Obama Can’t Defeat His Own Strawman

©2011 drkate

I am laughing out loud.😆

shuckin' n jivin'--even that is faked

The legally eligible future King of England gets married, and the tasteless, clueless usurper Obama, a British commoner and uninvited to the world festivities,  is still trying to prove he was born in the United States.

And the the much touted ‘release’ of a digital image of  Obama’s non-certified long form certification of live birth still doesn’t prove it!  Why? Because it is so obviously a fake that intelligence agencies around the world already have concluded that the digital image is a “rank forgery”.  Confirmed.

Obama's Straw man II: The Birth Certificate

The Obama machine’s second straw man–the birth certificate— was defeated by his own arrogance, stupidity, and a couple of lousy photoshoppers.

“Straw man” is one of the best-named fallacies, because it is memorable and vividly illustrates the nature of the fallacy. Imagine a fight in which one of the combatants sets up a man of straw, attacks it, then proclaims victory. All the while, the real opponent stands by untouched.

Like the judicial invention of  ‘standing’, Obama has set up another straw man, the  fallacy that ‘the birth certificate’ was enough to prove he was not a usurper to avoid the crushing reality that he is not a natural born citizen and still not eligible for the Presidency.

Description of  “The Birth Certificate  Straw Man”

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person’s actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of “reasoning” has the following pattern:

  1. Person A has position X.  A Natural born citizen is born in US of two citizen parents owing no foreign allegiance, and Obama is not a natural born citizen
  2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X). Obama and bots say birth in the United States is the only criterion for a natural born citizen
  3. Person B attacks position Y.  Obama gripes that he has submitted it, calls everyone racist who disputes it, delays, jails or neutralizes opponents…then releases another forged version
  4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed. Therefore, I am/Obama is a natural born citizen and eligible for the Presidency.

This sort of “reasoning” is fallacious because attacking a distorted version  of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself . (emphasis added)

In other words, producing a COLB or proving U.S.birth does not attack– or refute– the nbc requirement that both parents must be U.S. citizens, and that Obama was born with divided allegiance.

Obama has conceded, and proven once again by this latest joke of an electronic image, that he is not a natural born citizen, and not eligible for the Presidency.

When your opponent sets up a straw man, set it on fire and kick the cinders around the stage. Don’t worry about losing the Strawperson-American community vote.

not a natural born citizen

143 Responses to “Obama Can’t Defeat His Own Strawman”


  1. 1 drkate April 29, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    There are those on our side who fully support, and still do, the birth in the US and one citizen parent as ok…that debate must be in a valid supreme court as to whether that is true. In the meantime we have no legal or constitutional authority to separate birth place and parental citizenship and must accept what the constitution has meant for 235 years.

    Corsi will have some information that will jeopardize Obama, but we must view this BC as a false flag, strawman, burn it up ourselves, and continue to press NBC and his illegality.

    I believe as we speak either all his records are being forged or they have been destroyed.

    • 2 jtx April 29, 2011 at 4:48 pm

      drkate :

      … or hidden away!

      Keep in mind that WE ALREADY KNOW THE UNAMBIGUOUS LEGAL DEFINITION OF THE TERM-OF-ART “natural born Citizen”!! It was put into the law of this land by the United States Supreme Court decision in the 1875 Minor v. Happersett case and has never been overturned (but even has been recognized and confirmed in other cases since that time). At the time of the decision in Minor it was almost 100 years after the nation’s founding and even now 230-plus years later it still means the same thing. One simplified way of stating this is “born in the US of 2 US citizen parents”.

      The actual 1875 Supreme Court opinion in Minor v Happersett:

      “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. “ (emphasis added)

      This means the simple “born in America of 2 citizen parents” still is the active, pertinent law of our land. It should in conjunction with A2S1C5 of the Constitution, be the law that determines Obama’s fate … of course he and the Flying Monkeys won’t agree; they’d rather just ignore or rewrite the Constitution, but I wouldn’t.

      • 3 drkate April 29, 2011 at 4:51 pm

        Thats what I keep saying. That is the law, and we don’t have any legal authority to arbitrarily say its just birth place!!

        So we need to get to that discussion…

        • 4 RacerJim April 30, 2011 at 9:52 am

          What I keep saying is that the U.S. Constitution is the legal authority which says it’s not just birth place!!

          We do indeed need to get to the discussion that the U.S. Constitution itself differentiates a “citizen” from a “natural born Citizen” via the difference in its eligibility clauses for members of the House and Senate vs its eligibility clause for President — the former allowing any “citizen” while the latter allows only a “natural born Citizen”. No one can legitimately argue that President is not a higher government position than Congressman or Senator, therefore no one can legitimately argue that “natural born Citizen” is not a higher form of citizenship than “citizen”.

          The 14th Ammendment describes numerous ways someone would be a “citizen”, none of which is being born to citizen parents. In ommiting the latter the 14th Ammendment effectively eliminates being born to citizen parents as resulting in one being a “citizen”. No one can legitimately argue that being born to citizen parents results in one acquiring a lessor form of citizenship than any/all other ways, therefore it must result in a higher form of citizenship than “citizen”.

          The only higher form of citizenship mentioned in any of the U.S. Constitution’s eligibility clauses is “natural born Citizen” in its eligibiligy clause for POTUS, therefore, “natural born Citizen” can only mean born to citizen parents.

          Assuming Obama’s father was who Obama claims he was then Obama CANNOT be a “natural born Citizen” and therefore WAS NOT eligible to seek the Office of the Presidency and IS NOT eligible to serve in the Office of the Presidency.

          OUT WITH THE USURPER!

      • 6 Katie April 29, 2011 at 6:57 pm

        “These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

        Hello! Didn’t his campaign website state that he was a “native-born”? As if we’re supposed to believe native born and natural born are synonymous.

        Let’s not forget the games that were played in ’09 with the ‘adoption’ by the Indian tribe. There’s a connection with all this, I’m convinced.

  2. 7 workingclass artist April 29, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    I think his college records won’t be destroyed because the colleges own them. I don’t think they would put themselves at risk. Until a judge grants discover they can’t release them. The irony is that now that he is POTUS they are considered presidential achives.

    • 8 jtx April 29, 2011 at 4:51 pm

      The unfortunate truth is that ALL judges so far that had an opportunity to hear a case such as Kerchner et al v. Obama et al turned coward and did what John Marshall called “… treason to the cOnstitution …”.

      What other judges are there except the American people???

  3. 9 no-nonsense-nancy April 29, 2011 at 4:10 pm

    I think his records have been destroyed. We probably will never see them. They, he and his cronies, are so stupid and nonsensical. HeHe, they just keep digging their hole deeper, don’t they? No author could write a book nor Hollywood make a movie to justify this circus they are performing in! It’s like a book that I don’t really like but have already invested so much time into that I want to finish it but can’t wait to be done with it!

    • 10 AttilasDaughter April 29, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      “It’s like a book that I don’t really like but have already invested so much time into that I want to finish it but can’t wait to be done with it!”

      Very well said, just how I feel too.

  4. 11 no-nonsense-nancy April 29, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    You are right, Workingclass, the schools would have them. Although Columbia may not because there is speculation that he never went there. Although schools do like big donations. And we know that he has all that money from his terriorist friends.

    • 12 workingclass artist April 29, 2011 at 6:34 pm

      Many College & University programs run the risk of losing accreditation if they willy nilly get rid of certain records….Applications, financial scholarships & loans, transcripts….usually transposed onto microfiche…
      Depending on the discipline they often library dissertations etc…The more prestigious the private school like Harvard the more careful they are…just sayin’

      • 13 Susu April 29, 2011 at 10:57 pm

        This is true…however, there are alot of Sandy Bergers around who will take the chance & get away with it.

  5. 14 JustaFly April 29, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    This is one more in a list of OBVIOUS deceptive attempts to continue the debate from the Usurper-in-Chief.

    I find it inexplicable that this document, the last documents, the other “strawmen” that have been tossed out there was a mistake.

    Maybe my tin-foil hat is screwed on too tight today, but this was no accident that the forgery was soooo sloppy. What am I missing?

    • 15 drkate April 29, 2011 at 4:33 pm

      I agree.

      • 16 jtx April 29, 2011 at 5:00 pm

        Maybe JustaFly doesn’t see that an obvious fake gives the Flying Monkeys the opportunity to thrash out all sorts of questionable “explanations” as to how these “layering” things are really just by-products of the software used and mean nothing but to show how crazy anyone is who thinks it’s a fake.

        Of course if that’s true (and I doubt it) why did they go to such arcane lengts of scanning, converting, etc. in the first place ehen the simplest and safest (from the standpoint of protecting the document in its bound book) would be to take a multimegapixel camera photo in situ (right there in the bound book) yielding directly an unmanipulated *.jpg or *.tif image??

        • 17 Drew April 29, 2011 at 6:11 pm

          Chances are, the bound books of paper birth certificates were photographed using microfilm cameras, beginning about 30 years ago, to record them onto microfiche (4 x 6 inch microfilm cards, with rows of tiny images).

          Then the microfiche (and more-recent paper documents) were scanned and digitized, beginning about 10 years ago. At that point the paper birth certificates were reportedly destroyed.

          So what Obama released this week came from the electronic file(s) that were “scanned from” microfiche, perhaps 10 years ago. And it appears that several “microfiche scans” (electronic image files) were used, and “edited together” into a final “electronic document”.

          Had they wanted to release a single, genuine electronic image file, that would have been simple, and produced two .jpg or .tif files, without involving any “layers”.

          Two images include the front AND the back.. The back has room for notes and references about adoption- and name-change- files, etc., that are located in other Hawaiian government offices, if the item #23 on the front becomes too crowded (“Evidence for Delayed Filing or Alteration”).

          Without seeing the entire back side, the document is definitely incomplete.. Remember, they didn’t ever show the entire back of the previous (four distinct types of) short-form COLBs either…

  6. 18 Alex April 29, 2011 at 4:31 pm

    The reason that The Powers That Be and Obama don’t worry about the natural born citizen clause is because, as it stands in the Constitution, there is a lot of leeway in the exact definition. They feel very, very strongly that they’ve burned enough evidence and falsified enough documents and killed and threatened enough people so that no one can really pursue the natural born citizen argument, legally – *so long as enough people keep believing that Barry was born in Hawaii.*

    That is why Donald Trump has been so effective. He has no trouble saying he doesn’t believe Soetoro was possibly not born in the United States. And “The Donald” has enough money and clout that the Shyster-in-Chief actually rushed a ridiculous forgery out to show that he was born in Hawaii. Soebarkah is scared $#!tless that someone will prove he was born in Kenya. Trump could be instrumental in that – he’s just that powerful and pushy!

    In my opinion, anything other than proof that Obama was born in Kenya, or that he is using a dead man’s Social Security number, or other crime, like the aforementioned forgery (goodnes knows he’s probably committed an untold number of crimes that we haven’t discovered yet) will go nowhere.

    Of course, there are sincere people, and they are absolutely right, that say that the “law” should be followed, and NBC means two citizen parents and born in America. But that is not in solid rock. Vattel would say it is so, and I would agree. But I don’t think that is ever going to go anywhere, even if it should. That’s why Barry “Barack Obama” Soetoro readily admits his father was a Brit. He knows TPTB have set the stage for that to go absolutely nowhere, and we’ve seen that happen with case after case thrown out with specious excuses.

    What is in solid rock is that Junior was not born here, and that Stanley Ann Dunham could not confer citizenship on him because of her age. That is a solid rock. And since BO was not born here, he doesn’t have a legit Social Security number. That is solid rock. The document he just put out is a forgery, and that’s fraud. Let’s begin to demand that he be arrested. Let’s get louder and louder until the True Believers can hear nothing else!!

    All other ground is, to quote a great hymn, “sinking sand.”

    • 19 drkate April 29, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      the ‘solid rock’ that he was born in Kenya, if it doesn’t come out in Corsi’s book, is not going anywhere either imho.

      • 20 Alex April 30, 2011 at 6:56 am

        The way it’s looking right now, I think it *could* go somewhere if Trump pursues it. It would be nice if some other brave, super-famous, super-rich, super-influential soul or two would join him. Is that too much to ask, for America?? I know it is a lot to ask, because whoever goes there may not come back, i. e., will be killed for their trouble. But if TPTB kill someone famous and as well liked as Donald Trump, there will be hell to pay, and quickly.

    • 21 jtx April 29, 2011 at 5:04 pm

      Alex:

      In the Constitution – yes since the term appears only once. It is however defined as to that is, unambiguously, a “nbC” as my above post about the 1875 Minor decidion states. Check it out.

      • 22 Alex April 30, 2011 at 7:32 am

        I understand what you’re saying, and appreciate your post. But this:

        “Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.”

        leaves a hole as big as a barn for Obama and The Powers That Be to sail through, legally. It would be *nice* if they would follow the obvious intent of the framers, but, as we have seen, they, and the Supreme Court, and the Congress, and the media, will fight tooth-and-nail to find every loophole and slide through it. They have also been preparing to circumvent the NBC requirement for an ungodly long time.

        Being born in Kenya, OTOH, will be a game-changer and a game stopper. Same for the Social Security number fraud.

    • 23 jtx April 29, 2011 at 5:21 pm

      Alex:

      The term “nbC” is defined in our laws as I showed about in the Minor decision which has been backed by other decisiona since and never been overturned.

      But, of course, you have to use the law we now have and not believe the Constitution should be trashed so you can do whatever you wished.

  7. 24 JanH April 29, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Dr. Kate-

    I have never kept up with celebrity gossip and such so I don’t know how the royal weddings work as far as who is normally invited. Is it customary for heads of state to be invited to royal weddings all the time? It does make sense that it would be. In which case, the fact that the O’s were not invited is extremely condemning. It could imply that either the Brits do not recognize O as a head of state, or that they do not consider him an ally.

    Were any of our ranking officials invited, do you know?

    I just hope that the world is not mad at all of us Americans because of him.

    But he has been such a pig to England….

    (Perhaps they just did not want to be embarrassed by a stupid gag gift!)

    • 25 drkate April 29, 2011 at 4:42 pm

      not sure, but I bet if we were invited, no one could go unless barky was invited. I think they know he is not a head of state and its a message to us.

    • 26 AttilasDaughter April 29, 2011 at 5:23 pm

      I haven’t seen the guest list, but heard Sarkozy was invited for example.
      My opinion is that it had to do with the fact that Michelle Obama actually hugged the Queen at their visit.
      This is an absolute no-no!
      Never ever under any cicumstances.
      There is a protocol that has to be observed.
      The Obamas behave like totally classless fools.
      No invite.
      Don’t they at least have advisers that could tell them those things? One wonders.

    • 27 Jan April 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

      When obat first took office he insulted the Queen. So what do you expect?
      He gave her dvds of his speeches? in a format that could not even be played in England.
      He returned the bust of Churchill that had sat on the Presidential desk for years. He puts his feet on the desk that is so valuable and also came from England.
      He and MO went to England and were seemingly rude because they have no class and did not know how to act. However when they go to Muslim countries he bows to their dictators.

      I’m thinking the Queen is gracious, but not stupid.

    • 28 JanH April 29, 2011 at 6:27 pm

      All of the above!!🙂

    • 29 Sallyal April 30, 2011 at 8:22 am

      The way it was explained on the news the other night was that this was NOT a state wedding/event but rather a private event and Will and Kate had the final say as to who was invited or not. They obviously preferred not to have jughead and sasquatch there.

    • 31 drkate April 29, 2011 at 4:49 pm

      our response has to be, after laughing, is that whether it is legit or not, Obama is not because his father was not american.

      • 32 jtx April 29, 2011 at 5:17 pm

        The Fox “expert” Tremblay is completely oblivious to the fact that there was no real requirement to scan it in the first place (especially with OCR turned on) and make a pdf,

        Using a good digital camera (or possibly even a cell phone camera) would have givea a very good *.jpg or *.tif image much nmore quickly and will much lower possibility of damage to the containing book – could have been done in situ; right on the spot of the ook.

        Why go to all of the time of processing and manipulation of scan/pdf conversion … unless you wished to hide or obliterate the evident fraud that had been done to the various layers???

    • 33 AttilasDaughter April 29, 2011 at 5:27 pm

      He didn’t examine the actual document, right?
      Just the digital picture.

      I rest my case.

    • 34 JanH April 29, 2011 at 5:35 pm

      Wow! That would explain why the number is out of sequence with the Nordyke twins.

      • 35 Bones April 29, 2011 at 11:05 pm

        JanH,

        What are you referring to as the explanation?

        • 36 drkate April 29, 2011 at 11:09 pm

          There are two comments, one by me and another person that I removed because it contains info that is just kind of breaking and not yet validated. Don’t want to say anything or lead to premature stories.

          • 37 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 11:35 pm

            hope it’s good news!

          • 40 JanH April 30, 2011 at 10:51 am

            Oops! Sorry. I didn’t see this comment before I posted the comment below.

            All, please disregard both comments from me.

            • 41 drkate April 30, 2011 at 11:14 am

              I’m the one who should be sorry. I put out the link when I shouldn’t have…but I am sure within the week everyone will know ‘where the numbers’ came from!

              • 42 Troy April 30, 2011 at 11:56 am

                ****HE’S BUSTED!!!….Finally!!!****

                BC on Aloah News..thanks. It is also on Repubx. Madlyn signed it? wow if true. hmmmm
                ——————————————–

                PROOF ABSOLUTE: This was the original BC altered to become what you saw on April 27.
                by DFX April 30, 2011 00:14
                From Blogsphere:

                Notice at the Bottom: “Birthplace Kenya; Registered Honolulu. Notice, Madlyn Payne Obama signed the certificate.

                From the Aloha Reporter 2010 archive .. snapshots taken on 04/30.

                The difference between the two are mainly the signatures and numbers, this is has to be why they show in separate layers in an altered version (replaced with Stanley Ann’s sig).

                Notice the word “Negro – African” was changed to just ‘African’ to match the first forgery of the short-form.

                The screen captures below are a little uneven. It is show that this came from the archive. The whole certificate is shown below that.
                +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
                Here it is people….The real deal!…Barky’s going to jail!!
                http://www.repubx.com/

                • 43 Tenacity April 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm

                  what the heck is going on with the sequence of comments?

                  • 44 Tenacity April 30, 2011 at 12:01 pm

                    I was going to post the Aloha Reporter BC last night but someone had posted the link in here yesterday.

                  • 45 Drew April 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm

                    (Tenacity wrote – April 30, 2011 at 12:00 pm:)

                    what the heck is going on with the sequence of comments?
                    …………

                    Good question — I just replied to:

                    Troy @ April 30, 2011 at 11:56 am

                    … but my message appeared separately (not indented at all), and below yours…

                    Now this new message should be indented below yours (as quoted herein).

                  • 46 sky April 30, 2011 at 4:47 pm

                    How GOLDman sachs created the food crises website beforitsnews under featured money

                • 47 Drew April 30, 2011 at 12:18 pm

                  This is “The Blaine Document” — from October 2009:

                  http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/the-blaine-document/

                  The “HRS 338-17.8” rule noted on the bottom was not passed until 1982, indicating that (at best) it is an altered document.

                  • 48 anonymouse April 30, 2011 at 2:17 pm

                    Not necessarily altered since the territory of Hawaii gave registered birth certificate to Sun Yat Sen in 1904!! they’d been doing this forever!

                • 50 heather April 30, 2011 at 1:51 pm

                  Then he was born in Kenya per that document/bc–google HRS-338-17.8/hawaiian law for births out of state if one can prove they previously lived in HI. See ‘per grandmother’ at the bottom.

                  And the plot thickens!

        • 51 JanH April 30, 2011 at 10:47 am

          This got misplaced somehow. This was to a comment way above stream. I can’t find the comment anymore, but it was about Obama’s certificate being taken from a baby who died.

  8. 52 Debbie G April 29, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    Doesn’t Terry Lakin NOW have standing??? I mean after all he has been harmed, he should have standing!!!!!

  9. 53 Papoose April 29, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    The Post and Comments are great!

    This is deliberate and its in your face.

    I think that The Daily Pen has a great take on it…another view to consider because there is an iota of truth, but thats all an iota.

    Lets focus like a laser beam on the Seal. You know. You see it don’t you? Uh huhn, its there. shuck and jive.

    No Seal. No Deal.

    Maybe the Wizard can whip in one up on his way back home to Kansas. Leavenworth.

    • 54 Alex April 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm

      Totally agree about the seal. Easy to understand concept, and it’s widely known that you need one for a document of this sort to be legit.

      It’s got some other stuff there, too, but here’s a link with the Nordyke birth certificates, where you can see the seal on both. I sent it to my sister, who seems to be having a hard time believing what’s going on in Washington:

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292457

  10. 55 DABIG April 29, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    I’m sure you all have seen this right? (note the Birthplace in box 23 which shows Kenya, Africa)
    I’ve heard it was “debunked” due to the statute it sites in box 23 was not in effect at that time yet neither was “African” or “Kapiolani Medical Center” in 1961, yet those are on BC’s.

    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/comment-page-1/#comment-81

  11. 56 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    This was posted on Conservative Monster!!

    http://images.quickblogcast.com/0/8/8/4/7/185470-174880/obamabirthcertificate.jpg?a=40
    Steve Cooper
    The Conservative Monster.com

    http://theconservativemonster.com/2011/04/29/certificate-of-live-birth-birthplace-kenya-registered-in-honolulu.aspx

    One of the many thousands of loyal Conservative Monster fans sent me this link. I must say that if this photo is genuine…this explains why that piece of crap that Obama released the other day was allegedly EDITED with Photoshop

    NOTICE: At the bottom of this copy of the COLB it states Birthplace Kenya; Registered Honolulu – Per Grandmother.

    Please post The Conservative Monster link if you share this post and LINK

    Thank you,

    Steve

    This is from the Aloha Reporter March 2010:

    http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/

    • 57 AttilasDaughter April 29, 2011 at 5:33 pm

      The three signatures look very alike. Hmm.

      But Mrs. Dunham’s signature look like that, I’ve seen it before.

      • 58 AttilasDaughter April 29, 2011 at 5:33 pm

        looks

      • 59 DABIG April 29, 2011 at 5:46 pm

        Yes, noticed that too. My contention is however, dismissing this as fake due to a statute introduced later than 1961 is not a valid reason. We can clearly see other (Kapiolai Med Cntr., African) info is now being updated into their BC’s.

      • 60 JanH April 29, 2011 at 5:56 pm

        They do look a lot alike. I would have taken the two top signatures to have been written by the same person (I think the bottom one looks pretty different). It’s hard to tell. There are some differences, though. The Ms are written differently as are the lower case ns. But the swoopy capital letters look like the same handwriting to me.

        However, the rest of the info is very very believable. I have no trouble at all with the designation “Negro-African.” And Madilyn Dunham’s signature date is 8/5, just one day after the birth. That is very believable.

        I notice also that the last signature here is not a ukelele. (Ahem.)

        And it is very telling that the forgery does NOT have that bottom row. Nor does it have the hospital as UNKNOWN-Kenya, Africa.

        Gee. I wonder why?????

        I do think it is very believable, though that should not be taken to mean I am persuaded it is genuine. But I do think it is possible that it could be, unlike the latest fake.

        Now, where did it come from? And why does the Aloha Reporter have it? And why has it not been widely circulated among “birthers?”

    • 66 drkate April 29, 2011 at 7:46 pm

      Kenya was not in existence when obama was born or Obama SR was born either

    • 70 Teo Bear April 30, 2011 at 5:02 am

      It is a fake, HRS 338-17.8 did not become law until 1982.

      Forget the BC’S guys, we need to pound away on the quality of a Natural Born Citzen. A natural born citizen is a person born with unalienable and undivided allegience to the United States. This is a Supreme Court description of a natural born citizen.

      Obama’s lack of allegience to the USA

    • 71 Teo Bear April 30, 2011 at 5:17 am

      It is a fake, HRS 338-17.8 did not become law until 1982.

      Forget the BC’S guys, we need to pound away on the quality of a Natural Born Citzen. A natural born citizen is a person born with unalienable and undivided allegience to the United States. This is a Supreme Court description of a natural born citizen.

      Obama’s lack of allegience to the USA is our strength.

      On March 3, 1961 his father applied for an extension of his student visa, but he was married to Ann on February 7, 1961, so why didn’t he apply for Residency?

      The reason is he never intended to become a member of our society, he never intended to place himself completely under the jursitiction of the United States.

      Even after Obama was born Obama Sr. never once asked to be a part of our society, instead he always applied for extensions of his student visa, even though he stated on these requests he had a son born in Honolulu!

      Obama Sr. was a transient, and Justice Story said, that those who are transients cannot claim citizenship for their children born in the us. In WKA Justice Gray uses a line from section 48 of Justice Stories work to make WKA a citizen, but look at the second sentance.

      Persons, who are born in a country, are generally deemed citizens and subjects of that country. A reasonable qualification of this rule would seem to be, that it should not apply to the children of parents, who were in itinere in the country, or abiding there for temporary purposes, as for health, or occasional business. (Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Conflict of Laws Foriegn and Domestic) You can read this as a confict of laws between English Common Law and American Comon Law.

      As Dr. Kate is saying the BC is a strawman issue, to keep us away from the real issue which is allegiece.

  12. 72 True Patriot April 29, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Great article Dr. Kate as always. My take on this pathetic desperate move by this illegal fraud via Valerie Jarrett, is just that. They are desperate and so is all the corrupt news media who have invested all of their time given this dangerous usurper a pass and covering for him while he destroys America.

    I say our group is stronger than ever and the radical libnuts and leftards are totally dismantling.

    The out of control screaming in the interview where Lawrence O’Donnell screams at Orly Taiz showed an agenda crumbling right before our very eyes.

    The mock up speech Obama gave saying this silliness and he doesn’t have time for it yada yada yada and pretending to laugh about it is a lie. They are covering their tracks with more lies.

    This massive fraud and scam that has been done to the American people is so wide reaching that this scam will crack just like every cover up in history.

    You can only be a fraud for so long until your house of thugs falls, and that is exactly what we are now seeing happen.

    This arrogant, narcissist thinks he is beyond the law, and that his shadow gov’t and Commie buddies will take care of him no matter what.

    At this point the NWO probably is viewing him as a grave liability to their cause to take over the world. In other words the fraud in his narcissist state has jumped out of his choker chain and is just winging it, screwing things up. One mistake after the next.

    There is nothing smooth about this operator. Hell he can’t even get before an audience without his teleprompter.

    He has never shown any class or savvy whatsoever and we won’t even go into Mooochele aka Mrs. Darth Vader the fraudette.

    Yes Pimp Daddy Bama & the “Pimpettes” time is drawing near.

    That is why the left is acting out their tantrums like O’Donell, Matthews, Madcow. Be Hog and Whoopi have also lost it because they are using an expired race card.

    Hey Whoopi, why don’t you try and call Rev. David Manning a racist? He’s a black minister from Harlem.

    Pathetic , desperate Communist stinking pigs.

  13. 74 borderraven April 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    The question of a “fake” or “forgery” hinges on

    Hawaii Revised Statutes regulating how certified copies are produced, and whether or not a computer generated digital format, in lieu of a hardcopy paper document is legal and acceptable in a court of law. [1](HRS §338-13 Certified copies quoted below).

    In the PDF image see how the green security paper background is seamless behind the vital record, even though the record is bent?

    That said, if the original paper form the birth data was recorded on was white, with black or red form lines and text; then
    a birth certificate was initiated by hospital staff, signed and routed for processing and recording; then
    a xerox-copy or photograph using black and white print film was made, containing in-whole the image of the record in the binder[2]; and then
    the negative was digitized; and then
    that image was photocopied or laser-printed onto the green-printed security paper[3]; and then
    a date stamp and certified stamp applied using rubber stamps and black ink; then
    an embossed raised seal; then
    there is no plausible reason that the graphic elements could be separated from a scanned image converted to a PDF using Adobe Photo-Shop.

    Hawaii DOH went digital in 2002, and the digitization would account for some anomalies, but a printed hard copy paper certificate, scanned or photographed, cannot be dissected using Adobe Photo-Shop.

    Kenya was not so named until December 1963!!! It was British East Africa Protectorate –

    Has no visible raised seal.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
    http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/27/white-house-barack-obama-birth-certificate-hawaii



    CONCLUSION: FAKE AND FRAUD.

    [1] … “HRS §338-13 Certified copies. (a) Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate, or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
    (b) Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.
    (c) Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer printout or other process approved by the director of health. [L 1949, c 327, §17; RL 1955, §57-16; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; HRS §338-13; am L 1978, c 49, §1]” …

    [2] In the 1960’s it is more likely the binder of birth certificates would have been scanned by a photocopy (Xerox) machine look, and printed onto a single sheet of security paper. This is apparent in the Nordyke bc. BTW-There were no lasers in early Xerox copiers.
    [3] Note in the PDF image how the green security paper background is seamless and flat behind the vital record.

  14. 75 Jan April 29, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    From a different blog here,there was quite a bit of chatter on the adoption. I too believe his certificate in Hawaii (if there ever was one) was sealed or destroyed when obat was adopted.

    Mario might be right, Indonesia may have the answers.

    I used JB Williams web site and sent my letter to my Congressman.
    Also sent a copy to his top aid. http://www.newswithviews.com:80/JBWilliams/williams147.htm

    I then posted the site on Dr. K’s last blog and mailed it out to over 50 patriots in my address book.

    I was not amazed, but disappointed that I got several e-mail back stating that I had it wrong, that obat was a Citizen.

    So, I spent more time sending info out that quotes the Constitution and several that show case law.
    I guess I should have educated them prior to sending the tool for them to write to their Congress Critters and have the letters waiting for them on Monday morning. Oh well, live and learn.

  15. 76 Teo Bear April 29, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Great article Kate, especially like your method for dealing with the strawman. We have been called so many names by those who reject the foundations of our nation, the Constitution that each time I get their venomous emails I know we are doing what is right. Those that live in darkness hate the light, but it is the light that allows us to find our way.

    No, we must resolve ourselves to continuing the fight, for the fight is not against a man, who is called Obama, but the fight is for a idea that government derives it just powers from the consent of the people. The idea that government is of the people, by the people and for the people. We fight for a future for our posterity, a gift we give to those whose time has not come.

    We fight against those who would oppress us with the overbearence of a tyranical government. This is a fight we must win, for there will be no future in the world ruled by Obama and those who support him for people whose natural instinct is to seek freedom.

    Semper fi,
    Teo

  16. 78 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Dr. Kate, when I define NBC to a person born with 1 US citizen parent, if they’re an obot they freak out and insist they ar still NBC if born in USA. I guess they make it personal.

    • 79 DABIG April 29, 2011 at 7:26 pm

      Yet it took them only hours to make the claim that Trump didn’t qualify for POTUS because his momma was born in Scotland. Obot’s have a short memory and double (racist) standard for others. They also forget the original “Birthers” were Democrats who insisted McCain cough up his Long Form Birth Certificate for further examination. Gotta love their passion for the usurper, right?

    • 80 drkate April 29, 2011 at 7:57 pm

      are you defining NBC with one citizen parent? And if so, based on what?

      Not every American is an nbc. they may feel like they are entitled to the position but they are not. It was for a specific reason.

      • 81 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 8:49 pm

        no, 2 US citizen parents born on US soil!!!!!

        but what I’m saying is those that BELIEVE the are NBC are warpath-like when told otherwise

    • 84 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 10:52 pm

      Let me clarify my intent since I was sooo tired when I wrote this:
      I am a SOLDIER defining NBC as born incountry of parents who are its citizens. I use The Law of Nations, Bingham, Obama, Logic, SCOTUS precedent, to back it all up.

      I was just noting that because people are so uneducated, they cannot admit that there’s a certain group of statutory citizens who are not “natural born citizens”. Now by far the vast majority of Americans are NBCs, but those with an alien parent are NOT NBCs. Most acknowledge that they aren’t eligible to be POTUS, but some take deep offense to this, and are insane about not having the option (“As If” right?). It was just a note.
      Now Dr. Kate acknowledges that she is not NBC, though she is a US Citizen and is more Americans than many NBC Americans!

      • 85 drkate April 29, 2011 at 10:56 pm

        Thank you so much, and thank you for your service.

        I agree with you totally, and jumped on the “1” parent typo…as it is totally crazy right now. Again my apologies. 😳

      • 86 Drew April 30, 2011 at 9:01 am

        Anyone can follow the latest youTube videos about Obama’s new long-form, pdf COLB, using this link:

        http://www.youtube.com/results?suggested_categories=25%2C22&search_query=Obama+Birth+Certificate+pdf%2C+today

        ( Obama Birth Certificate pdf … filtered for “uploaded today”)

        There are some videos appearing that seriously debunk the allegation that the “pdf COLB anomalies” are somehow nefarious.. For example:

        Other side of the argument:Obama Birth Certificate + reproduction of so-called Tampering – 4:47

        Obama PDF Explained – Linked elements, transform + rotation history, clipping masks – 4:57

    • 87 Quantum Leap April 30, 2011 at 10:36 am

      NOPE. Born of one citzen parent = ‘naturalized’ NOT ‘Natural Born” Again why beat a dead horse with a stick? He needs to resign or be removed. He is tearing up the constitution and is now working behind closed doors to remove the 2nd amendment. He is BUSH on steriods. He is bad for Amercia and his obots are foreigners who don’t know the difference between “Natural Born citzen” and “naturalized citizen”. They need to STFU and BUTT OUT!

      The news bobble heads know damned well the difference between “natural born” and “naturalized”. They are complicit with this illegal charade.
      [shuh-reyd; especially Brit. shuh-rahd] –noun– a blatant pretense or deception, especially something so full of pretense as to be a travesty.)

      The world is watching and they know what we are going through with this usurper. Don’t doubt it.

      The ‘wedding’ was beautiful. All the Catholic pomp and circumstance is a welcome relief. No invite to the racists in chief. What a relief. They’d try to steal the show from the bride and groom.

      Now he needs to be removed. No more discussion. He is the biggest scammer ever.

  17. 88 JanH April 29, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Completely OT (almost):

    Has anyone seen this?

    Superman to renounce his American citizenship before the U.N.

    “Truth, justice, and the American way– it’s not enough anymore.”

    http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/04/27/superman-renounces-us-citizenship/

    (That’s the original source of the article but I found it somewhere else.)

    • 89 DABIG April 29, 2011 at 7:30 pm

      It’s the Progressive way. Good, hope he drops by Barry’s WH and scoops him up on the way to the U.N.

  18. 90 Drew April 29, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator – Official Proof

  19. 93 no-nonsense-nancy April 29, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Oh no, superman went global! Is that political correctness? I never took him for being a progressive. Do you think for a certain sum of money he would round up BO and his cronies and just fly them right on down to H**L where they belong? Of course there may not be enough room down there for all of them.

    • 94 JanH April 30, 2011 at 7:12 am

      It is anti- national (and specifically anti- American) one worldism, which political correctness is essential to facilitate.

      The underlying message, as I see it, is that this (former) American icon has determined that it is no longer productive to the greater good of humanity to continue to be identified with (American) nationalism.

      I have no idea how one renounces one’s citizenship, but I am pretty sure there is no such thing as a citizen with no country. I don’t think the U.N. is where one goes to renounce a citizenship. One would have to exchange that citizenship for citizenship in another country so the renunciation would be between the individual and those two countries, not the U.N. But we have Superman just renouncing his American citizenship (and that it’s an American citizenship could not possibly be more relevant) and that not before another country, but before the organization currently representing the world body of nations. Superman has chosen to become a World Citizen with no nation and that in the name of doing good. Translation: nationalism is bad, even for Americans, and this message is ESPECIALLY necessary for Americans to embrace.

      On the psychological level, American Superman fans are now denied the pride building enjoyment of holding the powerful, popular, and good Superman as the quintessential American icon representing Truth, Justice, and the AMERICAN way because he has just divorced those concepts from himself. Therefore, his fans are thrown into the position of choosing between him and their nation. I wonder if they will recognize this?

      The satanic deceit is evident. Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy and this, too, is an example of Satanic theft. This classic American icon has been stolen from the people-hijacked for globalism-but (again deceit) that is hidden by the fact that this decision comes out of the mouth of Superman himself.

      Are we surprised? No. But it is very very ugly and disturbing.

  20. 95 no-nonsense-nancy April 29, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Regarding the non-invitation of the Clampett gang from 1600 I read in one of the British newspapers yesterday that Toni Blair and Gordon Brown weren’t invited either.

    • 98 drkate April 29, 2011 at 11:12 pm

      This is Alinsky pure and simple, and called ‘saturate the blogs with new and old versions of the COLB’, including the Kenyan BC.

      don’t fall into the BC strawman trap, which the COLB saturation strategy is

      • 99 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 11:27 pm

        This was the Hawaiian registration of the Kenyan birth…
        ???

        • 100 drkate April 29, 2011 at 11:33 pm

          how can anyone make a determination on a photograph or pdf of a photographed document?

          What about comparisons with other COLB’s that have attachments which describe modifications? What about the date of existence of the HRS law cited?

          This thing was debunked more than a year ago.

          • 101 anonymouse April 30, 2011 at 3:56 am

            true it’s just a photograph–it’s just that Steve at Conservative Monster was putting his oomph behind it…
            aren’t they all photographs? has anyone seen the Lucas one on a piece of paper?

            • 102 drkate April 30, 2011 at 9:27 am

              No, and that is a problem! We should stop analyzing this one because it does not have a seal.

              And we should demand that Obama release it for public inspection

            • 103 Tenacity April 30, 2011 at 3:56 pm

              Yes, Several people, including several prominent attorneys have seen the Kenyan BC allegedly obtained by Smith.

              • 104 drkate April 30, 2011 at 4:03 pm

                the alleged kenyan bc until forensically examined like all the rest!

                • 105 Tenacity April 30, 2011 at 5:10 pm

                  I agree that it must be authenticated, but the question was has anyone held the document. Thus far it has been held by numerous respectable parties and yet to have been debunked. I also agree that the BC question is a red herring and we should focus on NBC, because no matter where he was born, he is still NOT a Natural Born Citizen as he was NOT born of citizen parentssssssss.

      • 106 Az Watcher April 29, 2011 at 11:57 pm

        Alinsky and Game Theory right from the Rand Corporation. The birth certificate is a red flag for the bulls. It is rather obvious that Obama’s strategy was to put out a shoddy copy then sic his minions on it–knowing the birthers would charge. The better strategy now is the NBC argument. It is quite apparent the founders allowed dual citizenship only at the time the Constitution was written. No need for legalese. Very simple.

        Also. His name is Barry. Barry Soetero. We have that on school records. So why the need for a school record. We have that evidence. Simple. Very.

        Just remember
        Confusion is Barry Sotero’s friend. Dr. Kate is right. As usual.

        Must be the gift of discernment.

  21. 107 DABIGRAGU April 29, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    (DABIGRAGU/formally DABIG)
    Alford, a 2008 Obama supporter, labeled the administration “Marxist” and “fanatical.” “They might as well put on the brown shirts and swastikas,” he said.

    He also admitted he voted for Obama simply because he was black.

    • 108 anonymouse April 29, 2011 at 11:36 pm

      “Hope’s not hiring! Hope’s not filling gas tanks!”

    • 109 AttilasDaughter April 30, 2011 at 11:53 am

      My husband is a black American. He was a Hillary supporter, but he went PU instead of PUMA, and voted for Obama.(PUMA stands for “party unity my ass” for those of you who don’t know that)
      Anyways, this morning he told me he is not going to vote next time.
      Obama is in big trouble.
      The DNC must know that.

  22. 110 drkate April 29, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    OT related to last post..

    Is this the beginning of the Supreme Court set up, and why Barky ordered 2 copies of his COLB?

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=293005

    Or is this c-span recorded hearing a set up for the Constitutionalists?

    • 111 anonymouse April 30, 2011 at 3:53 am

      Sotomayor and Kagan again will not recuse themselves and the outcome is in peril of not reflecting the Constitution one iota.

      Kagan removed the Wrotnowski case off the dockets prior to election, as S.C. clerk, for which she was rewarded handsomely. Roberts swore in a foreigner. Sotomayor is an Obot. I don’t know the count but if need be I wouldn’t put it past Obama to rub out or threaten as needed. He’s got everything to lose/gain.

      There is NO WAY We The People will prevail in the form of any legitimate opinion by people who have PROVEN they are rank criminals who work for communist interests ALREADY.

  23. 112 Voco Indubium April 30, 2011 at 1:05 am

    RE: GOP Strategists Fear Fallout From Obama Birth Record

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/GOP-strategists-fear-fallout-obama-birth-certificate-release-205171-1.html

    In nutshell, this article says that the GOP leadership and the GOP strategists are all in full agreement not to use the eligibility issue, because it would hurt the GOP candidates.

    There is not a word about the constitutionality of the issue. The (irrationally) perceived election disadvantage overrides respect for the constitution.

    In reality, no candidate can raise the $1 B for the campaign that the regime will have. Still about half of the voters have a religious admiration for O. Most of these do not understand the current events and could not care less about who is right on policies.

    No candidate can win without disqualifying O first. This very realistic scenario does not even earn a single mention in the article, and apparently in the minds of the GOP elite.

    How is that possible? Have they not learned from their failure of nominating McCain in 2008?

    They are either very unrealistic in assessing the situation or they want O to be reelected. There is no other alternative.

    It seems that Trump may have to run as independent if he keeps trying to uncover the truth. The GOP wants to cover up the truth – ignoring the constitution.

    Go Donald.

  24. 113 jane April 30, 2011 at 6:43 am

    As of TODAY, I will no longer watch FOX NEWS.

    They had an “expert” who claims the BC is legit.

    Guess they have now sold their souls, or lacktherof, to the evils that be.

    SO DONE with all of them.

  25. 115 jane April 30, 2011 at 6:44 am

    Having difficulty posting for some reason, hope this doesn’t duplicate.

    As of TODAY, I will no longer watch FOX NEWS.

    They had an “expert” who claims the BC is legit.

    Guess they have now sold their souls, or lacktherof, to the evils that be.

    SO DONE with all of them.

  26. 116 anonymouse April 30, 2011 at 6:57 am

    I think given their SCOTUS plan, it may be better to let the BC be an admission statement instead of challenging it per se. He just admitted he’s not NBC.

    See, the Supreme Court ALREADY RULED on what NBC is, so any talk of letting this corrupt pack of criminals “decide” on that is actually them OVERTURNING existing case precedent. That is what they’d need to do.

    In the meantime, we need to sue in those states with eligibility laws that Obama admits he’s not a natural born citizen based on Supreme Court precedence (Minor, Wong, etc.). Minor HOLDS that no 14th amendment citizen is ever a natural born citizen, so that’s a slam dunk right there. Wong HOLDS that no child of an alien is ever a natural born citizen, so that’s slam dunk #2.

    The point is, DON’T LET THEM BRING THIS TO SCOTUS TO LET THEM DECIDE ON A MATTER THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SETTLED.

    • 117 drkate April 30, 2011 at 9:30 am

      I agree. I am increasingly worried that the Taitz case on Monday will be their excuse to get it up to the Supreme Court. Remember Judge Roll, who was killed, would have been on that panel reviewing the case.

      sotomayor, kagan and roberts will not recuse themselves–they are preparing to get the “1 citizen parent” installed, making our constitution null and void.

      anyone with different ideas here please weigh in

      • 118 eddie h. April 30, 2011 at 12:44 pm

        dr. kate / i fear the same . that is why it is crucial to prove this photoshopped fake birth certificate is just that and get the word out all over the u. s. a. donald trump does not seem to have an interest in doing this so i am coming more suspicious of him and his motives every day. he has the money and he should have several forenics experts on this now examining the document and declaring it a forgery to the world.

  27. 119 tiger 7 April 30, 2011 at 7:05 am

    Is there finally a crack in the media sell-out to bho?? The flap overthe ouster of the SF Chronicle reporter from a recent fund raiser might well be the start of something much bigger. Let us hope so!!!

  28. 120 Alex April 30, 2011 at 7:11 am

    Good morning! Here’s a wonderful idea to wake up to from Lame Cherry, with a most clever tag line – “Go West, Hair Man”!:

    “…I have some advice for Donald Trump which he should take.

    “I suggested at the start of this in Donald Trump going to Leavenworth Kansas and staging a rally for Lt. Col. Terry Lakin. The details in this are he could hook up with Joseph Farah who would [publicize] Trump for the story, and Trump could link into Jerome Corsi’s upcoming [snip] book which will erode the British Obama in toto.

    “Yes Mr. Trump, go west hair man, and visit Kansas as there is a tornado there if you blow enough which will puff Mr. Obama’s house of cards down.”

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/04/advice-to-donald-trump-at-heart.html

    I love the idea. If Trump were to do this, he would leave every else in the Republican field in the dust, not to mention bring Barry Soetoro to his knees. Americans would rally around “The Donald” in droves, IMHO.

    I’m definitely going to write Trump and suggest this. For anyone else who is interested, here is his address (if you can find a better one, please post it – this is what I’ve found so far):

    Donald Trump
    The Trump Organization
    725 Fifth Avenue
    New York, NY 10022

  29. 121 Papoose April 30, 2011 at 7:47 am

    here’s a picture of baby strawman with his older brother Mark.

    http://markobamandesandjo.com/home.html

    Do note in “Help the Kids” the big brother declares himself as an American and then below in “About the Novel” he elaborates on his potential family and his search for his “true identity”.

    in the picture they declare barky as “David”…. yeah sure.

    the toddler Mark sure does look an awful like Frank Marshall Davis.

    Strawpeople

  30. 122 charlesmountain April 30, 2011 at 8:23 am

    WND pushing the Natural born citizen and S. RES. 511

    Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

    Obama’s McCain resolution demands ‘American’ parents http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292901#ixzz1L1JzRGOW

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292901

  31. 124 charlesmountain April 30, 2011 at 8:31 am

    9th Circuit will hear eligibility arguments
    But attorneys say dispute involves much more than birth certificate

    “The case has been pending since the 2008 election. The plaintiffs alleged that Obama’s qualifications were not checked properly, and that has resulted in a violation of the U.S. Constitution, a man occupying the Oval Office who does not meet the requirements that only a “natural born Citizen” can hold the office.

    California attorney Orly Taitz told WND today that her hope is for a decision that will return the case to the district court for proceedings, which could include a discovery process through which a large number of Obama’s life documents could be obtained.”

    Good Luck Orly and may God Bless You!

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=293005#ixzz1L1Lo4Vxy

    http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=293005#ixzz1L1LcrvtJ
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=293005

    • 125 charlesmountain April 30, 2011 at 8:52 am

      Guess what prompted Obama to release birth certificate!
      Request to Hawaii came day after Corsi book hit No. 1

      http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=292997#ixzz1L1OMif

      Something tells me this is not going to bode well for the Usurper.

      I cannot even begin to imagine the fall-out that is going to hit the MSM and all the conservative pundits, talking heads and radio hosts that blew this off in the long run when he is finally proven ineligible.

      • 126 heather April 30, 2011 at 12:25 pm

        I guess this means that all of the co-sponsors are going down as well. Clearly by NOW they all know by looking at the so called bc that he is ineligible. Not one of them have come forward — are they this afraid of their outcome? To know the law and keep quiet makes them so quilty and are now co-spirators.

  32. 127 heather April 30, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Quite an interesting subject–why wasn’t all of this known prior to this bogus paid for election.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/harvard_and_state_department_g.html

  33. 128 Drew April 30, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Sorry for the double post.. the one above is way out of sequence, so here it is again:
    …….

    Anyone can follow the latest youTube videos about Obama’s new long-form, pdf COLB, using this link:

    http://www.youtube.com/results?suggested_categories=25%2C22&search_query=Obama+Birth+Certificate+pdf%2C+today

    ( Obama Birth Certificate pdf … filtered for “uploaded today”)
    …….

    There are some videos appearing that seriously debunk the allegation that the “pdf COLB anomalies” are somehow nefarious.. for example:

    Other side of the argument:Obama Birth Certificate + reproduction of so-called Tampering – 4:47

    Obama PDF Explained – Linked elements, transform + rotation history, clipping masks – 4:57

  34. 129 Drew April 30, 2011 at 10:13 am

    This appears to be proof that Obama really was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961… and that he’s a serial liar:
    …….

    “The Obama Lie That Drove the Birther Movement”

    By Jack Cashill – April 29, 2011

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/the_obama_lie_that_drove_the_b.html

    • 130 drkate April 30, 2011 at 10:20 am

      Interesting, but I am not convinced! 🙂

      That he is a serial liar, of course I agree. His birth place? I still don’t know and don’t care.

      Its his father’s citizenship that makes him ineligible

    • 131 Troy April 30, 2011 at 11:50 am

      That doesn’t prove a thing!…He could have still been born in Kenya and registered in Hawaii by his grandmother….The person that wrote that memo would have had no way of knowing about a scam like that….The only thing that memo (if it’s even real and wasn’t recently tossed into archives by CIA) suggests is tha Baby O and Mammy and Pappy were all in Hawaii back then…..We already know that!

  35. 132 Tenacity April 30, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Hey Kate’s Gang! Growing up in Nashville, I was just about sick of country music by the time I went to college. Well, time has a way of changing a person and today I have a new favorite song. As a matter of fact, I’d like to propose this song as the new theme song for DrKatesView.

    When You’re Holding a Hammer (Everything Looks Like a Nail)

    This note from a friend in Hawaii came with the link.

    Subject: Tennessee Football Coach fired for making Obama song –

    He’s going to make more money when this song becomes a big hit than he would teaching school.

    Tennessee middle school assistant football coach, age 26, fired for a song he wrote and played!

    When you go to the link for the song, there are a couple of sites that give the news on the firing. This could be the next number one hit country song. It’s the best effort yet at encapsulating the outrage at the oversteps of this government in an entertaining song.

    Apparently, the guy was fired over the song because some parents complained. If you like it, help it go “viral” by passing it along to everyone you know.

  36. 133 Troy April 30, 2011 at 11:54 am

    ****HE’S BUSTED!!!….Finally!!!****

    BC on Aloah News..thanks. It is also on Repubx. Madlyn signed it? wow if true. hmmmm
    ——————————————–

    PROOF ABSOLUTE: This was the original BC altered to become what you saw on April 27.
    by DFX April 30, 2011 00:14
    From Blogsphere:

    Notice at the Bottom: “Birthplace Kenya; Registered Honolulu. Notice, Madlyn Payne Obama signed the certificate.

    From the Aloha Reporter 2010 archive .. snapshots taken on 04/30.

    The difference between the two are mainly the signatures and numbers, this is has to be why they show in separate layers in an altered version (replaced with Stanley Ann’s sig).

    Notice the word “Negro – African” was changed to just ‘African’ to match the first forgery of the short-form.

    The screen captures below are a little uneven. It is show that this came from the archive. The whole certificate is shown below that.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Here it is people….The real deal!…Barky’s going to jail!!
    http://www.repubx.com/

  37. 134 Troy April 30, 2011 at 11:55 am

    ****HE’S BUSTED!!!****

    BC on Aloah News..thanks. It is also on Repubx. Madlyn signed it? wow if true. hmmmm
    ——————————————–

    PROOF ABSOLUTE: This was the original BC altered to become what you saw on April 27.
    by DFX April 30, 2011 00:14
    From Blogsphere:

    Notice at the Bottom: “Birthplace Kenya; Registered Honolulu. Notice, Madlyn Payne Obama signed the certificate.

    From the Aloha Reporter 2010 archive .. snapshots taken on 04/30.

    The difference between the two are mainly the signatures and numbers, this is has to be why they show in separate layers in an altered version (replaced with Stanley Ann’s sig).

    Notice the word “Negro – African” was changed to just ‘African’ to match the first forgery of the short-form.

    The screen captures below are a little uneven. It is show that this came from the archive. The whole certificate is shown below that.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Here it is people….The real deal!…Barky’s going to jail!!
    http://www.repubx.com/

  38. 135 Rich T April 30, 2011 at 11:55 am

    A lost Muslim kid in a department store was trying to find his Mother…

    The Store Manager says “What does she look like??”

    The Kid says..”Damn if I know…”

  39. 136 Paxson April 30, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    DrKate, I have always felt the truth laid in the numbers, amongst many other truths that I’m counting on Corsi to expose to the light of day.

  40. 137 Jan April 30, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    A short Youtube video that puts this in perspective for your unbelieving friends, neighbors, family, etc.
    Especially forwarded it to your Congress Critters.

    After I sent out the request for people to contact their Congressmen/women I received a lot of e-mail telling me that obama WAS eligible to be president.
    I think you will be more understanding of what is a Natural Born Citizen, according to the Resolution that is explained in this video.

    If this is in writing in Corsi’s book, what excuse can Congress come up with to keep looking the other way?

  41. 138 anonymouse April 30, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    you’re soooo right Dr. Kate, about the next line of attack being the 1 US Citizen parent suffices as NBC

    I’m being attacked by bots on this more vociferously than ever, it’s their new talking point, the prodrome to the next phase. They have NO choice but to do this, to cover their arses.

    Time to get to the states is now, with the rulings already there, Minor, Wong Elg, Law of Nations, and SR511!!

  42. 140 Jan April 30, 2011 at 4:38 pm

    Miki Booth starts new Bill Whittle series, here is part one:

    • 142 heather April 30, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      Well–watergate eh? Just say it, his father was a british subject–stop trying to be PC and spit it out–for heavens sake.

      Could it be anymore obvious that he is a usurper and all of congress, the senate, the scotus, msm, are all laying low so as not to implicate themselves–too bad — you are all guilty!

  43. 143 Starla May 2, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    “WORLD INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES: OBAMA’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE A RANK FORGERY”

    http://www.dailypaul.com/163097/world-intelligence-agencies-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate-a-rank-forgery

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    MUST SEE OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!!!!!

    “OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKED IN ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR – OFFICIAL PROOF”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

    Look & listen carefully to the 3:27 mark where the narrator states, “Now, allegedly this birth certificate was “scanned” onto a computer. If you know anything about scanners and scanning inside of Adobe Illustrator, it keeps it on one layer! It doesn’t…there is no such thing as technology for a scanner that will separate parts of the images to different layers. SO, IF THEY SCANNED THIS, WHICH THEY SAY THEY DID, IT WOULD ALL BE ON ONE LAYER. However, here there are multiple layers as you can see, and even inside of these, there’s more! I’m just going to show you, ah, this is the original one. Right here, the bottom layer is the first layer they started out with…”

    And, see & listen to especially at the 4:38 mark: “This is added on the computer. This isn’t even penmanship, it is added on a computer,” and look at the 5:04 mark for information as well!!

    Here is the person’s name and email address who created this video and posted it online, if people have any further questions.

    Albert Renshaw, 2011 (albertiphonedeveloper@yahoo.com)

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “DR. RON POLLAND EVALUATES OBAMA’S “BIRTH
    CERTIFICATE” – THEY FORGOT TO FLATTEN LAYERS”

    Introduction By Sharon Rondeau

    April 28, 2011

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/04/28/dr-ron-polland-evaluates-obamas-birth-certificate/comment-page-2/#comment-54052

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    “OBAMA’S ONLINE ‘BIRTH CERTIFICATE’ DOCUMENT ‘WAS CHANGED’ – ANALYSIS RAISES POSSIBILITY CONTENT OF TEXT WAS ALTERED”

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WorldNetDaily
    Posted: May 01, 2011

    Read More Here: “ONLINE ‘BIRTH CERTIFICATE’ DOCUMENT ‘WAS CHANGED’” http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=293421#ixzz1LE5awV2D

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


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