This might have more progress than succeeding from the Union. I think if the states break up it would leave each one more vulnerable. With our open borders at CA, TX, AZ they would be open to all out war with Mexico and they are armed to the gills. It would leave the coast lines open and I fear the Homeland Security would openly declare war on Citizens.

    Demand all states to reinstate their state Militias and secure the states’ borders.

    However, refusing to join the New World Order, getting out of the UN and the UN off our soil, get out of the Fed (eliminating the IRS) and then start down the line of NGOs and one at a time or all together eliminate them as they are all part of the UN Agenda 21.
    Thank you Dr. Kate.

  4. 16 Tenacity November 26, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    For the record Dr. Kate, you know that I have rejected a whole bunch of so-called plans that have come down the pike over the last 5 years and exposed many white ants, agent provocateurs and enemies within. I am also a student of Dr. Edwin Vieira’s and hold no one in higher esteem. If he says this is what we should do, then it is what we should do without reservation. He is not recommending we be careless. Listen closely to his instructions. No one has a greater understanding of our dilemma. No one is more deeply researched or knowledgeable of our founders intent. He is the premier constitutional authority and a clear thinker. It is at present the one plan I can get behind.

  5. 17 jane November 27, 2012 at 4:28 am

    Do you have a link to him? Thanks!

    • 18 Tenacity November 27, 2012 at 8:04 am

      Dr. Kate hyperlinks to his latest comments on InfoWars.com at the top (11/15 show). Dr. Vieira’s articles are posted at http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwinA.htm

      Dr. Vieira authored the Sound Money legislation proposed is many States that has died in committee along party lines. We need to continue the push for Sound Money as a competing currency at the State level using the Vieira plan. This is the only viable way I know of to break the crippling banking/taxing vortex now enslaving us. The new call for action is to officially withdraw consent from the counterfeit government controlled by the NWO (alien financiers) and raise up informed & articulate leaders State by State to restore the original/abandoned constitutional republic. As Jones encourages in the linked show and Doc V affirms, we need to draft the leadership of the only person that has stood for truth & constitution for a long time, Dr. Ron Paul.

      • 19 Troy November 27, 2012 at 8:34 am

        Terry, it’s not there.

        • 20 Troy November 27, 2012 at 8:46 am

          The most recent entry on that page is: Solicitation of Interest: For my New Militia Book, 9-4-12

          • 21 Tenacity November 27, 2012 at 10:06 am

            The request was for a link to Dr. Vieira. He has not written specifically on what he stated on InfoWars that I am aware of. Have to listen to the show to get that. What Stansbury has to say is worth listening to also.

      • 22 drkate November 27, 2012 at 9:44 am

        Napolitano, speaking on the same grounds, suggested Rand Paul take the lead. I would totally object to that. Right now I feel that if you’re playing the game in Congress, you are part of the problem.

        • 23 Troy November 27, 2012 at 10:03 am

          Rand certainly does not = Ron.

          Rand is a player….I’m not sure if he thinks the best strategy is to infiltrate them, but if he does he’ll soon find out that it is he that will be infiltrated.

          • 24 Tenacity November 27, 2012 at 10:12 am

            It’s hard to tell about someone trying to stay on the political ladder, much less climb it. Read Larkin Rose’s ‘The Iron Web’. Do I trust Rand at this point? Nada. How do you stay a statesman and survive in D.C.? It may be impossible on the surface at this point. Look at how his father was marginalized and even demonized. As Dr. Ron said, “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.”

  6. 26 parker November 27, 2012 at 11:07 am

    OT – Benghazi wasn’t a consulate and Barry and Hitlery were gun-running in Libya. Barry is sacrificing the American military who are unwitting mercenaries…fighting for Saudi Arabia.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51346

    • 27 nunua November 28, 2012 at 3:18 pm

      I just love the Canada free press. We have to get out news truth from out of the country today. How sad and scary is that?

  7. 28 nunua November 27, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    TRUTH REALIZED

    I question: How important is truth really? What is its true effect on our lives?

    The search for truth seems to be the most elusive of all quests. Is it simply so well hidden that it can’t be found? Truth lives in an alternate reality as do all Universal Powers and cannot be understood only realized. Explanations or understanding will not work to seek out truth. Truth lives with peace, serenity, harmony, love all the good things. These things are very benign in their existence. When true peace is achieve one finds that it is almost imperceptible. Truth will leave you speechless…at first.

    Humans love to be amazed, shocked, frightened, astounded entertained at virtually any cost. More money is spent on entertainment than on all the wars. We love our imagination to be stimulated as the Universe opens up in our minds. Imagination is the first mental ability to be developed as children. We are in a constant state of imagination, dreaming of what could or should be our alternate personal life and wonderment of the unknown or what could be known. It is a state of fantasy that every person lives in constantly. Advertising is made to stimulate the imagination providing an illusion of your life with what they are selling. We don’t try to use imagination because it is in a constant state of operation 24-7. We all love our imagination and constantly seek out things that will stimulate it from books to TV to movies to computer games to gambling to all kinds of activities. Truth does not stimulate the imagination because truth just is.

    Truth is found normally by accident or serendipitously or occasionally by someone like a teacher or a book or article that you recognize as truth. Finding and realizing truth can be exciting but it can also be damming. Truth is not always fun. Most truth or facts are found by illumination which leaves only truth or fact. When found truth is simply accepted realized and you move on. Trying to share truth is a none event and often times not well received by others if you try to share. Seeking for truth is not a normal activity and in fact is not of consideration in normal everyday life. Seeking for truth is an activity that simply is not defined. People believe that truth is important but who among us truly knows what it is or where it is found, what it looks like or if it affects the senses?
    I have been finding truth through the absence of truth. Looking for clues to where truth should be but is not. As with symptoms of disease pointing to the disease I look for symptoms of none truth or the absence of truth. Normally we seek to have truth presented to us…then we choose to accept or reject it. But when real truth is presented or found…there can be no rejection. There can be a denial and turning away from it but inside you know now the real truth. Living a lie of hypocrisy. For this reason most people are hesitant to be confronted with truth. It is frightening to most people and not in a good way. True seekers plow forward and take what may of it and often times pay a heavy price. The price is living with the truth with knowledge and acceptance of it. It would seem this would be a good thing not a bad thing…would it not? Let’s take a journey through everyday reality to see what we can find there.

    Most people today are in a quandary over our government. I began to question what American government truly is. No matter what kind of government…it exists because people allow themselves to live with it. There is a progression from what is good for the people that slowly turns into what is good for the government. All sales pitches start off with stimulating the imagination. A person is not going to buy into anything that he cannot imagine will be beneficial for himself. When things turn against him his imagination changes to one of self-loathing for being deceived and to imagine ways to change, alter or revenge his way out of the situation he imagined himself into. All these things were imaginary. A government was imagined in how it would operate and what it would achieve. And the people imagined how wonderful it would be. As things progress realities begin to present themselves. As with any relationship there are road signs of good or bad along the way. But people have the tendency to wait until it is too late to address them when going bad. The eventual brake up always being catastrophic.

    One of the most potent of imagination stimulating tools is fear. Fear was in it from the start. The people were fearful and needed to organize for protection and prosperity. So a government was built to organize the people. Then a fear of what would happen without the government ensued. Then toward the end a fear of what would happen to you personally if you interfere or challenge the government is instilled in the minds of each individual resulting in the image of physical or financial pain. Fear mongering is a very powerful tool and works directly on the imagination. Then it turns into a belief…a belief that the fear is very potent and real and in many cases it may very well be. Imagined consequences are powerful deterrents in law and government. Fear and not love is the main stay of power over people. This is the truth and the imagination believes it.

    Where is truth in all this? The people let their imaginations run wild and then allowed complacency to rule the day until it was too late and they lost control of their government that became too rich and powerful on their dollar to now do anything about. Sadly this is simply how it has always worked. All of it an imaginary illusion invented in the mind and living in the mind. There is no government…it is just a loosely organized den of thieves. We projected our imagination onto a bunch of elected officials that we imagined would do our bidding. This goes beyond imagination to delusion: A delusional belief to think that people or a government is going to place you above themselves. This is real truth and it is not pleasant. We imagined what should be right and then imagined that it somehow would be. How has this worked out for us?

    So slowly people are waking up and for government to protect itself now it has to grow as large as possible as fast as possible engulfing in its ranks either by dependency or working for it as much of the population as possible. This is not imagination. This is the truth. The ugly truth.

    So the big question is not where do we find truth but what do we do with it? How do we learn to control our imaginations? How do we learn to harness our fears? How do we learn to not let ourselves get back into this situation again if we do learn how to get out of it?

    My rant for the day.

  8. 29 hammer and nail November 27, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    The left has two foci: Thievery and Genocide
    They’re going to steal IRAs and 401ks, they keep PUSHING abortions on American women who kill their babies at a rate of 17 per hour, while muslims have families of 10 on agerage.
    Obamacare Genocide in a Nutshell:
    It steals grandma’s medicare to pay the illegals’ medicaid and deliver to everyone, substandard yet “equal” care.
    In the USA if you have prostate cancer, your chance of dying is half that of a European prostate cancer patient.
    Obama lies when he says that benefits won’t be cut; the truth is, care provider and hospital reimbursements are cut and thus will be staff cut. This results in a documented (peer reviewed medical journals, NIH) consequence; 35,000 extra deaths per year for seniors, from entirely preventable conditions. Just as many deaths to younger patients as well, from staff cuts resulting in fewer stay days, fewer staff, fewer support staff, dirtier facilities, higher infections, no follow up care.

    In face medical care is de-incentivized to provide excellence, it is PUNISHED for excellence. The cheaper the patient care, no matter if they die, the more the institution is rewarded. Hospitals get a $500,000 fine each time they exceed an amount they are allowed to spend which is tied in with the GDP…since when does the GDP have to do with an epidemic, or disaster or some other health concern in a population?

    Also, doctors are severely punished from accepting extra money on top of their allowance, i.e. if you needed a stent but were too old as deemed by the death panels, you could not pay the doctor to put one in even if you could afford it, UNLESS you were in Congress.

    They don’t want poorer patients to receive any better health care than patients who earned more money.

    So based on the credible peer reviewed scientific studies, Obamacare results in 35,000 extra deaths for seniors per year, and as many for other age groups. Your records will belong to the government. No more patient privacy.

    • 30 heather November 27, 2012 at 10:03 pm

      Barry stole 720 billion from medicare and paid for his hc bill with it.

      The hospitals here have been posting death panels at all the clincal areas of the hospital warning drs and nurses that any patient at age 76 that is diagnosed with any form of cancer will NOT get any treatment-no chem, no radiation, no chemo pills…they will be sent immediately to counselers for end of life care. This has been posted for this entire yr on a monthly basis and forwarded to me via email. This is no joke, no exaggeration, and unless this bill is repealed or defunded all seniors and/or “less disirables” with any form of cancer will not live.

      My gut feeling is, they will expand who they deem unfit to live.

      The congress and senate who oppose this needs to stand firm against this and repeal it.

      When Roberts called it a tax instead of a penalty he never qualified/called this bill as constitutional–he called it a tax only. He left the door open for “someone” to challenge it with them and kill this bill.

      • 31 hammer and nail November 28, 2012 at 12:20 am

        AND it’s set up so even a patient who could afford it cannot pay to get their necessary treatment.

        I foresee rich veterinarians! Or people going out of the country for care, or forever!

        • 32 heather November 28, 2012 at 10:42 pm

          Hammer-yeah I have my spot with my vet set up! He is totally on top of this entire take over and is preparing getting hit with these taxes, a smart business man he is and a glorious compassionate vet as well and will do what is necessary if the time comes…..

          Vets have already been hit by the feds having certain on site pain killers removed from their hospitals leaving them with injectables only. They have had other meds taken away because they WORK and are not regulated by the feds leaving our pets with dangerous side effects all for the drug companies to continue to push their toxic poisons.

          I am so lucky and blessed to have this Christian healer in my life for my babies that are so dear to me.

      • 33 Bildo November 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm

        Another cancer cure besides cannibis is asparagus.

  9. 37 typistjan November 27, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    BEWARE THE PALE HORSE – full length movie – a must see

  10. 44 zekemae November 27, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    I do not mean any disrespect, but it seems like there are some posts demeaning Israel today. I understand that our country does give them aid, but we also give much of the rest of the world our wealth too. Shouldn’t we stand with Israel?

    • 45 nunua November 27, 2012 at 8:18 pm

      God stands with Israel. How much help does a country need?

    • 48 heather November 28, 2012 at 11:02 pm

      Speaking of giving aid to the world—we now can call that redistribution of our tax dollars as well—we pay our enemies — off. And yes we should stand with Israel, they are our eyes and ears in the middle east.

      Barry hates them and only gives them the time of day because he has too and notice that time of day is on his time only!

      • 49 Tenacity November 29, 2012 at 6:28 pm

        Barry is a Luciferian, the same as those banksters controlling the nation of Israel. He works for them. They* have trained him and financed him. They* have fomented EVERY war we have been in and are fomenting the conflicts and potential wars we face now. Who do you think George Soros is? (real name Gyorgy Schwartz) The whole left/right debate is a smoke screen and so is the phony conflict between Barry and Bibi. Barry plays the Muslims just like a good Luciferian. The old divide and conquer game is in full swing. Just remember that EVERYTHING THEY* EVER TOLD US IS A LIE and you won’t get sucked into their propaganda so easily.

  11. 50 nunua November 27, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    37 Thus says the Lord:
    “If the heavens above can be measured,
    and the foundations of the earth below can be explored,
    then I will cast off all the offspring of Israel
    for all that they have done,
    declares the Lord.”

    • 51 nunua November 27, 2012 at 9:31 pm

      So…maybe things have changed?

      • 52 Tenacity November 27, 2012 at 9:58 pm

        nunua, please pay close attention to the posts you reference. Do you understand what a proselyte is? Did you really read the Scriptures mentioned in Matthew 23 and Revelations 2 & 3? Those fomenting zionism today ARE NOT THE OFFSPRING of Scriptural Israel. There is a remnant and it is not in control of any country. All those IN Christ have been grafted into Scriptural/spiritual Israel. Please do not make assumptions about statements without doing your homework and clearly understanding what I or anyone says. This is a very sensitive subject mainly because the masses have been fed a pile of lies all our lives. Discernment requires that we identify the counterfeits and stop believing the lies we are constantly fed from the TV, the movie screens, our govt schools, the Khazarian controlled newspapers, the elite written history books and the infiltrated & sold out pulpits.

        • 53 Tenacity November 27, 2012 at 10:08 pm

          I intended to respond to zekemae instead of nunua.

          • 54 nunua November 28, 2012 at 3:29 pm

            It seems that the bible can be interpreted any way you want. But the one thing that does stand out is that all this is creating hell on earth. And it seems like people want to force or make happen what is in the bible to prove it is right. I don’t get that at all. But there are many things I don’t understand why people choose to believe in so much blood shed.

  12. 56 fireinmysoul November 28, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Too much going on in my life right now. Among the items are problems with my Dell computer which has distracted me from world issues beyond reality. All the tecnical support is in India. While they try their best it is sometimes very difficult communicating with them and after literally three hours on the phone with them, I couldn’t cope. My husband took my place. Problems will not be fixed until this Thursday.

    So much new information coming forward and new directions we are heading. Of course, I –being very opinionated–have my 2 cents worth to contribute. As soon as the technical problems are corrected, my thoughts will return to focusing upon our survival issues–world/American politics.

    • 57 Bildo November 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      Tell them you want to talk to an American, or someone who speaks “English”. They will transfer your call.

      • 58 nunua November 28, 2012 at 3:38 pm

        I spent 3 hours with a very nice man from India fixing my buddies new Dell. I am very patient and look at everything as a learning experience. It is hard for me to think badly of a man in a foreign country that speaks English enough to have a conversation with. I sure can’t do it in his language. I question what it is that is making us all hate each other so much. Or should I say creating the dissensions. I did enjoy learning about where he lived, his dating history and about the women there. I love to travel and meet women in other countries. Of course he had a sister he wanted me to meet?!?!? LOL. In the end we just did a simple back in time reset and that resolved the issue. Actually I kicked myself not not doing that in the first place. Oh well…shame on me.

        • 59 Ann November 28, 2012 at 7:45 pm

          Maybe it’s because they sent their business to another country and not the U. S. so we take it out on the employees? Personally, I have a hard time understanding them which is frustrating. Most of us are stressed out in the first place so that just adds to the stress and frustration. I’m speaking from personal experience and can’t comment for others obviously. I have a HP computer and haven’t had to call customer service [yet]. They may also speak with an accent though so I’ll be forewarned. lol

        • 62 Kathy November 28, 2012 at 8:43 pm

          Maybe you should ask all the unemployed former Dell Employees in Oklahoma how they feel. I personally think they are stealing our money and selling us junk products. It’s horrible customer service to sell a computer to somone in the US and then expect them to understand your jibberish! The corporate GREED needs to stop and we need to demand that these jobs come back to the USA. The problem is that we are so far gone, that we don’t have anyone making stuff here anymore. The greedy elite are doing a great job of turning us into a 3rd world country. When will Americans wake up?

          • 63 Ann November 28, 2012 at 10:14 pm

            Unfortunately or fortunately, depends on how you look at it, we can’t tell the owners of private companies what to do with their money. I agree that it’s a shame but until they cut out the unnecessary regulations and other stupid crap here in the U.S. we’re stuck with outsourced customer service reps.

            • 64 Tenacity November 28, 2012 at 10:32 pm

              When I have demanded to speak to someone in the U.S., I have been accommodated and the employees within the U.S. really appreciate it going overboard to take care of me.

            • 65 sky November 29, 2012 at 7:06 am

              regulations are what Obama and the epa,unions,rothschilds and the Banksters are to tell what the corporations what to do,and if they do as told they get a pay bonus,and if they give money to these people during election they get another bonus.We have the biggest world ponzi scheme going on in the world.Their are all involved in backing treason,including our goverment,military,and state goverment. prowlingowl.com

          • 66 heather November 28, 2012 at 11:12 pm

            Speaking of Oklahoma, today I heard that the Canadian pipeline that was to go through Cushing was stopped–thanks barry—I am sure he had something to do with this–he didnt want this pipeline to begin with and when he came to Cushing last spring and our governor and Attorney General were no shows to welcome him, he was pissed–there was 5 college democrat kids there and the mayor of the town!

            I guess this is more revenge from him. And now that our governor refuses to sign onto the hc bill and medicaid, I bet we are in for a long 4 yrs of chemtrails and haarp storms.

            • 67 drkate November 28, 2012 at 11:36 pm

              Better to stand than to capitulate. Its what we have to do, call their bluff. If the NWO destroys us they have no more profit. Cuz we ain’t going down without a serious fight.

      • 69 fireinmysoul November 29, 2012 at 9:28 am

        Heather, I am not certain of your question, but I agree with Drk. It is better to go down fighting then herded like sheep. Either way we are in the fight for our lives.

        There are a couple of other states following Oklahoma. As word gets out, I am certain more states will follow. I totally support these states. However, I live in California –home of the biggest assholes in the counntry–Nancy Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Barabara Boxer, Gerry Brown, the one with the pig-like nose whose name escapes me. Let us not forget the limousine liberal celebrities who thinkt is is the crowning glory of their careers to be associated with the PRESIDENT–even if he is a usurper.

        Part of what weakned America–I suspect–is affluence. Standing up and being counted means taking a risk of losing everything. I once had such hopes for Trump. What a wimp he turned out to be. He couldn’t live without all his wealth.

        Before it is over, they will lose just about everything they acquired. I wonder if the limousince libs supported Obama because they know what is coming and imagine their support of Barry will protect them from the harm most are about to suffer? Times are so very strange when people don’t make choices in their own best interest.

        I think we all need to start listing what are our choices–politically and personally. We also need to start making fight or flee plans. This regime is moving at the speed of lightening. They have had to suppress themselves for years. Now that they are in power they can’t wait to destroy us. They are attacking everything that is Judeo/Christain/American that we love. When it comes down to:–saying Merry Christmas if offensive! They are out for blood–our blood.

        What is really pitiful is that it is true America has made mistatkes around the world and in its own country. These mistatkes were not done by its citizens but by its pollitical leaders. The worst mistake the citizens made was trusting its leaders. However–it is the citizens who are being harmed and not the traitors in office. Another example of upside down activities in these confusing times.

        • 70 heather November 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm

          Agree 100%–

          btw–I meant did you change your name from USA to fireinmysoul?

          • 71 fireinmysoul November 29, 2012 at 6:39 pm

            That is a matter of technical issue. Once upon a time I was going to use that name as a web site. Why–I don’t know–I never got it off the ground. There were too many other items demanding my attention. I have never been able to remove it from the inter net and it comes up once in awhile. I prefer to use Usapatriots-shout.

            Well after another grueling 2.5 hours I think I have thhe problems with the computer resolved–for now at least.

    • 73 nunua November 28, 2012 at 5:54 pm

      What makes sense is that in a black operation the players know that they are on their own. The “compound” was just a nice house that the CIA rented. The stand down was issued to not draw attention to the USA involvement in what ever it is they were doing. Some say weapons running some say assassination plotting. What ever it is there was a leak and they got hit. The truth hurts but this is it plain and simple. You would think they would have had a much better cover story than a video. This story came from no place other than the WH. But what ever it was you can bet it was a legal black operation. How they make that stuff legal I don’t know…they leave that up to the attorneys. This story line makes total sense of it all. Possibly even the truth cuz it sure rings of it.

    • 74 Ann November 28, 2012 at 7:51 pm

      Good ole’ common sense, a rarety these days. Most of us here have it and can figure out what’s going on but the corrupt media & WH think we’re a bunch of airheads. How wrong they are!

  13. 77 jane November 29, 2012 at 7:32 am

    If you have Blue Cross Blue Shield insurance, your premiums may double this coming year! Read that on Commieblaster this morning….guess I won’t be insured.

    • 78 heather November 29, 2012 at 1:43 pm

      Everyone that has private insurance through their employer will have higher premiums to pay for the “have nots” and those same “have nots” pay nothing!

      If you don’t keep the insurance you have, you will automatically be thrown into the govt exchange–hence the federal camp. Better to keep your insurance for as long as you can because the feds will make your life miserable while putting you on that long waiting list and chances are, per kathleen sebelus you may not warrent medical care since now her so called team of experts are deciding what care you will or will not get.

  14. 79 Tiger 7 November 29, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Will the truth ever come out as to the Libyan murders ? I surely hope so, but I’ve been wrong on everything thus far. It’s deja vu once again with bho—just obscure the truth with a series of different stories. Just like his background stories. Tell enough differing tales and have questioners going in circles. As far as Libya is concerned the weapons transfer, botched kidnapping, whatever is being totally diluted by the cover-up of the cover-up of the cover-up–there may even be more cover-ups yet to surface.

  15. 80 Voco Indubium November 29, 2012 at 11:57 am

    A friend sent this. Have not researched if true. Some of you may know more about it.

    “This takes the cake!!!!

    This, like many things, is just not the way it is supposed to be.
    Children of congress member do not have to pay back their college student loans. How nice!

    Monday on Fox news they learned that the staffers of Congress family members are exempt from having to pay back student loans. This will get national attention if other news networks will broadcast it. When you add this to the below, just where will all of it stop?

    35 States file lawsuit against the Federal Government
    Governors of 35 states have filed suit against the Federal Government for imposing unlawful burdens upon them. It only takes 38 (of the 50)
    States to convene a Constitutional Convention.

    This will take less than thirty seconds to read. If you agree, please pass it on.

    This is an idea that we should address.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that members of Congress could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform… in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    If each person that receives this will forward it on to 20 people, in three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one proposal that really should be passed around.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .”

    • 81 Bildo November 30, 2012 at 10:54 am

      “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States .”

      If you are not a voluntary member of Corp US, nothing they do applies to you anyways. Don’t be a US citizen/person, don’t reside in a “Federal Territory”. Stop being a “taxpayer”.
      Every “law” they pass only applies to the above mentioned persons. Just get out of that jurisdiction. Learn who you are and who you are not.

  16. 83 hammer and nail November 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Do you ever listen to what certain celebrities say, that they “become” an inner persona, Beyonce said so, Mariah Carey becomes “Mimi”…I always wonder where some of these so-so talents come from. I think they “can” sing but they’re not all that, they’re built up into a status they don’t deserve. Beyonce is despicable grotesque amoral rapper and sings like a wolf in heat sometimes. Anyway, I’m alluding to NLP, Neurolinguistic Programming, which Obama used in his 2008 speeches, commanding the left side of the IQ bell curve to vote for him (that’s why they’re called lefties)…

    ++++++++

    This woman talks about how she was a sex worker coerced by techniques used from Project Paper Clip.
    “I’m not sure exactly when my programming began. I suspect that, like many others before me, my programming began in early childhood. My father was a top German research scientist during World War II, but immigrated to the Unitd States as a part of Project Paperclip. Project Paperclip was an above “top secret” military program where the U.S. allowed some of the top minds of Hitler’s Third Reich to come to the states rather than face war crimes charges. In exchange for their amnesty, they gave up all manner of secret research which the Nazis had been working on during the war.

    I’m not exactly sure what type of information my father researched, but I’m sure it was something dark and sinister – he neer, ever spoke of his work at home. All in all, he was just glad to be out of Germany after the Reich fell and without having to suffer the displeasure of a war crime trial and subsequent prosecution. Like a lot of Germans at the time, I’m sure he was “just following orders” with whatever he had started working on there and then continued after coming to America.

    So I believe, due to the nature of the research he was doing, my programming was administered via agents of the Unitd States government. Maybe my father knew and was forced to allow it to happen to save his job and his very life. Some of my earliest memories of my schooling regard my being taken out of class to another room – I think it was a windowless room adjacent to the library – and being shown different objects and pictures. Most of it is still pretty foggy. I think this was either the early beginnings of the programming, or perhaps some sort of training or testing sessions so it could be determined how well I was becoming programmed.

    At a very young age, I began experiencing “night terrors” and would often wake up screaming. I also have vague memories of bieng pinned to my bed, being unable to move…”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    http://www.infowars.com/inmate-james-holmes-told-me-he-was-programmed-to-kill-by-evil-therapist/

    “Joker inmate James Holmes told me he was programmed to kill by evil therapist…”

    • 84 heather November 29, 2012 at 1:36 pm

      Beyonnce is barrys bfgf! She is despicable alright, sure maybe she can RAP and shake her fat butt but she is a pig, along with madonna,gaga and the rest who get to where they are by striping and sex and drugs. All I can say is they better enjoy their “stardom” now, because come judgement day they will be in the line going south!

  17. 85 heather November 29, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    http://godfatherpolitics.com/8321/hobby-lobby-takes-on-the-obama-administration-and-the-federal-government/#ixzz2Dd4gkq86

    These owners always come to the rescue in this state when it falls short or help is needed–they have grown this business from the ground up–and yes, they built this business by themselves and it thrives and has everything you need to decorate your home with massive gifts for everyone–it is an awesome store.

    • 88 Durus November 29, 2012 at 4:55 pm

      I don’t think Paul could have been any clearer when he said:

      Ga 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
      Ga 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

  18. 89 no-nonsense-nancy November 29, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    This is a very good article by Doug Hagmann on Benghazi in canada free press.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51400

  19. 90 heather November 29, 2012 at 9:09 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2239705/Robocod-Homeland-Security-adds-underwater-drones-arsenal-robots-based-fish.html

    So much for our trillions and trillions dollar debt–how much does this add to it along with unneeded drones–as a matter of fact we don’t need homeland security we have to many agencies now–this is duplication again and again,

  20. 92 no-nonsense-nancy November 29, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Christians need to sto this nonsense from going on in our schools once and for all. School authorities need to learn the constitution. The “Establishment” clause, prohibiting the name God to be allowed in our schools? Am I missing somethng here? I’m studying the constitution continually and I never heard of it.

    http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/school-orders-child-to-remove-god-from-poem.html

    • 93 usapatriots-shout November 30, 2012 at 9:36 am

      I finally understand where we are at. THE US CONSTITUTION IS WHAT BARRY SAYS IT IS. THE 9 DISHONARABLES ARE THERE TO MAKE HIS WORD SO.

      • 94 sky November 30, 2012 at 4:49 pm

        TREASON WAKE UP,The real HERO OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS,and what they would do,is the PUNISHMENT OF TREASON NOW,TO ANY ONE WHO AGREES.ENOUGH SAID.

        • 95 nunua November 30, 2012 at 6:08 pm

          What we are seeing with supposed illegal acts…would be acts committed under a constitutional Republic. Since we now have a De Facto Con-unistic Democracy and the 3 branches have usurped their oath to support the Constitution they have passed enough laws to cover BO as legal for anything he does. Pulse in a Black Ops CIA operation no one is to know about it and the agents involved know that. They are effectively on their own. In fact of truth…if they wanted…the CIA could bring the dead up on charges for braking cover by soliciting help. This was not an American consulate and it had nothing to do with America…legally. Welcome to black ops.

    • 96 Bildo November 30, 2012 at 11:11 am

      Christians need to get their children out of the Corp indoctrination centers. As a matter of fact, everyone should. The system cannot be fixed.

      • 97 usapatriots-shout November 30, 2012 at 11:25 am

        We need a step by step blue print onprecisely how to do this. It must be in a language a 12 year old child can understan d it.

        • 98 Bildo November 30, 2012 at 6:29 pm

          Google: homeschooling. Also join sites that can educate you as to how to fight them when they come after you for doing this. My kids are already graduated from the system. Some states have different things that you have to do. Join this site:
          http://sovereignwarriors.ning.com/
          I’m Bildo on that site, too.
          Once you learn how they got control over our children, you’ll be able to pull them out with no repercussions. You also have to learn how to protect yourself since you will be getting out of the system first. I say first because you will be putting your children’s birth certificates on YOUR UCC-1 financing statement. That will hold until they are 18 and can then do their own. UCC-1 also makes you tax exempt when you take it into your employer.
          A buddy of mine only did “Acceptance of the Deed” on his daughter’s BC then yanked her out of school. She’s still being homeschooled. There is a bit of a compromise to make sometimes. He did allow the social worker from the school to come out to the house once a month for 6 months. That’s all done now.
          The confidence has to come from within you to do this. If you go to the above site, you will be surprised.
          Probably the fastest and easiest way is to listen/watch Dean Clifford. He is definitely not boring.
          http://www.time4thetruth.info/p/dean-c-clifford_16.html
          Scroll down to T4TT Exclusive Part One. Believe me, this guy is good.
          You can also contact me at bill_wiethaup@hotmail.com. It’s easier to converse that way. Be assured in knowing that there is an actual blueprint for getting out of U.S. without having to move anywhere. (This has nothing to do with the Republic that I usually squawk about)

  21. 100 heather November 29, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2240075/Now-sick-babies-death-pathway-Doctors-haunting-testimony-reveals-children-end-life-plan.html#ixzz2DcUKj73D

    it’s there in england and coming here after all barry fashioned his hc bill after englands–this is the beginning of not only seniors, but the these poor helpless babies and next it will be the disabled and the handicapped right here in the USA.

    • 101 no-nonsense-nancy November 30, 2012 at 6:15 am

      I could barely read that article. I had to force myself to finish it. I guess it is all to save money. It is the evil banksters who got the world into such an economical mess and now they have to eliminate the older population and tiny babies who are so expensive. Cut out all of the beaurocrates and let the people live!

  22. 102 jayjay November 29, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Is this why congress is trying to remove ‘indefinite detention’ from the NDAA bill? What are they afraid of?
    Is this why generals and admirals have been fired? Which side were they on?
    Is this why FEMA had no food, water, and supplies for Sandy victims?Saving for a bigger event??
    Was this why the kidnapping attempt of Ambassador Stevens was botched in Benghazi? To rile the public for support of a coup?

    AIPAC, decapitators inside US government (for Coup Attempt)

    • 103 heather November 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm

      This is so unthinkable that its hard to believe.

      • 104 nunua November 30, 2012 at 6:17 pm

        Heather: When looking for facts or truth you must take belief out of the equation. Believing means you don’t know in fact. Because if it were fact then there would be no reason for belief. Go with what you know and apply it to what is making the most sense. I true conspiracy advocate never looks for anything to believe. He simply looks at everything with an open mind.

  23. 105 typistjan November 29, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    God help us if hillary is slotted to be the next pres. she will continue here what she started all over the mid-east

  24. 110 typistjan November 30, 2012 at 1:22 am

    Censorship of web sites increasing
    Great article by Devy, also a link at the bottom to read how the DOJ follows everyone

    http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd562.htm

  25. 111 Voco Indubium November 30, 2012 at 2:33 am

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/romney-foiled-by-computers-consultants/

    This is amazing. The political analysts, gurus, consultants and other experts supposedly blessed with superior intelligence, are blaming the GOP’s loss on computers, consultants, improper implementation of contacting the voters etc.

    On this very site, several readers, including myself, predicted nearly a year ago, that the GOP will lose unless they use the eligibility. Not only that they ignored our advice, but Romney disappointed many conservatives when he failed to place the Benghazi-blame, in the “third debate”, where it belongs.

    The GOP is incompetent. They proved that in 2008 and now again. A third party is needed. Before the election we were leaning to listen to the argument that a 3rd party would mean Dem’s victory. Some of us were hoping that RP will leave the GOP and create a 3rd party. Well, he did not, and the result is identical to the result what would happen if he did.

    With one difference, the new constitutional party would have received sizable votes, and perhaps won some House-seats. The House would form a coalition between the GOP and “RP-party”. The Executive Branch would have been as it is now, but the 3rd party would be able to reverse or at least moderate the current trend of ignoring the constitution by both the Dems and the GOP.

    Tell me if I am wrong, and tell me why.

    • 112 Tenacity November 30, 2012 at 7:48 am

      How many 3rd parties were there in this election? How many votes did Gary Johnson garner? How many votes did Romney lose by? Do you honestly believe that any of the votes that Obama got would have gone to a different 3rd party candidate? Do you honestly believe that a majority of the GOP votes would have gone to Ron Paul if he had been the 3rd party candidate? Do you believe the vote count was accurate?

      No petition for redress of grievance or 3rd party effort will be successful at the national level until we break the banking/taxing vortex. We must withdraw consent from the counterfeit federal god and restore the organic constitutional republic. Breaking the taxing/banking vortex by instituting Sound Money at the state level will facilitate that as well.

      Look at the reality of the Tea Party. It has effectively been mental masturbation. In the absence of a functional media outlet seeking and reporting truth, you will never amass enough cohesive support to win an election, IF you could hold an honest election. The only ways I know of to get an honest election and/or control one good (saturating) media outlet is to either break the banking/taxing vortex within a State or water the tree of liberty.

      • 113 sky November 30, 2012 at 8:36 am

        bushes Clintons world crimials popular news column beforeitsnews

      • 115 Voco Indubium November 30, 2012 at 12:47 pm

        Ten, thank you for answering. I very much appreciate a good exchange of thoughts and ready to change my mind if convinced that I was wrong.

        RE: “How many 3rd parties were there in this election? How many votes did Gary Johnson garner? “

        You cannot compare a giant (RP) to a midget (GJ). RP had very sizable support.

        RE: “Do you honestly believe that any of the votes that Obama got would have gone to a different 3rd party candidate? “

        No, but my point is, that the conservative-vote would have been split between RP and Romney. However, there would be no difference who sits in the Oval Room, but in 2016 there could be a difference and some House-seats could have been picked up by the RP-party now. Forming a coalition with the GOP but slowing down the erosion of the constitution.

        RE: “Do you believe the vote count was accurate?”

        Of course, not. But the vote-fraud was predictable, if memory serves, Troy, at this very website, predicted it long time ago. (So if Troy could predict it – why the GOP could not?) So the GOP has to count that a percentage of votes, say 10% or whatever, is unavoidably lost as long the Regime is in power. So in order to win the popular vote the GOP has to have say 60%. To achieve that, in the current political climate, it is not possible, without disqualifying the opponent (by Benghazi or eligibility).

        RE: “ No petition for redress of grievance or 3rd party effort will be successful at the national level until we break the banking/taxing vortex. We must withdraw consent from the counterfeit federal god and restore the organic constitutional republic. Breaking the taxing/banking vortex by instituting Sound Money at the state level will facilitate that as well. “

        Agree 100%. But these are just very good philosophical thoughts. Nothing happens without the reality of a goneverment that is at least slows down the deterioration of the constitution.

        RE: “Look at the reality of the Tea Party. It has effectively been mental ….. “

        Agree 100%. But a 3rd party by RP would have a chance in 2016. Now, the end result would have been the same, as I pointed out: O in WH, House in coalition with GOP, Senate dominated by Dems as before.

        The GOP is incompetent – no way how you look at it. They had all the tools in their hand to win the, they chose not to use them. Romney’s single focus on jobs were inadequate – almost to the point of boring. The tragic events of Benghazi alone would have knocked out the opponent from the ring, and the package of various items, as gift from Sheriff Joe, would have disqualified him.

        And what is the GOP doing about organizing an objection for the Elector’s Confirmation Hearing on Jan 9, say based on the election fraud (if their noble feelings don’t let them touch the eligibility)?

        You tell me. I see nothing. (At least nothing public. And if secret, why the secrecy?) That would be action, not only true and beautiful philosophy.

  26. 118 Durus November 30, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    “Joe Biden was in Costco and he wanted to buy some of this stuff, but I told him he had too much work to do. I wasn’t going to have him building roller coasters all day long. Now, of course, Santa delivers everywhere. I’ve been keeping my own naughty and nice list for Washington, so you should keep your eye on who gets some K’NEX this year. There are going to be some members of Congress who get them, and some who don’t,” President Obama said Friday at a rally where he pushed Congress to avoid the fiscal cliff.

    Read more:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/11/30/obama_warns_congress_ive_been_keeping_my_own_naughty_and_nice_list_for_washington.html

    • 119 no-nonsense-nancy November 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm

      I was down the street from K’Nex today with about 50 people protesting his appearance there promoting his tax proposal. Then I went to a press conference hosted by a business owner in his factory. He gave a great talk and as soon as it is on you tube I’ll share it here. He was very impressive. The state president of the PA Chamber of Commerce was there and spoke as well as some other state officials. All business owners are worried, as we know.

  27. 120 drkate November 30, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    OT–should Obama be impeached over Benghazi? 62% say yes! TAKE THIS POLL!

    http://offers.humanevents.com/offers/offer.php?id=POLLBZ003

    • 121 sky November 30, 2012 at 4:52 pm

      DR KATE HE DOESNT NEED TO BE IMPEACHED,HE is involved in TREASON,along with who ever backs him. THE TRUTH & Nothing But THE TRUTH.SO HELP ME GOD.

      • 122 drkate November 30, 2012 at 4:58 pm

        Agree. Impeachment is for real presidents, too. And now we need to focus on getting him out whatever way we can. Benghazi was treason. so let’s get the evidence out so that even the democrat senate will have to vote to impeach.

        • 123 sky November 30, 2012 at 5:32 pm

          the only thing to be done KATE is for the secret service and the military to do their job and get rid of him or lock him up with a bounch of cobra snakes from the middle east or asia.

          • 124 drkate November 30, 2012 at 5:37 pm

            Agree. I think the military were trying but got outed after Benghazi. Why so many generals losing their jobs? Now they will have to regroup. In the meantime it is important that we keep up the pressure and not get distracted.

            • 125 sky November 30, 2012 at 6:03 pm

              There are secret service with him everyday,the military is near by,treason is being done every second he is in the white house with the carzs.Americans dead on american soil from mexican illegals,giving guns to the cartels and letting them grow drugs here.Worlds biggest job is drugs,money laudering,and wars to protect it.Have you heard of the 150 year opion trade with the monarchy from england?The S&L stealing from the taxpayer,largest in the world?Now the banks getting america’s tarp money around the world,for JP MORGAN CHASE,BANK OF AMERICA,GOLDMANSACHS.etc.WE DONT OWE ANYONE ! PENNY OF DEBT.TIME TO CLEAN UP D.C.

              • 126 nunua November 30, 2012 at 6:46 pm

                Con-gress borrowed the money. Let con-gress get a real job and pay it back…you know…like we all have too. Obama wants another 2 trillion and there is a bill starting that will take the ceiling off of spending because it takes to long to appropriate and this may be a defense issue or some BS like that. This is just the start.

            • 127 Voco Indubium November 30, 2012 at 6:13 pm

              DrKate,

              RE: Impeachment on Benghazi

              The first step is voting by the simple majority of the House. You are right that is maybe achievable. At that point he can still stay in office.

              However, 2/3 of Senate’s vote is needed for removal. As the majority of the Senate is in lockstep with him, the chances of actual removal are low or nonexistent. However, even the first step could be useful.

              Counting on the military is unrealistic. The high-brass are cowardly bureaucrats, not heroes. Let’s not forget how they treated Dr. Lakin.

              • 128 sky November 30, 2012 at 6:18 pm

                Isnt about the saying if we live in fear of the goverment it is tyranny,if they fear us its LIBERTY So THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE MUST DO NOW.GOD BLESS AMERICA.

              • 129 drkate November 30, 2012 at 6:20 pm

                I’ve never counted on the military. I do know that something was afoot, however, and Obama found out and fired those and probably a host of other people we don’t know enough.

                The first step on impeachment will be important no matter the outcome. But I don’t believe Congress has the guts. Nevertheless its important to vote in a poll like this now so they don’t forget how we feel and what we see.

                • 130 sky November 30, 2012 at 6:36 pm

                  dr Kate its the first step of treason,obama isnt our president.he is a usuper guilty of treason,and what did the founding fathers says about usuper and treason?PLEASE QUIT USING IMPEACHMENT,that way he will never be guilty.BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HE IS GUILTY.DONT FORGET FORT HOOD.and other unexplained deaths.

                • 134 sky November 30, 2012 at 6:56 pm

                  I would like to see a vote that obama is under house arrest till he comes clean on all records,No vacations for the congress,secret service,military,till they start singing about the treason that is being done to this country.& No more bonuses on banksters,and a clear audit on all banks & the FED,and the Rothschilds,and if they dont, get the hell out of those banks.Then a vote to END THE CORRUPT FED,and LET the rothschilds pay the world debt.Corporations need to come clean,on their offshore accounts.No more Foreign Aid till this is done.

                • 135 Voco Indubium November 30, 2012 at 7:50 pm

                  Agree.

                  If enough pressure is placed on the House by the public they might do it. But who is going to organize the pressure? Need a highly visible political figure. No one comes to mind who is likely to be persuaded, unless Trump steps up. But with his latest move (the offering the bet, when he knows that the money is safe), his credibility is not the highest.

                  The state department employees should be terribly upset. Their own government is refusing to protect them. Why is the US spending billions on the military, if a two-bit terrorist can go around unpunished and murder ambassadors? Would it not be Hillary’s job to protect her people?

                  It looked for a moment that the Clintons will jump off the ship, but when they saw that Romney is losing they changed their minds.

              • 136 heather November 30, 2012 at 11:28 pm

                Remember Clinton was impeached and refused to resign! WTH they should have just arrested him and barry needs to be convicted of every crime he has committed.

                • 137 drkate December 1, 2012 at 1:27 am

                  No, he was not convicted in the senate so got to remain in office. Impeachment starts in the house, it is tried by the senate

          • 138 Bildo November 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm

            I’d rather see him working at Wal-Mart and trying to make it on those wages.

        • 139 heather November 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm

          He is aiding our enemies and that alone is treason!

  28. 141 Bildo November 30, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    What office/branch, or agency, in the defacto, has the arrest power to arrest the pres? Flood them with e-mail and snail mail. Call ‘em.
    Get everyone to file a “personal lawsuit” against him. Start getting them for breach of oath. I think that would be under Title 42. You can do this to any Public Official, all the way down to your local cops, judges, etc. All these cretins have oaths of office. Nail ‘em for it. BTW, speeding, stop signs, peeing in your yard, etc, are all just statutes, not law. You can Title 42 ‘em anytime they are trying to get you for a statute. I’m still looking at how to do this, exactly. I normally try to stay away from lawyers, but money talks. These 42′s, I believe, also take care of the damages paid out, by them, because they caused you injury. so a lawyer could take out a chunck. 33% I think it is. But they love $$$$$, so maybe that could be tried.

  29. 143 Kathy November 30, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/11/30/cbs-radio-building-hit-by-gunfire/

    Looking at those windows, I would say that Pete Schulte was the target. Look at his bio in this link. I wonder if he was working on an electronic election fraud case?? Suspicious…………
    http://www.peteschulte.com/

    snip…..
    Pete is licensed as an attorney and counselor at law in the States of Texas and Colorado. His practice focuses on the areas of Criminal Defense, Elections Law (including Ethics Commission Rules & Regulations), Personal Criminal History Information Management (Non-Disclosures, Expunctions), and Family Law.

    snip……..
    Pete eventually began to investigate Computer Crimes for the McKinney, Texas Police Department, where under Pete’s leadership, the McKinney Police Department became one of the first police departments in North Texas to have the software and tools to handle their own cases involving electronic evidence. Many other police departments began to rely on Pete to help them in investigations that required the acquisition of electronic evidence. Today, Pete continues to be one of the few attorneys that understand how to handle cases involving electronic evidence. Other attorneys from across the country have sought advice and counsel from Pete regarding cases that involve the search and seizure of electronic evidence.

    • 144 drkate November 30, 2012 at 10:49 pm

      …so who occupied one of two possible offices above or below the 5th floor…gotta wonder what the underlying story is…?

  30. 145 typistjan December 1, 2012 at 5:14 am

    Executive Order 13491 Shut down all CIA detention facilities in 2009 by Obama
    Bengazi was a detention facility for the CIA ??? The prisoners were released to Libya prior to the start of the shooting.

    Dr. Laurie Roth Archives from 11-30-12 – hour 1. In hour 2 more of Treason Charges with Lt. Cmdr Walt Fitzpatrick (see 11-29- part 2 for first part of Treason Charges)

    http://therothshow.com/show-archives/november-2012/

  31. 149 Quantum Leap December 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    Read Ron Paul’s full statement below.

    “By making ‘recess’ appointments to the Consumer Financial Protection Board (CFPB) and the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) when Congress is not actually in recess, President Obama has acted in clear disregard of the Constitution.

    “And the President must be called to account for his actions.

    “It is disappointing that a former constitutional law professor does not understand that the President is not a dictator or a king who can simply ignore the Constitution whenever he feels frustrated by the system of checks and balances wisely put in place by our Founders.

    “I have opposed unconstitutional power grabs by Presidents of both parties throughout my Congressional career, and this consistency leaves me as the only Republican candidate with the credibility and the record to challenge President Obama on his continuous overstepping of his constitutional boundaries.

    “If the President insists on behaving in such a cavalier manner with regard to requirements set forth by the Constitution, then action by Congress may become necessary to rein in his flagrant contempt for the rules

  32. 151 Quantum Leap December 1, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    Obamalamadingdong is diggin his own hole. Wait and see.

    Presidential candidate Ron Paul has likened Barack Obama’s decision to make appointments to high office without Senate confirmation to the actions of a dictator, pointing out that it is a flagrant violation of the constitution.


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