YAWN. Alinsky #5, “Ridicule”

©2011 drkate

Hey David PlouffeeFloozy… POOFIE, what’s that “A” on your forehead?  “ALINSKY”, ah.  I get it.  Number 5. Well, here’s one for you, LOL.

White House senior adviser David Plouffe says billionaire Donald Trump has no chance if he decides to make a 2012 presidential run, and his pursuit of President Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a “sideshow,” Politico reports. “I saw Donald Trump kind of rising in the polls. Given his behavior, and the spectacle of the last couple of weeks, I hope he keeps on rising,” Plouffe said the issue of Obama’s birth will not impact the 2012 presidential election because the American people are focused on the economy and national security.

Let’s analyze these juicy words which give away in an instant–

  • Intellectual dishonesty
  • No regard for the American people
  • Condescension, arrogance, and conceit
  • Panic…got depends?
From their Alinsky handbook, rule No. 5.
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”
What makes the Obamas, JarRAT, POOFIE, ASShack, and the lame stream media think that the use of this tactic again (yawn) will do anything to drive ‘those darn birthers‘ away?  I mean, they tried ignoring us, and it didn’t work; then they ridiculed all of us, and that didn’t work, so, um, why don’t you just fight us and lose, to get it over with? 😛
David POOFIE does a poor job here of trying to disguise his tactics and strategy…here are the underlined words and my translation…
  • no chance”–sorry you’re nervous POOFIE
  • “side show”–you’ve ignored it for so long you thought it was
  • “behavior”–no, it was facts and speaking out about it with knowledge
  • “spectacle”–not backing down from the cynical, lying media
  • “Obama’s birth”–its not ‘birth’, it’s natural born citizenship
As if perfectly, transparently, paid for timed, the disgraced ex-director of the HDOH repeats her disgrace once again…but this time it is too late as Abercrombie already blew her alibi out the window, as did Miss Tickly.
The New Obot Line

$2 million to hide kindergarten records

Yesterday a tin-headed obot visited this site with a new assignment…daring us to prove anything about obama.  How sick is that?  Actually saying “you guy’s can’t prove anything”…trying to bait us to respond, and waste time.  Of course this idiot was quite easily spotted and was ridiculed, identified, and booted to spam.  He employed Alinsky’s #4.

“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.

Our own strict rules of information collection and verification…the botfly says “prove it”.  He also uses Alinsky # 5, and then tries but fails to keep up the pressure to get our reaction a la Alinsky # 10:

“The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.”

I guess this is the campaign to protect obama, but in reality, it is the campaign to defeat America.  Implemented by the willing obotic tin-heads.

Let Them Know

Yawn.  Ok, what’s the next tactic you will use, Obama?  Another false flag?  More ridicule?  More political prisoners?

They are all hat, and no cattle.

139 Responses to “YAWN. Alinsky #5, “Ridicule””

  1. 1 drkate April 11, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Poofie is right on one thing…we won’t hire anyone to destroy america like Obama has.

    the republicans are in this big time. They are currently putting pressure on AZ house speaker like GA house speaker to pull the eligibility bill.

    Hey Sarah Palin, where are you?

  2. 2 Robert April 11, 2011 at 12:30 am

    All very well stated!

  3. 3 anonymouse April 11, 2011 at 2:58 am

    The Scale didn’t apparently go over to FOX where, after 10,000 blog posts there’s maybe a dozen in support of the usurper.

    Look to yourself, Scale, you start with a false premise and then insult, and “ya got nothin'” LOL!!

    91% of Americans know Ofraud is a fraud, and you are the criminal types who supported it.

    Now, be gone.

  4. 5 RichT April 11, 2011 at 3:57 am

    Looks like enemies of our enemies are being targeted to neutralize them and/or gather intel use against.


    That’s because digital devices such as a laptop computer can be seized at the border without a warrant and sent to a secondary site for forensic inspection.

    That ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit last week is the second in less than a year that allows the U.S. government to conduct offsite searches of digital devices seized at the border without a warrant, Network World reported.

  5. 6 RichT April 11, 2011 at 4:04 am


    The Russian security service has proposed banning Skype, Hotmail and Gmail as their “uncontrolled use” could pose a security threat, a service official said during a government meeting on Friday.

    Russian security service wants to ban Skype and Gmail
    The FSB would like to ban these services in Russia because ‘security authorities cannot access them,’ Ilya Massukh was reported as saying Photo: ALAMY
    5:44PM BST 08 Apr 2011

    The comments from the head of the service’s information and special communication centre Alexander Andreyechkin were disowned by the Kremlin but come amid mounting concern over state meddling in the internet in Russia.

    The Federal Security Service (FSB) is “increasingly concerned” by the mass use of these services, which use foreign-made encryption technology, Mr Andreyechkin said, RIA Novosti agency reported.

  6. 7 RichT April 11, 2011 at 5:13 am

    Get ready….

    The screws are being tightened!!!!!

    GOLD: $1475/oz 30 month high
    SILVER: $41.05/oz 30 month high
    OIL: $113/bbl
    CORN: $7.70/bu


    One word (well technically two) can describe what is going on in the electronic pre-market arena right now: inflationary hysteria. Gold is at a new record, wheat is surging, corn is at highest since 2008, crude at a new 30 month high, silver is at $41.10 – a new fresh post Hunt high, beans surging, etc, etc, etc. Essentially everything is bid, following news first reported on Zero Hedge that PIMCO is betting the farm that either inflation is about to go parabolic and force bondholders to dump everything, or that the Fed will have no choice but to pursue another round of QE, sending gold to $2,000 and unleashing the Weimar endgame.

  7. 8 Rene April 11, 2011 at 6:47 am

    This link from Citizen Wells

    Trump is now on the NBC issue. Should not take long now for the house of cards to collapse. Go Donald go.

    • 9 eddie h. April 11, 2011 at 7:53 am

      rene / if the media continues to give trump air time. he may have to run for president to get it. he brought up the term natural born citizen but i dont believe he has gotten in to the definition yet.

  8. 11 RacerJim April 11, 2011 at 7:08 am

    >90% of “We the people…” are on drkate’s side.
    <10% of "We the people…" are on your side.

    What's truely funny is because you can't refute the facts/truth you attack the character of the messenger thereof.

  9. 14 Rosemary Woodhouse April 11, 2011 at 7:43 am

  10. 16 jane April 11, 2011 at 8:09 am

    More GOOD NEWS!

    Obammie want to RAISE TAXES AGAIN!


    just wanna smack that smirky punk arse!

  11. 17 usapatriots-shout April 11, 2011 at 8:11 am


    David Plouffe, the Fluff, made a statement this past weekend that The Donald would never be hired by the American people. He called Mr. Trump a side show and claimed his chances are zero. Oh, oh, oh. How out of touch he is with reality. With incompetent staff like Fluff, Al Sharpton, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Valerie Jarrett and the rest of his motley choices, Barry’s wall of protection is starting to crumble. Obama’s great silence will no longer be tolerated.

    This is so delicious. The Fluff is grasping at any straws. The fear in Washington is becoming uncontrollable. The circus has begun. If Trump is a “side show”, then Obama is the circus freak. When Trump becomes president, he will be the world’s main attraction.

    We need to watch for signs of fear, guilt, and defensiveness from the Sotoero gang. We shall savor every tasty blunder, false accusation, parsed word and stutter as their spin wizards try to diminish Trumps effect. With the pressure Mr. Trump is putting on them right now, they are going to be forced to do two things this week. They won’t do it well.

    1. Respond to the challenge. Show us the birth certificate!

    2. Try to control the damage already Done by The Donald.

    The degree and extent of their lies regarding Obama’s birth place while failing to produce hard core evidence will be a measure of their fear. The depth of their attacks upon Mr. Trump with the challenging patriots will measure of their desperation.

    All those most complicit in committing these and other crimes with Ocriminal will be haunted by their own inner fears of what is going to happen to them, when the master imposter is finally indicted. Trump’s relentless pursuit is going no where but to jail for the Obamas.

  12. 19 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 8:14 am

    false flag alien story….lol…
    A bizarre memo that appears to prove that aliens did land in New Mexico prior to 1950 has been published by the FBI.

    The bureau has made thousands of files available in a new online resource called The Vault.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375203/The-memo-proves-aliens-landed-Roswell–released-online-FBI.html#ixzz1JEBh4ufV

  13. 22 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Sure wish we had documents on the Sotero Alien….just sayin’

    • 23 RacerJim April 11, 2011 at 9:21 am

      What documents on the Soetoro Alien would you like? Back in the mid-80s thru the early 90s I was a free-lance home-based Desktop Publisher and produced all sorts of documents — including an exact replica of the 1990 IRS Form 1040 for use as a fill in the blanks templete for the Desktop Publishing application I was using which, because it isn’t a Mac or PC or Adobe or Microsoft application, the likelyhood that someone could examine the source code of a document image posted on the internet to find out who/when/what/where is virtually zippo. 🙂

  14. 24 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 8:51 am

    for the benefit of those that did not see this on the last thread:

    Up until now, I have somewhat refrained from comment about Trump but feel compelled to express the knot in my gut. We must move beyond voting for narcissists and relying upon the pathology of system management if we expect to resist the vortex of the globalist empire. Trump is a wall street boy. I do not see this ending as any of us would pray for. Does anyone here believe for a minute that Trump is not an empire building narcissist? He is a part of the empire building velocity! If he isn’t forever growing his empire bigger, he loses money and power. That is the globalist formula for knocking God off his natural place at the top of the pecking order. Trump exists in the world of inflation and sucking the interest out of the People to benefit his empire. He does not win unless someone else is losing. He is a part of the elite and we are all being played. We should be digging to see who is pulling his strings instead of getting excited by his narcissistic rhetoric. Ron Paul is your rare small government guy.

    I want to once again urge everyone to take the time to watch the video lessons at http://www.csper.org/renaissance-20.html. If you believe Trump the empire building narcissist is going to turn against the hand that feeds him (the banksters) you are kidding yourself.

    I will really be happy if I’m wrong. Wouldn’t bet on it though. If my intuition is right on this, Trump knows full well that he stands no chance to win. If anyone benefits by this, it will be Hillary and Soros. Obama has always been a fall guy in this theatre. They needed Obama to do the heavy lifting so the elite could sustain their “legacies” and save the day after the Kenyan Marxist nearly destroys Amerika. Trump is setting that up and distracting attention away from the only real People’s choice candidate in the race. If they cannot destroy Ron Paul’s support in the same way they did in the spring of 2008 (by ignoring, marginalizing, poll manipulation and distracting), they will split the vote just like they did for Woodrow Wilson. You can get your hopes up about Trump if you wish, but don’t let them suck all the impetus out of you when the shill fades.

  15. 25 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 9:01 am

    “you are kidding yourself….”

    Go Trump! I smell Flop Sweat all over the place….Keep up the pressure….

  16. 26 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 9:13 am

    I agree that we should keep up the pressure. And we should figure out the best ways to take advantage of Trump’s exposure. Just recognize who and what Trump is and watch for his true motives.

  17. 28 Stock April 11, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Everyone is wary-but none the less, there is a palpable sense of relief-and gratitude that Trump, whatever his failings, faults or motives has single handedly moved our issue into the daylight like never before. I think the saying is, “dont look a gift horse in the mouth”.

    • 29 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 9:44 am

      It is precisely that kind of thinking that got us into a dulocracy. Let’s not be like dogs eating the poisoned meat. If Trump is a Trojan horse, I say we use the opportunity but not sleep while we get our throats slit.

      • 30 Paula April 11, 2011 at 12:08 pm

        Very True! Sleeping is what got our country into this mess. Amusement to dull the senses and cause us to take our eyes off of the most important matters. The media in this country continue to do this…they are lousy, no good, non-profitable to the American citizenry!

  18. 31 Alain April 11, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Tenacity I agree 100% with you on Trump. I am almost convinced he is an obot plant and will suddenly decide he has seen enough info to be convinced obama is eligible. He is too tied in to Wall Street, Soros etc and has 4 dual citizen children. Only the child with Marly Maples is a natural citizen.

    On an exiting note I saw in the last entry that someone named Jill Nagamine the attorney general of Hawaii was on our side. Details please. This sounds very promising.

    • 32 anonymouse April 11, 2011 at 10:19 am

      News: Schwarzenegger is now saying he was born in Hawaii and will run for 2012.

      Hey it worked like a charm last time!

  19. 33 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Black’s Law Dictionary 4th Ed: “dulocracy: A government where servants and slaves have so much license and privilege that they domineer.”

    We are slaves and if we keep hitching our wagons to immoral or amoral narcissists, we deserve our serfdom.

  20. 35 Born in Texas April 11, 2011 at 10:03 am

    I think Savage is pushing Trump’s run for POTUS.

    Personally, I don’t see Trump as a trojan horse (at this point). The question that should be asked is, “Can he be bought?” We know what happened with Sarah Palin. Nice lady, could have had a major influence on BHOs administration, but she lost her influence when she quite the governorship and sold out to Fox. She was bought, albeit, for a very nice price. I wonder if Trump is a Mason? Ron Paul is a Mason and for some reason, I just don’t trust him. He could have pushed the NBC issue in congress BEFORE the election, but he did not. I think he is too tainted for the POTUS, but I like many of his viewpoints on politics.

    I would like to see someone with a character that is unassailable especially in the following areas: finances, taxes, marriage (no divorce(s)), business dealings, business partners, associations, etc. However, this type of person will probably never make it to POTUS. So maybe in a pragmatic sense, Trump is the best we can do. At least he can run a business and multi-task.

    Some complain about how Trump has offshore businesses. Who cares if he has offshore business. When the business tax laws are so strict in this country, I don’t think going offshore is a test of patriotism.

  21. 36 Alain April 11, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Born in Texas the thing is Trump can’t run a business. He has a horrible record. Trump Casinos in bankruptcy. His big building in Chicago he owes Soros 600 million for. I bet he makes more money from his tv show than his businesses.

    I know most of you like him but I am scared and think he is up to no good. I will stick with Huckabee.

    • 37 Troy April 11, 2011 at 11:12 am

      Why did Huckabee destroyed government hard drives before leaving office?

      • 38 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 11:55 am

        Huckabee was also a primary vote splitter for McCain (McCann) and road block for Romney in 2008. Huckabee’s numbers are way off he is no longer taken as seriously as he once was.

        Regarding Ron Paul’s association with the Freemasons; his father was a Freemason and Ron Paul has spoken to the masons on numerous occasions, but I have not confirmed that he is actually a Mason. You might want to check that out before putting it out there.

        I criticized Paul for not objecting to S/Ob’s eligibility when the opportunity was there at the count of the Electoral College. When questioned about it, he responded “they would have made me a laughing stock.” My initial response was “so”. The reality was that he was right. Unless he had a Senator committed to also object, it would have only marginalized him even more. The odds of the media and the establishment allowing a true small government conservative like Ron Paul get the nomination of the GOP is very very slim regardless of Tea Party support. The question is, who else is out there that is not a bankster puppet? Herman Cain? Does he stand a chance in Hades? I doubt it.

        My efforts will be spent in my State trying to raise up statesmen and pushing sound money legislation.

    • 39 Paula April 11, 2011 at 12:13 pm

      Huckabee is a sellout. He’s a huckster himself. Rino, bigtime. No spine. Coward. Wouldn’t have him, because he had a chance to speak up about the eligibility issue and he did exactly what Palin has done. He makes me want to throw up.

    • 41 Paula April 11, 2011 at 12:22 pm

      Also, our best bet is to stay far away from any politician that they choose for us, because we’ll just get more of the same old garbage we’ve had for the last 100 years. The ones that they “trump” up are the ones we ought to dump! They’re bashing Trump, so he’s probably the real deal, but I do say that with caution and attena up to see how he plays out. Hoping that he is not a trojan horse…time will tell.

    • 42 drkate April 11, 2011 at 6:58 pm

      Everyone who wants to discuss trumps business enterprises is free to take the discussion off line. Especially when there are no links provided to prove anything you are saying.

    • 43 drkate April 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm

      Huckabee doesn’t care where Obama is from, thinks this is a non issue. So you decide if you’ll stay safe and just talk about it, or you will put your vote where your mouth is.

      And, back up your accusations please.

  22. 44 AttilasDaughter April 11, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Plouffe: “the issue of Obama’s birth will not impact the 2012 presidential election because the American people are focused on the economy and national security.”


    Actually the people are focused on the economy, but the Obama campaign doesn’t want to talk about it either.
    What do they want to talk about?

    Trump was for Hillary.
    Hillary HATES Obama.
    I don’t think Trump is an Obot.

  23. 49 AttilasDaughter April 11, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Yesterday somebody posted that the original owner of Obama’s SSN died 1981 in Hawaii!
    There You go, the Granmother worked where she had access to that information, how convenient.
    Explains a lot.

    • 50 AttilasDaughter April 11, 2011 at 11:21 am



      This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.

      This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

      The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

      Obama’s maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died. Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could “adopt” it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

      This is what we know about Ludwig:

      In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

      On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington, DC as his empl., in answer to where he intended to live in the US.

      Jean Paul Ludwig had been in the US for 3 yrs in 1924, but he was listed on the “Immigration” manifest and refered to as an alien in the column headings.

      Listed under “States Immigration Officer at Port of Arrival”, New York, Aug 12, 1924:

      Jean Paul Ludwig, Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924, Port of Departure:
      Cherbourg, France, Line#: 0008

      Line #8: By Whom was Passage Paid: Emp. Mr. Reed; Whether in possession of $50: Yes; Whether ever before in US: Yes; If Yes-Period of Years: 3; Where: PA

      Whether going to join relative or friend: Empl. Senator Reed, Washingto, DC

      Length of time alien intends to remain in the US: Always

      Height 5′5″, Complexion Dk., Hair Br., Eyes Br., Marks of ID: None

      Place of Birth: France, Ammersville.

      [link to http://www.ellisisland.org

      First Name: Jean P.
      Last Name: Ludwig
      Ethnicity: France
      Last Place of Residence: Washington, D.C.
      Date of Arrival: Aug 12, 1924
      Age at Arrival: 34 Gender: M Marital Status: S
      Ship of Travel: Leviathan
      Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
      Manifest Line Number: 0008

      U.S. Social Security Death Index
      Name: Jean Ludwig
      Birth Date: 17 February 1890
      Zip Code of Last Residence: 96816 (Honolulu,HI)
      Death Date: June 1981
      Estimated Age at Death: 91
      Last edited by Apuzzo; 03-14-2011 at 05:41 PM.

  24. 55 anonymouse April 11, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Libs gloating 1070 nixed by 9th circuit

    remember their assassin Jared targeted Judge John Roll who was pro-1070, on the 9th

  25. 56 usapatriots-shout April 11, 2011 at 11:30 am


    “Oh, He’s just doing it for the “Publicity”. I wonder about the people who make off the top of their heads statements like that. Do they really understand what they are saying? Do they really know what publicity means or why it is used?

    Publicity is a mainly a marketing tool. It sells books, products and people—especially if in the business of politics or entertainment. Once the goal is achieved—the book has sold a million copies, no one would dare do a wash with out Oxyclean, and every one knows who useless Paris Hilton is, publicity is no longer needed—until the next project.

    Attempting to denigrate Donald Trump by Accusing him of challenging Obama’s presidential eligibility for “PUBLICITY” and not seriously planning to run for the Presidency says nothing about Mr. Trump and every thing about the empty headed critics. The critic reveals he/she is INcapable of thought deeper than a bird bath nor higher than a stump. How easy it is to repeat stupidity?

    Think about it. Why would a man who already has more publicity, more money, more success, and more power than any one could ever dare to hope to have need more ‘PUBLICITY’? He already enjoys abundance of publicity and of life’s amenities. He’s got it all! He is one of the few men on the planet who enjoys that much success. I think he know a thing or two about how to succeed. Donald Trump has one more item that NOT ONE PERSON IN POLITICS TODAY HAS—He still believes our CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW OF AMERICA AND SHOULD BE HONORED. GOD BLESS HIM!


    The bottom line is that before the 2012 campaign begins Obama must be made accountable for his failure to produce all his documents that reveal his true identity and background. He should not be allowed to run—HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE. Both Obamas must also be held accountable for the over 100 secret properties they own under all different names, the multiple social security numbers used by Barry, their Chicago shenanigans with Rezko, Bill Ayres, Reverend Wright, Larry Sinclair, Donald Young and, and, and. Thankfully, The Donald is the only one with any major status who has had the integrity and courage to shine the light on this great conspiracy.

    So those of you who want to repeat that stupid accusation; “He’s just doing it for the publicity.” Think twice. Is that really true. Maybe Donald Trump is doing this because he truly loves America and wants to save it. That, is something that will benefit the entire planet.

    • 57 AttilasDaughter April 11, 2011 at 11:48 am

      He’s the one!
      Before I had a real problem with those “cucumber & mayonaise” choices.
      (That’s an expression from Hillbuzz who support Sarah Palin.)
      Donald Trump will at least mix the GOP primaries up big time.
      Those cowards have shown their true color after November. Establishment politicians, the problem not the solution.

    • 58 Born in Illinois April 11, 2011 at 11:59 am

      Whether he runs or not he has done a GREAT service to this country. I have been telling my husband for over two years that the bc is a big issue, that there are multiple lawsuits suing the President of the US over this issue and NOONE in the media is covering it except the blogosphere! I would say, “Isn’t this strange? I feel like I live in Cuba or Russia.” And out of nowhere we have Trump who 1) questions why Obama has not shown the bc and 2) calls out the media FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOB!! He is saying what people like me have been thinking for over two years. He has shown the pure guts to SPEAK THE TRUTH and has stood up to the expected ridicule from the joke that is our media that followed.

  26. 59 drkate April 11, 2011 at 11:50 am

    We so easily criticise trump…I say remember who you are comparing him to. Do u want more years with obutt? Then stop being sticks arm chair patriots and get moving. Unless you have an alternative, why not help, or get out of the way? Ten, alain, show some answers here or stop complaining.

    • 60 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      I’m not complaining. I hope the Donald brings the usurper down. I want that Marxist in jail for espionage and sedition. I still know a narcissist when I see one and it may take one to bring one down, but I’m not going to support another Wall Street elite for POTUS.

      • 61 bdwilcox April 11, 2011 at 1:12 pm

        If you’re running for president, you’re a narcissist. Sad, but true. Your mindset must be: “They all need a piece of this!”

    • 62 RacerJim April 11, 2011 at 1:19 pm

      “Lead, follow or get out of the way” — Lee Iococa

  27. 63 Jan April 11, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    Dr. K. great article again. Thank you, and thanks to all who post here. Except the obots that post while Dr. K takes a well deserved nap!!!!!!!!

  28. 64 Alain April 11, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    dr Kate I don’t know what kind of answers I can give. I have said I have a bad FEELING about Trump based on what I see of him on tv and what I heard living not too far from Mar-A-Lago for many years. I don’t like that he has not yet forwarded the natural citizen issue. I don’t like that he has been married so many times and gone bankruptc just as many times. I don’t have facts yet just a gut feeling that I’m sorry, but I can’t figure out why. I don’t think he is a real conservative

    • 65 drkate April 11, 2011 at 7:06 pm

      Take your “bad feeling” discussions about trump off line, and don’t clog up this blog with them. That is what I am saying now.

      If you are saying something negative, provide links and proof. When the discussion here turns to him running for president, then you are free to start this again.

      Lets get back on track.

  29. 66 ARMY D.A.V. April 11, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Trump is our last chance to settle this peacefully. He’s the only constitutionally legitimate candidate, all the others have failed to keep their oath, party members.

    I took my oath in 1966, it still stands today . You don’t get a mulligan with the oath of office.

    My only suggestion for the Donald is stop asking the question ” why doesn’t he show his BC” and start demanding he release his records, it’s the law .

    The regime is going to make every attempt to destroy Trump in the coming months, we have no other choice to see this doesn’t happen.

    The day Trump enters the race, is the day Soetoro exits stage left…….

    • 67 RacerJim April 12, 2011 at 8:46 am

      ARMY D.A.V.:

      Thanks for serving and still honoring the oath you took in 1966! You indeed don’t get a mulligan with an oath of office!

      I took my US Army oath in 1964, it also still stands today. You don’t get a worthy POTUS/C-I-C with an oath of office.

      My suggestion for the Donald is similar to yours…stop asking “Why doesn’t Obama show his BC?”…start demanding “Obama show your BC or resign!”…then proclaim “Obama is not eligible because his father was never a U.S. citizen in any way, shape or form!”

      The day Trump announces his campaign, is indeed the day Soetoro exits stage left…hopefully into the arms of MP’s who will escort him to his cell in GitMo.

  30. 68 Troy April 11, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Trump is more than likely a globalist, but right now, He’s our globalist!

    Look, here’s the deal:

    Under normal circumstances none of us here would probably ever consider voting for Trump, but we are not under normal circumstances with a communist Muslim, usurping jihadist in the White House.

    We have a TWO PARTY system, like it or not…I hate it…No third party candidate will EVER be elected president….It sucks, it isn’t fair, but that’s our reality.

    If Trump runs on a Repub ticket then we have no choice but to support him because to do anything other than that will be the same as voting for the communist usurper….To not vote at all will amount to a vote for Barry…To vote for a third party candidate will amount to a vote for Barry.

    As much as I hate and despise Gingrich, if he were to be the Repub candidate then I would have no choice but to vote for him, because the alternative would be to help keep the communist usurper in power.

    Our two party system is an effing joke, but until it is abolished we have no choice except to try to work within it.

    Trump could possibly be just as bad as Obama, but the key word here is “possibly” – as in not sure….What is SURE is who and what Barry is and he is not acceptable….If and when Trump proves himself to not be acceptable then we will have to get rid of him too.

    Note: If the GOP will not let Trump play in their sandbox and he runs on an Independent third party ticket, then you will know right then and there that Trump was always part of a larger plan top get Barry reelected.

    Let’s let it all play out further and keep an eye on it.

    • 69 Troy April 11, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      I’m going to say this one more time in plain English.

      If Trump runs on a third part ticket, DO NOT vote for him as it will have been a “set-up” to get Obama reelected!

      A third party candidate splits the conservative vote and GUARANTEES the usurper a second term.

  31. 71 Voco Indubium April 11, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    RE: The Donald – good or bad?

    The short answer is good.

    The long answer is more complicated, but if he just achieves the relatively modest goal, that the Dems will be forced to abandon O as a nominee for 2012, he will have performed a great service to his country, he should have hero status at that point.

    Would he be elected? Would he run on GOP or on third party ticket? Would he make a good prez? We don’t know the answers yet.

    However, the man is not afraid to tell the truth, not afraid of the media, not afraid of the Alinsky-tactics, not afraid of the GOP-elite’s policy to avoid eligibility, not afraid of the Judiciary Branch’s “dereliction of duty” and not afraid of the corrupt Congress.

    How many of the other potential candidates have that character?

    Go Donald.

  32. 76 tx pro-life patriot April 11, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    You know, when I read Rich T.’s post, I started thinking… the harder Trump pushes, the more desperate the criminals will become, and the more incentive TPTB will have to pull economic strings to throw us into the inflationary tailspin Rich T.’s link addresses.

    I have this feeling of everything (meaning our financial destruction) being sped up the more Trump reveals. Does anyone else sense this?

    God help us!!

    • 77 Troy April 11, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      You are probably “spot-on” correct!

    • 78 Tenacity April 11, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      Playing the Trump card could blow up in their faces. The information on the SSN might be the fuse. I’ve already done what I can to make it go viral. Kate, will Mario come on Revolution Radio and talk about the SSN data specifically? If so, we should all put our email lists to work and get a few thousand people to listen to that show. Get Manning to promote it too.

      Now that the issue has some momentum thanks to whoever is pulling the strings, we should push it up and over the hill. Make that animation on the race card go viral too. It is right on about the BC being a red herring.

      God can even use an elite narcissist to serve His will when he chooses.

  33. 79 Voco Indubium April 11, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    RE: “ 56 Troy
    …We have a TWO PARTY system, like it or not…I hate it…No third party candidate will EVER be elected president….It sucks, it isn’t fair, but that’s our reality. “

    2012 could be a game-changer and signal the beginning of the end of the GOP. A lot of grass-root Reps strongly disagree with the GOP leadership. A third party with viable proportions could emerge, strong enough to get a new man in the White House, but probably loosing Congress.

    If the Dems are forced to withdraw O’s nomination it will be a new ball game, possibly ending the two-party system.

    • 80 Troy April 11, 2011 at 1:55 pm

      I don’t believe it that will ever happen, unfortunately.

      It would take the cooperation of the MSM and we know that will never happen…They will pretend to somewhat endorse and slightly push a third party candidate only for the purpose of splitting the GOP vote.

      I’m an independent and always have been and always will be…I despise the two party system and I despise the GOP almost as much as the new communist DEM party….ALMOST!

      To get rid of the two party system the government would have to be overthrown and that isn’t going to happen…We’re stuck with this crud that we have.

      I would rather drink hot molten led than to see the communist usurper get a second term of destruction….If it means that I have to vote for some republican puke, then that’s what I’ll gladly do….I’d vote for a street urchin whino if that is who the GOP decided to run…Anything else is a vote for Satanobama!…They’ve got their sorry ass two party system set up beautifully, don’t they?…Bastards!!!

  34. 81 usapatriots-shout April 11, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    Can You Help Me Perfect This Idea?


    We the people should unite in a single effort to put pressure upon ever secretary of state of each and every state to demand that the state vets Obama prior to giving him permission to run. If there are other systems of vetting like the election officials of the Democratic Party, we should demand they produce proof of Obama’s eligibility to run, too.

    Who and what are the officials of either the Republican or Democratic Parties who are in charge of such matters. We should begin a great big write in campaign with copies to be published every where on the inter net, news papers, e-mails and so on.

    What do you suggest?

    Catch me once—shame on you. Catch me twice—shame on me.

  35. 84 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Trump is using a very canny strategy…
    and frankly I’m enjoying it…just sayin’

    • 85 Papoose April 11, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      I’m like he needs a statue built and placed in Washington Square in front of the Arch. Paul Revere has arrived in a NYC minute.


      • 86 JanH April 11, 2011 at 7:11 pm

        Paul Revere has arrived in a NYC minute.

        I’m stealing this. 🙂

      • 87 Alain April 12, 2011 at 12:30 pm

        Hah hah I like the way you think papoose. You are a funny guy. Can you just see a bigger than life Trump in one of those three sided hats? I could see that.

        Can you imagine Obama on a horse? Not a chance. Not a real man if he can’t ride horseback.

  36. 88 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Good essay at American Thinker….
    “But Trump has achieved something important. His decision to focus like a laser on Obama’s failure to produce a birth certificate has highlighted the absolute corruption of the American media on the subject of Obama, and the dangers of power granted in the absence of an unaligned press….”

    • 89 Papoose April 11, 2011 at 5:32 pm


      Barack Hussein Obama Sealed All His Records; Grammies Galore on Mantel with Nobel Punk Prize, BUT NO BC. bwahahahaa.

      How much you want make a bet they are going to outlaw mayonnaise,next. I feel it coming. big smile WCA
      I’ll be okay as long as they leave my Everything Bagel alone.

  37. 90 jrCarolinas April 11, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Found a reference to this posted over at CW’s

    Shock Report Says Obama Moved $85 ($88 not $85) Billion To Honduras

    An entry in the March, 2011 report prepared by the Russian Ministry of Finance for the International Criminal Police Organization (ICPO) [aka INTERPOL] designed to track major international monetary transactions related to the global drug trade lists a US-EU transfer to Banco Citibank de Honduras, S.A. from Barack Hussein Obama II in the shocking amount of “$73 Billion in cash and US Securities” and “(estimated) $15 Billion in gold and silver bullion” on the same day the American President (March 22nd) was visiting El Salvador on his visit to Central America.

    Important to note is that the entry in this report naming “Barack Hussein Obama II” does not list him as the American President but as he is the only person in the world having this exact name one would be hard pressed to believe it could be anyone else.

    If this is true I hope he chokes on every bit of it.

    • 91 jrCarolinas April 11, 2011 at 4:05 pm

      I have just decided I am changing my tactics as far as BO is concerned. Instead of bad mouthing and bashing, think I will try praying for him for a change. If many prayers were to go up, he probably would be squirming in his pants. 😆

      • 92 Rene April 11, 2011 at 5:14 pm

        Just qualify it ” According to his works.”

      • 93 eddie h. April 11, 2011 at 7:34 pm

        rev. manning says he will not and cannot pray for obama because he was born a son of satan and therefore he cannot be redeemed.

        • 94 Paula April 12, 2011 at 5:17 am

          That’s baloney! He’s not the A.C; plus, WE ARE all born that way, under satan’s dominion in this world until we trust Christ’s death on the cross for our own sin, and then we are delivered from the power of darkness and translated into the kingdom of God’s dear Son.

          If Mr. Manning is a saved member of the BOC, then I can say most confidently that he is grieving the Holy Spirit of God by not obeying God’s word to him which says~~I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; for kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peacable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth (1 Tim. 2:1-4).

          So, until the Church, the BOC, the pillar and ground of truth is caught up to be with the Lord in Heaven, this is our admonition from the Lord Himself, because He wants all men to be saved and to come unto the knowledge of the truth, and He is not willing that any should perish, including Mr. Obama, because Jesus Christ has provided the means and way for all men to be saved by the blood of His cross. He speaks grace and peace to us today until the Church, the BOC, is taken out of here, so, today is the day of salvation and the time of God’s wrath is coming.

    • 95 anonymouse April 11, 2011 at 4:05 pm

      Wait, “by Sorcha Faal”…ring a bell?

    • 99 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:48 pm

      If this is true, then he has stolen from our treasury and is laundering money through other countries for his exit out of here. Keep your eyes and ears open for more money missing–as I keep saying, where is this massive debt coming from? They keep saying entitlement programs, and I say medicare and ss is NOT an entitlement program–they moneys collected are from our pockets–welfare and medicaid are entitlements — not ss and medicare. We all contribute to this.

      Just wait and see where the next BUNDLE on cash ends up!

  38. 100 ARMY D.A.V. April 11, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Quote Of The Day.

    “I just miss – I miss being anonymous,”


  39. 103 Troy April 11, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Disgusting!!!….Romney just announced he is running/exploratory committee….This is who the asshat GOP is going to push down our throats….Puke!!!!!

    • 104 anonymouse April 11, 2011 at 4:06 pm

      Michael Medved on his radio show is acting like, “Trump who?”

    • 106 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 4:12 pm

      Romney won’t get the GOP base….Romneycare…

    • 107 Rosemary Woodhouse April 11, 2011 at 6:57 pm

      My reaction upon hearing this was visceral disgust! McCain ’08, Romney ’12. Both set up to fail.

      • 108 drkate April 11, 2011 at 7:12 pm

        This is who Rove wants…because Romney will guarantee another Obama term…republicans pushing Jeb Bush ’16

        • 109 workingclass artist April 11, 2011 at 7:40 pm

          Trump did an interview with 700 club writer…chuckle…he’s being wicked savvy…
          told them straight up he’s presbyterian, goes to church on sundays, keeps the bibles folks send him in the mail in a “nice” storage place & then discussed economics stuff…nice and kinda generic for the evagelicals…not too flashy…

          The evangelical base of the GOP are not thrilled about Romney…and many fiscal conservatives keep screaming about Romneycare which Democratic wags are busy praising as their blueprint for Obamacare…
          And now Micelle Bachman is sayin Soetero should reveal his records…OY!
          Trump is scaring a lot of people especially Soetero…
          got popcorn?

        • 110 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:43 pm

          Ditto Dr Kate–and we don’t EVER want another Bush! That little empire better crumble quick.

    • 111 JanH April 11, 2011 at 7:16 pm

      Romney just announced he is running/exploratory committee….This is who the asshat GOP is going to push down our throats….

      Not a surprise at all. But it does make one’s blood pressure climb a bit, doesn’t it?

  40. 113 Rene April 11, 2011 at 4:05 pm

    This is part of an excellent article at Northeast Intelligence Network, well worth the read.
    Summary of Findings

    In sum and substance, one can reasonably conclude that to be legally considered a natural born citizen, and thus legally and constitutionally eligible to hold the office of the President of the United States, both parents must be citizens of the United States at the time of the birth of the candidate. It has been well documented that Barack Hussein Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen, but a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of Obama’s birth. This aspect has been the subject of numerous legal suits since 2008, all of which have failed to progress within the courts.

    As Barry SOETORO a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama has blocked every attempt to release his long form birth certificate, spending and estimated two million dollars during the last three years to keep secret a one-page document that would verify parentage and place of birth, even the most hardened skeptics must be curious with regard to his reasoning.

    We would be remiss not to mention that Mr. SOETORO a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama has also blocked the release of numerous other records of his past, including but not limited to the following list: “Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules (said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, and adoption records.” (Source: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/)

  41. 114 Rene April 11, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    here;s another portion of the article.

    Other detractors appear to be less educated on the topic of the rule of law as it applies to the eligibility issue, including the collective intellect of members of the view. Other pundits and politicians on the conservative side, including Karl Rove, who called the matter a distraction, and Michele Bachman (R-MN), who said “we should take Obama at his word,” seem to have little regard for the application of constitutional law as it would apply to Obama.

    In any case, it’s not just about the birth certificate. It’s about the rule of law, something that can nor should be reduced to a mere sound bite or treated with indifference by any U.S. lawmaker, military official, or even the media.

    To us mere investigators, it seems that there is more outrage over an ineligible player in a sports game than a potentially ineligible person holding the highest office in the U.S., especially considering that he has the ability, and has used it, to dramatically change the course of our country.

  42. 115 Papoose April 11, 2011 at 4:58 pm

    I’m having a scathingly, brilliant alinsky idea.

    Let’s obliterate the 2 pARty Sy$teM.

    Let’s skew, screw and grill their numbers and their fake polls.

    Let’s show them that its only propaganda “a third party contender is a spoiler”. Bullpuckies. A third party exists and its the 1st party: Indpendent/ Non Affiliated.

    Let’s show them what they used to look like in the 20th Century.

    Let’s eliminate all funding to the Commies in the usurped dNc and the RiNoCreeps.

    Let’s build our Cabinet…. Yo, drKate, does your Patriots’ Ark have a plank? (yea, water boarding like a Disneyworld Peter Pan badbye exhibit… I read at WTPOTUS —–> WEST has been nominated/named/endorsed by Glen Beck. Hoorah!

    Love Trump. Our Paul Revere 21C: The Coup has Come!! The Coup has Come!

    we should pick a date to relinquish our current party registration. They’ll go insane. Maureen Dowd will have to provide a sequel. ~~ Terry’s release is down for the count. xo

    • 116 Papoose April 11, 2011 at 5:09 pm

      Question for Chief Justice John Roberts:

      when the time comes, your highness, will you read FEC challenges when they finally arrive way up there?

      hmmmmm. i wonder.

    • 117 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:38 pm

      Papoose–count me in! BTW–do you remember a subprime mortgage lender in King of Prussia PA named Conseco Financial back in the mid 90s?

  43. 118 RichT April 11, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Here is a sneak peek of what is to come if we delve into a civil war of two party war vying for power.

    Read ponder…read again….

    where will you draw the line on morality…..

    Because the other side will not have a problem doing the nasty things to you as was did in the below article.

    Do not forget….this struggle we are in is a life or death fight.

    How far will you go to stay alive????????


    Aleksandr Kolchak? Now there’s an interesting fellow…

    This post was inspired by this one at WRSA. http://westernrifleshooters.blogspot.com/2011/04/we-living.html

    Here’s a quote from when he assumed command in the Russian “Civil War”-

    ”The Provisional All-Russian Government has come to an end. The Council of Ministers, having all the power in its hands, has invested me, Admiral Alexander Kolchak, with this power. I have accepted this responsibility in the exceptionally difficult circumstances of civil war and complete disorganisation of the country, and I now make it known that I shall follow neither the reactionary path nor the deadly path of party strife. My chief aims are the organisation of a fighting force, the overthrow of Bolshevism, and the establishment of law and order, so that the Russian people may be able to choose a form of government in accordance with its desire and to realise the high ideas of liberty and freedom. I call upon you, citizens, to unite and to sacrifice your all, if necessary, in the struggle with Bolshevism.”

    His actions?

    “Kolchak acknowledged all of Russia’s debts, returned factories and plants to their owners, granted concessions to foreign investors, dispersed trade unions, persecuted Marxists, and disbanded the soviets. Kolchak’s agrarian policy was directed toward restoring private land ownership.”

    And then, this…

    “There was brutal repression committed by Kolchak’s regime: in Ekaterinburg alone more than 25,000 people were shot or tortured to death. In March 1919 Kolchak himself demanded one of his generals to “follow the example of the Japanese who, in the Amur region, had exterminated the local population.””

    But…the Reds had their fair share of atrocities as well.

    “It should be noted, however, that the Bolsheviks committed many atrocities themselves. At these times, there were numerous reports that Bolshevik interrogators utilized torture methods which, according to Orlando Figes, “was matched only by the Spanish Inquisition.” At Odessa the Cheka tied White officers to planks and slowly fed them into furnaces or tanks of boiling water; In Kharkov, scalpings and hand-flayings were commonplace: the skin was peeled off victims’ hands to produce “gloves”; The Voronezh Cheka rolled naked people around in barrels studded internally with nails; victims were crucified or stoned to death at Ekaterinoslav; the Cheka at Kremenchug impaled members of the clergy and buried alive rebelling peasants; in Orel, water was poured on naked prisoners bound in the winter streets until they became living ice statues…”

    On and on it goes.

    There was no “moral high ground” in the Russian White vs. Red struggle. If the Bolsheviks would have been put down, the “moral high ground” would have, of course, belonged to the whites. The whites lost, and we got the monster known as the Soviet Union, Lenin, and finally Stalin. They held the moral high ground in the struggle, not the whites. Just ask them.

    “Moral High Ground” is defined only after the killing has stopped, by the victor. More accurately, it is defined by the victor when the victor is the only one able to do the killing.

    Kolchak lost, of course. He was executed in 1920.

    How many lives would have been ultimately saved if the atrocity-committing Kolchak would have triumphed?

    How many were lost because the atrocity-committing Reds won?

    Next up I will look at the concept of the “moral high ground” in the American Revolutionary War.

    And, I promise…it is likely to be both offensive and educational.

    • 119 Papoose April 11, 2011 at 6:40 pm

      yep. back in the day circa 1859, States got that silly notion of seceding and now its just sovereign individuals.

      we are being ransacked. deliberately.

      crazy, i know. that creep charles manson predicted this. helter skelter. shame Bill Ayres doesn’t write Dreams Of His Father bogus, racist, transparent biography. with disclaimers, of course

      what a set up, Gloria Steinem. Mstake.

  44. 120 RichT April 11, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Ever see pictures of head on collisions where they were not wearing seat belts????

    That’s what this will look like.


    When the head of the largest bond fund in the world shorts the US Treasury, Congress and Administration you had damn well better pay attention.



    NEW YORK (Reuters) – The world’s largest bond fund began betting against the United States last month by taking short positions on its debt on expectations the nation’s shaky finances will drive interest rates higher and imperil its triple-A rating.

    Bill Gross, PIMCO’s oft-quoted co-chief investment officer, in January warned that “mindless” U.S. deficit spending could result in higher inflation and a weaker dollar.

    • 121 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:35 pm

      And soros is behind this whole thing–he wants the bonds shorted-this is where he makes his money–look at his Bretton
      Woods meeting with Pelosi, Romney and others!

      Soros’s way of destroying America and our currency.

  45. 122 itooktheredpill April 11, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Yesterday a tin-headed obot visited this site with a new assignment…daring us to prove anything about obama. How sick is that? Actually saying “you guy’s can’t prove anything”…

    By law, the burden of proof is Obama’s burden, not ours.

    By law, Obama is legally required to prove his employment eligibility, by providing hard copy documentation from a list of acceptable documents.

    The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986:

    All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

    Where is the I-9 form that Obama was legally required to complete?

    Where is the acceptable hardcopy documentation that Obama was legally required to present along with his I-9 form?

  46. 123 drkate April 11, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Can HI issue a long form BC? The obots don’t think so…set them straight–


  47. 124 JinAlabama April 11, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    drkate didn’t some of the new congressmen/women try to pass a bill asking for BO’s BC. It seems to me that now that the Donald has brought the subject up and is doing so well in the polls, Palin and Bachman are rethinking the whole idea. It is almost as though Donald Trump had to wade into the water or act as a buffer for the Republican party before they could come out and declare BO a usurper. Oreilly, Obama’s favorite factor is supposed to bring up the hidden records tomorrow night. If he pitty pats around the issue to keep from pissing BO off, it won’t be worth watching. But for some reason, FOX is hanging on to the birther thing. Hannity and Greta both are still bringing up the subject. I figured it would be a non-issue by now. The Donald just keeps slugging it out. The more I hear him talk, the more I am impressed. I never liked him before. I had a Red Heeler once. Very loyal dogs. She knew just exactly where to nip the heels to get the attention. Go Donald.

    • 126 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:21 pm

      Hmmm—Conseco Financial–if this is the same company, I know this company to have been a mortgage lender back in the 90s. They filed bankruptcy then and the story was hushed due to their borrowers and continued lending. They were a subprime lender and also dealt in fannie mae and FHA loans. Matter a fact they did extremely shadey deals, as everyone in the lending industry knows WHO’S WHO.

      Wow-small world, and strangely enough thats a company name from the past that wasn’t in business long….and to make matters worse, if this is the same company, which I am sure it is, then I know the SILENT OWNER and he was as dirtie as they come. Ya know some companies have silent partners with spin off companies popping up under differnt ownerships, and this particle one, also had owners from the middle east–all dealing in real estate. I seem to remember that their mortgage division was in King of Prussia Pa!

      • 127 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:28 pm

        We need Papoose to chime in on this Conseco Co–I think she lives in the area and may have heard about them or at least remember their name.

  48. 128 Troy April 11, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    This is what I’ve been suspecting may be in the works…Not good, folks!….It’s all a Soros set-up!
    Donald Trump will “probably” run as an independent candidate for U.S. President in 2012 if he does not receive the Republican party’s nomination, he told the Wall Street Journal in a video interview on Monday.


    • 129 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:07 pm

      Troy–I said this same thing last week on a previous thread here. It’s not a bad thing–and I think the GOP knows he is serious about running and this has them running scared. They are putting WHO THEY WANT in the nomination regardless of who we want–and if Trump has to run as an ind–well then and he wins–then he will go down in history as the first IND POTUS!

      We all want someone other than the same Rinos right?

      Not sure about a soros setup–can’t see Trump as a conspirator in this. Maybe I am wrong but thats MHO.

      • 130 Troy April 11, 2011 at 9:14 pm

        If he wins???….That is an impossibility as a third party candidate….He knows it and everyone knows it, especially the Dems….The ONLY thing it could possibly do and will accomplish is to split the conservative vote and guarantee Obama a second term of destruction and mayhem.

        Trump is a smart guy and he knows this, so if he does it then he was playing on the enemy team all along….If he indeed is indebted to Soros for untold millions of dollars then it all makes sense.

        • 131 heather April 11, 2011 at 9:26 pm

          Ok got it–but if he doesn’t win which like you said he may not, and he continues with the ineligibility of barry and he proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt and Barry is arrested, then Trump has done us one huge favor and also, exposes all the RATS that went along and are guilty of aiding and abetting this criminal.

          And we all know that dirt come out and mud is slung at all potential candidates–look at Sarah Palin!

          • 132 Troy April 11, 2011 at 9:56 pm

            Agreed, Heather…I’m a skeptic by nature and trust almost no one….Let’s watch this Trump thing with an eagle eye and not allow ourselves to be played for fools….At the same time, let’s cheer Donald on as he continues to question Barry’s ineligibility….I’ll only be nervous if he indeed runs on a third party ticket….The results of that would be disastrous for us, as we would be stuck with the communist usurper for four more years.

    • 133 Paula April 12, 2011 at 5:34 am

      Even if it does happen that he runs as an independent, there is no way I would vote for Romney, Gingrich or Huckabee, and get the same old garbage we’ve had. We can’t keep doing the same thing over and over and over, and expect different results. I’m tired of voting for their choice politician…Not going to do it anymore. If I have to choose between one of the above mentioned and Trump, I think I would have to choose Trump:o)

  49. 134 no-nonsense-nancy April 11, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    This is why we need to get Obama out of there and in jail very, very soon. A plan needs to be worked out, folks! We The People just keep getting deeper and deeper in danger here. Our children and grandchildren will never have any kind of life except in servatude and debt. If BO is out of the picture for this election maybe some decent people can run.


    • 135 anonymouse April 11, 2011 at 10:09 pm

      Let’s start a list:

      1. Enforce the Constitution on penalty of life in prison for officials who violate their oaths to it (like POTUS, SCOTUS, FLOTUS, Congress, Senate, lower level judiciary). Life in prison, in solitary, eating gruel.

      2. Stripping of 100% assets all those who violate the Constitution, from their entire family estate, all offshore accounts, every last penny. Hunt down what they stole.

      3. Require eligibility enforcement and life in prison for officials who turn a blind eye or knowingly allow fraud.

      4. Destroy the Department of Education, 100% Vouchers, Public School attendance for those that want it, private for those who do not. EXCEPT any religious institutions must be slammed shut if they discriminate against those of another religion or atheists, and forced to liquidate all assets back to the taxpayer.

      5. Higher testing standards for police, border, academics, and TO HELL with making students feel good about themselves for nothing.

      6. Recognition of the maternal-paternal lead nuclear family is critical to the construct of a nation. Marriage should be encouraged and celebrated, absentee fathers frowned upon.

      7. Require students to be educated about the genocidal epic fail that is communism/socialism. 170 million dead in past 100 years, requires slavery and violence to exist, institutionalized misery.

      8. Strip islam of its judicial and political aspects or ban it from America. They can worship whatever they like, but are disallowed to violate American laws or even plan jihad or they are OUT.

  50. 136 Troy April 11, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Obama to impose “No Fly Zone” against Israel over Gaza Strip next.
    Is this Obama’s next target after Libya?
    Arab League chief on board that created doctrine used to bomb nation
    Read more: Is this Obama’s next target after Libya? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=286093#ixzz1JHZyZhxb

  51. 138 Troy April 11, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Judge threatens jail in homeschool case
    Details now emerging about battle over names, addresses of students
    Read more: Judge threatens jail in homeschool case http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=286097#ixzz1JHaqqseH

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