Adverse Inference-update

©2011 drkate

(Update.  In light of Obama’s release of yet another obviously fraudulent certificate of live birth, with no seal and obvious photoshop effects, a reminder that(a) his father’s citizenship makes him still ineligible for the Presidency, (b) Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Obama, was adopted by an Indonesian national, yet the ‘certificate of live birth’ contains no amendments that reflect that real life event, which, until he releases all of his records, makes him a citizen-subject of Britain and a citizen of both Kenya and Indonesia.  He still cannot prove he is American.)

not eligible

With regard to Obama, then,  Americans are entitled to adopt a framework of  adverse inference about his American citizenship.

Adverse Inference:

  • Unfavorable deduction that may be drawn by the fact-finder from the failure of a party to produce a normally expected witness or other evidence. It may be presumed that the failure to produce was because the testimony or other evidence would have been harmful to that party.
  • An adverse inference generally is a legal inference, adverse to the concerned party, made from a party’s silence or the absence of requested evidence. For example, as a sanction for spoliation of evidence, a court may instruct the jury it could draw an inference that the evidence contained in the destroyed documents would have been unfavorable.

Obama and his new world order handlers, complicit democrats and republicans, the flat-earth eligibility deniers, and the media have lost their epic multi-million dollar battle to keep Obama’s illegality hidden from the American public. They have lost it because both they and Obama cannot produce any evidence that Obama is a natural born citizen, let alone American citizen.

With each day, the depth of Obama’s deception is exposed, even with the most basic element of natural born citizenship–being an American citizen.

For example, in this open letter to Andersen Vanderbilt Cooper  in the Post & Email, the issue of what passport Obama is using provides further evidence that

... he (Obama, or Soetoro, or whoever) never had his own American passport before he received a diplomatic passport as a US Senator.   He had traveled on his mother’s US passport, which is quite common for kids.   That being the case, how did he get into Indonesia, and Pakistan in the early 80′s?   Well, it turns out he went there on his INDONESIAN passport, which he received (as a juvenile who had become an Indonesian citizen) before Mom shipped him off to Hawaii to be with granny and gramps.  He couldn’t get an American passport, as he could not PROVE American citizenship. (emphasis added)  


If there is no birth certificate in Hawaii–according to Tim Adams, and Donald Trump saying ‘its missing’– Obama could not get a U.S. passport.  Is this why he using a fake social security number?

Do we have a baby Chester Arthur Soetoro Obama destroying all evidence of his existence? And we are supposed to take a leap of faith?

The fact is  that when inquiring about any routine information about Obama, including a passport, his records are sealed.  Ultimately  Obama can’t prove he is a U.S. Citizen.

Congress Should Demand The Production of Documents

Therefore, reasonably adopting an adverse inference, Americans

…can conclusively state that Barack is not a U.S. citizen based on his refusal to produce evidence of citizenship, as well as his strenuous efforts to prevent disclosure of any and all documents which would provide supporting evidence of his claim of citizenship.

BO can be given an opportunity to rebut such an adverse presumption. Thirty days should do it. Then it’s over. ~D.LaRoque

If Congress will not live up to their oath of office, we will have to simply occupy the building until they do so.

To the military: join us in the removal of the usurper or stand down.

184 Responses to “Adverse Inference-update”

  1. 1 drkate April 26, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    The media are just babbling…running out the clock until the Corsi book.

    The Bushes and Clintons are quiet

    Has the NWO cut barky loose?

    • 2 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 12:13 am

      Barky was going to have Bush arrested in Europe, thinking that would really invigorate his base. Bush must have unleashed his own attack dogs. The Clintons tried to in Hawaii with Tim Adams, and Soros might be behind Trump for all we know. Ofraud is tenacious if dumb; he’ll hang on as more crocagators gather beneath for the feast. He’d do well to git while the gittin is sorta good.

    • 4 JanH April 27, 2011 at 6:18 am

      Has the NWO cut barky loose?

      That’s what I think.

    • 5 heather April 27, 2011 at 6:32 am

      Urgent!! what the heck is going on–barry just released his birth certificate to his for it. It shows fathers race as african and kenyan. This is still bogus.

      He is replacing Gates with Leon Paneta and giving Panetas job to Petreas….what is going on here..

      • 6 Chance April 27, 2011 at 9:58 am

        Yes. but now we know for sure who he father is and he can’t take it back now whether or not this bc is fake. He has just proven he is NOT NATURAL BORN AS HIS FATHER IS oBAMA SENIOR A KENYAN NATIONAL. HE HAS JUST ADMITTED HE IS HOLDING OFFICE OF POTUS ILLEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        We need to arrest him now.

        • 7 RacerJim April 27, 2011 at 10:14 am


          Immediately arrest, try, convict and imprision in Levenworth for life or worse (for him).

          Then declare everything he has done acting as POTUS/CIC null & void.

        • 8 sky April 27, 2011 at 10:23 am

          Don forget the corrupt fed,IMF,WTO @un. tarp money given to other countries,35 billion to bahrain bank corp.85 billion to honduras,etc,still going

    • 9 drakkhanlord April 27, 2011 at 10:46 am


    • 10 jtx April 27, 2011 at 10:47 am

      This new BC (hereafter called the Apr25 WHBC sunce there’ll have to be others later) is a fake also. The Flying Monkeys had to produce it with the content matching the FIRST fradulent COLB effort splashed all over the web. They are now caught in their own lie and Barky hisself has publicly sworn to it. He wouldn’t lie, would he? (Do fish swim???).

      If fact, where is the handwritten material that Fukino swore was part of the “bound” original document??? Would she lie??? (more fish action).

      AQnd just in case anyone thinks “African” is a valid race rather than just a PC boo-boo by the original forgers, there is this:”

      — definition from:
      1961 Vital Statistics of the United States;
      U. S. Dept. of Health Education, and Welfare;
      Public Health Service;
      National Center for Health Statistics;
      National Vital Statistics Division;

      Race and color

      Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for
      vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese,
      Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian
      (combined), and “other nonwhite.”

      The category “white” includes, in addition to persons
      reported as “white,” those reported as Mexican or Puerto
      Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with
      any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed
      parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite
      parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the
      father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and
      any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian.
      In most tables a less detailed classification of “white” and
      “nonwhite” is used.


      Thewer are other “issues” with this present WHBC but at least Barky is committing even more public perjury … I love it. To get a clue until Dr. Ron J. Polland gets ahold of it, just look at a magnified version of the “typewritten” data as well as the LH “fold” disappearing into nowhere and note the paper pattern continues undisturbed into the “fold”. It is fake as hell!!!

      Fool me twice; sshame on me!!! Barky thinks everyone is a stoopid as Bill O’Really, etc!!!

      • 11 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 10:52 am

        It is fake as hell!!!

        What a dork he is. He’s really stepped in it now. 😆
        😆 What a d*ckhead. 😆

    • 12 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 11:39 am

      OK folks let’s drop the posting for 3 hours.

      I have 91 emails and I can’t keep up.


  2. 13 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 12:33 am


    he can prove to US that he’s eligible, which he can’t
    NOT the other way around!


  3. 16 Az Watcher April 27, 2011 at 1:39 am

    The issue of his eligibility was not anticipated in the plan. Your intuition about this was right Dr. Kate. The whole world wasn’t asleep.
    Let’s just say. God works in mysterious ways.

  4. 17 ObamaRelease YourRecords April 27, 2011 at 2:44 am

    They underestimated the power of the Internet…

  5. 19 workingclass artist April 27, 2011 at 4:39 am

    Apparently Obama’s long form birth certificate has opened a twitter account….!/ObamaLongFormBC

  6. 20 True Patriot April 27, 2011 at 4:55 am

    A very serious question that needs to be addressed is Who runs Twitter. Their HO is in San Francisco, USSR, California.

    I have been using it quite a bit & noticed most of the comments are coming from Conservatives when I have been on twitter.

    Ning is owned by Soros, who owns and runs Twitter?

    It is another great way to gather personal information and spy on Patriots?

  7. 22 Alex April 27, 2011 at 5:04 am

    Excellent article! I certainly appreciate the legal definitions, which I had no idea about, but which make perfect sense. A defendant (maybe we should add that name to Barry’s long list of nicknames) can’t just hold out indefinitely on evidence that he either has and won’t produce, or can’t produce. You’d think I would have figured that out, what with the judge shows I watch! But I don’t think any of the Defendant’s court cases have gotten that far.

    I’ve been trying to come up with the second part of the best next tactic to take. Of course, you’ve hit the first part on the head in this article: Point out that Barry “Barack Obama” Soetoro cannot produce an Hawaiian birth certificate, and obviously doesn’t have one.

    The second part, it seems to me, would be to point out to the “True Believers” that they are being played for fools. If you will indulge me here for a moment, I took the liberty of looking up a few synonyms for this concept, and I’d like to list them here:

    green, or dark green
    easily taken in
    easy mark
    falling hook, line, and sinker
    kidding one’s self
    easily deceived, tricked, or duped

    This is exactly what The Powers That Be and Obama have been doing to the American people, and Americans really need to be informed, over and over again, that this is the case. A lot of you have been doing this already – thank you. I am going to make it my mission to use this type of terminology when I post – which I plan to do all over the internet – along with reminders about the Social Security fraud and whatever other information is called for, to bring it home that these True Believers, who consider themselves to be intelligent, are being played like cheap fiddles.

    • 23 Alex April 27, 2011 at 5:14 am

      And, I might add, Obama and TPTB are playing True Believers like cheap fiddles *while America burns!!*

  8. 24 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 5:35 am

    What passport or documents did Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama II, use to reenter the US in Honolulu, when he left Indonesia?

    What names did he travel on, from Hawaii, to Indonesia, to Pakistan, and on all entries into the US?

    What names did he use in schools and university in the US?

    What states, counties, courts, etc., did he change names in?

    Where are the documents?

  9. 25 Katie April 27, 2011 at 5:59 am


    OBAMA TO SHOW LONG FORM BIRTH CERT – No link to story yet.

  10. 26 sandstone April 27, 2011 at 6:02 am

    BHO is going to release his long form birth certificate in 34 minutes. This should be good so says FOX News!

  11. 27 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 6:06 am

    White House to release Obama’s birth certificate, please stand by.

  12. 28 Paula April 27, 2011 at 6:08 am

    I just heard this! This was so predictable. Why did Lakin go to prison, then, if Obama had one all along?! He’s had 2 1/2 years to produce one, and it will have to be independently analyzed, but guarantee, they won’t allow that to happen!

    This is utterly disgusting!

    • 29 Paula April 27, 2011 at 6:16 am

      Also, what about all the lies that have been put out by the MSM and HI recently that the COLB is all he had and that it is the real deal? I thought he couldn’t get one, now?! This is such a dog and pony show they’re putting on for the American people.

      • 30 Paula April 27, 2011 at 6:30 am

        By the way, it doesn’t matter about the BC, because his father was not a citizen of America at the time of his birth; now let’s talk about that America!

        Obama now needs to release the rest of his records that he’s spent 2 million of our tax dollars to hide! Let it ALL out Mr. Fraud. Let us do a proper vetting of who you really are.

        Let’s just go ALL THE WAY!

  13. 31 jane April 27, 2011 at 6:15 am

    Just reviewed it. Did they indicate AFRICAN back in 1961 OR Negro?

    • 32 Katie April 27, 2011 at 6:29 am


      • 33 Drew April 27, 2011 at 8:52 am

        Could it be that Obama is loathe to label his father ‘Black’, on an official document?

        And therefore he insists on using the designator, ‘African’?

        Why would that be?

        Perhaps because his father was primarily of Arab blood, of the Muslim Luo Tribe, and therefore he taught Obama Jr. to hate being labeled a Black Negro — (except to gain votes, using Taqiyya deception) — because the Black Negroes were the slaves of the Arab Muslims of the Luo Tribe, and the proud Obamas are predominantly of the Master Arab Race.

        Does someone know where the following claim originated? –

        “…are you aware that Obama’s genetic makeup is only a tiny fraction of black? .. If the investigators into his genealogy are correct, he is 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black.. His black genes come from only one grandmother.. His father is mostly Arab.”

  14. 34 speedy April 27, 2011 at 6:18 am

    The long form is probably another fake forgery so that he looks like he was born in HI. I won’t believe anything that fraud puts forth as a BC because I know that he wasn’t born in HI. Anyway, if he were to put forth anything, still he has committed fraud saying that that forged COLB is his birth certificate. He is the biggest con artist fraud ever.

  15. 35 jane April 27, 2011 at 6:21 am

    OH ALERT!!!!

    Obammie is giving a SPEECH at 9:45 EST about his BC.

    This should be a lecturing blast.

  16. 36 Alain April 27, 2011 at 6:25 am

    Fox news has a copy of the long form on right now and those bastards are saying this is the final proof that Obama was born in the US.

    But no mention of needing two citizen parents. what a bunch of idiots. we have known all along he was born in Hawaii but isn’t eligible under Vattel law.

  17. 37 Stock April 27, 2011 at 6:26 am

    Ok, let them pull a rabbit out of his hat-that rabbit will still have a Kenyan father.

  18. 39 heather April 27, 2011 at 6:37 am

    It shows his fathers birthplace as Kenya East Africa! Clearly –but again African is not a race – Negro is.

  19. 40 speedy April 27, 2011 at 6:37 am

    The thing on Drudge report they put forth as bo’s birth certificate is an obvious forgery. It says he was born at Kapolani and the address on it says the same as the ad, when no one of the neighbors remembered him living there and it says African where race is. It looks like they just used the information they had from the other stuff they put out and made yet another forgery. Anyway, it says that bo’s father is bo sr, so that makes him ineligible because his father was never a citizen. Bo is the biggest con artist fraud ever. He was not born in HI. All they can do is photoshop stuff and then show it as it is real. It contradicts what investigators have really found out. Anyway, if he was born at that hospital, why don’t they have any records of his mother being there and having him at that hospital? This is really fishy.

  20. 42 heather April 27, 2011 at 6:37 am


  21. 43 heather April 27, 2011 at 6:41 am


  22. 44 Born in Texas April 27, 2011 at 6:45 am

    Trump came along and blew the dems and pubs political cover by questioning O’vomit’s legitimacy. Trump was not part of O’vomit’s political calculation and because of this, O’vomit has had to do something instead of his usual stalling technique of offering nothing. He’s buying time (for whatever reasons) by releasing a long form (most likely a forgery). I see this as a positive development. He’s had to make up more lies and this will only make it easier to prosecute him at some point. Although I’m sure the next POTUS will pardon all his crimes.

  23. 45 Born in Texas April 27, 2011 at 6:49 am

    Dr. Kate – have you ever thought of starting a news company that would include TV and written forms such as a weekly newspaper and of course the internet, maybe like a Drudge site?

  24. 46 itooktheredpill April 27, 2011 at 6:54 am

    Obama should have no problem, then, asking the State of Hawaii to send an officially certified copy of the long-form Certificate directly to Congress under seal, just as was done for this certificate and this certificate.

    Make it official. Have Hawaii send an officially certified copy of it, under seal, directly to the Congress.

    If Obama balks at having the State of Hawaii send an official copy directly to Congress under seal, then that should set off flashing red sirens that the “document” just produced for the media is actually fraudulent.

    If Obama does have the State of Hawaii send an official copy directly to Congress under seal, then we can put issue #1 behind us (Trust, but Verify), and move on to issue #2 (“Natural” born citizen).

  25. 49 heather April 27, 2011 at 6:58 am



  26. 50 jane April 27, 2011 at 7:00 am

    Well I am NOW a BELIEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SO NOT

  27. 51 no-nonsense-nancy April 27, 2011 at 7:01 am

    This is a ploy to get Trump out of the race. I don’t think it will work. I wonder how soon they will be able to get this word to Terry Lakin. It should be very interesting to him.

    • 52 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:16 am

      Trump is going to make scrapple of this.

      • 53 Katie April 27, 2011 at 7:23 am

        If Trump doesn’t IMMEDIATELY address NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, we’ll know he was part of the set up to help oblahblah.



        • 54 Jan April 27, 2011 at 9:33 am

          Trump just said to a reporter that he accomplished what no one else was able to do, he got obat to release his birth certificate.

          Surely Trump is not that stupid to take obat’s word that the certificate is real and not a forgery?????

          If obat had it all along, then why did he spend millions to keep from producing it.

          Why did people die and why are people in prision.

          This is just more obama crap.
          But Fox is having a party, they are so excited that obama finally showed his BC.


  28. 55 heather April 27, 2011 at 7:04 am

    during his so called speech barry called trump and us circus people! not one word on the NBC status! goes to show they either dont look and read or hope we dont! or—are just plain stupid–so is this what we get for media/journalists and govt workers???? STOOPID PEOPLE? No wonder we are in the mess we are in — the secret is out and the nwo better stfd and stfu before we arrest them as well

    free lakin now!

  29. 56 Troy April 27, 2011 at 7:04 am

    This has to be the worst faked doc that I’ve ever seen…..The COLB looks like it was done by Picasso compared to this piece of crap….This one looks like it was done by a third grader…..Look at all the freakin “white blocks” surrounding all of the text…..It looks like someone typed this piece of crap out at home and then added the green background in later…..Also, what’s up with the document plastered onto a fake background, as in having the appearance of one piece of paper sitting on top of another sheet of paper?

    • 57 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:16 am

      I thought after 3years they’d come out with something that we wouldn’t pick apart after 4 second glance.

    • 58 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 11:04 am

      what’s up with the document plastered onto a fake background, as in having the appearance of one piece of paper sitting on top of another sheet of paper?

      Yeah my thoughts too Troy… funny you should ask….it’s an obvious fake…..ROFLMAO 😆

      They forget to forge the seal too.. hahahahaha 😆

  30. 59 jane April 27, 2011 at 7:05 am

    Was there an OFFICIAL SEAL on that BC????

    Must have missed it.

    • 60 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 8:34 am

      nope, and it says it’s only an abstract

      here is a real long form birth certificate…

      A real long form reads:

      and has an embossed seal, which Ofraud’s lacks, see?

      Obama’s says:
      and has no seal

      he admits it’s shit

      • 61 Drew April 27, 2011 at 10:06 am

        It’s certainly an Abstract, because the final item #23 has been left blank.

        “Evidence for delayed filing or alteration.”

        Also, item #22 has “Date Accepted by Reg. General” – “AUG -8 1961”.

        Obama’s birth documents were apparently altered — as late as 2007-2011 –, and a notation regarding these alterations should appear on the genuine, non-abridged, long-form Birth Certificate.

        These pending alterations are indicated on the June, 2007-issued, short-form COLB which says: – “Date Filed by Registrar” … Instead of: – “Date Accepted by State Registrar”.

        Also, the short-form COLB uses the word ‘African’, when the 1961 original would have ORIGINALLY used the standard, ‘Negro’.

        Therefore there was an application for revisions, alterations, or corrections pending in June 2007 — and other alterations may also have occurred previously.

        In addition, the long-form COLB should include “reference notes” for locating the Hawaiian documents for the Soetoro adoption, and the name change from Obama to Soetoro — and later, from Soetoro back to Obama (if such occurred) — plus, records for the “re-adoption” by either Stanley Ann or the Dunham grandparents (if such occurred).

        This new long-form Abstract appears to be the officially-allowed alterations (pending from 2007) that were finally approved by the Hawaiian bureaucracy…

  31. 62 heather April 27, 2011 at 7:09 am

    and why did stanley ann dunham sign that bc 3 days after the birth — it shows her signature as 8-7-61 and her age as 18. not NBC here! and a space for date last worked? wth is that–that is NOT on a BC in any state! has nothing to do with the birth of a child. bogus BC!

  32. 63 Born in Illinois April 27, 2011 at 7:09 am

    Great post Dr Kate and so appropriate given the latest development. The heat is on and people tend to make mistakes when under pressure. Everyone, pray for our country and for the truth to be exposed.

    • 64 sky April 27, 2011 at 10:13 am

      patriotactionnetwork artical what does the constitution have to do with it, might have to go to view all right side make copies

  33. 65 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:13 am

    The new forgery says African still, has the address at which they never lived, and says it’s an “ABSTRACT OF THE RECORD” (and notice how botched that forgery is to state that!), so that’s how they got away with not listing the adoption, and Hawaii just got through saying they didn’t issue long forms, this one is dated AFTER they said they stopped. There’s no seal, it’s dated 4/25/2011, Obama was born AFTER the Nordyke twins yet his is numbered previous to theirs. If a son is born of a father, it’s listed as “Junior” or Jr. but if a boy is named AFTER someone it’s with a II, so perhaps BHO is an alliteration to “wishful thinking”.
    Now, will Team Obama release this document for examination by an independent panel of forensic document examiners? Let’s get this court-vetted. The thing is now Obama can’t distance himself from the COLB, he’s admitted it’s his totally, the felony forgery is all his, treason, or enemy combatant guilt–take your pick.

    • 66 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:20 am

      Doncha just love that “I CERTIFY THAT THIS IS A TRUE COPY OR ABSTRACT OR RECORD ON FILE”…which means they’re anticipating an escape route for direct attribution.
      ab·stract (b-strkt, bstrkt)
      1. Considered apart from concrete existence: an abstract concept.
      2. Not applied or practical; theoretical. See Synonyms at theoretical.
      3. Difficult to understand; abstruse: abstract philosophical problems.
      4. Thought of or stated without reference to a specific instance: abstract words like truth and justice.
      5. Impersonal, as in attitude or views.
      6. Having an intellectual and affective artistic content that depends solely on intrinsic form rather than on narrative content or pictorial representation: abstract painting and sculpture.
      n. (bstrkt)
      1. A statement summarizing the important points of a text.
      2. Something abstract.
      tr.v. (b-strkt) ab·stract·ed, ab·stract·ing, ab·stracts
      1. To take away; remove.
      2. To remove without permission; filch.
      3. To consider (a quality, for example) without reference to a particular example or object.
      4. (bstrkt) To summarize; epitomize.
      5. To create artistic abstractions of (something else, such as a concrete object or another style): “The Bauhaus Functionalists were . . . busy unornamenting and abstracting modern architecture, painting and design” (John Barth).

      • 67 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:22 am


        which means they just put out total fiction and admit it right there

        Alvin Onaka signed off on the fact that this is goofy funky artwork.

        • 68 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:32 am

          Obama’s does not in any way look like a real long form

          Here’s the Nordyke’s born the day before Obama

          A real long form reads:

          AND a real LFBC has an embossed seal.

          Obama’s shit always admits “hey! I am shit, for suck-ahs!” right on the front. You’d think with the CIA , FBI, Media fronting for him they’d come up with better than this.

          And those gastly ghostly white clouds where they stuck in text on top of the form, which is not what is used for a LFBC anyway? WTF? Were they high?

      • 69 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 10:51 am


        You are spinning your wheels.

        Offices can change the wording of rubber stamps over time.

        I agree the long form should not say abstract, but when they ordered new stamps, who knows?

    • 70 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 9:55 am

      Give it a rest about it not being a long form. It is.

      Focus on the father not being a naturalized citizen.

      Focus on “born a dual-citizen” and cannot be a natural born citizen.

      Obama can say he was born in the USA, and he will play that all day, but he cannot say he is a natural born citizen.

      Channel your time and energy where it will be effective.

      Vet other candidates.
      Say Obama was born a dual-citizen and he is not a natural born citizen.

      • 71 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 6:42 pm

        I’m comparing it to a LFBC from the day before, and also that it admits that it’s just an abstract.

  34. 72 Jeremy1Esq April 27, 2011 at 7:22 am

    Now what? Wonder what Corsi’s book says. Good luck getting Obama removed because he is not a NBC. We knew that from day one and no one did anything. Now 2.5 years later he releases it. Unless this bc is a fake, I think the issue is dead and Obama stays in and just won reelection.

    I hope people investigating this do not give up. Why would he hide this information and let Lakin go to prison.

    Bottom line is who cares where he was born. He just confirmed he is not a NBC and should be removed. It didnt happen before and it sure wont happen now.

    I want the rest of the story because I still think he gave up his citizenship at some point and either way he is not a NBC and needs to be gone.

    Who will fight this?

    • 73 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 8:33 am

      What do you mean “no one did anything?”
      Wrotnowski was on SCOTUS dockets prior to elections based on Ofraud’s failure of article II and it was removed by a court clerk…oh what was her name again?
      Elena Kagan

  35. 74 speedy April 27, 2011 at 7:22 am

    I looked at that on drudge and it is an obvious forgery. I can tell it was faked. They have been working on another forgery for him to show as his birth certificate. Why can’t he show his real birth certificate that was issued in 1961? I can tell it’s fake on its face because of the background being the same as the COLB background. He is knowingly defrauding the American people with that fake COLB. I hope people can see that it’s a fake. He should go to jail for showing a forged document to the public and trying to dupe people to think it is real so they vote for his sorry pathetic lying a$$.

  36. 75 speedy April 27, 2011 at 7:26 am

    Furthermore, no raised seal on the fake document he is purporting to be his birth certificate. He said he was born in Mombassa back in 1980s and now he wants to fake people out with his being born in HI garbage so he can further destroy our country and try to make people look like we are stupid for asking.

  37. 76 bdwilcox April 27, 2011 at 7:29 am

    From my post on Dr. Kate’s blog, April 12, 2011 at 1:06 am

    I’m starting to smell a rat when it comes to Fukino’s latest exposition about the long form. Seems to me a perfect storm is brewing for 2012. It’s amazing how Abercommie can’t find Barry’s BC, but Fukino suddenly knows exactly where it is and exactly what’s on it. It’s also odd that FactCheck took down Obama’s Certification of Live Birth image. That tells me a few things:
    1) A long form has been created and will be released. An image of it will be placed on FactCheck
    2) No one will be allowed to inspect the ‘original’
    3) The Obama camp will use this as a distraction to claim they fulfilled their obligation to show proof he was born in the US. This will take away Trump’s thunder. It will distract and disarm the real issue which is parentage. Most of all, it will become their Alinsky ace-in-the-hole to ridicule and belittle all ‘birthers’, especially those expounding the true source of his ineligibility – his alien father.

    I can just hear the Obot chorus: “He showed his long form! You’ll never be satisfied! Nothing is enough for you ‘birthers’! You’re all nuts!” The sad part is a Dancing with the Stars mentality populace will think that’s all he needs to be eligible.

    My feelings on this are such. The Iranians were probably tapped to counterfeit a birth certificate. They, along with the North Koreans and Israelis, are probably the best counterfeiters on Earth. Obama has dealt Iran many favors by eliminating their opposition in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya. I imagine they were brought in to make this airtight.

    Fukino’s roots need to be tapped. Has any new, sudden bank accounts been opened for her? Does she have any intelligence ties? The groundwork for Barry’s meteoric rise was set long before he arrived on the scene and there is much scrubbing of his past that occurred before he was even known. Fukino could have been an intelligence plant to cover and obfuscate.

    The long form needs to be analyzed. For a proper counterfeit, paper stock of the era of Obama’s birth must be used. That means a document from that era will need to be scrubbed of current printing and Obama’s “birth certificate” overprinted on that now blank piece of paper. The actual birth certificate must undergo full spectral analysis to determine if any undertyping is present and the paper must to sampled and vapor-phased for the presence of tell-tale solvents that are used to lift old print from paper. Just as the chemistry of paper leaves a tell-tale footprint, so do any chemicals used to scrub old documents of their print.

    • 77 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 7:33 am

      this is not a long form and says so right on it, it’s an abstract with no seal

    • 78 Paula April 27, 2011 at 8:08 am

      Agreed! You had them nailed to a “T”

    • 79 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 9:44 am

      If you don’t work at Hawaii DOH, and you don’t have clearance to access the cabinets with the birth certificates, then you cannot look at the one and only original. You cannot take news reporters or lead weekend tours to show anybody the birth certificates.

      Hawaii DOH can make a photocopy and certify it, but if you ain’t named on it, or directly related to the registrant, or don’t have a court order, then Hawaii DOH cannot give you a copy.

      Obama has released, and you can call the White House to set an appointment to see it.

  38. 80 Jeremy1Esq April 27, 2011 at 7:39 am

    Wilcox, you are exactly right but it will never be proven to be a forgery. What if someone says it is? That person is nuts and racist blah blah. Obama has simply pulled the biggest scam in world history with help from all the right people and an american population that continues to be dumber by the day as the old die off and the new set of stupid voters becomes eligible

    the focus needs to shift away from the BC and to the issue of NBC which needs to get put before the courts. The fact this has not been done makes doing it now all the more harder.

    Our country has been taken and I feel helpless to do much about it. Lets see if Trump has any balls to call for the NBC issue to be raised but since he is a liberal, I think he walks away thinking he has solved a great mystery of our time.

    There is so much more to this yet not enough opposition to find out the truth.

    • 81 Troy April 27, 2011 at 7:49 am

      If Trump walks away then he was part of a ploy all along to introduce the new fake BC document.

      I’ll bet money that he NEVER mentions NBC.

  39. 82 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 7:41 am

    I emailed TMZ, since they are displaying the bc, also I emailed FactCheck.

    Let’s see the back. When was it issued (dates and stamps), and has the government of Hawaii been lying and committing fraud?

    If his father was a foreign born student, then he was on a non-immigrant student visa (8USC1101(a)(15)(F)(i)), under British consular jurisdiction, per 1952 British Treaty.

    When did Barack H Obama Sr. naturalize?

    If Barack H Obama II, was born in the Hawaii, then per (circa 1961 law) 8USC1401(a)(1), he would have been born a US citizen, and under consular jurisdiction of the 1952 British Treaty and the under jurisdiction of British Nationality Act of 1948, Part II(5)(1)(a) he was born a British Citizen, thus a dual-citizen, and not a natural born citizen, and not constitutionally eligible for the 2008 Presidential election.

    If Barack H Obama Sr. did not naturalize before the birth, then Barack H Obama II, was a native born dual-citizen, not a natural born citizen.

    This is not over. This is is a scandal. Our Constitution and nation need to be protected against a domestic enemy.

  40. 83 Troy April 27, 2011 at 7:43 am

    Hey, Barry!….Remember that piece of crap BC that you found amongst some old newspaper clippings and other docs….Yeah, that one!…..The one you wrote about in your book (that you didn’t write)…..Show us that BC, you jagoff, instead of this ridiculous looking piece of crap that you just posted on the Internet.

    • 84 heather April 27, 2011 at 7:56 am

      Ditto Troy–but again the certificate shows place of birth for the father as Kenya, East Africa! And no his father never naturalized as a US citizen because he became the Kenyan leader back in like 2005 or 6 or 7. He had to be a citizen of Africa. Not a dual citizen.

      Bill Hemer on fox is an ass-he kept refering to the BC being shown and Hi as barrys birth place–wtf-sit down and stfu you stupid piece of garbage you are all in on this. not one mention of the fathers birthplace. talk about stoopid is as stoopid does! omg–how do these people get and keep jobs? oh silly me, the kiss up.

  41. 85 eddie h. April 27, 2011 at 7:43 am

    donald trump failed to talk about natural born citizen and dual citizenship despite all the information that was sent to him. i am not surprised at the showing of this fake document. the forenics experts need to be called on immediately to declare this piece of crap a forgery.

  42. 86 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 7:45 am

    How timely to release it before Orly gives Oral Arguments in Pasadena on Monday. She’ll have a fun time now.

  43. 87 Born in Illinois April 27, 2011 at 7:46 am

    If Obama and his cabal really knew what they were doing, a long form bc would have been forged long ago. The heat is on and the release of the bc is not going to abate. I am disgusted and I’m sure I am not alone.

  44. 88 SallyAl April 27, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Somebody needs to ask him why they have been fighting in court to NOT release the bc and other records. OMG this just keeps getting worse and worse!

  45. 89 Philo-Publius April 27, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Bon Appetit Birth Certificate…

    I predicted multiple times that President Obama would produce the original long form birth certificate when it best served him to do so. Today that prophecy was fulfilled. I have always maintained that the birth certificate issue was a red herring smoke screen protecting Obama from facing the true issue of his ineligibility – dual nationality.

    • 90 Paula April 27, 2011 at 8:21 am

      Right on! Let America know that for Mr. Fraud to be POTUS he must have 2 American citizen parents which would make him a natural born citizen, but since he doesn’t have 2 American citizen parents he is NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE POTUS.



    • 91 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 8:30 am

      but this is not a LFBC
      it’s an admitted abstract with no seal

      he just admitted he’s not a US citizen

  46. 92 kiltie April 27, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Obummer could hardly conceal his glee while announcing the release of his “long form birth certificate”. It’s already apparent from what I’m reading that it’s just another fake…what is Obummer so happy about??? Maybe he’s got his bags packed and is sneaking out the back door as I type (from my lips to God’s ear).

  47. 93 Philo-Publius April 27, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Beck still does not get it. They were mocking the fact that birthers are still not convinced. A co-host mentioned one birther said he was not an NBC because his father was born in Kenya. Beck then compared BHO to an anchor baby and said his father’s citizenship did not matter.

  48. 94 AttilasDaughter April 27, 2011 at 8:26 am

    This looks like a photocopy from a book printed on the same paper like the COLB and the same stamped signature by Onaka.
    The Nordyke BC clearly looks different.

    The Obots and Media clowns will refer to this for the next two years.
    No proof it is real, just the same old same old.

    SSN, book authorship, Rezko….
    I hope Trump was not just preparing the releaso of this, but he will keep on attacking Obama on his lies.

    • 95 AttilasDaughter April 27, 2011 at 8:27 am


      • 96 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 8:29 am

        it even says it’s just an abstract and has no seal

        • 97 heather April 27, 2011 at 9:25 am

          and another little tidbit–back then the mothers name was always her maiden name—my husbands shows, mine shows, my kids show all maiden names. my long form bc from the USNaval Hospital shows my mothers as her maiden name.

          barrys shows stanley ann dunham obama with stanley written above ann, like an after thought. back in then there was not a name split like this one.

          one can clearly see this is a fake.

    • 99 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 10:41 am


      The Nordyke bc was done earlier, and office procedures were different. It looks like they made a few hundred title strip templates with the wording, signatures, etc., and then the staff typed a current date on it, placed in a frame with the bc, then snapped a photo. We had color film in 1961, so a paper photo could be produced, embossed, rubber stamped signed and sent out. The film was retained in archives.

      The hospital staff records more data than is on the longform.
      Where did Lucas Smith get baby weight and Length?

  49. 100 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 8:33 am

    We have achieved partial discovery, with the original bc.

    Terry Lakin, having been tried and convicted, and served time in prison, has been harmed and now has standing to sue Obama.

    Lakin should get reinstated and reimbursed in full.

  50. 101 Paula April 27, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Investigatgors need to find Dr. David Sinclair’s relatives to find out if their father delivered Obama. Is Sinclair’s wife still alive? I believe I read at P & E that Miki Booth says Sinclair was her OB/GYN.



    • 102 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 9:07 am

      they admit it’s a fake (called an abstract) and it has no seal nor is it certified as true and correct

      they just slow rolled this

    • 103 Bobby April 27, 2011 at 9:09 am

      Found this re Sinclair:

      Dr. David A. Sinclair, 81, of Honolulu, a retired physician, died Aug. 20, 2003, at home. He was born in Portland, Ore. He is survived by wife Ivalee; sons David, Karl and Brian; daughters Margaret Peterson, Rebekah Luke and Ruth and Katherine Sinclair; 11 grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. Services: 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at Central Union Church Atherton Chapel. Call after 4:30 p.m. Aloha attire. No flowers. Donations suggested to Alzheimer’s Association of Hawaii.

      What is the writing on the left hand margin? Is this what Abercrombie said was written down?

      More here than meets the eye I expect.

      • 104 Drew April 27, 2011 at 10:42 am

        For the writing in the margin, compare it to that seen on the Nordyke twins’ birth certificates: –


        But here’s something incriminating: —

        Look at the new, long-form Abstract which “appears” to be pulled through a slot — as if it’s a page from a book that’s behind the “all-around background” on top.

        Now look at the background pattern on the right side.. enlarge the magnification to about 400%.

        On the right, the background of the “page from a book” is contiguous with the background of the “border area”.

        The background is inseparable on the right — indicating the “page through a slot” is a Photoshopped illusion; a fraud.

        • 105 Drew April 27, 2011 at 11:03 am

          Furthermore, the background area’s pattern, along the top and bottom edges is inseparable and contiguous with the background pattern of the Abstract “page”.

          Look at the page-through-the-slot illusion, and then follow the top edge of the Abstract page (enlarge the view to 400%).

          The background pattern is exactly the same as the page pattern (top and bottom; also the right edge), so the “edge” of the page just fades away, making the “page” appear to grow and cover the entire “slotted-background” (except near the slot-illusion distraction).

          Whoever Photoshopped this disaster should receive the Congressional Medal of Honor!

  51. 106 Philo-Publius April 27, 2011 at 8:40 am

    I understand many folks are still skeptical about all this. However, if they insist on questioning this document it will only serve to continue the distraction of the real issue (NBC) and hamper any serious discussion beyond forums like this.

    • 107 drkate April 27, 2011 at 8:46 am

      Agreed. Stepping up the pressure on NBC

    • 108 Paula April 27, 2011 at 8:49 am

      True; You are absolutely right. As stated above the main issue “attraction” is our U.S. Constitution which says the Fraud is ineligible. This is our discussion and should be the sole focus. My apologies for the distraction;o)

  52. 109 Rene April 27, 2011 at 8:41 am

    2    /reɪs/ Show Spelled[reys] Show IPA



    a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.


    a population so related.


    Anthropology .


    any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.


    an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.


    a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.

    African is not a race. Another forgery.

  53. 110 AttilasDaughter April 27, 2011 at 8:54 am

    The obvious question is
    Why does it look different than the Nordyke birth certificate?
    Did they change the form for Barry? LOL?

    But something else
    What is so embarrassing on this?
    What information is it?
    Especially since the information is exactly the same as on the COLB and the newspapers.

    I’m really disappointed by this forgery, had at least expected a Nordyke style look.

  54. 111 heather April 27, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Just reading live chat on foxnews and 3/4s of them all say barry is not a nbc, see the fathers birthplace! so here we go folks-a forged bc and the media cant see it but the people can? Again–msm are covering for him still.

  55. 112 madeleine7 April 27, 2011 at 9:02 am

    The way obummer is smirking in the video about release of document speaks volumes!!! He is so stupid he feels he has “pulled a fast one!!!!” May the paper ( NOT cyber-spaced) copy be examined by INDEPENDENT forensic experts!!!! I fear it is just another forgery by this street hustler. If it were genuine, why was it not shown at LTC Lakin´s trial???? I smell a rat!!!!

    • 113 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 9:06 am

      it’s just admitted artwork (see below)

    • 114 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 11:27 am



      In his book “Games People Play: The Psychology of Human Relationships” by Eric Berne, he explains the game LPAFONE or
      “Let’s Pull a Fast One on Eddy”

      Exactly what Obama is doing.

  56. 115 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 9:05 am

    What Obama just did was admit he’s an illegal alien, because if he could’ve gotten away with ANY certified BC he would have used that.
    This new glowing green thing says it’s only an abstract, and after pressing the OBOTs they admit it’s not a LFBC but exactly what it is, they won’t say, they’re celebrating, yet know not why.

    here is a real long form birth certificate…

    A real long form reads:

    and has an embossed seal, which Ofraud’s lacks, see?

    Obama’s says:
    and has no seal

    he admits it’s shit

  57. 116 Tenacity April 27, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Panem et circenses…even the focus on the forgery is a part of the circus distractions. EVERY person that acts like being a citizen (native born) makes one eligible to be POTUS is complicit, a liar, a traitor, and must be called out for what they are…on the payroll of the Luciferian “banksters.” This has always been about undivided allegiance and never about a document or just about where the usurper was born. Let’s turn up the heat and call the traitorous liars exactly what they are. The SCOTUS and Congress are redefining the Founders terminology even by their silence. They are allowing the media to deceive the people via the propaganda of citizen being synonymous with Natural Born. Guess what…even the NBC issue is a distraction from their theft of ALL of our wealth and ability to defend our unalienable rights. As long as they control our money, they could care less whether Obama is outed or not.

  58. 117 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 9:21 am


  59. 118 thinkwell April 27, 2011 at 9:30 am

    The document posted here is a pathetically obvious forgery:

    This appears to be an official government website so that by approving the release of this clearly digitally forged PDF Obama has inescapably painted himself into a prison cell corner.

    One can see that most of the print was layered on top of the scanned document by panning or zooming the view in or out slightly while viewing the document at a high zoom level. The bottom layer (background, most of the witness signatures and some of the form text that is still original) clearly pops up and is displayed as a complete layer in its entirety before any of the forged upper layer(s?) begin to display. Check this out for yourself by viewing the document linked above (and be sure to save a copy before it gets fixed). Also, note that all the original document text, original signatures and other document features exhibit multiple levels of intensity and hue when viewed under high zoom. All of the forged upper layer text appears as an even, single dark intensity level. This clean digital characteristic of the upper layer is completely unnatural, even to my untrained eye.

    Why would Obama release such an obvious forgery? The evidence is so undeniably incriminating. Why is he not worried about going to prison. Is he laughing our faces? Is he that arrogant?

    • 119 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 9:40 am

      it’s that “abstract” admission, it’s just artwork and he’s laughing that he TOLD everyone it’s just artwork and that the enemedia is using that to still cover his ass

      I pressed and pressed and pressed and not ONE single obot admits that is a BC, long or short, they’re just celebrating in a tizzy of gloat, but they don’t even know why…they think this “showed the birthers”, but they don’t know WHAT it showed…when they see a real BC and how Ofraud’s is nothing, it bounces off like they didn’t even process it…but they did since they also won’t admit it’s anything. They’re going on and on about how birthers are kooks and should hang their heads in shame, and Trump is now Obama’s bitch. It’s literally a parallel universe.

    • 121 thinkwell April 27, 2011 at 10:02 am

      Now I’m reading that others on the web with advanced graphics editors report that the forger of this document clearly left it in layered format and did not bother to flatten it into a single homogenous layer, thereby eliminating the most damning and amateurish sign of digital forgery. Could they be that stupid or arrogant?

      Is Obama really that secure in his usurpation?

      Maybe he has just been unbelievably careless because he is running scared in damage control mode due Corsi’s new book and the latest poll numbers are showing that most people are finally beginning to catch on that he is a non/un-American fraud.

  60. 122 Troy April 27, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Someone has already found the “coffin nail”….The new BC has already been debunked as an absolute forgery!!!
    ConcernedOne says:
    Wednesday, April 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM
    Just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC:

    “Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”

    Now THAT could blow this whole document to bits!

  61. 126 tiger 7 April 27, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Trump’s big mouth backed bho into a corner and now bho has truely stept in a bucket—the thing he released is obviously a hoax, but it opens the door for the case of L/C Lakin. It also opens the door for the dual citizenship aspect in that it once more states that his “father” was a citizen of Kenya.
    Citizenship, place of birth, identity theft—three strikes and you’re out!!

  62. 127 A Crazy Old Coot April 27, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Check out the name of the hospital where he was born. Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children. That name was not used until 1978.

    In 1908, Albert and Emma Kauikeolani Wilcox donated $50,000 to start a children’s hospital. The community, concerned that two of every seven infants in Hawai‘i did not live to see their first birthday, rallied to match the Wilcox’s gift. A year later, Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened.

    The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children. Staying true to its mission, the non-profit hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii’s women, children and adolescents. It is staffed with highly skilled, compassionate physicians and nurses, dedicated to providing the finest care for Hawaii’s families:

  63. 130 Joey April 27, 2011 at 9:53 am

    The Nordyke Twins’ Certificates of Live Birth say “Kapiolani” and they were born the day after Obama.

    • 131 A Crazy Old Coot April 27, 2011 at 11:38 am

      There is a difference in using a one word name (Kapiolani) for the hospital and using the full name (Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children) of a hospital that did not exist until 1978.

  64. 132 charlesmountain April 27, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Can the Nordyke BC be a fraud too?

  65. 135 ARMY D.A.V. April 27, 2011 at 10:01 am

    S. Ann Dunham Obama age 18 ????. I thought it was 17 .

    Still not bad for government work .

  66. 136 AttilasDaughter April 27, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Just given this photocopy is a copy of a real file from 1961….

    Why was the COLB only “filed by registrar” and not “accepted by registrar” ?

  67. 139 jane April 27, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Is LARRY SINCLAIR a grandson of the late great doctor in question?

    Just throwing out another bone……

    Where is Dr Kate? Love to hear her take on all this.

  68. 140 AttilasDaughter April 27, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Trump should say: “Well, that’s a start. How about all the other sealed documents? From Kindergarten to Harvard?”

  69. 141 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 10:27 am

    HOLY CAT SHIT!!!!!!!

    SOETORO “releases his BC”

    BUT—-drum roll—it says his dad is born in kenya ——–
    that makes him ineligible! CASE CLOSED!

    MAYBE MATCH IT WITH MICKI BOOTH’S? I know it’s another phoney doc. It says he’s “—drum roll—-AFRICAN!” IT SHOULD SAY NEGRO. 😆
    What a bunch of cat shit.
    GO HERE–>

  70. 142 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 10:28 am

    One thing is certain about us Constitutionalists,i.e. “birthers”, is that we are the true guardians of the US Constitution.

    Be proud of yourselves.

  71. 143 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 10:29 am

    oops you already saw it……what a crock eh?

  72. 144 no-nonsense-nancy April 27, 2011 at 10:35 am

    I’m having a problem with my comments posting. I’ll try again.

    I watched the video clip of barky giving the press conference. Very difficult for me. He was laughing, as were some of the news reporters, as if it is so funny. Are you going to be laughing in prison, you fraud?

    Now show the real one, impostor. And not on green paper. On yellowed paper like mine and with my mother listed with her maiden name and with the writing going lengthwise on the paper and not up and down. I bet there is no paper copy of his, it is only computer generated.

    Even though Trump’s ego is a good match for BO’s, I applaud him. Now go for the NBC and other credentials. Don’t stop now. You’re on a roll. GO DON!!


    • 145 Born in Illinois April 27, 2011 at 11:37 am

      This has to be unprecedented to have a sitting president laughing at the American people. He degrades the office and shows everyone what an idiot he is. He and the complicit media will not be laughing when he loses big in 2012.

  73. 146 heather April 27, 2011 at 10:35 am

    The WH announced that the BC proves that Barry is a NBC! Even Rush is not mentioning anything about the fathers place of birth–how can this be?

    Go to and they are saying the birthers are still saying its a fake and the birthers will never be satisfied and on and on.

    What a serious problem we have. Unless Trump proves that this is a fake, and the fact that his father was not a NBC we will continue to have this freak in office.

  74. 147 jane April 27, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Tried to post too….awaiting moderation???

    Hope DR. SINCLAIR is related to Larry….just sayin’.

  75. 148 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 10:40 am

    He’s ineligible. It’s not about the BC.

    What a bunch of idiots huh?

    He’s ineligible. His “dad” was born in Kenya.
    He has only one american citizen parent. He needs two. CAN ANYONE VOLUNTEER? 😆

    Case closed. Boot him out now!

    • 149 Jeremy1Esq April 27, 2011 at 10:53 am

      who is going to do it. Why this bs bc he just produced is such a good thing for Obama, is that it will make stupid/ass kissing people support him. These Obots couldnt begin to explain the concept of nbc, much less debate it. Its a non issue as a result.

      Unless this document is proven to be a fake and it can be shown he was born outside the USA, we are stuck with this guy who will likely serve at least one more term.

      No one is going to boot him out now.

      I hope Phil Berg keeps going and finds out the truth about has passports and post Indonesia citizenship. That is the best chance to get him out over this nbc stuff. No one wants to follow the Constitution or they would have forced the issue years ago. Failing to do so, gave time for Obama to play this bc game and get the issue focused on where he was born rather then who his daddy is. Even Trump is clueless how to respond.


    • 150 heather April 27, 2011 at 12:08 pm

      QL–his mother was not of the legal age to pass her citizenship to him — and one does take the citizenship of the father–but his mother was 6 mos shy of legal age.

  76. 151 Philo-Publius April 27, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Obama said today:

    “I know that there’s going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest. But I’m speaking to the vast majority of the American people, as well as to the press. We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We’ve got better stuff to do. I’ve got better stuff to do.”

    Sounds like marching orders to the media…DO NOT TALK ABOUT IT ANYMORE.

  77. 152 no-nonsense-nancy April 27, 2011 at 10:42 am

    What a scam this whole thing is. I’m so glad I don’t have TV. I can’t watch any of it. I depend on all of you guys to fill me in on what lies are being told.

    Heaven help us. We sure need it!

    • 153 heather April 27, 2011 at 12:05 pm

      NNN-I turned off the tv and radio when I heard fox news say he was born in Hi—-stupid people–and the radio off when Rush refused to talk about NBC on the BC!

  78. 154 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Look at his d*ckhead pic upstream….now TAPE this doc to his forehead and remind him that he f’d up. This doc should say 2 AMERICAN PARENTS NOT ONE……. OUT HE GOES.


  79. 155 Troy April 27, 2011 at 10:43 am


    I want everyone here to do something and then tell me if you see what I see.

    Click on this link It’s the new fake BC…..When it first loads and starts to appear on your screen, tell me if, for just an instant, you see ALL WHITE BLANK fields on the form where his personal info should be…..Then you will quickly see the black “type print” fill those white spaces.

    That is what happens every time I open it!!!

    • 156 Troy April 27, 2011 at 10:59 am

      This tells me that the original green form/paper and the typed text are two totally separate digital images and one of them is loading faster than the other.

      The image of the green form with all of the personal info fields “whited out” is loading quicker than the black print type/text.

      We are looking at one image pasted on top of another!

    • 159 drkate April 27, 2011 at 11:22 am

      yes, i see it

    • 160 Born in Illinois April 27, 2011 at 11:30 am

      I clicked on the link 4-5 times and it did it every time. It’s extremely brief but yes it happened every time.

    • 161 heather April 27, 2011 at 12:02 pm

      No mine does not do that, but looking closer at yours I also noticed the boxes lower right corner what type of doctor was checked. There is a box for a DO (dr of osteopathic medicine)not an MD–I don’t think DO’s were around at that time.

  80. 162 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 10:48 am

    It doesn’t load like tha for me. BUT it sure looks weird. It is a doc within a doc.

  81. 163 borderraven April 27, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Look at the back of Edith Coats’ Birth Certificate

    Edith Coats Hawaii Longform 1962 #151- 62 – 08498

    Edith Coats’ Birth Certificate is stamped on the rear:

  82. 164 anonymouse April 27, 2011 at 10:58 am

    it was called kapiolani maternity home in 1961

    A Century of Care for Hawaii’s Women and Children

    This is the story of two hospitals: Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home.

    Concerned about the welfare of Hawaii’s mothers, Queen Kapi‘olani held luau and bazaars to raise the $8,000 needed to open Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1890. She endowed her legacy with “Kulia i ka nu‘u” or “Strive for the highest.”

    In 1908, Albert and Emma Kauikeolani Wilcox donated $50,000 to start a children’s hospital. The community, concerned that two of every seven infants in Hawai‘i did not live to see their first birthday, rallied to match the Wilcox’s gift. A year later, Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened.

    The two hospitals joined in 1978 to become Kapi‘olani Medical Center for Women & Children. Staying true to its mission, the non-profit hospital has played a vital role in the health of Hawaii’s women, children and adolescents. It is staffed with highly skilled, compassionate physicians and nurses, dedicated to providing the finest care for Hawaii’s families:

    On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:28 AM, SJPP wrote:

    there’s implications that the nordyke twin forms aren’t even correct???

    The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children.[2][3][4]

    the data is being scrubbed from the net fast and furious
    BC debunked already

  83. 165 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Why put out an “abstract” doc? ? WHY??????? Cause he has mo real BC from HI…..

    Who in the world presents an “abstract” doc. It means nothing and he can’t get anywhere with this.

    • 166 Drew April 27, 2011 at 11:46 am

      He had to release an Abstract, so he could omit the final item #23: –

      “Evidence for delayed filing or alteration.”

      Item #23 would have shown, or pointed to his Indonesian adoption, and name change to Barry Soetoro.

      And it would reveal if: –

      1) he is still the adopted, Indonesian son of Lolo Soetoro,

      2) if he ever was Naturalized, to regain his U.S. Citizenship,

      3) if he ever legally changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama.

  84. 168 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 11:09 am

    I can’t f’n stop laughing at Barry’s latest circus. what a clown. 😆

  85. 169 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 11:10 am

    His sasquatch wife says he’s born in Kenya. So what gives???

    What a f’n liar 😆

  86. 170 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 11:18 am

    He uses phoney Social Security numbers and now has forged his 2nd BC doc and he’s not very good at forgery. 😆 what a dumb dork. He’s waaaaaaaaay dumber than a bag of rocks. He just committed another crime against his nation!

    • 171 Quantum Leap April 27, 2011 at 11:23 am

      This nation not “his” nation.

      NEW THREAD…..SEE UPSTREAM !!!!!!!!

    • 172 heather April 27, 2011 at 11:52 am

      Think of it this way—-someone, whoever forged this bc added the birthplace of his father as kenya east africa–which was NOT on any of the other forgeries! ooppps

  87. 173 Troy April 27, 2011 at 11:21 am

    The new fake BC is suppose to be an image of an open page of a book lying flat on a copier or having a scanner passed over the open book page….That’s plain to see.

    Then why, oh why, does all of the security paper marks of the “opened page” line up PERFECTLY with all of the security markings of the paper that it is printed on?

    That, people, is an IMPOSSIBILITY!!!

  88. 174 ARMY D.A.V. April 27, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Houston we have a problem , load the Adobe PDF reader version and view the document at 400 percent magnification , another Photoshop creation ,layers and a very poor job at that.

    Why ? , all this time and this piece of junk .

  89. 175 Troy April 27, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Here is the fake creature disassembled…Read it and weep, Obots….Before this is all over with, your boy is going to jail!

  90. 179 no-nonsense-nancy April 27, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Did anyone else notice that the left side of this phony BC is shaded and slightly curved inward, making it look like it was copied from a book? Interesting.

    I hope little boy barky doesn’t try to join the Little League with this version of a BC!

  91. 181 Troy April 27, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Good grief!….They’re complete idiots!!!

  92. 182 AttilasDaughter April 27, 2011 at 11:55 am

    I think somebody mentioned a while ago that they use security paper that cannot be copied. It can, but then something shows up that indicates that.

    And it would be nice to see anything else than another digital picture.

  93. 183 Tenacity April 27, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    To help stay focused on important issues, let me clear up the “abstract” thinking. I am a real estate broker and have 30+ years of experience with abstracts(legal documents). So that I am not winging it, but referencing an official definition, I give you Black’s Law Dictionary, 3rd Edition: abstract, n. A concise statement of a text, esp. of a legal document; a summary.

    In this case, the HI DOH stamp refers to “true copy or abstract,” either of which would refer to a certified legal document IF THE CERTIFICATE WASN’T A STINKING POOR QUALITY FORGERY. I really expected a better forgery…the stupidity is unbelievable. The LSM is so stupid to think the people are blind morons that they don’t realize how embarrassed they should be by this amateurish fraud.

  94. 184 Tenacity April 27, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    You’ve GOT To Be Kidding Me (Birth Certificate)
    Who needs Pollarick or Dr. Polland?

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