Standing with Lt. Col. Terry Lakin

©2010 drkate

Usurper v USA

Ironic, isn’t it, when we as Americans have standing to be punished, but not enough standing to ask about our own National Security and its jeopardy under the Obama regime. So is the case of Lt. Col Terry Lakin, whose only ‘crime’ is that he asked that his orders be verified as legal.

In a packed military court room at the Ft. Meade complex in Maryland, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin steadfastly faced  Court Martial trial proceedings with family, friends and Patriots standing with him.  Undeterred by the weight of the charges, LTC Lakin and his attorney, Neal Puckett, deftly executed a strategy that left the government prosecutors red-eared and shaken by the magnitude of their own mistakes and inability to articulate a valid claim.

Recall that Judge Denise Lind, presiding over the Court Martial, denied LTC Lakin an opportunity for discovery and told him literally to ‘get another defense’.   This decision is in my view reversible error as the Judge offered no legal reason why Obama’s records could not be retrieved except that they would be ’embarassing’.  Based on what knowledge, and what law, Col. Lind?

And to that challenge, LTC Lakin and Attorney Puckett certainly rose to the occasion.

Piling On

The military’s charges against LTC Lakin are two fold:

  • That LTC Lakin ‘missed movement’ by not reporting to Ft. Campbell for deployment to Afghanistan
  • That LTC Lakin disobeyed a number of orders.  This charge contained at least four ‘elements’ which appear to this author to be ‘piling on’ charges that carry long sentences.

Because Judge Lind denied LTC Lakin’s right to discovery and evidence, the only possible outcome for LTC Lakin on the second charge–disobeying orders–was to plead guilty.  Essentially he would lose this argument because he was denied the right to discovery, with each charge carrying a two year prison term.

Judge Lind carefully went through each of the second group charges, painstakingly asking each time whether LTC Lakin understood the ramifications of disobeying these orders.  Lakin described the anguish involved in his decision, yet accepted responsibility for his final course of action.  On balance, this discussion between the Judge and LTC Lakin revealed Lakin’s extensive efforts to alert his Chain of Command as to his concerns, and the failure of the Chain of Command to address them.  This is the reason he invited his own Court Martial–it may be one of the only ways to reveal Obama’s problems on proving his eligibility for office.

The second charge had its components ‘collapsed’, and when sentenced, LTC Lakin could face a maximum of 18 months in prison.  NO SENTENCING DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.

Missing Movement

“Missing movement” is a military term of art describing the movement of troops aboard a military aircraft, a ship, or other event where unit of soldiers moves into the war theater.

To this charge, LTC Lakin pleaded ‘not guilty’, and asked for a jury to hear the case.  A jury was assembled consisting of initially ten senior officers; through questioning, two were excluded.

For this charge, Lakin is accused of missing a commercial airline flight from Baltimore to Ft. Campell.  As attorney Neal Puckett pointed out, however, Lakin could have traveled to Ft Campell in any manner he chose.  Prosecution witness after witness divulged to Attorney Puckett that no one gave Lakin a direct order to take a commercial airline flight to his next duty position, as his orders allowed him to travel in any manner to Ft. Campell.

Additional injury to the government’s case was to come, as it was revealed in cross examination that the actual deployment of troops was going to occur three-four months after Lakin was called to Ft. Campbell.  Thus, LTC Lakin did not ‘miss movement’

Painstakingly asking each of the six prosecution witnesses as to the schedule, timing, deployment, and general practice of deploying troops to a war theater, Attorney Puckett demolished the ‘missing movement’ charge.

The Government Introduces Obama’s Ineligibility

Recall that the government would rather bury LTC Lakin on a bunch of piled on charges than address the issue of Obama’s ineligibility.  In what can be termed as a little ‘divine intervention’ the fifth government witness actually stated the reason why LTC Lakin refused his orders–Obama’s eligibility.  You should have seen the prosecution shut that lady down right away!  “next”…  😆

241 Responses to “Standing with Lt. Col. Terry Lakin”

  1. 1 cort wrotnowski December 14, 2010 at 11:51 pm

    By far THE BEST article on the trial I have read yet. You beat Maureen Dowd HANDS DOWN! Your factual and fairly detailed recounting of events puts a completely different spin on this from all the other articles I have read.

    It was astonishing to read that dismembering the prosecution turned on such simple facts. Wow.

    Still, LTC Lakin is in a bad position. Why Judge Lind is not challenged more directly and persistently on the stupidity of her prior rulings is something I don’t get. Regardless, they are the experts and we get to follow the bouncing ball.

  2. 2 Tenacity December 15, 2010 at 12:42 am

    Thank you for the excellent play by play. No doubt that Puckett was fighting a huge up hill battle in this Kangaroo Courts Martial. It seems wise that he has elected to choose his battles, give up a ding he was sure to lose and not give the momentum of one conviction to the jury’s deliberation. That ding on Lakin’s credibility serves to limit his punishment by allowing the court and the jury to save face by saying, “yes he was guilty but these other charges are suspect.” We will see if that strategy pays off.

    First rate report…Thanks again Kate!

  3. 3 Debbie G December 15, 2010 at 1:56 am

    What really sucks is the whole court system…they will try to ware everyone out…they will pospone till nobody shows up and then whammY!!! WE NEED TO RECRUIT the people from ft. meade to be there for EVERY hearing…But how do we find them?

  4. 4 Debbie G December 15, 2010 at 2:06 am

    Oh My and SUPER article of what happened Drkate!!!!

  5. 5 Jan December 15, 2010 at 2:50 am

    Dr. Kate, thank you so much for being there. Thank you for this great first class report. I have not read any others yet because I knew yours would be the truth. The rest of them will probably raise my blood pressure.

    Thank you again and God Bless You!!!!!!!!

    • 6 heather December 15, 2010 at 1:58 pm

      Jan–right—I have read Dr Kates and the others and of course they were all spin—right in line and in favor of barry boy.

    • 8 heather December 15, 2010 at 2:10 pm

      Rich-thanks for the beautiful video. I am afraid as I have said before that there is so many corrupt criminals who have infiltrated our govt for so many years while we the people trusted these liars to represent us that we may never gain back our country and our constitution. There has been great destruction before barry and for the past 2 yrs with him, so much more.

      But I must admit that he did us all a favor–he did wake the sleeping giant and now we are wide awake and must fight back.

      We have tried to fight without a war, and fought by our laws of the constitution, and now its time to bring every military member home so they can stand with us and take back what we have left and start anew. It will take years to rebuild our nation the way it was given to us by our founders, and if we don’t do this now we lose everything that we have all worked for.

      These greedy criminals need to learn and know that we will never stand for their tyranny.

  6. 9 Paula December 15, 2010 at 6:39 am

    Thank you, drkate…I’m more encouraged and was wondering if there could be some strategy there, but I don’t have that kind of thought process:o) Oh, how I abhor the thought of Dr. Lakin being railroaded when we KNOW exactly who the real criminals/traitors are!

    This comment by Dr. Lakin’s brother from WND article:

    Lakin’s brother, Dr. Greg Lakin, was more upbeat about Puckett’s defense strategy.

    “[Puckett] wants to focus on the big issue here,” Greg Lakin told WND. According to Lakin, Puckett chose to concede the smaller matters in order to direct the court martial panel’s attention on the “missing movement” charge, which is most closely linked to Obama’s personal authority because it ties directly to the order to deploy to Iraq as part of Obama’s surge strategy.

    “The president has taken full credit for the Afghanistan deployment, he signed the order,” said Greg Lakin. “Terry will have a chance to say his piece during the sentencing portion of the trial.”

    We’re not stupid as the MSM would have everyone believe. We know that all orders stem from the top and that BHO is posing as the Commander-in-Chief who doesn’t give a flip about our military, and could care less about embarrasing a true, honorable serviceman; he can only be occupied (spinning lies) with his own self-inflicted embarrasment to keep the truth about himself from coming out…absolutely despicable that America has allowed this fruad to continue.

    • 10 Paula December 15, 2010 at 11:58 am

      Oh, well…it looks like Dr. Lakin did not “have a chance to say his piece,” as his brother stated to WND. The defense just rested without calling any witnesses, not even Dr. Lakin? What a strange turn of events! It was too much for him, I’m guessing, or either he had a horrible attorney:o(

      Does anyone know what happened to Mr. Manning?

  7. 11 BritCapitalist December 15, 2010 at 7:38 am

    Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, et al who have never seen Barry Soetoro’s original long form birth certificate, which is the only document that would identify the hospital and attending physician at the time of Barry’s birth, should be ashamed of themselves. Like the courtiers in “The Emperor’s New Clothes” they sit in their ivory towers preening themselves at just how superior they are in the “knowledge” that they can clearly see the Emperor’s new clothes, “Oh what a wonderful shade of green” etc. Sorry Lt. Col. Lakin, you cannot depend on any of these individuals to come to your defense; they are far too clever, by half, and far more concerned about selling their books.
    May God continue to bless you and give you the strength to stand up against the collusive corruption that has forced you to your courts-martials. Thank you for standing up for our Constitution. There is no doubt in my mind that Barry Soetoro is ineligible to be the POTUS and at some point the truth will be revealed that will finally set you (and the American people) free.

  8. 12 RacerJim December 15, 2010 at 7:44 am

    Since the fifth government witness actually stated that the reason why LTC Lakin refused his orders was Obama’s elibility then the government’s own witness opened the door to exploring Obama’s eligibilty in deference to Judge Lind’s ruling to the contrary.

  9. 13 Stock December 15, 2010 at 7:52 am

    From the Miami Herald page 3-A
    “Birther on trial for refusing to Deploy
    Fort Meade-An Army doctor who disobeyed orders to deploy to Afghanistan because he questioned Presiden Barack Obamas eligibility for office pleaded guilty Tuesday to one of two charges against him.
    Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin pleaded guilty in a military court to a charge that included not meeting with a superior when ordered to do so and not reporting to duty at Fort Bampbell in Kentucky. Lakin a 17-year veteren faces up to 18 months i prison and dismissal from the Army when he is sentenced on that charge.
    In videos posted on You Tube, Lakin aligned himself with so-called “birthers” who question whether Obama is a natural born citizen as the Constitution requires for presidents.”

    I think this may open the floodgates for the coverage and the national discussion and excuse for a congressional investigation of the fraudster in chiefs credentials. Finally.

  10. 14 Stock December 15, 2010 at 7:58 am

    Excuse the typos-in the prior post-they are mine not the Heralds.

  11. 16 ms.helga December 15, 2010 at 8:36 am

    The CICURPER will pardon LTC Lakin. Oh! I forgot- No one in the country knows about this story.
    I am listening to a discusion NOW on KHOW by Peter Boyles.

  12. 17 Troy December 15, 2010 at 8:48 am

    I don’t know about the rules in a military courts martial, but in a civilian court once that 5th witness for the prosecution mentioned Obama’s eligibility during testimony, then that’s it – the horse is out of the barn!…The defense would have every legal right to cross examine that witness about his/her testimony regarding Obama’s eligibility….It doesn’t matter how quickly Judge Lind shut down that witness…The words had already been uttered and became a part of the court’s record….Why didn’t Pucket go hog wild on cross examining that witness about the previously testified eligibility comment?…The opportunity was there and now it’s gone.

  13. 21 Sterngard Friegen December 15, 2010 at 9:39 am

    How do you explain — and why did you not report — that LCOL Lakin repeatedly admitted, under oath, that he knew his orders were lawful when he disobeyed them, during the guilty plea care inquiry?

    How do you explain — and why did you not report — that LCOL Lakin and his attorney disrespectfully told Lakin’s Medal of Honor winning boss that he only had one chance to talk to Lakin and that he had “missed it”?

    What trial were you at?

    • 22 RacerJim December 15, 2010 at 10:34 am

      Why did you conspicuously misrepresent what LTC Lakin admitted to? He never admitted, under oath or otherwise, that he knew his redeployment orders were lawful when he disobeyed them, during his guilty pleas to other charges or at any other time.

      Why did you conspicuously ignore the fact that the fifth prosecution witness “opened the door” to Obama’s eligibility when they opined, under oath, that the reason LTC Lakin refused to obey his redeployment orders was Obama’s eligibility?

      What trial were you at indeed?

      • 23 BobBob December 15, 2010 at 11:07 am

        Did that fifth witness state anything except that Lakin claimed, as his reason for not deploying, that he questioned Obama’s eligibility? The fact that Lakin gave that as his reason for not deploying is not in dispute. Repeating the fact that Lakin has said this doesn’t “open the door” to anything, because nobody is disputing that Lakin has said this.

        • 24 Troy December 15, 2010 at 11:20 am

          Didn’t Judge Lind previously state that she was not going to allow any defense based upon this premise?

          I believe she did and in doing so negated Lakin’s reason for not deploying as inadmissable.

          Defense was told not to even try going down that road in court and they didn’t, but a prosecution witness sure as heck did…That is when defense Puckett should have seized the opportunity in cross examination of that witness to blow the issue wide open…He wimped out!

      • 25 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 12:03 pm

        @RacerJim —

        I don’t think you understand the meaning of “open[ing] the door.”

        Judge Lind ruled that the court will not consider the question of Obama’s eligibility, as it is irrelevant to determining Lakin’s guilt or innocence. Nevertheless, it has been made perfectly clear that Lakin disobeyed his orders because of his personal beliefs on that subject.

        Now Lakin and his attorney have a decision to make. Since Lakin himself has admitted that his orders were valid and his beliefs were irrelevant to that question, how much does he want to hammer home — in front of a jury of colonels, no less — what poor judgment he has shown?

    • 27 drkate December 16, 2010 at 1:10 am

      so you were not in the courtroom, as you did not hear that Lakin never said that. did you also notice that NO military personnel except those supporting Lakin stood up when the Medal of Honor recipient walked by? ALL MILITARY PROTOCOL AND NONE OF THE SUPPOSED ‘MILITARY’ STOOD UP. How do you explain that? Or are you one of the military people who did not stand either?

      You missed the strategy of course. When the judge incorrectly and illegally denied Lakin a defense, he had no choice.

      • 28 Starla December 16, 2010 at 6:51 pm


        In my humble opinion, you are correct to say “when the judge incorrectly and illegally denied Lakin a defense.” However I think Lt. Col. Dr. Lakin had no choice other than to plead “NOT GUILTY” to all charges, since Lt. Col. Dr. Lakin truly is “NOT GUILTY” to the ridiculous charges he was falsely charged with.

    • 29 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 10:56 am

      Let me explain it to you.

      He plead guilty because its the Truth.

      That’s why.

      • 30 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 11:00 am

        the ‘lawful orders’ were not just ‘lawful orders’…

        they were “presumed lawful orders”, per Judge Lind.

        presume this, presume that… and you can be presumed to be a war criminal.

  14. 31 SueDB December 15, 2010 at 10:07 am

    LTC Lakin pled guilty and had to explain to the Judge why he was guilty and why he was wrong. The judge won’t accept the guilty plea without an extensive Q & A with the defendant. He admitted the orders were lawful and he failed in his duty to obey them. The only contention now is a point of law whether LTC Lakin was ordered to be on board the specific aircraft outlined in the charge sheet. LTC Edwards has already testified as to the order assigning him to that aircraft. There is a discrepancy between Col Roberts’ testimony and LTC Edwards, where COL Roberts didn’t remember telling LTC Edwards the order she stated relaying to LTC Lakin. One lawyer opined that they may recall COL Roberts to clairfy. If that connection is clearly established by testimony, the charge sticks…

    Going to be an interesting finish.

    To see how the military folks feel, you should read – LTC Lakin is being gutted like a seditious elk hanging from the rafters.

  15. 32 karen December 15, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Why was pator manning removed from the court? is it true what the obits are saying they took him out becasue they found out he is a convicted felon? that must be obots lies.

  16. 34 Patty December 15, 2010 at 10:15 am

    Wait, I heard there was a witness who testified that Lakin was told to be on that plane.

    I know I heard that.

    I wonder if it will be in the court transcripts.

    • 35 drkate December 16, 2010 at 1:07 am

      So, are you one of the obots in the courtroom? LOLOLOLOL. YOu have no idea what;s going on. Yes this person who said ‘get on that plane’ lied. the military cannot handle the truth that they were routed.

      • 36 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 11:15 am


        those military know it all legal beagle bloggers are sooo funnnnnny. “you’d make a great spy”

        LOL! good thing she didn’t say “deplane!” “delplane”!
        Fantasy Island witness “friend” in uniform.

        oh patty girl, you look lovely in your ascot, darling.

        what’s your lyric? is it like military music is to music, like foreign military justice blogs are to blogs.


        hope this posts right there with “patty” on 12/15/10 10:15 a.m.

  17. 37 TZ December 15, 2010 at 10:36 am

    This whole trial is unjust & unfair… how can ANYONE defend themselves if the Judge won’t allow them the evidence to do so. I thought that NO ONE was above the LAW!! Looks like I was wrong… I hope this Judge can sleep at night. As they say her day will come & the one higher up will be HER Judge.

    I can only hope that the citizens of this great nation get behind & support Lt Col Lakin. He is a hero & I think more of him then ANY crooked politican in Washington. If this court-martial panel tries to make an example of Lt Col Kakin… then everyone needs to contact their rep’s… at least get it on record. This way when the truth does come out then those who helped coverup the truth can go to prison.

  18. 38 PharmD December 15, 2010 at 10:41 am

    Dr Kate,

    Were you actually at the trial, or are you reading the transcript?

    • 39 drkate December 16, 2010 at 1:05 am

      lol. at the trial. This kind of stuff does not come from reading the transcript!

      • 40 PharmD December 16, 2010 at 3:27 am

        Figured as much, but with it being ‘the season’ here in Florida, I’ve been busier than usual. I missed that you said you were going.

        By the way, sorry about not believing it was you that posted a while back. We had so many bots running through that I was suspicious of pretty much anything, and I wouldn’t put it past one of them to try and use your name.

        • 41 drkate December 16, 2010 at 6:51 am

          No problem. I can hardly believe the spam. difficult on the road to watch it. Much to say. a deal is in the works….a lot to say folks, stay tuned

  19. 42 Sterngard Friegen December 15, 2010 at 11:52 am

    @ RacerJim

    You must have missed the first 90 minutes of the trial, when Judge Lind repeatedly asked LCOL Lakin if he understood his orders were lawful, and if he had that understanding at the time he disobeyed them. All the responses were in the affirmative.

    And as for that door that was opened by the fifth witness, which you excitedly report, well neither LCOL Lakin nor his lawyer walked through it. They rested without putting on a defense.

    Reality hurts, doesn’t it?

    • 43 RacerJim December 15, 2010 at 1:07 pm

      Eventually Obama/Soetoro will be outed for the America hating usurper he is. At that point everything he did acting as POTUS will become null & void.

      Truth hurts, eh?

      • 44 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 1:18 pm

        Evidently your version of the truth doesn’t take the de facto officer doctrine into account.

        • 45 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 11:28 am


          whats the new definition? I missed it. you were guffawing and thigh-thumping getting a kick out of your own snark during a supposedly serious military trial; during testimony. hypocrite.

          Orly’s eyelashes warranted your attention.

          sssshhhhhhh, Officer!


          evidently you wouldn’t, since it was evident you were.

  20. 46 Urgent December 15, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    The judge shut down that line of defense but Lakin’s attorney told everyone EXACTLY what needs to be done.

    In this hostile CNN interview:
    Lakin’s attorney pointed this out:

    JENSEN: Mr. Cooper, if you’ve done your research, you know that, in the state of Hawaii, there’s a statute that allows anyone born outside the state of Hawaii, including in a foreign country, to obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate at any age by going back and filling out a form. [He later gives the citation: Hawaiian statute 338-17.8]

    Who can do this? ANYONE. Doesn’t matter where you were born, or how old you are.

    HERE’S WHAT MUST BE DONE: anyone who was born in a foreign country but has come to this country and is now loyal to this country …. FILL OUT THAT FORM. Get your own Hawaiian birth certificate. ANYONE can do it. ANYONE MEANS ANYONE. But it will mean more if foreign born Americans get their own Hawaiian “certificate of live birth” under Hawaiian statute 338-17.8 just to prove out little it means. Someone get this message to Orly or some other prominent person not born in the states, and not afraid to take the heat. It will be a total game changer and Lakin’s lawyer has pointed everyone to exactly the legal statue that makes it possible.

    • 47 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 12:35 pm

      Urgent, you are 100% correct.

      Now would you like to hazard a guess as to why not a single person has done it and made the results public? Wouldn’t it have saved everyone a lot of trouble?

      I mean, it’s been over two years, you know…

      • 48 Urgent December 15, 2010 at 12:51 pm

        Over two years? The interview I posted about was earlier this year. Start by getting your facts straight.

        And you don’t know that not a single person is doing this. I’m sure that back in 1982 it was as easy as filling out the form mentioned by Lakin’s lawyer. But now … considering the implications … requests will no doubt be “misplaced” and paperwork “delayed”. Lakin’s lawyer said that ANYONE can do this, no matter where they were born. He didn’t say it would be easy.

        • 49 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm

          Over two years since the COLB was first posted and doubts about it were raised.

          In the mean time, maybe some of those people who have gotten the runaround from the Hawaii DoH about ‘requests … “misplaced” and paperwork “delayed”’ — we could be hearing from some of them. Are they too shy to speak up?

          You know, it’s like so many birther myths. I mean, why bother with the deceptively edited tape of Sarah Obama purportedly saying that he was born in Kenya when someone could have her file a sworn affidavit saying so? That would be meaningful. Has anyone even tried?

          How about those crowds of people who supposedly have State of Hawaii COLBs saying they were born in Hawaii but were in fact born somewhere else? Why haven’t we seen one of those? The claim about Maya Soetoro having one turned out to be a lie.

          Doesn’t it strike you as odd when people are speculating about how real evidence could be produced but — more than two years later — we’ve seen nothing?

          But don’t worry. It’s not too late to say, “It doesn’t matter where he was born, his father wasn’t a U.S. citizen.” All is not lost!

          • 50 Urgent December 15, 2010 at 1:21 pm

            Did you notice that you completely dodged the issue, or was that accidental?

            Hawaiian statute 338-17.8 either says what Lakin’s lawyer claims, or it doesn’t. You can change the subject. Or just look it up and see if he was telling the truth.

            Here, I’ll even do the work for you:

            Hey, what’s that? The law is titled “Certificates for children born out of State”? Surely that’s just a typo or something it couldn’t POSSIBLY mean exactly what it sounds like. Hawaiian birth certificates for children not born in Hawaii? IMPOSSIBLE! Why should you even bother reading the text of the law, because you already know there are NO cases of people getting Hawaiian birth certificates who weren’t actually born there.

            I’ll read it for you. It says “the director of health shall issue a birth certificate” … oh, but surely only a Hawaiian birth certificate for someone BORN IN HAWAII! Couldn’t possibly be otherwise.

            Sorry. The answer is no. It doesn’t require that the person getting the birth certificate be born in Hawaii at all! Just that a *parent* be a legal resident of Hawaii.

            So if the mother … just for example … were to have established residence in Hawaii and then gone to … oh … let’s just pick some random place on earth … KENYA … and then at some later point applied for a Hawaiian birth certificate for a kid born in KENYA … what does Hawaiian statute 338-17.8 say about whether the director of health in Hawaii is required by law to issue that Hawaiian birth certificate?

            Well, you can work out the rest. Or not. Up to you.

            • 51 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 1:27 pm

              LOL, misquoting me doesn’t help your case.

              I didn’t say there were no cases of it happening. I’m just wondering, instead of waving your hands and offering your interpretation of the law, why don’t you just show us an example of it? Even one?

              The fact that we haven’t seen one doesn’t lend a lot of credence to your speculative tale.

              • 52 Urgent December 15, 2010 at 1:47 pm

                So you aren’t denying that the law says what it says. Namely that BY LAW the state of Hawaii must issue a Hawaiian birth certificate for a kid born ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD … (cough)Kenya(cough) … so long as a parent is a legal resident of Hawaii even if they were out of the state … or even out of the country … at the time of birth.

                Good so far?

                Let me be sure I have the rest of your argument correct. Wouldn’t want to misquote you or anything.

                Hawaiian law EXPLICITLY allows for a kid born elsewhere … even outside the US … to get a Hawaiian COLB.

                So *if* this law were ever actually applied, then having a Hawaiian COLB wouldn’t actually prove someone was born in the US.

                But you’ve never seen an example of someone actually using this law to get a Hawaiian COLB, in spite of their not having been born in the US.

                So therefore, since you’re not aware of this law ever actually having been applied, you think it’s reasonable to assume that nobody has gotten a Hawaiian COLB without having been born in the US.

                If nobody has gotten a Hawaiian COLB even though they were born outside the US, then having a Hawaiian COLB is proof that they were born *in* the US. More specifically it proves they were born *in* Hawaii. Because the law specifically allowing otherwise has never been applied to anyone you know of.

                So therefore Obama’s COLB proves he was born in the US.

                That’s basically the logic you’re applying here, right?

      • 53 Mike C December 16, 2010 at 5:14 pm

        What IS it that prevents the morons occupying this space from using their own eyes to view the COLBs of Hawaii and the requirements for grant of. >>> PLACE – OF – BIRTH <<< – REQUIRED!!!!

        You can NOT be born in Omaha, Nebraska and get a Hawaii COLB stating your were born in Dallas, Texas – or Birtherville, Birthistan.

        The guy has a U.S. Passport, morons.

        • 54 Miri December 16, 2010 at 5:33 pm

          Yes, he has a senatorial passport and a diplomatic one. Any prior passports were sanitized by John O. Brennan’s employees. Remember?

          Mike C., why don’t you ask your messiah to have the HDOH issue directly to you a certified copy of that COLB you believe exists and is real, and then you can tell us what it says with regard to parents, date of birth, place of birth.

    • 55 Bobby December 15, 2010 at 12:37 pm

      Here is the statute in question.

      Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

      In other words, if your parents lived in Hawaii for a year and you were born in Los Angeles, you can get a birth certificate issued from Hawaii as long as you have a) proof of that birth and b) proof of your parents’ residency.

      A 30-year-old Nigerian can’t show up and get a birth certificate.

    • 56 Quantum Leap December 15, 2010 at 10:23 pm


  21. 57 speedy December 15, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    How can these people even carry on a court martial when they themselves really don’t have real proof that the CIC is eligible and that this is a legal proceeding? They are just assuming that they are following legal orders and are not really checking into the matter. That judge is not a very fair judge. His defense relies on discovery of whether his orders were lawful to begin with by being ordered by an ineligible usurper to go to Afghanistan. Bo is beyond evil along with this kangaroo court.

  22. 58 Ed December 15, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Wow, you people are completely nuts.

  23. 60 obsolete December 15, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    I just heard that Dr. Kate was arrested shortly after Manning! The FEMA camps are now open, I’m not waiting around for them to come and get me- I’m heading to the Forests! Who will join me in hiding and praying?

  24. 63 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    @Urgent — “That’s basically the logic you’re applying here, right?”

    You are one of the silliest debaters I have ever come across! How can you make such a dumb argument with an apparently straight face?

    The COLB is prima facie evidence, and under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution and the Federal Rules of Evidence it is presumed to be correct.

    You can wave your hands all you like with speculative fantasies about what you say could happen under law, but there’s no reason to take your verbose gobbledegook seriously. If you could show an example illustrating that your interpretation of the law were anything other than a delusion, you might get a little more attention.

    Maybe you can get some gullible people to fall for claptrap like that, but to most of us it’s transparent nonsense.

    • 64 Urgent December 15, 2010 at 2:10 pm

      You write “The COLB is prima facie evidence, and under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution and the Federal Rules of Evidence it is presumed to be correct.”

      Evidence of having had a parent who was a legal resident of Hawaii at the time of birth, yes. Now just pretend that’s really what the question is, and you’re all set.

      • 65 Doubtful December 15, 2010 at 2:44 pm

        Oh, jeez, by “Lakin’s lawyer,” do you mean Jensen, the guy in the video?

        Wake up! Jensen was fired weeks ago. He was trashed at the court-martial yesterday for giving Lakin such bad advice. Yes, I absolutely do question his competence, and Lakin and his current lawyer — crackerjack defense attorney Neal Puckett — may well have a malpractice case against him.

        And, by the way, the jury has just come back and convicted Lakin.

        Sorry, I guess you lose all around.

      • 66 BirtherLover December 15, 2010 at 3:23 pm

        “If you’re right then Lakin’s lawyer was telling an outright baldfaced lie, and Lakin is being represented by a dishonest moron who bases his arguments on a reading of the law so deeply flawed that it can only be described (to use your own description) as “delusional.” Is that where you want to go with this, putting your legal credentials up against his?”

        Lakin WAS being represented by a dishonest moron. Lakin fired Jensen for basing his arguments on a reading of the law so deeply flawed that it can only be described as delusional.

        Read the law again. You can get a Hawaiian COLB if you were born outside Hawaii. You CANNOT get one that states you were born in Honolulu, unless… and follow me closely here, this is the important bit… YOU. WERE. BORN. IN. HONOLULU. If you were born in Bali, the Hawaiian COLB would say Bali. If you were born in Linclon, Nebraska, the Hawaiian COLB would say Lincoln, Nebraska.

        • 67 tfb December 16, 2010 at 7:11 am

          Well we all know that colb shit is forged so is the seal, so whatever he posted is not legit.

        • 74 Miri December 16, 2010 at 10:11 pm

          You don’t know what Obama’s papers say because NO MEMBER of the public has seen them. Got it? Follow me closely. NOBODY in the media or the public has EVER seen a certified, authentic COLB that is indisputably produced and verified by the HDOH. Got it? NOBODY. A digital image on a partisan BLOG is evidence of NOTHING. You haven’t a clue what would come out of the HDOH database IF Obama EVER had the guts to ask them to produce a COLB for the media. It doesn’t matter what a photoshopped digital image on a partisan blog claims as the place of birth. Why? Because it’s proof of NOTHING. It’s not a 3-dimensional, authenticated, certified, legal document. It’s a digital image that’s been photoshopped. That could easily be manipulated to say anything. Got it?

        • 75 itooktheredpill December 17, 2010 at 7:36 am

          Your premise is that the COLB that was produced at and by the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago is authentic.

          Yet you have no explanation for why the “seal” on that COLB is not a legal seal.

          A legal seal would be raised on the side that reads normally (and incised on the other side which creates a mirror image of the seal).

          The seal on the Obama COLB is incised on the side that reads normally (and raised on the other side which creates a mirror image of the seal).

          The COLB is not a legal document.

          The State of Hawaii has never claimed that that COLB is authentic.

          Obama has never authorized the “public release” of any of his vital records.

          The media has repeatedly lied saying that Obama “released” his COLB and the media has repeatedly lied saying that the State of Hawaii had deemed it authentic.

          Name the members of Congress who has personally inspected an official hard copy vital record for Barack Hussein Obama II.

          You can’t.

          Congress has so far failed to support and defend Section 3 of the 20th Amendment and Article II Section 1 of the United States Constitution. It is their Constitutional duty to ensure that the President and Vice-President QUALIFY.

          And while many members of Congress debated whether or not John McCain could be considered a “natural born citizen” despite his birth in Panama, not a single one of them debated whether or not Barack Obama could be considered a “natural born citizen” despite his admitted birth as a Brtish subject.

          • 76 itooktheredpill December 17, 2010 at 7:44 am

            My last comment was a reply to “BirtherLover”.

            So, when I said, “Your premise is…” that was directed at him, not Dr. Kate or anyone else.

          • 77 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 8:06 am

            you just cannot get a simple answer to a simple question.

            The Presidential Oath first compels the Commander In Chief to swear he will faithfully execute:

            to the best of my ability, PRESERVE, … and … The Constitution of the United States of America.

            Don’t hold your breath. Just Words.

            • 78 RacerJim December 17, 2010 at 8:30 am

              The simple answer to the simple question is this: usurper POTUS/CIC Obama/Soetoro does not bear any allegiance whatsoever, nevermind sole allegiance, to the U.S. Constitution.

            • 79 tfb December 17, 2010 at 9:56 pm

              papoose 8:06am
              obama in his “screwup” said he would “execute the presidency”

              he sure has done that!

          • 80 tfb December 17, 2010 at 9:54 pm

            This is for I took the red pill at 7:36am

            this blog is out of order and there’s several obats saying ridiculous things that need ‘das boot’

            you’re right the seal is an obvious forgery
            it’s so bad in fact it’s inverted, should be raised!
            neil abercrombie will be trying to make a new bc but ‘the seal has been revealed’ by uipa official correspondence already and is on a million other vitals

            what’s he going to do besides come up with a new bc that cannot match the colb because nothing on it is accurate, the bc will have no provenance and will require many people to commit treason

            this is a very very very touchy subject and they’re terrified that NEWS ABOUT POLITICAL PRISONER TERRY LAKIN FATHER OF THEE YOUNG CHILDREN BRONZE STAR DECORATED PHYSICIAN will get out

            so post it and speak it everywhere you can

            Something else of interest…

            the first law in the USA to naturalize aliens by oath was implemented in 1790
            what this means is that none of the grandfathered “citizens” were oathed-in as the obat lie about constantly

            this means those “citizens” in A2’s grandfather clause refer to birthright citizens or naturalized at birth citizens, since they needed to differentiate them from “natural born Citizens” also in A2

            this means that born citizens are NOT the same thing as natural born citizens!!

      • 81 UhHuh-Yes December 16, 2010 at 2:09 pm

        Urgent is right about the Hawai’ian COLB. I was born in Guatemala and when my parents moved us to Hawai’i, they got me a Hawai’ian COLB since it would be easier when registering me for going to school here in the states to use it than one from Guatemala. In the area where it shows the place I was born, it shows Departamento de Jalapa, Guatemala. So, I imagine if Obama was born somewhere in Kenya, then his COLB would show the name of the city and Kenya.

    • 84 attilasdaughter December 15, 2010 at 2:11 pm

      The “COLB” is so far only a digital image on a campaign website.
      Has the original ever been submitted? No.

      As far as this being acceptible evidence.
      I have myself once submitted a comparable birth certificate to the INS.
      An international birth certificate that has the basic information and is a computer print out, just like Obama’s COLB.
      It was refused and I had to bring my certifioed copy of the original plus certified translation.

      • 85 drkate December 18, 2010 at 12:23 am

        What is even more astounding is that anyone would accept an electronic version of any critical document like this! Lowering the standard of proof by even claiming the electronic forged image was a BC was a distraction.

    • 86 RacerJim December 16, 2010 at 10:09 am

      Which version of Obama’s COLB do you claim is prima-facie evidence? The first version posted on the DailyKos or the second version posted on Fightthesmears and Fackcheck? They are so visually desparate that one version cannot be authentic, and that doesn’t necessarily mean that the other version is authentic.

      Actually, it really doesn’t matter which version you claim is prima-facie evidence because even if both versions are authentic the Department of Hawaii Home Lands wouldn’t accept either version as prima-facie of being a native born Hawaiian.

      Obots may line up to drink your Kool-Aid, but to most common-sense people like us it’s obfuscating garbage.

    • 87 Miri December 16, 2010 at 10:17 pm

      Well, show us a COLB that would be prima facie evidence then. There’s NEVER been one produced to any court. There’s NEVER been one produced to anyone. Period. A digital image on a partisan blog is not a legal document and is prima facie evidence of squat.

    • 88 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 11:39 am

      go to CAAflogmyself. Hurry.

      The debate is enticing and delicious.

      and delectable. Bring you own whip.

  25. 89 BugZptr December 15, 2010 at 2:51 pm


    It might be worth at this point noting that the attorney you quote above, Mr Jensen, is not the same attorney who defended LTC Lakin these last couple of days.

    LTC Lakin has parted ways with Mr Jensen and was represented by Mr Neil Puckett during the court martial.

  26. 90 karen December 15, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Is it true that General Lakin was convicted? how is this possible?

    • 91 Troy December 15, 2010 at 3:10 pm

      How is that possible???
      That’s what happens when you take the advice of an idiot lawyer who tells you to plead GUILTY after making a backroom deal.

      Lakin’s only chance was to stand his ground and challenge Lind’s previous ruling about where “lawful orders” originate.

      Puckett sold Lakin down the river and the sentence will NOT be reduced as per backroom dealings…Puckett is a moron that allowed his client to get suckered.

      • 92 D. Oltieri December 15, 2010 at 6:14 pm

        Puckett is a patriot who has actively campaigned for Alan West!

        You’ll be criticising Col Lakin next!

        This is geting ridiculous.

    • 93 BirtherLover December 15, 2010 at 3:28 pm

      Lakin is a Lieutenant Colonel, not a General.

      He was convicted because he pled guilty. He pled guilty because he was guilty of disobeying a direct order from his superior officer. He did not accept a plea bargain because none was offered. By pleading guilty, sentences are automatically reduced for this type of offense, so he will be spending much, much less time in prison.

    • 94 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 11:41 am

      Ask Colonol Mustard. He has the rope. In the Conservatory.

      Take a hard left.

  27. 95 citizenwells December 15, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    I let Maureen Dowd have it this morning.

    I have just thrown down the gauntlet on Beck & Anderson Cooper.
    After chatising TheBlaze yesterday for not covering the Lakin Cout Martial, they covered it today with a Cooper video that discredits and insults LTC Lakin and concerned Americans.
    They are toast!

    • 96 Miri December 15, 2010 at 5:36 pm

      It was disgusting to read how she spoke of Lakin as if he’s a broken man, with SUCH unholy relish. She’s an embarrassment to journalism as well as the human race. She says that this issue is tinged with “biases about race and religion.” How ridiculous can she be?

      What race? What religion? She doesn’t know because nobody knows. What religion is he Maureen? If he’s Christian, then why would Christians be asking for his birth certificate, as if they’re biased against his religion?

      What race is he Maureen? Nobody knows. And I mean nobody, but especially not Maureen and the rest of the lamestream media because they not only can’t handle the TRUTH, they don’t even want to KNOW the TRUTH. They’re AFRAID to ask for the TRUTH. They’re AFRAID to investigate to find the TRUTH.

      I dare Maureen to ask him to show her that “original, signed birth certificate” that some in the lamestream media said he’s already provided.

      h/t bridgettebee of WTPOTUS

      But Maureen is of the opinion that Barry doesn’t have to show anybody anything. His word is as good as gold. Fools gold, if you ask me. He’s not guilty until proven innocent. Barry, I mean. He applied for a job. Like any job applicant, it’s his responsibility to prove his eligibility and qualifications.

      • 97 Paula December 15, 2010 at 7:22 pm

        Well said, and Amen!

      • 98 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 12:21 pm

        We emphatically told Maureen who looks a little bit better in person than her caricature that we unlike some people including the “accused” do not care about the birth certificate. We told her many times. We don’t care if the person of the hour was born in the Lincoln Bedroom.

        We told her we only care about his scholastic records and the document that changed his name back to the one stated on his promulgated COLBs (folded and unfolded stamped 6/7/2006 and promulgated on at least three sites in 2008.)

        We told her he was born with dual citizenship as he professed on the stop the smears charade. (notion, distraction, bamboozle, TUCC).. . blah, blah, blah. He is the person who revealed to us he was born of British Citizenship via that Dad that dropped in to get a couple of degrees. He stated it in writing as a footnote under the COLB that wasn’t folded.

        She threw that crap in as her own opinion. Nothing we said. We already know he’s a caucasian and don’t even care. So what? Plus the BC is moot. He doesn’t have one. He has made that perfectly clear. MoveOn, Reenie.

        Shame Mo didn’t hang around long enough to meet the “accused’s” family. They were on the wall 5′ x 5′ in living color. All Four of them. he’s the balding white guy with the slimped shoulders. The other 4 are his wife and 3 children. yeah, she missed out on that.

        barry dunham is a white American. It is racist to keep referring to the man’s skin color. He’s just another native born redneck with no curriculum vitae to speak of. A lot of us have parents that were born in other countries. We usually identify them by nationality, not race.

        When they say “racists” in any context, they give themselves away.

        The sitting president has a little African blood in him, OK, but not a drop of African American blood. Like I do. Yeah, he’s a white American. The shade of his skin is something we all love to have. Its attractive.

        Some people really hate white people, I think. And they constantly have to accuse white people of being racist in order to detract from the fact that barry dunham soetero doesn’t have any bona fides. Its malicious and racist on their part.

        He chose to hide all his records. We didn’t ask him to be so clandestine and deceitful. That is his choice.

        They are trying to convince the American Public that the guy is the first Black American President, I think. That’s what I’ve heard. He’s not like Allen West or Michael Steele or Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson, for example. He’s not even like his wife in that sense. No not at all. His nationality as an American according to his biography and COLB is caucasian. He carries a dominate gene, obviously, but that does not have anything to do with his nationality or race. If he’s American as he claims, then he is _____________.

        The guy’s Anglo Saxon. I think English and Scottish or something like that. No biggie.

        Just wondering though what custom is it where he derived to be designated as a Second via II, yet his Kenyan Dad is a Senior. Haven’t yet come across that here. Is there a III or a IV that is out there and we don not know about. Perhaps, there is. But, we will never know.

        The only thing that bugs me about the guy is that by his presence the Weather Underground has advanced to the Oval Office. That’s all.

        That’s not racist. That’s just plain old disdain. disgust. something like that.

        Maureen Dowd is using the “birthers” to advance her cause in ridiculing the President wearing a beard. But that’s OK. we get it and we alos appreciate it very much.

        yo Mo, did you really want the ? in your headline, cutie pie?

    • 99 D. Oltieri December 15, 2010 at 6:18 pm


      I thought Cooper did well on that Oil spill, but since then he’s reverted back to type.

      Beck is just a clown, by his own admission.

      Stick it to ’em, CW.

      Holy Moly, look at the Obots here. This isn’t normal, is it?

      I pray the rumor about Dr Kate isn’t true.

      Godd bless her!

      • 100 Debbie G December 15, 2010 at 6:23 pm

        she just posted

        December 15, 2010 at 6:07 pm
        Please join me at revolution radio tonite for an update on the lakin court martial

    • 101 misstickly December 16, 2010 at 9:44 am

      Thank you, Mr. Wells! Dowd is a POS judgmental toad who has never lifted a finger for anyone. And she’s a racebaiting, hypocritical piece of garbage who exploits feelings of racial injustice to suit her political needs. What a hideous woman–on the inside!

      Trash, she’s just trash. Dangerous trash. Of course we have every right to question the POTUS whether he’s a proven pathological liar like Obama or just your regular liar like the rest of them. It’s wrong of Dowd to place the identity of the entire black ommunity in Obama–because even SHE knows he’s a liar, and an admitted “disappointment.” She knows he’s a Chicago thug and now, if Obama’s exposed for the thug criminal he is, she has set up the black community to project that failure on themselves and it’s so reckless and unfair.

      She’s lost her GD mind!

      –end rant–

  28. 102 citizenwells December 15, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    PS-If you think I am kidding, wait & see.

    • 103 BirtherLover December 15, 2010 at 3:40 pm



  29. 104 Kris December 15, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    Lakin is a convicted felon as of today. Lakin was found HUILTY on ALL counts!! What a great day in America, huh?

  30. 105 Helen December 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Patty – this lyric has me extremely concerned. Any word on dk’s safety? Dr. Manning’s? Is Kerchner safe?

  31. 106 Paula December 15, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    So mature and good natured….Not! And using the name of God at the end of your little diatribe…shameful.

  32. 107 Rosemary Woodhouse December 15, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Gun Loving- As I posted at another blog, do not let the bots play psychological games with you. They thrive on chaos and confusion. I am certain that Kate is just fine.

  33. 108 Quantum Leap December 15, 2010 at 5:23 pm

    Dr kate the rObots have puked in isle 1,2 3 and 4. Please kick them out.

    Even Slowbama knows of his own inelibility. rObots, not so much.

  34. 113 Billy Bowlegs December 15, 2010 at 5:24 pm

    Why hasn’t the lies of Pelosi been brought into the fracus. Her conspiracy act of illegal nomination in 2008 led to the majority of this. 42 USC 1983 holds her liable since she was a Private Citizen at the time of signing her name to the fraudulent nomination forms that usurped at least seven state laws.

    • 114 eddie h. December 15, 2010 at 9:19 pm

      billy bowlegs— i have been pointing this out to many people for months. nancy pelosi committed perjury by signing those certification documents to hawaii and everybody just seems to over look this. there should have been a lawsuit against her for perjury two years ago and obama and all the others would have crumbled long ago. i just dont get it.

  35. 115 Miri December 15, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    God bless you, Dr. Kate, for standing tall with Lt. Col. Lakin. God bless him and his family, too. Thanks for keeping us up to date.

  36. 116 GunLovingPatriot December 15, 2010 at 5:43 pm

    I don’t know. I have heard this in more than one place. And Dr. Kate isn’t here today, so I fear the worst is true. What will we do without patriots like Dr. Kate or Pastor Manning?

    I read somewhere that the planes flying over Ft. Meade were spraying chemicals to hurt the people supporting Lakin. How can they spray chemicals and only hurt Lakin supporters? Do the people pulling the strings have the antidote?

    It scares me just to think about it. I’m not going to the FEMA camps. I may be old, but I’m taking at least a few of them out with me when they try to take this old bird away.

  37. 117 drkate December 15, 2010 at 6:07 pm

    Please join me at revolution radio tonite for an update on the lakin court martial

  38. 123 attilasdaughter December 15, 2010 at 6:10 pm

    I guess Dr. Kate will have some cleaning up the comments to do.

  39. 124 D. Oltieri December 15, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Can someone get a message to Dr Kate?

    Apparently the people at the hearing won’t look kindly on cheering or whooping any support of Lakin, and they might give him an even harsher sentence? Please please try and get this to Dr Kate!!!

    • 125 Debbie G December 15, 2010 at 6:28 pm

      Didn’t NNN go with her also?

      • 126 D. Oltieri December 15, 2010 at 6:46 pm

        NNN was there yesterday, I’m not sure about today.

        Thinking about it, I read that thing about cheering/whooping on an Obot site, so who know’s whether it’s true or not.

        They are very good at the bluffing and spinning.

        By golly though, I hope Dr Kate and all the other patriots have got out of that place OK!!!

  40. 128 JinAlabama December 15, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Wow, drkate. Something or somebody hit a raw nerve. These same trolls are zeroing in on other sites such as American Thinker. Filling it up with comments just like here. Protecting Teh ONE with what they have. Calling people birthers. Doing their little ditties of terrorizing the true patriots. My ex boss was a military man of LTC Lakin’s caliber. He knew bullshit when he saw it and heard it. Alot of it going on here and other blogs. I smell fear that Teh One may have a lot of splainin to do next month. We can only hope the Repubs grow spines and balls. Sorry just how I feel. They did have a short clip about LTC Lakin’s predicament on Bret Baier’s hour earlier tonight. Nothing to call out the cowards who sit back and watch good men take the fall for a real weazel. Bravo to you for a real Patriot. I am proud to be a part of your family here. Did not the pResident himself say, “There is nothing to fear except fear itself.” Some here need to buck up for when the going really gets tough.

    • 129 Quantum Leap December 15, 2010 at 10:43 pm

      Isn’t it great?! Someone went through alot of work hiring these paid rObots for 10 dollars and hour to harrass the blogs. Dem party has lots of swindled funds to hire them with. Hitting a nerve..hahahha
      slowbama will not get away with this.
      a thousand cuts.
      you wait.
      If you respond to a rObot they get paid more so ignore them.

    • 130 tfb December 16, 2010 at 7:09 am

      yep the yahoo page is filled with them and yahoo is censoring anything substantive
      they’re bashing vilifying lakin trying to spread bad rumors, over 4,000 posts and they’re all the same obots, I got 3 death threats just for mentioning article ii, 20th amendment and the forged seal

      for example they’re posting TOTAL LIES saying he’s weird has no wife no kids and loves to give massages to his patients hint hint, he’s a racist bigot birther would cut off the wrong leg let him rot in jail don’t drop the soap bubba stuff, just AWFUL! they have to look UP to see the hull of the Titanic they are so beneath contemptible

  41. 131 Rosemary Woodhouse December 15, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    You are being played! Use some discernment!

  42. 138 Troy December 15, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Dr. Kate on Revolution Radio from Tt. Meade in 11 minutes (8:00 CST)

  43. 139 Troy December 15, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Dr. Kate on Revolution Radio from Ft. Meade in 10 minutes (8:00 CST)

  44. 141 Quantum Leap December 15, 2010 at 10:31 pm




    Look it up.

  45. 142 Quantum Leap December 15, 2010 at 10:37 pm

    “The Mother of All Earmarks…Liberal Representative Emanuel Cleaver has proposed a whopping $48 BILLION EARMARK that would redistribute wealth to the inner cities.”
    40 acres and a mule…… LOL
    paying the blacks to stay on the dole.
    read it on…
    gateway P

  46. 143 Quantum Leap December 15, 2010 at 10:46 pm

    RMW is right. Stuff is posting out of sequence.

  47. 145 Quantum Leap December 16, 2010 at 12:38 am

    Barry Soetoro AKA Barack Hussein Obama is a USURPER because he is not eligible to be President of the United States because he is not a Natural Born Citizen as required by Article Two, Section One, Clause Five of the United States Constitution. This is a fact regardless of where he was born (Mombassa, Hawaii, Chicago, Mecca or Mars). He is not a Natural Born Citizen because he was not born of TWO PARENTS BOTH OF WHOM WERE UNITED STATES CITIZENS at the time of his birth. His father was a subject/ciitizen of Kenya/Great Britain at the time of his birth and afterwards. His mother was too young to pass on her US citizenship according to the law in effect when he was born. Check it out: His usurpation cannot be corrected by Congress, it can only be corrected by his resignation, his removal or by an amendment to the Constitution.

  48. 146 attilasdaughter December 16, 2010 at 4:11 am

    Is Lakin now the only person that has without question “standing” in court?

  49. 147 eddie h. December 16, 2010 at 7:17 am

    am i missing something or is something not registering with me? lt. col. lakin pleads guilty to several charges and is found guilty on the most serious charge. the matter of obamas eligibility is not resolved at all or even brought up. i listen to cdr. kerchner and dr. kate on blog talk discuss what a success the trial was. i go over to wnd. com and read how lt. col.lakin has apologized to the army and pleaded with them to allow him to stay in and he is aware there is no legal c. i. c. to obey orders from. this man is begging for mercy from obama and the other criminals. so please folks look at reality here.

  50. 148 Ted December 16, 2010 at 8:32 am

    From my Citizen Wells postings:

    Citizen Wells, respectfully, I would pose the same question here as I posed to Commander Kerchner over at Attorney Apuzzo’s site:

    “Commander Kerchner:–

    Just saw onlne the video played at the Terry Lakin Court Martial and simply must ask, WHY NO MENTION OF OBAMA’S DAD PRECLUDING OBAMA AS A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”???

    He only speaks about the Hawaii Birth certificate.

    The Hawaii Birth issue is a RED HERRING, RED HERRING, RED HERRING.

    Since you met with Lt Col. Lakin, I MUST ask, do you suspect anything “fishy” there??? (I would hate to believe this, but, but, but, i.e., planted Obot set up to divert from real issue?)

    Please give your opinion.”

    Maybe Lt.Col. Lakin was duped by Team Obama so the likes of CNN can divert from the real legal impediment to Obama’s eligibility (his dad was British) to the Hawaii birth certificate — and THAT IS the conspiracy!

  51. 149 Ted December 16, 2010 at 8:37 am

    (meant to post this here)
    From my Citizen Wells postings:

    Citizen Wells, respectfully, I would pose the same question here as I posed to Commander Kerchner over at Attorney Apuzzo’s site:

    “Commander Kerchner:–

    Just saw onlne the video played at the Terry Lakin Court Martial and simply must ask, WHY NO MENTION OF OBAMA’S DAD PRECLUDING OBAMA AS A “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”???

    He only speaks about the Hawaii Birth certificate.

    The Hawaii Birth issue is a RED HERRING, RED HERRING, RED HERRING.

    Since you met with Lt Col. Lakin, I MUST ask, do you suspect anything “fishy” there??? (I would hate to believe this, but, but, but, i.e., planted Obot set up to divert from real issue?)

    Please give your opinion.”

    Maybe Lt.Col. Lakin was duped by Team Obama so the likes of CNN can divert from the real legal impediment to Obama’s eligibility (his dad was British) to the Hawaii birth certificate — and THAT IS the conspiracy!

  52. 150 karen December 16, 2010 at 9:40 am

    Dr Kate it was so nice to finally meet you and general kirschner and orly and the other patriots. i am just sad that i had to drive all that way to see the death of are great country.

    I kept thinking the militray was on are side and it broke my heart to find out that most of the ones I talked to who wen’ent involved in the trial did’nt even now about it and the ones in the trial were all laughing and joking with the obots.

    please work with dr orly to take this case to the supreme court. or what about england? if obama is an english citizen by vattel maybe we can get england involved.

  53. 152 WhereIsHonesty December 16, 2010 at 10:35 am

    LTC Lakin is right.

    Now there are three more casualties of war: Our nation and military destroying integrity, honesty and justice. I’m sure all Annapolis enrollees are now being allowed to not disclose their personal, medical, education and other qualifying records to become officers.

    Politicians can become president, only leaders can effectively serve as Commander-in-Chief.

    The President’s example and the Military’s Moral Dilemma

    Obama and the Military’s Moral Dilemma

    Teenage soldiers return home in flag-draped coffins to a grown man-and president who runs out to the airport in darkness to stand and salute for a photo op.

  54. 153 Dora December 16, 2010 at 11:13 am

    After reading through these comments, all I can say is that – I’m confused.

    Dr. Kate in jail? Dr. Manning dragged out of the courtroom?

    Please tell me these things are not true!

    I’m afraid that this site has been interferred with.

  55. 154 ObamaRelease YourRecords December 16, 2010 at 11:28 am

    Major General Paul Vallely, Dr. Kate, and Dr. Corsi on the Peter Boyles radio show to discuss LTC Lakin’s court-martial and conviction – 12/16/10 –

  56. 155 tfb December 16, 2010 at 11:49 am

    By the 20th amendment, and the fact Congress never vetted or qualified Obama (they did McCain and former candidates), Obama quite simply “IS NOT” president:
    “if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

    So I might as well say I am president, since I’m no less qualified than Ofraud.

  57. 157 eddie h. December 16, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    i heard one of the prosecutors at the trial mentioned eligibility and the defense failed to jump on it. all the talk about a birth certificate from lakin and others and nothing about obamas father being a kenyan and not an american citizen. if things continue going the way they are obama will play this out for four years.

  58. 158 Quantum Leap December 16, 2010 at 2:22 pm

    drkate was mentioned by Maureen Dowdy aka howdy doody. LOL and Howdy Doody mentioned pastor manning calling him James something or other
    9 Days until Christmas.

  59. 160 Real American December 16, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Your hero, soon to be ex-LTC Lakin is going to Leavenworth, then they are booting him out of the Army, and taking away his pension. Justice is served.

    • 161 Miri December 16, 2010 at 4:58 pm

      Aren’t you now so proud of your apparent hero? A man who can save another man’s life, career, and family by simply producing a piece of paper he claims to have and which he claims is valid and will prove his eligibility, yet he prefers to send the man to prison?

    • 162 Debbie G December 16, 2010 at 4:58 pm

      @realamerican….and you call yourself a real american????
      I think not!

  60. 163 ladysforest December 16, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Hi DrKate-

    Lame Cherry mentioned your blog and your experience with LTC Lakin:


    The summation of Dr. Catherine Vandemoer of Dr. KatesView Blog sums it up completely, “I am angry about this. The system has failed. They crushed him, and the questions about Obama’s eligibility have still not been answered.”

    THEY CRUSHED HIM, there can be no more fitting analysis of this in the Obama regime in with their nefarious, notorious notchlings have literally tormented and tortured Terry Lakin in thee most inhumane way.”

  61. 168 Mick December 16, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    This whole affair reeks of set up., maybe even w/ Lakin involved. He just doesn’t seem smart enough to be a surgeon.
    Dr Kate needs to stop supporting these doomed to fail escapades by easily ridiculed people like Lakin. The BC issue will not be addressed. It is the dual citizenship at birth issue that needs to be hammered home. The message needs to be more focused.
    Obama knew that once he moved past the “president-elect” phase, after the Electoral College, and the swearing in, that it would be hard to unseat him, do to the political question doctrine, and the legal fiction of “standing”. The Electoral College was fixed, w/ Dick Cheney being as culpable as anyone (he is dispicable), and the swearing in was fixed beforehand by the agreement that Roberts would publicly flub the oath, only to supposedly do it again in private (no public record of it). Roberts probably balked, but knew that he had no role at that point.
    Leo Donofrio is right. The only way to disgourge Obama from office is the Quo Warranto statute of the DC District, as laid out by the 25th Amendment, and the DC District Code. Like he said, ALL efforts outside of that will fail. That is why the Solicitor General had no response to the Kerchner suit, he knew that there would be no standing. Marbury v. Madison is dead, w/ respect to SCOTUS Constitutional review. The rule of law has been eroded to the point where the Constitution means very little at this point. Witness the “Are you kidding?” response to the question poses to Pelosi about where the Constitution allows the insurance mandate. Also witness the fact that neither Kegan nor Sotomayor recused themselves.
    The disenfranchised Chrysler dealers have the best standing at this point, and the new congress certainly helps, although they will still circle the wagons to protect their treason. Do the newly elected Tea Party members have the intestinal fortitude to publicize the true violation of Dual allegiance at birth? I don’t know, but this is what needs to be hammered into the public conciousness, not the BC issue.
    Obama’s illegal use of TARP to gift Chrysler to Fiat, and disenfranchise the Chrysler dealers went against the legal use of TARP for the Distressed banking sector. The PTB are trying to slow him down and run out the clock, so that they may set the precedent for the Usurpation. The judiciary is hopelessly politicized and corrupt. The Chrysler dealers have standing once they have exhausted all legal avenues, and TPTB know that. Congress must ultimately unseat Obama after a QW verdict is attained. THERE IS NO OTHER constitutional avenue before the next election. ALL of these other cases were doomed to fail, just like Donofrio said. It is time to move forward. If QW is not attained prior to the next election, there are laws, like here in Fla., that allow a registered voter TAXPAYER to have standing to contest the eligibility of a candidate within 10 days of an election. You all need to review the statutes in your states, and oppose Obama’s eligibility, as well as Jindal’s, if he runs.

    Here is a review of TARP and it’s use to disenfranchise Chrysler dealers:

    There is no other avenue, Donofrio is right.

  62. 169 Think About What The Flubbed Oath Implies December 16, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Mick wrote: “the agreement that Roberts would publicly flub the oath, only to supposedly do it again in private (no public record of it).”

    Woah. I never made that connection before. An invalid oath in public and then *who* *knows* *what* done in private.

    Question: why didn’t they videotape the *valid* oath, if it really happened? Something that important and they make sure there’s no actual record of what really happened? No reporters. No video. Not even an audio tape. Something as historically significant as the swearing in of the President and somehow we end up with no evidence that it actually happened? Really? Really?

    Question: they released a still photo of what was allegedly the re-do of the oath … and then people noticed something missing … NO BIBLE. Google it. Just two people with their hands raised. Why? Perhaps because the “do-over” picture was staged and never a real attempt to administer a valid oath?

    Mick added: “Roberts probably balked, but knew that he had no role at that point.”

    I’m not so sure. Why does it look like all of this happened in a rush? I suspect that at the last minute Roberts worked up the nerve to say “I respect the constitution too much to swear in someone who is obviously not constitutionally qualified to be President.” And then what are they going to do? They (by which I mean those who really pull the strings) stay in power by maintaining a facade of “orderly” government so people don’t pay close attention. So they cut a deal.

    So far so good but follow me to where this leads us. Roberts agrees to flub the oath and pretend it was done again in private. Obama agrees to go along too, blackmailed over the non-existent birth certificate and who knows what else, plus he gets to pretend to be President so long as he defers on key issues.

    The big-name conservative pundits like Limbaugh and Beck quietly get the word not to make an issue of Obama’s ineligibility to be President. And they know what’s good for them, so they don’t. A bunch of second stringers and wannabes follow their example without knowing the real story: Obama’s hasn’t *really* been sworn in as President so ultimately his eligibility is a non-issue and calling too much attention to it could undo the useful facade maintained by those who really call the shots.

    Many people have wondered why Beck and Coulter and others who are usually so unafraid of exposing coverups and unafraid of wading into controversy, and who are as opposed to Obama as anyone in the world, have all run away from something as cut and dried as this issue. Very hard to explain. Until you consider the implications of The Flub and the remarkable fact that there is NO evidence that Obama was ever validly sworn into office.

    It explains a lot. It explains a *whole* lot. It explains why Beck and Coulter and so many others run away from the subject, and even help ridicule the independent bloggers who dare to dig into the matter. It explains why there is no evidence, *none whatsoever*, of Obama having been validly sworn into office. It explains why the only photo released of the alleged “do-over” shows signs of being staged, and badly staged at that.

    Just one loose thread but it’s a doozy: who did Roberts *really* swear in, after the intentional flub and pretended private ceremony?

    • 170 attilasdaughter December 16, 2010 at 6:32 pm

      Joe the Biden

      • 171 attilasdaughter December 16, 2010 at 6:39 pm

        here is a picture of the oath.
        with bible and everything….

        • 172 Think About What The Flubbed Oath Implies December 16, 2010 at 7:38 pm

          I think the original poster is right that this goes back to Roberts. I’d bet that Roberts didn’t give any warning of what he was planning to do. He just flubbed it on purpose on national TV, because if he’d threatened not to administer an unconstitutional oath someone else would have been found to take his place (and he’d have probably found himself watching the ceremony from a hospital bed or something that would explain why he couldn’t be there). The Constitution doesn’t require that the chief justice administer the oath. But the Constitution does specify the exact wording of the oath.

          And then, if this is really what happened, Roberts apparently refused to do a “do-over” out of respect for the constitution. Look at the photo. It looks more like two people about to do a high-five than a ceremony to administer the oath of office. If Roberts had been cooperating they would have staged it to look genuine. And they would have filmed it and released the footage to silence any doubt about whether the oath was actually administered at all.

          Proof of Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be President? Good question. But *first* prove to me that he actually *is* president. Don’t try to tell me the oath of office, a moment of historical importance and a strict requirement for becoming president as spelled out in the Constitution, was administered in secret, without video or audio recording, and with just one photo that doesn’t even look legit as the “evidence” released to the press. As “evidence” goes that’s more laughable than the alleged birth announcements in the local Honolulu newspapers.

          • 173 Think About What The Flubbed Oath Implies December 16, 2010 at 7:43 pm

            Looks like my first paragraph was cut off. I agreed with you that Biden is a likely answer to the question. A convenient patsy. And as you point out, the only one we have any evidence was administered a valid oath of office that day.

            • 174 attilasdaughter December 16, 2010 at 7:51 pm

              I remember there were rumors that some “journalists” were present at the second oath. Who? No idea.

              This is all very strange, indeed.

              And the two people that looked truly happy on that Januar day were Laura Bush and Joe Biden. LOL!

              • 175 Helen December 16, 2010 at 8:01 pm

                November 29, 2010 at 3:10 pm
                Remind yourselves, who was it that appointed Roberts?

                Then ask who was it in office when State was broken into with no real investigation?

                And then ask yourselves who the President of the Senate was on the day the corporation’s board of directors were asked to vote Yay but not Nay whisking a dual and possibly tri national into the office of POTUS?

                Once you’ve discovered this answer, google 41 and his speech on September 11, 1991 selling the New World Order.

                SCOTUS works for the corporation NOT the people. I for one am thrilled they didn’t take it up for two reasons –

                1. This ruling will awaken even more of those fence sitters who are still struggling with the realization that DC is not and has not worked for you and me since 1871.

                2. The Rockefeller Foundation is rumored to have a new Constitution waiting for the perfect opportunity to implement. SCOTUS may have very well been that vehicle.


                Now you’re getting it!!!

                And to think I was the one put in moderation, yet the individual who chose to ridicule and call me a Nazi and a Pharasee posted with liberty.

              • 176 Think About What The Flubbed Oath Implies December 16, 2010 at 8:21 pm

                “Journalists” who weren’t taking photos or videos and didn’t have any recorders running. Right. The Washington Times article about this even calls it a “secret trip to the White House” for Roberts. A secret that lasted just long enough to complete the alleged do-over before a press release was made. So then what was the point of keeping it secret, we might ask? And we might note in passing that he announcement of the secret do-over oath wasn’t made by the alleged press in attendance. The announcement was made by Obama’s lawyer.

                Nope. Nothing suspicious here.

  63. 177 ladysforest December 16, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    WND has mentioned you also Dr.Kate:

    “Lakin backers traveled from all over the country to attend the court martial. At least three times they were cautioned by Lind to remain silent after erupting into applause for Lakin.

    “I am angry about this,” said observer Dr. Catherine Vandemoer, a well-known blogger on eligibility issues who traveled from North Dakota to support Lakin. “The system has failed,” said Vandemoer, who writes the DrKatesView blog. “They crushed him, and the questions about Obama’s eligibility have still not been answered.”

    Lakin’s defense has not yet announced whether they will appeal the verdict, but court observers contend that the verdicts should be appealed even though Lakin technically forfeited his right to appeal three of the convictions by pleading guilty.

    “Lind denied Lakin discovery. She excluded all evidence about Obama’s eligibility because revealing the documents might prove ’embarrassing’ to Obama,” said Vandemoer. “These would seem to be appealable items.”

    • 178 BirtherLover December 17, 2010 at 3:35 am

      Would be, except that he pled guilty. No appeal if you plead guilty. One would think a doctor would be able to put that shit together.

    • 180 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 9:24 am

      Hey Good Buddy, just to let you know, my phone froze. I mean literally. It bit the dust.

      What I wanted to convey to you that you would have been very proud of Terry. He succumbed to scourging and he put his Mother above everything. Yes, he did. He remembered from whence he came.
      It was heartbreaking. It was honorable. It was human.

  64. 181 no-nonsense-nancy December 16, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    Hi everyone, this is the first I have had a chance to read anything on line all week. It has been very busy and tiring. Wow, what an experience! to see how a military court marshal proceeds, even though it was a kangaroo court.

    I feel that I must clarify some of these ridiculous rumors that are floating on this post. First of all, NO, Dr. Kate was not arrested and non of us sent to Fema camps. Pastor Manning was held yesterday for a while because of a ridiculous issue of entering the wrong gate in the morning even though each person has to be let through.

    There were no chem trails, at least not that we could see. The only thing we saw in the sky was snow today.

    Everyone in the courtroom were quiet and respectful to the court at all times. In fact, we had to strain our ears to hear since they used no microphones. I probably only comprehended half of what was said because I really had a difficult time hearing.

    Terry needed to plead guilty to disobeying the orders to deploy because that is what he did do. Judge Lind gave him no due process and was told he could not call any witnesses or defend himself. So he had no choice. They wee not allowed to bring up the eligibility issue and so they didn’t but it was brought up by the prosecution and they used it to convict him.

    Terry showed the utmost courage, integrity, valor, devotion as you would want to see. We can all be very proud of him. He is a true hero and will go down in history as such. We need pray for him and his family because his sentence will be very difficult for them.

    He was described as the army’s most qualified, talented and dedicated of doctors. They have never had a doctor with 3 certifications and probably never will. It seemed that they were especially angry at his doing what he did. So what do they do, they throw him out of the army! You go army! You are so smart!

    • 182 Debbie G December 17, 2010 at 12:43 am

      Thank you NNN….nice recap….This is pathetic to say the least…the dirty Bas****’s will all fry in Hell when the day comes…I feel BAD for Terry but if I had my day in court I would have yelled out everything I know about the usurper till they took me out fighting…It was BRIEFLY on faux news tonight with Meggan and mande me want to throw a shoe throught the t.v.
      I will write them in the morning that I no longer will watch their B.S. and will spread the word to all I know….
      This is PURE and SIMPLE, rigged and in so denial B.S!
      Glad you and Drkate are safe and Thank YOU for trying and being their for all of US….

    • 183 Miri December 17, 2010 at 10:24 am

      Sit on it. And spin!

    • 184 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 10:42 am


      take two thorazine tablets, a wellbutrin, a shot of Jack and lay down for awhile.

      you’ll be come to in day or two. a straightjacket, a pair of goggles and a commercial respirator will keep it from coming back.

      ohh, and its blue or yellow or has a rainbow tint, don’t eat it just in case.

      disenchantment is the new delirious, I guess. I read it in Revelations, I think.

  65. 185 no-nonsense-nancy December 16, 2010 at 11:32 pm

    It really took me back to hear an army prosecutor tell the members(jury) that it isn’t the place for the army to up hold the constitution! Yes, he did day that!

    • 186 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 9:41 am

      Yes, Nancy. I look forward to my old age when these military officers will one day have to bow down low and scrape to the turban-wearing potus/ scotus. They are only in their 30s, early 40s now.

      One day they will be proud of what they did yesterday since you only have to have one American teen-aged mother and infer that you may have been born in what we now call the United States of America.

      Hope these astute future subjects will be able to pronounce the name. They can always take a sharpie and spell it out phonetically on the palms of their hand if it is to be tolerated.

      It has been authorized indelibly by the Court Martial of Dr. Terrance Lakin, convicted felon. December 16th, 2010 exAD.

      Unfortunately, they may not be able to view the Lifetime Movie as it may interfere with the State’s mandate not to perceive graven images.

    • 187 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 10:51 am

      That was the point that drove the “dismissal”. Proof was found in the Youtube evidence that got snuck in the sentencing evidence as an afterthought. Remember. All Rise. Be Seated. Okay. All Rise.

      It is not a military Officer’s duty to safeguard the Constitution.

      The rookie prosecutor (a.k.a The Government) said so.

      So now that its in automatic appeal because the “dismissal” has been declared, he can come back and tell the appellate board its not their duty either since he said so in Court Martial proceedings.

      Court Martial statements/ arguments are superior to the Constitution now.

      It on the record.

  66. 188 ObamaRelease YourRecords December 17, 2010 at 12:09 am

    New Details From LTC Lakin’s Court-Martial The Media Will Not Report; Concern About Obama’s Eligibility Throughout the Chain-of-Command —

    This snippet posted below was published by Col. Sullivan from the CAAFlog blog(anti-Lakin). I’m very surprised Col. Sullivan was able to keep his ridicule of LTC Lakin down to a minimal in his latest writings on LTC Lakin’s court-martial. What this blog shows is that there are real concerns about Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be CiC all the way up the chain-of-command. I can’t wait until the official trial transcripts are released.

    Snippet via CAAFlog; LTC Lakin continued that he became the chief of primary care at the Pentagon’s clinic in July 2009. Mr. Puckett then observed that the purpose of the hearing was for the members to determine an appropriate sentence. He then discussed the origins of LTC Lakin’s offenses.

    He testified that he started to have concerns about the Constitution during the primary elections, when he was stationed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds. He learned that there was controversy as to the natural-born-citizen status of both major political parties’ general election candidates. He said Senator McCain provided everything he could to address his status, including a birth certificate with the doctor’s name and hospital’s name. He compared that with the lack of scrutiny that Senator Obama received. He had questions about the image of a certificate of live birth on the Internet and relatives stating they were present at his birth in Kenya. He said he had an open mind, but he was skeptical. One candidate went through scrutiny, but there was a lack of information as to the other.

    Mr. Puckett pressed, “Why were you so interested in this?” I think he expected the answer to be because of the oath of office, but LTC Lakin instead gave an answer about reading newspapers. LTC Lakin testified that after the election, he became “extremely concerned.” He said the issue wasn’t about politics or anything else (probably an implicit denial of racism) but the Supreme Law of the Land. He stated that he “wanted a valid Commander-in-Chief.” He testified that after the election, he was no longer comfortable with being selected for deployment. He was “concerned that the Constitution wasn’t being followed.” He believes his “oath as an officer is to protect and defend the Constitution.” He believed questions about the President’s eligibility “may weaken the Constitution.” He said he doesn’t know if the President is ineligible and he doesn’t believe that anyone can know.

    Neal Puckett asked, “What did you do as a soldier.” LTC Lakin said his “sought out advice” from his command and from his friends. He contacted legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, who said they would research the issue and get back to him, but then they would never return his calls. He talked to his commander and supervisor who said there was an issue and there were questions, but they did not know what to do to answer them. He then filed an Article 138 complaint. He was asking, “Please, someone in my command, tell me there’s not an issue about illegal orders.” He submitted the Article 138 complaint to his company commander and asked him to forward it. The reply he received back was that his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didn’t have to answer it.

    LTC Lakin then wrote letters to his two Senators and Congressman. One Senator didn’t reply. One said the issue had been raised “and Twittered about and been found not to be an issue.” His Congressman forwarded his letter to Military Affairs.

    He continued to “pursue what else I could do.” When he was transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinic’s commander. He “acknowledged concern” but had no guidance as to what to do. LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey. (BTW, it would later come out that he was referred to Paul Rolf Jensen while he was at Aberdeen Providing Ground, so it seems likely that he was working with Mr. Jensen at the time he filed this Article 138 complaint.) The response he received back was that General Casey wasn’t in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldn’t be addressed.

    LTC Lakin then became aware he was “on the short-list for deployment. This greatly concerned me.” He went to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. He was told that the issue was a concern, but the media ridiculed it, so they let it go.

    He was advised to go to Afghanistan and then raise the issue while he was on deployment. He considered this a “worse” option. He said it would be “extremely wrong to raise this in a combat zone.”

    Mr. Puckett asked, “You thought if the Commander-in-Chief wasn’t eligible, you thought your deployment order might retroactively be considered an illegal order.” LTC Lakin agreed.

    Mr. Puckett asked when LTC Lakin first sought the advice of an attorney. He answered that it was two-and-a-half years ago. He was the leader of an intermediate level school small group. There were JAGs in the group. He discussed his concerns with the JAGs and asked what he should do. One of the JAGs referred him to Paul Jensen and LTC Lakin called him. He said he “ultimately hired” Mr. Jensen.

    He then testified about receiving his deployment orders. At the bottom of the orders, it said he had to bring a copy of his birth certificate. He said, “I thought, there’s an issue here.” That was followed first by laughter from the birthers in the audience, and then by applause, bring another sharp, “Members of the gallery!” from Judge Lind.

    He said that in March 2010, he turned to Mr. Jensen for legal advice. When asked about Mr. Jensen’s advice, LTC Lakin replied, “There’s a Kenyan birth certificate.” He said that on Mr. Jensen’s advice, he decided not to deploy. Mr. Puckett then asked, “Who made the decision to say to your command, ‘I’ll deploy if the President shows he’s eligible?’” LTC Lakin said he did. Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose fault was it?” LTC Lakin replied, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose responsibility was it?” LTC Lakin answered, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett elicited LTC Lakin’s response that he didn’t think his orders were illegal, but he “still thought there was a constitutional issue.”

    He agreed with Mr. Puckett that he used his deployment orders as a vehicle to increase the level of attention that the issue would receive. He confirmed that there were “lots of people urging you to stick to your guns.” In a reply likely to hurt him with the members, he answered: “Yes, including enlisted members and officer members.”


    • 189 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 10:04 am

      Isn’t it grand! Puckett can now add Lt. Col. Terrance Lakin to his resume.

      Merry Christmas, Mr. Puckett with the white bright smile.

      No coal for you. Just for your client. You can have his 3 year old “cherub” ‘s stocking too. A keepsake, Sir.

      You did say on Day One after the brilliant strategy to pleading guilty to Charge Two with four multiple specifications to just wait to see what other trick you had up your sleeve.

      Let’s all give a hat tip to the great Dr. Houdini. He can cure cancer with a twinkle in his eye and belly full like a bowl of genetically modified jelly.

      ~ with gratitude, ORYR, it’s just a simple request. Just a minor detail that will haunt us all til the day we die and are dumped on some biodegradable field. Maybe the Gulf of Mexico. It could use a hefty dose of American fossils, I hear.

      Puckett may have a higher calling in all of this. He’s a wizard in absolution. On your knees and say the act of contrition in unison, he will make you feel worthy to be persecuted and you will feel absolved. A Lamb of Lind, mercy granted, liberated in truth. Penance is the price. He will set you free with in 5 months with good behavior. Go in peace and sin no more. You no longer have cancer, stupid.

    • 190 ladysforest December 18, 2010 at 4:42 pm

      Thank you for this account.

      • 191 Papoose December 18, 2010 at 5:45 pm

        And I thank you, for this testimony and forum to speak freely as a natural born citizen. It is this courageous stance that we welcome and assimilate with Peoples all over the world that want to be identified as American regardless of the their origins.

        In “sticking to our guns”, we Americans from all walks of a life from all 4 corners of the Globe will ensure our 2nd generation that they too can aspire to lawfully hold the office of the President of the United states despite their gender, race, creed, personal pursausions as long as they adhere to the Original Constitution and its ratified Amendments.

        Not so for barky’s children, however, should he ever be discovered to be 1) a foreigner at birth or choice or circumstance 2) unNaturalized due to arrogance or choice or procrastination or 3) a liar according to Dreams of My Father and the Audacity to Hope … 4) …

        His beautiful daughters will be required as all American contenders are required to be in ORDER to hold the office of POTUS, declared natural born citizens at the time of their birth, meaning he should prove it now, once and for all. For the sake of his daughters, to whom he sings, he should provide the evidence that his own father did not have as he was a sojourner skipping stones in the American pond solely to advance his financial and political benefit.

        Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was and is a nobody in American History until the Weather Underground and Chicago City Hall decided to make him a somebody. The guy was a mere benefactor of the American citizenry’s kindness and generosity. nothing more whatsoever.

        barky, prove to your Daughters, that they are Natural Born American Citizens, today. Prove to these little girls that they are second generation Americans and qualified and eligible to seek the office of Presidency if they one day chose to apply.

        I dare you. For them, I also sing.

        Show us, don’t tell us.

  67. 192 JustaFly December 17, 2010 at 6:38 am

    Very concise and accurate account Dr. Kate. I look forward to your update on the third day’s events.

    Terry fought the braver and gallant fight. We MUST stand with him and his family as with any warrior ‘wounded in action’!

    • 194 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 10:15 am

      The entire statement from this Defense Attorney’s Victory Speech on his “Call Me” Ad page is extremely important to read in its short entirety, however, this post-trial tidbit which is buried in the text should be understood thoroughly and not missed:

      …”Puckett raised his voice and proceeded to point out through questions and answers from Lakin how he had let down his family, the Army, his Soldiers, and those who need his medical services on the battlefield. This defense tactic totally surprised the client, but enabled the jury to see the depth and agony of the moral issues that led Lakin to make those choices”…

  68. 195 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 7:50 am

    from the Honorable CAAFlog blog

    an example:

    Rob A says:
    December 16, 2010 at 9:52 pm (Quote)

    Who is the human in the scarf. Please tell me it is not Mr. Sullivan-Cave.

    • 196 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 7:57 am

      Rob A says:
      December 16, 2010 at 4:07 pm (Quote)

      “The courtroom was then cleared to allow LTC Lakin privacy.”

      So he could cry again.

      Isn’t that funny? They crack themselves up whilst they defend, serve and protect the courageous incarcerated in Gitmo.

  69. 197 JustaFly December 17, 2010 at 8:04 am

    Terry Lakin was described in court by his superiors and peers as a caring, dedicated warrior soldier who always goes above and beyond his call of duty to serve the men and women, civilian or indigenous. He has a lovely wife (also a medical doctor), stay at home mom to three dedicated and driven pre-teens. They live in a modest home in the center of the federal system in the Baltimore area.

    Colonel Lakin started his quest to determine if Obama was legitimately serving in the office he now sits in by all the proper, respectful questions through his Chain-of-Command up to and including General Casey and filed three Congressional investigation requests NONE were answered. Terry’s questions were for guidance from his superiors, “Is Obama eligible?” Are his orders legal orders?” Fair questions given the surrounding doubts and 100% lack of any confirming evidence from Obama.

    Discovery and witnesses for the defense were denied the defendant by Judge Lind, which in any other venue would be considered a travesty of justice.

    [quote]Amendment V
    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
    Amendment VI
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

    LTC Lakin’s sentence is to be dismissed from the Army (the most disturbing), loss of all pay and 6 months confinement.

    He fought his battle and is now a prisoner-of-war in the battle to “ and defend the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.” The verdicts were not unexpected, the severity of his sentence was.

    I would think that Dr. Lakin’s hope now is for the new Congress to take up this matter in January. He knew the possible consequences when he started this process and accepted the courts decision as the true warrior and gentleman he is. I personally am proud of him for taking a stand against the odds and absorbing the criticism.

    Okay Obamatrons, take your best shots.

    • 198 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 8:57 am

      ironic, ain’t it.

      the very things that could not be uttered, discovered, presented, or examined:
      tangible, hard copy evidence;
      eye witnesses or their relevant testimony;
      no verbiage from the Constitution ~~
      nor any element of the person’s conscience, religion, beliefs or philosophy was permitted to be used as a defense.

      NO THING whatsoever…

      yet, EVERY THING
      that concerned the cause and reason for the offense was used to the hilt and placed deliberately out of context to debate his punishment.

      ~~ Sidebar

      Not one iota of evidence that was presented in the case other than that poor active on-call military couple’s inconvenience to do their duty, was employed to humiliate, sentence and punish the “accused”. Yea, “the disruption” to the Army came in the form of a couple that had to hurry up.

      The “TSA Order” that conveyed the “missing movement” charge stated precisely that the “accused” could have gotten to Fort Campbell on a pogo stick if he wanted to… it stated POV (personally owned vehicle/ any means);

      “missing movement” precisely means missed the actual vehicle of deployment to the theatre and not “that” commercial flight to get to camp 722 miles away.

      Puckett won. No one else.

    • 199 heather December 17, 2010 at 3:51 pm

      And Judge Lind???—–how long will it take her to sleep at night all the while knowing she betrayed a fellow soldier? Yes,–betrayal at the highest — she is not an american patriot–but a bought and paid for piece of crap–what’s her next step I wonder……..

  70. 200 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 8:18 am

    Once in a awhile its good to keep your enemies close; in this case, hateful jackasses. May be good just to collect the IP addresses for future references.

    Verbatim comments here…directly from the observer’s gallery at Fort Meade. Funny, that. Electronic devices were not to be brought into the court room… they weren’t needed as the entire proceedings were captured on closed circuit via a staged camera so to be observed elsewhere.

    ~ wonder where and by whom
    wondering how many cameras were there all together.

  71. 201 Bobby December 17, 2010 at 8:56 am

    Why all the sound & fury? LTC Lakin is guilty of not following orders. LTC Lakin will probably be assigned to Ft Leavenworth and will serve his tour of duty there as a member of the medical staff.

    The discussion should be about will he be nonretained in the service after his punishment tour is complete, and will he retain his military retirement benefits and pay.

    • 202 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 9:13 am


      no sound, no fury.

      no evidence, either.

      This trial should have taken at least two weeks. not two days. Actually the guy who found it personally necessary to take two back-to-back Oaths could have prevented the whole thing. You know, “just to be sure”. (I’m winking)

      The profound matter could have been faithfully executed to the best of the Commander-In-Chief’s ability to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

      The CIC should have come to the aid of his subordinate in coordinating the discovery since he was the subject. You know, like a minute or two, just to clear up the doubt. He has the power and documents. But you know, being a community organizer and all…

      an American Soldier asked you a a simple question, barky.

  72. 203 no-nonsense-nancy December 17, 2010 at 9:17 am

    Disenfranchised, why don’t yo get off of this blog? You are poison. I, for a fact, know that I am not in a Fema camp because I am safe in my modest but comfortable home this morning. And you are SO insulting about the snow. I was raised in the snow belt of PA and I know that it was snowing yesterday! NO CHEM TRAILS WHATSOEVER!! If in fact it was chemicals and not snow all over my car and the roads I think I should be pretty darn sick this morning! IDIOT! Why do you people bother to listen to those idiots putting out the ‘news’ anyway. You knew Dr. Kate would give you the right news as soon as she had a chance. We positively couldn’t have any cell phones or computers in there. We went through security each time we entered the building.

    Each and everyone there sacrificed money and time to be there to support Terry, so please give us some respect.

    PS I would never put my picture up on this or any blog, so forget that idea.


  73. 204 Merlin's Apprentice December 17, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Trying to make political statements through the military justice system is never a good idea. Military brass avoid politics whenever possible. There was never any doubt that Col. Lakin would be found guilty of the charges against him. Military courts martial proceedings are very strict affairs that simply don’t allow for the circus atmosphere of civilian criminal and civil trials. There is no glory or profit motive to drive the military justice system.

    Col. Lakin’s trial was never about anything other than Col. Lakin’s violations of the UCMJ and had no chance in hell of compelling discovery of the President’s birth records. Col. Lakin’s cause may be just, but his mistaken choice of venue has cost him dearly. An appeal within the military justice system is unlikely since it would deal with nothing more than the facts already in evidence.

    Sadly, this is not the first time a service member has received poor advice/representation by a civilian lawyer(s) trying to operate within the military justice system. Even more sad is the fact that it will surely happen again.

    • 205 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 12:54 pm

      I respect your opinion more that you may realize, Merlin’s Apprentice.

      It not political. Its not policy. Its not a temporary statute.

      Its the Constitution, the supreme law of our nation and the Oaths we solemnly swear to uphold:

      to Preserve, Protect and Defend

      unlawful orders could land a good soldier’s butt in Geneva.

      we have international laws now these days, and unfortunately, they do not favor America’s military or our strategies.

      Its about the Law. Its about Patriotism.

      Politics is making policy, like subjecting sovereign States and their citizens to submit and subjugate to their newspeak Orwellian tactics to own your wallet, your property and your person and your thoughts.

      example: we need to pass it so we’ll know what’s in it.

      example: I don’t have tome to read all that stuff. I rely on my staff to interpret it.

      example: You have no standing

      example: The DOJ suing the State of Arizona for enforcing Federal law

      example: The State Department citing the State of Arizona to the UN for Human Rights violations


      • 206 Merlin's Apprentice December 17, 2010 at 3:53 pm

        You are absolutely correct.

        Col. Lakin’s principled stand on the President’s constitutional eligibility issue was successful in terms of generating awareness, but otherwise it was doomed from inception. It should come as no surprise that Col. Lakin freely admitted to the charges against him. To deny his actions would have been less than honorable. He did “miss movement” and did disobey direct orders. His willingness to stand tall on principle is admirable, but again, the military justice system is simply the wrong venue to challenge a President’s eligibility to hold office.

        As far as I know the route to proper jurisdiction and matters of standing regarding a challenge to the President’s constitutional eligibility were pretty much mapped out by Judge Carter when dismissing a case before him in California a year or so ago. The best explanation of that roadmap I’ve read came from Leo Donofrio’s blog… and I have no idea if its still available. I’m certainly no lawyer, but my understanding is that the route is known… its just a massive mountain to climb as relates to both time and treasure. The office will probably be occupied by another holder long before a proper challenge could be concluded.

  74. 207 Guano Cravat December 17, 2010 at 9:33 am

    This is bad.
    Is the fund still open? Can we, should we, contribute still so that colonel lakins family can get some money to live. is anyone Workinog on that.
    WShy why did terry tell this judge his orders were legal, he kept saying it several times. this judge was out to make him confess and i did — why. I don’t understand why he would do that. it just doesn’t make sence.
    i dont get it, if the order was not lawful why did tefry plead guilty, why did he say that it was legal under oath if it wasn’t. Is the system corrupt?

    • 208 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 12:56 pm

      His attorney deliberately convicted him.

      The first words he utter in open statements was directed to the Government in response to the Government’s opening statement:

      I agree with 98% of everything you said…

    • 209 eddie h. December 17, 2010 at 1:51 pm

      guano cravat— i agree this does not add up with me either. lt. col. lakin should noy have pleaded guilty to any charges. and what really frustrates me is to hear him admit he was wrong apologizing to the army and requesting to stay in the army under an illegal usurpur c i c . and potus. the army in my view should be apologizing to lakin and arresting obama for treson fraud forgery and other charges. i believe lakin was only given 6 months in prison so as to wash the issue away quickly. the army and obama hope all will be buried after 6 months with the help of the msm .

  75. 210 no-nonsense-nancy December 17, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Papoose, that’s Terry’s mother in that picture. She was wearing that scarf on the first day standing out in the cold before they let us in. I can allso recognize her features under the scarf. That may have been taken when they were taking him away. Ita looks like the building.

    I’m sitting here before my computer crying. All of America should be crying.

    • 211 TruePatriotLove December 17, 2010 at 10:00 am

      Listen you obot impersonator. You are not fooling us. We know that you kidnapped Dr. Kate, Nancy, and Rev. Manning. And we are going to find them.

    • 213 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 12:58 pm

      I know, Nancy.

      Aren’t they cruel?

      These are the Military’s top shelf Court martial experts that allowed that to post. They sat in the court room day in day out loving themselves. Laughing and snickering during live testimony.

      Very telling.

    • 214 JustaFly December 17, 2010 at 8:56 pm

      Hi n-n-Nancy! This is the aide-de-campe for Charlie. I need to get used to using this blog thing. Nice to meet you.

      I’m just a fly on the wall.

  76. 215 Papoose December 17, 2010 at 10:31 am

    The Court Martial of Lt. Col. Terrance Lakin is an epiphany.

    Take heed. It’s perilous, indeed.

  77. 216 Noway2no December 17, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    To all the traitors, and sadly there are many too many:

    “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude more than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget you were our countrymen.”

    Samuel Adams

  78. 217 tiger 7 December 17, 2010 at 1:50 pm

    LtC Lakin is now, or will be, Dr. Lakin and as such he will have access to civil courts. He will also have “standing”—which until now has been the skirt that judges have cowered behind. It will be very interesting to see what follows.

    The box around bho is becoming sturdier all the time and January 5 is not far distant.

    • 218 eddie h. December 17, 2010 at 4:58 pm

      tiger 7—- dont rely on the 112th congress. many of them are tea party people who have ran away from the obama eligibility issue. the others are complicit ones in the fraud and know to act will expose them. i keep warning people not to plan on big things happening in 2011 with congress. a massive movement on washington is going to be required to resolve the obama illegal situation. dont sit around and get surprised again. the time will just get wasted and obama gets more powerful with corruption.

  79. 219 tfb December 17, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    gunlovingpatriot, birtherlover, sound like bots to be deleted

  80. 220 Guano Cravat December 17, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Huum, over at CAAFLog, that den of deniers is saying that there was a witness who testified that she told our hero that it was his duty to be on the airplane. they are also saying Dr. Kate stood up and called her a liar. Wher are thy getting their infrmmatoin.

  81. 221 heather December 17, 2010 at 7:00 pm

    I would say that every military member better question every move and every motive of the brass from here on out. They will know now, that they themselves are in trouble with these wars that barry continues to hang onto. They will know that there is no protection or justice for them as there was none for LTC Lakin. This is a scary situation for our troops. They should know also, that barry is a fraud, as too many cover ups and standing issues continue to occur and for a top flight doctor and an officer to put himself in this situation, he must be right—let’s pray that our troops open their eyes and see the truth.

    Barry Soetoro is nothing but a freakn water boy, who takes orders well and threatens those who oppose him. This is not the end of LTC Lakin, this is just the beginning for him and America. I would say, a new beginning is coming and barry and co will see justice prevail against him and co

  82. 223 eddie h. December 17, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    the republicans are going to take up spending acorn investigation and business as usual. i cintinue to warn all not to rely on congress to vett and remove obama. time is going to be wasted. a movement on washington is required to get obama and the other criminals out. every one that wants obama out needs to be realistic. obama is not going to resign and if not removed he will win the election in 2012. he has corrupted every thing.

  83. 224 Papoose December 18, 2010 at 6:06 pm

    Nice job on the clean up, Drkate.

    Hope you didn’t get any on ya.

    Proud to be in your generation.

    Wise words from an honorable Brit with an American Mother who was fully aware he could never be POTUS, just a loyal friend and cousin of the United States of America.

    hmmmm, maybe this is why President Jarrett dispensed of the bust upon inauguration.

    hmmmm, indeed.

  84. 226 tboca January 2, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Good Morning America – God Bless LTC Lakin Just posted this today – keep up the awesome work in behalf a true patriot.

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