Questions for Marco Rubio

©2011 drkate

This essay is written to clarify the questions regarding Senator Marco Rubio’s constitutional eligibility for the office of Vice President or President.  During this study, it has become apparent how important the citizenship of the parents is to determining whether the child is a natural born citizen and why this remains a national security issue at its core.

Natural Born Citizen?

We understand that in the 235 years of our Nation’s history, the definition of ‘natural born citizen’ as used in our Constitution has not changed.  From this it is paramount that both parents must be citizens and have no foreign allegiance when the child is born in order for that child to be the Constitutional Article II natural born citizen.  On the surface then, Marco Rubio is not a natural born citizen because his parents were not American citizens at the time of his birth but naturalized four years later.

One would think this is the end of the story.  Not.

Rubio’s supporters, including republicans who don’t think about Article II, obots still trying to justify Obama’s existence, and the Tea Party, will want to bury Rubio’s natural born citizen issue first and foremost, perpetuating or covering up the constitutional crisis we are in with the usurper Obama. This will be done either for expediency to defeat Obama or continuing to cover for Obama, but it perpetuates a disservice to our Constitution.

For those who would like to take an analytical approach, examining the real questions of citizenship instead of glossing over them, this article is for you. The analysis reveals that in order for Marco Rubio to stand for either President or Vice President, he would need a SCOTUS ruling to determine if his citizenship at birth was undivided and unalienable.  Without this ruling, he would be another constitutionally ineligible candidate, no matter how much you like him.

Cuba–A Sovereign State or U.S. Protectorate?

Spain, Great Britain, and the United States all have had major roles in the settlement of and wars over Cuba.  The native Cubans had consistently fought the spanish in a bid for independence, and asked the United States for assistance.  During Cuba’s  second war of independence in 1897, the battleship USS Maine was sunk in Havanna Harbor, which prompted the Spanish-American war. In Cuba the war became known as “the U.S. intervention in Cuba’s War of Independence”.  Spain and the U.S. ended the war, and Spanish dominance in the Caribbean, in 1898 with the Treaty of Paris.  U.S. military rule of the island of Cuba persisted until 1901.The Platt Amendment of 1901 stipulated the conditions for U.S. troop withdrawal from Cuba.

The Platt amendment stipulated that the United States could exercise the right to intervene in Cuban political, economic and military affairs if necessary, and replaced the less specific Teller Amendment. It was to define the terms of Cuban-U.S. relations for the following 33 years and was bitterly resented by the majority of Cubans. Another consequence of the amendment gave the United States continued use of the southern portion of Guantánamo Bay, where a United States Naval Station had been established in 1898.

U.S Occupation ended May 20, 1902, and the Cuban–American Treaty was signed on February 17, 1903, recognizing Cuba as a sovereign republic and offering protection of Cuban citizens in return for Guantanamo Bay.

While the Platt Amendment offered protection of Cuban Citizens, it can be argued that it did not, however, create a formal “U.S. Protectorate” status as Cuba was regarded as a separate state under international law.

In history, the term protectorate has two different meanings. In its earliest inception, which has been adopted by modern international law, it is an autonomous territory that is protected diplomatically or militarily against third parties by a stronger state or entity. In exchange for this, the protectorate usually accepts specified obligations, which may vary greatly, depending on the real nature of their relationship. However, it retains sufficient measure of sovereignty and remains a state under international law. A territory subject to this type of arrangement is also known as a protected state

The other use of the term protectorate refers to states that are not regarded as separate states under international laws, such as the British Colonies in America before the war of independence.

Nowhere in the Platt Amendment or the Cuba-U.S. Treaty is American citizenship granted to any Cuban national.  Because Cuba was not a formal protectorate of the United States, and recognized as a sovereign state under international law, residents of Cuba are Cuban citizens, and never had American citizenship bestowed upon them.

The Cuban Constitutions and Citizenship

Cuba drafted its first Constitution in 1901, incorporating the Platt Amendment, which gave the U.S.the right to intervene in Cuban affairs.  This Constitution was in effect until replaced by the 1940 Cuban Constitution.  Between 1903 and 1934, the United States constantly intervened in Cuban affairs and governance.

As stated above, Cubans remained Cuban citizens, not American citizens during this time.

The Platt Amendment portion of the Cuban Constitution was repealed in 1934 through the Treaty of Relations signed between the U.S. and Cuba.  A Cuban constitutional convention led to the drafting of the 1940 Constitution, which defined Cuban Citizen by birth or naturalization:

ART. 12. Cubans by birth are:

1st. All those born in the territory of the Republic with the exception of the children of aliens who may at the time be in the service of their Government.

2nd. Those born in foreign territory, of Cuban father or mother, by the sole act of their becoming inhabitants of Cuba.

3rd. Those having been born outside the territory of the Republic, of father or mother who were natives of Cuba, but who may have lost this nationality, who reclaim Cuban citizenship in the form and subject to the conditions stipulated by law.

4th. Aliens who served for one year or more in the army of liberation, remaining in it until the termination of the War of Independence, provided they affirm this service with an authentic document issued by the national archive.

ART. 13. Cubans by naturalization are:

1st. Aliens who, after five years of continuous residence in the territory of the Republic, and not less than one year after having declared their intention of acquiring Cuban nationality, obtain the letter of citizenship in accordance with the law, provided that they know the Spanish language.

2nd. An alien who marries a Cuban woman, and an alien woman who marries a Cuban, in case offspring result from such union, or if they maintain two years of continuous residence in the country after their marriage, and provided that they previously renounce the nationality of their origin.

Note that the 1940 Constitution requires citizens to take proactive steps to secure their citizenship, even though they are called Cuban citizens. Importantly, the 1940 Constitution also includes descriptions of who loses their Cuban citizenship:

ART. 15. The following lose Cuban citizenship:

1st. Those who acquire a foreign citizenship.

2nd. Those who, without permission of the Senate, enter the military service of another Nation, or accept the discharge of duties that are inconsistent with Cuban authority or jurisdiction.

3rd. Cubans by naturalization who reside three consecutive years in the country of their birth, unless they express every three years, before the appropriate consular authority, their desire to retain Cuban citizenship.

The law may determine crimes and acts of unworthiness that may cause the loss of citizenship by naturalization, through definite sentence by competent tribunals.

4th. Naturalized citizens who have accepted double citizenship.

Loss of citizenship for the reasons designated in Clauses (b) and (c) [i.e., 2nd and 3rd Clauses, above] of this article shall not be made effective except by definite sentence pronounced after due judicial process before a tribunal of justice, as the law may provide.


In 1944, Batista was defeated in a fair election.    During the regime’s rule political gangsterism swept through Cuba and shook Cuban society to its very core. According to the constitution of 1940 the University of Havana was an area in which civil and milltary police were not allowed. The result was that these political gangsters were able to murder with impunity and use the University as refuge from the authorities. These groups were used  to wipe out communist infiltration of the Unions. The situation worsened to the point that Fulgencio Batista was able to justify a coup de etat which took place on March 10, 1952.

Back in power, Batista now suspended the 1940 Constitution and revoked most political liberties, including the right to strike. He then went into league with the wealthiest landowners who owned the largest sugar plantations, and presided over a stagnating economy which saw a widened gap between rich and poor Cubans.[9] Batista’s increasingly corrupt and repressive regime then began to systematically profit from the exploitation of Cuba’s commercial interests, by negotiating lucrative relationships with the American mafia, who controlled the drug, gambling, and prostitution rackets in Havana, and with large multinational American corporations that had invested considerable amounts of money into Cuba.[9][10] To quell the growing discontent amongst the populace — which was subsequently displayed through frequent student riots and anti-Batista demonstrations — Batista established tighter censorship of the media, while also utilizing his anti-Communist secret police and U.S.-supplied weaponry to carry out wide-scale violence, torture and public executions; ultimately killing as many as 20,000 Cubans.[11][12]

Having initially supported Batista, at the end of 1958 the United States under the Eisenhower Administration began an arms embargo on the Batista Regime which was interpreted as U.S. support for Fidel Castro and his revolutionaries. Castro took over the Cuban government on January 1, 1959.

Castro’s actions in nationalizing industries and seizing private property alarmed the Eisenhower administration and also caused thousands of Cubans to seek refuge in the United States.

In 1966 the Cuban Adjustment Act was signed into law. Over a million and a half Cubans sought political refuge in the United States. Building an enclave of economic and cultural power in Miami which has changed the face of South Florida. Cuban exiles organized into a huge umbrella of political and para-millitary organizations throughout this period. Groups such as Alpha 66, Commandos L, and Omega 7 targeted Castro agents abroad and military and security targets inside the island.

The Cuban Adjustment Act allowed the Attorney General of the United States, at his discretion,

…As to the status of any alien who is a native or citizen of Cuba and who has been inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States subsequent to January 1, 1959 and has been physically present in the United States for at least one year, may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if the alien makes an application for such adjustment, and the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence… The provisions of this Act shall be applicable to the spouse and child of any alien described in this subsection, regardless of their citizenship and place of birth, who are residing with such alien in the United States.

The next Constitution drafted for Cuba was in 1976 which contained the following slightly revised stipulations for citizenship:

ARTICLE 28. Cuban citizenship is acquired by birth or through naturalization.
ARTICLE 29. Cuban citizens by birth are:
a) those born in national territory, with the exception of the children of foreign persons at the service of their government or international organizations. In the case of the children of temporary foreign residents in the country, the law stipulates the requisites and formalities;
b) those born abroad, one of whose parents at least is Cuban and on an official mission;
c) those born abroad, one of whose parents at least is Cuban, who have complied with the formalities stipulated by law;
d) those born outside national territory, one of whose parents at least is Cuban and who lost their Cuban citizenship provide they apply for said citizenship according to the procedures stated by law;
e) foreigners who, by virtue of their exceptional merits won in the struggles for Cuba’s liberation, were considered Cuban citizens by birth.
ARTICLE 30. Cuban citizens by naturalization are:
a) those foreigners who acquire Cuban citizenship in accordance with the regulations established by law;
b) those who contributed to the armed struggle against the tyranny overthrown on January 1, 1959, provided they show proof of this in the legally established form;
c) those who having been arbitrarily deprived of their citizenship of origin, obtain Cuban citizenship by virtue of an express agreement of the Council of State.
ARTICLE 31. Neither marriage nor its dissolution affect the citizenship status of either of the spouses or their children.
ARTICLE 32. Cubans may not be deprived of their citizenship save for established legal causes. Neither may they be deprived of the right to change citizenship.
Dual citizenship is not recognized. Therefore, when a foreign citizenship is acquired, the Cuban one will be lost.
Formalization of the loss of citizenship and the authorities empowered to decide on this is prescribed by law.
ARTICLE 33. Cuban citizenship may be regained in those cases and ways specified by law.

Cuban Citizenship over Time

In the century prior to 1901, Cubans were colonial subjects of Spain.  Under the 1901 Cuba Constitution, which contained the Platt Amendment, Cuba was a sovereign state recognized by international law, thus residents were citizens of Cuba.  Although loosely protected by the United States, no U.S. citizenship was conferred to Cubans in Cuba.

  • Mario Rubio (1927) and Oria Garcia (1931), were born under the 1901 Constitution of Cuba and Platt Amendment as Cuban citizens.

Under the 1940 Cuba Constitution, Cuban citizens had to take proactive steps to become a Cuban citizen.  Given this was the first real independent constitution without the Platt Amendment, we assume that most Cubans, including Senator Rubio’s parents probably took those steps.

Batista suspended the 1940 Constitution from 1952-1958 and it is unclear what happened with citizenship at that time, particularly with those who were known to oppose the regime.  Were there laws on the books outside of the 1940 Constitution’s provisions for loss of citizenship that stripped resistors or defectors of Cuban citizenship?

Fidel Castro came to power through rebellion against Batista, who had him imprisoned at one time.  Castro overthrew the Batista regime on January 1, 1959.  Castro did not restore the 1940 Constitution as he had promised but instead repressed any opposition, moving the country to a revolutionary marxist dictatorship, the tenets of which were enshrined in the 1976 Constitution.

Did the citizenship of Cubans under the 1940 Constitution change when it was suspended from 1953-1959?

  • In 1956, Mario Rubio and Oria Garcia left Cuba for the United States, long before Castro came to power.

In the context of the complex historical relations between the U.S. and Cuba, under what citizenship status did the Rubio’s enter the United States?  Were they (a)U.S. Nationals, (b) Political Refugees, (c)stateless,  (d) Cuban citizens or  exiles, or  (e) alien(s) lawfully admitted for permanent residence, eligible to receive an immigrant visa, and admissible to the United States for permanent residence?

  • The Rubios  never formally renounced Cuban citizenship at any time before they were naturalized in 1975.

It is important to answer this question because U.S. Nationals, for example, owe sole allegiance to the United States even though they are not U.S. Citizens.  Is it possible that the child of U.S. Nationals could be be a natural born citizen?

  • Marco Rubio was born in 1971 in the United States. Under the 1940 Cuba Constitution Marco Rubio was born with Cuban citizenship by blood (jus sanguines). 
  • The citizenship status of Senator Rubio’s parents at the time of his birth, given no other information, was Cuban.  Both parents then had a foreign allegiance at the time of Marco Rubio’s birth.

Legal research and clarification of the Senator’s parents’ citizenship status while in the United States is essential to determining whether Senator Rubio is a natural born citizen of the United States.

  • Senator Marco Rubio was born with dual citizenship at birth–from Cuba and the United States, the first under the 1940 Cuba Constitution, the latter under the 14th Amendment.
  • Senator Rubio’s parents did not become American citizens until 1975, four years after his birth.


Based on this analysis, Senator Marco Rubio is not a natural born citizen and is ineligible for the office of President or Vice President.  His parents were not American citizens at his birth and Senator Rubio was born with dual citizenship.

If Senator Marco Rubio wants to run for President or Vice President of the United States, this essay concludes that he should seek clarification from the Supreme Court that his U.S. citizenship at birth was unalienable and undivided.  Glossing over the issue does not speak well for his integrity, or those who would support him.  If SCOTUS refuses to give him that clarity, then Senator Rubio should voluntarily refrain or should be disqualified from running for either of these positions.

There will be those who attempt to empathize with the ‘American story’ of immigrants coming to escape persecution and make a life for themselves.  However honorable and compelling that story is, for many, it cannot be used to overlook the real constitutional requirements that the President and Vice President have undivided and unalienable allegiance.

The national security implications?  The last thing we need is a President or Vice President of divided loyalties whose allegiance includes a communist country.  What if Rubio still has relatives in Cuba who could be seized by the Castro regime for blackmail of the United States?

176 Responses to “Questions for Marco Rubio”

  1. 1 drkate July 27, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    A long one! The surprise is that Rubio was born with dual citizenship.

    • 2 anonymouse July 27, 2011 at 5:08 pm

      US law does not officially recognize dual citizenship; nowhere is there any statute which says you can both be a US Citizen and another citizen simultaneously.

      Nor does just being born in the USA make you a US Citizen. If a baby is born of 2 Mexican citizens in the USA, Mexico’s laws deem that baby a Mexican Citizen, and US Laws do NOT make it a US Citizen simply by place of birth.

      1866 Civil Rights Act (Reenacted in 1872 after addition of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution)
      14 Stat. 27-30, April 9, 1866 A.D.

      CHAP. XXXI.
      An Act to protect all Persons in the United States in their Civil Rights, and furnish the Means of their Vindication.

      “Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States; and such citizens, of every race and color, without regard to any previous condition of slavery or involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall have the same right, in every State and Territory in the United States, to make and enforce contracts, to sue, be parties, and give evidence, to inherit, purchase, lease, sell, hold, and convey real and personal property, and to full and equal benefit of all laws and proceedings for the security of person and property, as is enjoyed by white citizens, and shall be subject to like punishment, pains, and penalties, and to none other, any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, to the contrary notwithstanding.”

      • 3 drkate July 27, 2011 at 5:16 pm

        correct. Rubio is cuban by jus sanguines, owing to the 1940 constitution of Cuba.

        • 4 anonymouse July 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm

          Since CRA1866 is an ACT OF CONGRESS which is STILL ON THE BOOKS, why is it utterly ignored?

          To read the press, just so many people believe just being born here makes you citizen, because they twist the 14th amendment’s first part, which was only written to make former slaves into citizens “born subject to jurisdiction” because they otherwise had no jurisdiction.

          The fact that CRA1866 was reenacted after the 14th amendment was to leave to room for confusion that being born subject to a foreign power made you NOT a US Citizen.
          You have to PICK which citizenship you want, can’t have it both ways in the USA, just because the modern 14th amendment grants US citizenship if at least one of your parents is a US Citizen (not just if you’re born here), you may also have citizenship allowance for another country. But CRA1866 strictly says “pick US Citizenship ALONE or you’re not a US Citizen at all.”

      • 5 drkate July 27, 2011 at 5:39 pm

        For the purposes of nbc determination, however, there is no other option but to recognize that Rubio was born a dual citizen of cuba and the us. That is disqualifying…

        • 6 sky July 27, 2011 at 5:45 pm

          patriotactionnetwork on going criminal enterprise middle column might have to view all

        • 7 anonymouse July 27, 2011 at 5:54 pm

          NBC=Born In-Country of Parents Who Are Its Citizens…

          Lame Cherry argues his parents were its protectorates…

          “Contemporary usage of term Protectorate by the United States

          Some agencies of the United States government, such as the United States Environmental Protection Agency, still use the term protectorate to refer to insular areas of the United States such as Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. This was also the case with the Philippines and (it can be argued via the Platt Amendment) Cuba at the end of Spanish colonial rule. However, the agency responsible for the administration of those areas, the Office of Insular Affairs (OIA) within the United States Department of Interior uses only the term “insular area” rather than protectorate.”

          The Platt Amendment was reversed by Roosevelt before 1945. Conceivably (no pun intended) if his parents were born before then they were in the same category as a Puerto Rican.

          “Rubio is the second son and third child of Cuban exiles Mario Rubio (1927–2010)[2] and Oria Garcia (born 1931), and was born in Miami, Florida.”

          So indeed his parents were US Protectorate-Persons.

          I think myself that this is healthy, because his parents were exiles, it’s unlikely Rubio harbors any pro-communist sentiments. And if the liberals want to fan the flames of this debate we’re more than willing. I think either way we win, it either highlights the definition of natural born citizen or gets a conservative like Rubio in on the conservative running ticket.

          I would suggest he evacuate his relatives from Cuba before any more political steps in the USA.

          • 8 anonymouse July 27, 2011 at 6:02 pm

            I don’t see him as a dual citizen since his parents were born under US protectorate status and abandoned Cuba when after it claimed independence. Rubio’s parents couldn’t help Cuba’s revolution, but they got out to where they identified themselves, as Americans.

          • 9 drkate July 27, 2011 at 7:32 pm

            No, the point of the article is that Cuba was never officially a protectorate, and never had the benefits of US citizenship offered at any time in its history. The platt amendment was reversed by the Treaty of Relations and signed by roosevelt. Th Cubans threw it out in 1934 in the constitutional convention and the 1940 constitution had no platt amendment.

      • 10 SUSANM July 30, 2011 at 1:29 pm


        • 11 drkate July 30, 2011 at 3:18 pm

          Yes, another reason Obama is illegal because he was born a dual citizen.

          • 12 sky July 30, 2011 at 3:44 pm

            Go Dallas patriotactionnetwork Saw a deal on fox business about the founding father jefferson,and what he did for this country,and him changing into a satan like eyes or do we want this? Strange, I’ve seen other things for this country and signs. Never live in fear

  2. 13 attilasdaughter July 27, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    When Trump gave all those interviews, remember how the left blogs and media suddenly knew what an NBC is. And that it matters if his mother was a citizen at the time of his birth.
    Interesting, wasn’t it?
    When Rubio is nominated as VP the same thing will happen, how are they going to cover for Obama?

    • 14 Voco Indubium July 28, 2011 at 1:51 am

      Good point.

      However, when Trump was questioned about her mother, the media did not ask the same glaring question about O. As long as the GOP does not bring up the issue, the media, congress and the Judiciary Branch are determined to keep O’s ineligibility under the rug. They may even celebrate Rubio’s nomination as it would further ensure that the GOP is a partner in this fraud for good.

  3. 16 Troy July 27, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    I’m going to make this simple.

    Rubio is NOT a natural born Citizen.

    There is no need to complicate the NBC issue.

    Born on the soil of the United STATES and of two AMERICAN citizen parents.

    His parents were not American citizens, any way you slice it!

    Lets not forget that the term “natural born Citizen” is derived from Natural Law (Laws of God or God’s nature)…..A NBC does not require the laws of man to be so….If Rubio requires a ruling from the SCOTUS (man’s law) then there is the first hint that something is wrong.

    • 17 drkate July 27, 2011 at 5:15 pm

      It was this debate that drove me to write this. We may think its simple but you’d better believe all these arguments are going to come up–again. Rubio is a dual citizen, that is enough for me. If his parents were US nationals, then they had sole allegiance to the US, a precondition for natural born citizen child.

  4. 20 Papoose July 27, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    it’s an attempt at pure obliteration.

    the world has a problem with natural born American citizenship. The USA is no longer a place of protection for its original citizenry; its a place to rule for the “protected classes” with one excuse or another.

    America is not a doormat.

    natural born citizen means full blooded. its a Nation’s countrymen. Naturally.

    Marc Rubio, maybe your children are natural born citizens, being born to American Citizens. But at the time of your birth, you were not. It matters not where in the world you were born. if your Mom and Dad were not “naturalized” when you were born then maybe your a native born citizen…

    the word “born” would not even be stated in the citizenry requirement if it didn’t concern your status at birth. Natural Born citizen.


    Article II spells it out for the Presidency and the Twelfth Amendment backs it up concerning the status of the VP candidate. “born citizen”


  5. 21 jtx July 27, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    I’ve asked Marco Rubio to rise on the floor on Congress and explain his own “nativity story” and ask those assembled why Obama should be eligible an he, Rubio, even questioned as to eligiility.

    What’s fair for the goose is fair for the gander, etc.??? Will he do it??? Doubt he has the guts and the patriotism to do it. Why don’t some of the rest of you bombard him along those lines???

  6. 22 no-nonsense-nancy July 27, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Great essay, Kate!! Thank you for all the hard work and research you do. We cannot allow another non natural born citizen to get on any ballots or it will validate the usurper.

  7. 23 no-nonsense-nancy July 27, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Kate, are you not having your show tonight?

  8. 24 anonymouse July 27, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Rubio’s parents were born under US protectorate status, and exiled themselves after Cuban independence. To their minds, they were already Americans who moved to Miami, because they were born under US protectorate status.

    Rubio’s parents rejected Cuba as an independent entity by at great risk leaving it.

    I think Rubio’s case is highly arguable, Obama’s is not. In any case, the NBC debate is healthy.

    • 25 drkate July 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm

      I wrote this article specifically to challenge that notion, and I think I have proved my point. Cuba was never officially in protectorate status and remained independent even through the platt amendment. protectorate status does not confer the citizenship of the protector on the protectorate. It matters not how Rubio’s parents self identified…they had to have been actual US citizens,or US nationals in order for Rubio to even have a chance at being an nbc. Even then, the Cuban constitution gave him Cuban citizenship whether he liked it or not.

  9. 26 Papoose July 27, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    Truth be known, barky’s mother was not technically old enough by law to confer citizenship.

    besides that, she was an ex-pat for all intents and purposes. He has a dozen siblings \ 3% plus – minus margin of error / and not a one of them is American.

    its exhausting. he’s so busted.

  10. 27 stock July 27, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    Great Article-I had contacted his office early on about it-but really if it did come up-that could force the Obama issue into the light-
    Anyway what was really interesting is that you highlighted the involvement of the “mob” in Cuba in the late 50’s. If you take things to their logical conclusion including the fact that Joe Kennedy owned the largest commercial property in Chicago(where the election was won)-and that Joe Kennedy was apparently involved (and obtained his wealth) in questionable activities in the 30’s and had questionable ties-guess what happened after the Bay of Pigs was essentially called off-because of the Russian threat of nuclear war??? John Kennedy was a true hero–he knew what was going to happen after (he put the interests of America before his own or his family) he betrayed the deal his dad had made with those questionable interests to give him the election. Kind of makes you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

  11. 28 Papoose July 27, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    They are trying to set precedent. Obliterate Article II

    They have tried 8 times in recent times to redefine the requirement.

    how come?

  12. 29 Jan July 27, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    I have seen Rubio being asked if he would run for President or if he would be someone else’s running mate. He always “almost answers”, then looks odd and states that he came to DC to do a job and that is where his heart is.

    It almost seems like he wants to say he is not eligible and then catches himself (due to threats?)

    Dr. Kate, fantastic article as usual. Thank you so much for all the research. We must all copy it and save it for this and future generations.

    • 30 heather July 27, 2011 at 8:48 pm

      Jan-you are right, I have seen the same in him. Although I truly like Rubio, he is now ineligible for either office.

      Dr Kate-thanks much for this researched essay–good job and much appreciated.

  13. 32 Troy July 27, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    2nd Amendment violation
    Escalation in Arizona: Firearms confiscated
    Judge orders stunning action after councilman called ‘turd’
    Posted: July 27, 2011
    5:40 pm Eastern

    By Joe Kovacs
    © 2011 WND

    Residents of the Arizona town that’s now a YouTube sensation after police forcibly removed a woman speaking at a recent public meeting are now experiencing firearms confiscation by the government.

    The stunning action is taking place in Quartzsite, Ariz., where Town Councilman Joe Winslow has prompted the seizure of guns from local gem dealer and online entrepreneur Michael Roth because Roth allegedly glared at the councilman, blocked his entrance to Town Hall and called him a “turd.”

    Read more: Escalation in Arizona: Firearms confiscated

  14. 40 Troy July 28, 2011 at 12:31 am

    I enjoy listening to this guy’s ideas.

  15. 41 Troy July 28, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Wild Bill for President!!!!

  16. 42 Troy July 28, 2011 at 12:48 am

    Sharp as a tack and hits the nail on the head!

  17. 45 bill July 28, 2011 at 2:46 am

    I must say , Congratulations to ALL “Dodgers”, through political theater,you have succeeded in diverting Americas attention away from

    the illegal usurper sitting in the White House to a false flag event of the so called “Debt crisis” as Lady Liberty slowly spirals

    down toward a “totalitarian government” Well done !

  18. 46 Mick July 28, 2011 at 4:17 am

    It should be noted that Rubio’s parents were not naturalized for 17 YEARS after they arrived in the US. Given the protected status of Cuban exiles, they could have naturalized pretty quickly. Were they still harboring a desire to return to their homeland? Excellent article. Bottom line is that Rubio’s parents were not US Citizens, and could have been if they wished. Case closed. Not nbc.

  19. 47 Alex July 28, 2011 at 5:52 am

    All those that back Obama are probably rooting for Rubio, as they know that Marco is ineligible. Rubio as a primary candidate would make it impossible for Republicans to say ANYTHING MORE about Barry’s ineligibility (unless they also opposed Rubio, of course).

    This foolishness needs to be closed down pronto!

    • 48 Voco Indubium July 29, 2011 at 12:33 am

      Agree. I am quoting my own comments from above:

      “However, when Trump was questioned about his mother, the media did not ask the same glaring question about O. As long as the GOP does not bring up the issue, the media, congress and the Judiciary Branch are determined to keep O’s ineligibility under the rug. They may even celebrate Rubio’s nomination as it would further ensure that the GOP is a partner in this fraud for good. “

      The GOP is allowing this fraud for purely political purposes, thinking that the minorities would be mad if the GOP used eligibility and would not vote for them. They forgot that these voters never vote for the GOP anyway. The GOP is digging their own grave. Their misconceptions are astounding and could ensure O’s reelection. Promoting Rubio is self-defeating.

  20. 50 Tiger 7 July 28, 2011 at 6:44 am

    Hobbits arise!!! We have been discovered and now we make our presence known. We have been acknowledged by the WSJ and the Chief RINO—we have arrived!!

  21. 51 A Crazy Old Coot July 28, 2011 at 7:42 am

    I just watched “Wild Bill America” (all of them) and he tells it like it is and takes no lip from anyone. I would like to meet him and shake his hand someday. Thank you for those clips.

    A Dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy!

    • 52 Troy July 28, 2011 at 7:59 am

      Yeah, Coot, I like the guy too….This country needs a whole lot more like him….He has lots of short videos on You Tube and they are all GREAT!

  22. 53 Troy July 28, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Veterans: Now is the Time to Act on Behalf of Your Country

    submitted by Neil Turner

    Where are the veterans in regard to a usurper in the White House?
    (Jul. 28, 2011) — To all Veterans;

    B/Gen. Charles Jones III, USAF, Retired, has asked that this request and sign-up form be disseminated to all fellow Veterans, in all Branches – Served and/or Retired:

    continue reading:

    • 54 sky July 28, 2011 at 11:12 am

      beforeitsnews website money column the wallstreet pentagon papers big,make copies of this

      • 55 heather July 28, 2011 at 4:40 pm

        Sky–thats some article and why aren’t we being told about this scam—it is way past time to get out of the fed and the UN—now is the time.

    • 56 RacerJim July 29, 2011 at 1:18 pm

      Now Is The Time For All Veterans To Act On Behalf of Their Country.

      This Vietnam Veteran signed the Gen’s form early this morning.

  23. 58 Nellie July 28, 2011 at 10:10 am

    A poster keeps making an argument that Rubio’s parents thought of themselves as Americans, as IF that wipes out what they were in reality, non citizens. Always a good idea to deal in the real world. I may consider myself super model worthy – but that is not reality!

    Article II was designed to eliminate the *what ifs* OR *could he not* problems. By this I mean – could Rubio as a president not be affected (even IF subconciously) on policy decisions re Cuba ? Article II seeks to eliminate the *could he not be swayed or influenced* questions. That is what singular allegiance to only ONE country overcomes – the *could he not* questions that might not be in the best interests of the USA and ONLY the USA.

    • 59 attilasdaughter July 28, 2011 at 10:56 am

      I see Article II as the minimum requirement.
      In reality ther can be immigrants who actually have US citizenship, and whos child is born here, but they still feel primarily loyal to their country of origin.
      The fact that many people cannot accept this minimum requirement means to me that they cannot understand the whole concept of allegiance.

  24. 60 cfkerchner July 28, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Another point that has come to the forefront in examining Senator Marco Rubio’s birth citizenship status which he was very reluctant to discuss in the past and is still reluctant to address. U.S. Senator Marco Rubio is also being untruthful in his official bio on his website.

    He says in his official bio, and has also said in his speeches over time, that his parents left Cuba to escape from Fidel Castro’s communist takeover of Cuba. Castro took over Cuba’s government in 1959. Marco Rubio’s parents emigrated to the USA about May 1956. Castro did not even “invade” Cuba until Dec 1956 in his ill fated and disastrous beach landing and small invasion type return to Cuba from his exile in Mexico. Read the history of the Cuban Revolution and compare it to the facts for when Marco Rubio’s parents came to the USA. It does not jive with Marco’s painting his parents as Cuban refugees fleeing Castro’s take over of Cuba. Marco Rubio’s father was a bartender and likely immigrated to Miami FL for economic reasons, i.e., via a work permit, not to escape the communist government of Fidel Castro which Marco Rubio touts all the time. So Marco Rubio is guilty of exaggerating his life narrative to make his parents look like the victims of Castro and he is doing that in the same way some politicians exaggerate their military service in order to gain more sympathy from the electorate, especially the Cuban refugee community in Florida which helped his rise in Florida politics.

    The objections to Marco Rubio are not about politics and political parties. They are the same concerns as those voiced about Obama … constitutional eligibility and truthfulness.

  25. 62 cfkerchner July 28, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Knowing how easy it is to scrub the internet, here is the link to Senator Marco Rubio’s official government website bio. I suggest people make a screen shot or PDF file capture of this immediately in case it gets scrubbed and the Rubio operatives and backers of him for President and VP deny the contents mentioned in my previous post were ever there:

  26. 63 drkate July 28, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Offend this guy, do it often

    • 64 heather July 28, 2011 at 1:50 pm

      those idiots sat there and laughed at this—what planet do they live on. I found nothing funny at all in all of it. It’s pathetic to have this piece of crap as potus.

      (even though it was a comedy skit) still stupid

      so yep–we need to constantly OFFEND him.

  27. 65 cfkerchner July 28, 2011 at 11:19 am

    It is factually clear that Senator Marco Rubio’s parents were NOT U.S. citizens until 1975 when they applied for naturalization, four years after Marco Rubio was born. If the Rubio parents were somehow citizens of the U.S. from the protectorate status of Cuba as some are arguing in this thread, then they would not have had to apply for naturalization in 1975. It is very clear that Marco Rubio’s parents were never U.S. Citizens until they naturalized in 1975. They knew it, U.S. law knew it, and international law knew it. Marco Rubio’s parents were Cuban citizens when they came to the U.S. in circa May 1956, likely looking for better economic opportunities. Since father Rubio was a bartender in Cuba he likely got offered a better job in Miami FL by a hotel owner in FL who also owner hotels and casinos in Cuba. And some of those hotel owners with operations in Cuba and Miami back then had some interesting life stories themselves. 😉

    • 66 drkate July 28, 2011 at 11:25 am

      And I agree. One point of this article to show that the protected status was not about citizenship…and Cuba as a ‘protectorate’ in the same way Guam or Puerto Rico is is not accurate at all.

      Rubio’s parents were in the US as cuban exiles for 17 years before they naturalized. As Mick says above, why did they wait that long? Did they contemplate going back to Cuba? There is no evidence that they became american citizens, or even US Nationals until they naturalized in 1975.

      And Rubio needs to be honest.

  28. 67 cfkerchner July 28, 2011 at 11:27 am

    If any of you don’t already have a copy of Marco Rubio’s father’s application for naturalization for U.S. Citizenship in 1975 you can get it here. Note the date of admission to the U.S. is stated therein. This was years before Castro and his communists took over Cuba.

    If anyone asks, Marco Rubio’s mother applied the same day and got naturalized the same day. Copies of her application are available from the National Archives if someone wishes to see that one too.

  29. 70 Hotlanta Mike July 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm


    • 71 drkate July 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm

      Totally fascinating. Or, a distraction?

      • 72 heather July 28, 2011 at 2:06 pm

        I perfer to call this one another distraction–we are facing this illegal debt ceiling hike and the dog and pony show that comes with it. Also he just signed an EO the other day which I posted on the prior thread — so whatever other little tricks he has up his sleeves now to divert our attention will be coming out soon–i.e like soros selling off his hedge funds as an insider trade-before the new law took affect yesterday.

        Now how is what soros did any different than what bernie madoff did.

  30. 73 Ann July 28, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Personally, I think they’re stretching a bit there. IMO it’s just messy graphics making or laziness. Whoever created this monster was either lazy or in a big hurry to get it done and missed the artifacts. As for the X in TXE, I can’t explain that one.

  31. 74 Starla July 28, 2011 at 1:48 pm



    By Guy Benson



    “Since Nancy Pelosi says her caucus will tally a lock-step ‘no’ vote (a likely, but not assured scenario), Republicans’ margin for error is fairly narrow:

    It appears that the vote will be a nail-biter as a slew of Republican members are firmly opposed to the bill. If all Democrats vote no, Republican leaders will have to minimize defections to about two dozen members. Five centrist Democrats last week voted for the GOP’s “cut, cap and balance” plan, which the Senate quickly rejected. It is unclear whether most of those Democrats will vote for the Speaker’s plan. But one of them, Rep. Heath Shuler (N.C.), said Tuesday he will reject Boehner’s new bill.

    How much wiggle room does the GOP leadership team have? Not much at all, according to the latest whip count:

    House Republicans against/leaning no on Boehner plan (22)
    Todd Akin (Mo.) — Senate hopeful is a no
    Justin Amash (Mich.) — Not shy about breaking from GOP leaders
    Michele Bachmann (Minn.) — Against raising debt ceiling; voted against CCB*
    Paul Broun (Ga.) — Against raising debt ceiling; voted against CCB*
    Jason Chaffetz (Utah) — Possible Senate candidate is a no
    Jeff Duncan (S.C.) Told, a South Caroline media outlet, that he is a no
    Jeff Flake (Ariz.) — Senate hopeful “can’t support the current bill”
    Phil Gingrey (Ga.) — A definite no
    Louie Gohmert (Texas) — Planning to vote no
    Paul Gosar (Ariz.) — Leaning no
    Trey Gowdy (S.C.) — Leaning no
    Tom Graves (Ga.) — Firm no
    Andy Harris (Md.) — Strong proponent of BBA**; Indicated to Baltimore Sun he is a no
    Tim Huelskamp (Kan.) — Firm no
    Jim Jordan (Ohio) — RSC chairman is strongly opposed
    Steve King (Iowa) — Firm no
    Connie Mack (Fla.) — Voted against CCB*; firm no
    Mick Mulvaney (S.C.) — A no vote
    Ron Paul (Texas) — Against raising debt ceiling; voted against CCB*
    Dennis Ross (Fla.) — Leaning no, according to National Journal Daily
    Steve Southerland (Fla.) — Lawmaker told AP he is a no
    Joe Walsh (Ill.) — Said on MSNBC he is a no

    Senate Democrats’ totally reasonable, non-ideological, “adult” reaction to all of this drama: Yawn. Sense of urgency? What sense of urgency? Sure, the economy could crash and our national credit rating could take a bruising hit for the first time in history — but there’s a Democratic president who needs to be re-elected. Priorities, people.

    UPDATE – The Hill confirms that today’s vote will occur in the evening, well after US markets close. Expect a vote after 5pm:

    A vote on Boehner’s plan has been scheduled between 5:45 p.m. and 6:15 p.m., well after the U.S. stock market closes at 4. The decision means lawmakers won’t be casting their votes with plunging or rising markets as a backdrop. In the fall of 2008, the House rejected a financial bailout, and the Dow Jones Industrial lost hundreds of points.

    UPDATE II – A senior GOP House aide tells me leadership is “confident to quite confident” they’ll have the votes when push comes to shove tonight.

    * * * *


    Please Read This & Then PLEASE Pick Up Your Telephone & PLEASE CALL YOUR REPS NOW…VERY URGENT!! From:


    July 28, 2011

    “A Message To All Members Of Tea Party Nation”

    “As we have reported on Tea Party Nation, Speaker Boehner’s new bill, which he wants to substitute for the already passed Cut, Cap and Balance, will cut almost nothing from the debt and will increase the debt ceiling. We can stop this, but we must act now.

    According to reports from Washington, no Democrats in the House will vote for this bill. Boehner needs 217 votes or put another way, if only 24 Republicans vote no, the bill is dead.

    According to the Hill, 22 Republicans are already saying they will vote no or are leaning that way. There are another 11 who are on the fence or are leaning yes. Here is a list of them. If any of them are your Representatives, call their offices immediately and tell them you want them to vote AGAINST the Boehner bill. The House has already passed Cut, Cap and Balance, while the Senate has done nothing. As Rush said yesterday, it is time for us to quit compromising with ourselves!

    Call as soon as you can. If you cannot reach the Washington office, call the local office!

    House Republicans against/leaning no on Boehner plan (22)
Todd Akin (Mo.) — Senate hopeful is a no
Justin Amash (Mich.) — Not shy about breaking from GOP leaders

    Michele Bachmann (Minn.) — Against raising debt ceiling; voted against CCB*

    Paul Broun (Ga.) — Against raising debt ceiling; voted against CCB*

    Jason Chaffetz (Utah) — Possible Senate candidate is a no

    Jeff Duncan (S.C.), a South Caroline media outlet, that he is a no

    Jeff Flake (Ariz.) — Senate hopeful “can’t support the current bill”
Phil Gingrey (Ga.) — A definite no

Louie Gohmert (Texas) — Planning to vote no

    Paul Gosar (Ariz.) — Leaning no

    Trey Gowdy (S.C.) — Leaning no

    Tom Graves (Ga.) — Firm no

    Andy Harris (Md.) — Strong proponent of BBA**; Indicated to Baltimore Sun he is a no

    Tim Huelskamp (Kan.) — Firm no

    Jim Jordan (Ohio) — RSC chairman is strongly opposed

    Steve King (Iowa) — Firm no

    Connie Mack (Fla.) — Voted against CCB*; firm no

    Mick Mulvaney (S.C.) — A no vote

    Ron Paul (Texas) — Against raising debt ceiling; voted against CCB*
Dennis Ross (Fla.) — Leaning no, according to National Journal Daily
Steve Southerland (Fla.) — Lawmaker told AP he is a no

    Joe Walsh (Ill.) — Said on MSNBC he is a no

    House Republicans leaning yes (11)

    Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.)

    Sean Duffy (Wis.)

Blake Farenthold (Texas)

Bob Goodlatte (Va.) — Had been undecided

    Doug Lamborn (Colo.)

Cynthia Lummis (Wyo.) — Went from undecided to leaning yes
 Mike Pence (Ind.) — Sounded like a yes vote in floor speech on Wednesday; gubernatorial candidate pressing for BBA**

    Tom Reed (N.Y.) 

    Bobby Schilling (Ill.)

Austin Scott (Ga.)

Rob Woodall (Ga.) — Went from undecided to leaning yes

    If you get word from your Congressman’s office how they will vote, please update us here, on Tea Party Nation.”

    * * * *

    The Telephone Numbers, Email Addresses, Addresses & Fax Numbers For Our Reps & Senators Are Here:


    • 75 Starla July 28, 2011 at 2:11 pm



      Posted by Erick Erickson

      Thursday, July 28th at 12:49PM EDT


      “The only way to stop it is for enough House Republicans to hold the line today and kill the Boehner plan.”

      Read More Here:

      * * * *

      • 76 Starla July 28, 2011 at 4:05 pm



        * * * *



        * * * *


        By Ann Barnhardt
        July 28, AD 2011 8:50 AM MST


        “The “media” is abuzz this morning with calls for Obama to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling himself. Rep. Clyburn, who is third in line in the House (and who named his daughter ‘Mignon’, as in ‘Filet Mignon’, because he is really, really intelligent and classy like that) is now calling for Obama to unilaterally raise the ceiling. We know from the exposure of “Journolist” that the media and press colludes on these talking points with guidance from the Obama regime. We also know that all of the debt ceiling negotiations are total and complete kabuki. There are no spending cuts – only booking as “cuts” money which the government says it will NOT spend ten years from now. It is all meaningless.

        Guys – ten years ago today the Twin Towers were standing. NOTHING Washington says about “ten years from now” is ever going to happen – and every single one of them know this. And also understand that ObamaCare, if not fully repealed, will cost AT LEAST TEN TIMES what they are saying it will cost. ALL government entitlement programs cost 12-20 times their initial cost estimate. They are saying $2.6 trillion. It will be $26 trillion at minimum – which OBVIOUSLY would collapse the country just by itself. I doubt very seriously that this Republic will exist in its current form ten years from today.

        It appears that Congress is going to do nothing, London will downgrade our credit rating (we are almost certainly going to be downgraded no matter what), interest rates will uptick, Obama will then unilaterally raise the debt ceiling $2.4 trillion in order to “save the country”, which is what Geithner told Congress was going to happen back in May anyway. Due to the additional economic pressure caused by the interest rate uptick, the Federal Reserve will then declare that QE3 is “necessary” and print several trillion more dollars. The Dollar Index will drop below all-time lows at 70.80, and then it will be over.

        And so, what we will have is exactly what the Obama regime originally wanted back in May, except Obama will now have dictatorial, super-constitutional power in addition to $2.4 trillion to hand to the Unions, GE and the Muslim Brotherhood.

        This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.”


        Read More Here: – See the post for July 28, 2011.

        * * * *

        • 77 Starla July 28, 2011 at 4:32 pm

          p.s. The 100% DAILY Serial Career Criminal, & the 100% Foreign & Domestic Enemy Terrorist Usurper Barack Obama will use the TRILLIONS of dollars in the raised debt ceiling to 100% continue to 100% Unconstitutionally & 100% Illegally implement Obamacare, and to financially destroy the USA by design in his planned destruction of the Free Market Capitalist USA superpower by deliberately overspending & deliberately by design bringing the USA into 100% unsustainable financial bankruptcy & into the planned destruction of the USA Sovereignty & the USA Military by transforming the USA into Financial Collapse, Destruction, & Chaos – without firing a shot!!

        • 78 sky July 28, 2011 at 6:21 pm

          I hear a few good groups singing about freedom and liberty are a lot of them backing the domestic enemy? The commie backers.They should be singing about the corrupt fed,imf,UN,wto,and the corrupt banksters.

          • 79 heather July 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm

            sky–that article you posted above–I am going to email that link to all the democrats and talk radio hosts—everyone needs to know what obama did to us–and something tells me–that this debt increase is to counter act that give away!

        • 80 heather July 28, 2011 at 7:45 pm

          Starla–started by bill clinton and being picked up by geithner and clyburn–except they are not reading,or releasing the entire 14th amendment which reads:
          Section 4-
          The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, SHALL NOT BE QUESTIONED. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the US, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

          So when the dems come out with the words of Shall Not Be Questioned, its a total lie–as they are ignoring the remainder of the amendment, which is what they always do.

          Barry already said that he met with his attornies yesterday about this and they advised against even thinking about using this as this would come back to haunt him–so yesterday Barry said he wouldn’t use the 14th but then he lies anyway so just be on the lookout for him trying this scam.

          • 81 drkate July 28, 2011 at 7:51 pm

            that section of the 14th was regarding the civil war and payment for it. Not the current US budget.

            • 82 heather July 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm

              thats the section that geithner took out of his pocket and read on one of the sunday talk shows—shall not question he repeated. if that section refers to the civil war then clinton, clyburn, and geithner are stupid because thats what they were quoting.

              the only other amendment is 16 which reads: the congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

              section 8 refers to paying debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the US and section 9 talks about tax and dutys and section 10 on treaties and credit.

              so they are all wrong. i guess they all need a refresher course on the US Constitution. Makes me think that once again, we the people are too stupid to research and understand anything.

              thanks for correcting me.

              • 83 drkate July 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm

                And of course the 16th is the ‘law that never was’…

              • 84 drkate July 28, 2011 at 8:54 pm

                What idiots they are! They only refer to the Constitution when they want to use it against us, like obutt using ‘religious freedom’ to support the ground zero mask

                • 85 heather July 28, 2011 at 9:10 pm

                  Exactly! Except for barry–the practicing muslim except on sundays when he shows the world that he drags his family to a local dc church as a pretend show that he is Christian.

    • 86 heather July 28, 2011 at 2:13 pm

      This is just another way for boehner to let barry have whatever he wants–he knows he will veto it from the start. All this showmanship is just that–show up and pretend boehner is doing the good deed for the american people all the while he knows barry will just raise it anyway.

      Like I said a dog and pony show – nothing is in favor for the american people–this is for barry and his criminals only.

      I don’t trust any of them with a ten foot pole. They are all liars.

      • 87 heather July 28, 2011 at 2:31 pm

        This trick on barrys part will devastate this country and we will never have another true election for potus——barry is making sure of this.

        • 88 sky July 28, 2011 at 6:12 pm

          ITS TIME TO BE TUFF,AND NEVER LIVE IN FEAR patriotactionnetwork artical patriots pickett america,even though the constitution is important they have messed with it. What You Need To Read & Spread IS The Federalist PAPERS,which is on this site right column

    • 89 sky July 28, 2011 at 3:58 pm

      there was a 12.3 trillion robbery on the taxpayers, Big Banks from around the world.This is begger than the pentagon pappers. the wallstreet pentagon papers,beforeitsnews website.congress didnt even know.

      • 90 heather July 28, 2011 at 7:29 pm

        yes-sky all illegal—congress had no knowledge and neither did we. we just had another rape of our financial system. and it is going hand in hand with the increase barry wants………..tells me he wants to replace what he gave away before anyone finds out.

  32. 91 heather July 28, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    smart a$$ barry is letting the dems and repubs take the fall so he comes up clean–how stupid does he think we the people are.

  33. 92 no-nonsense-nancy July 28, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    They have wanted a mega uprise from the American people. That’s why they are doing this. To get us to riot over it. We need to calmly remove them all, shut DC down and start new. I have said that in order for the whole country to act people have to hurting in their pocketbooks more than they have been up untill now. Maybe this is the now.

    • 93 drkate July 28, 2011 at 7:14 pm

      Agreed Nancy. Maybe its the Birther Summit…what if we all just stayed? If we can build the organization, it could happen sooner rather than later.

      • 94 sky July 28, 2011 at 7:33 pm

        saw on weasle zippers one of irans revolutionary guards next president of opec

        • 95 heather July 29, 2011 at 6:18 am

          seems to me that all is forgiven in the arab world now that barry has bowed his life away—whatever happened to GWB invasion of the arab world for the 911 crime—you know the ones we are still fighting in iraq and afganastan–he is a disgrace to all of us and more.

  34. 96 heather July 28, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Dr Kate—my question to you–I can’t seem to get this NBC issue through my husbands thick head—so I am asking you.

    His grandparents were not born in the US–but his parents were, so are his parents NBCs?

    My grandfather was born in Germany – and he came here when he was 14 and 5 yrs later became a naturalized citizen and my grandmother was born here and both of my parents were born here making me a NBC but where do the grandparents fall?

    • 97 drkate July 28, 2011 at 7:49 pm

      Your grandparents came to US and naturalized. so they are US Citizens. Your father was an NBC if his parents were naturalized US citizens at the time of his birth. you are a NBC.

      When did his grandparents naturalize? They were born in another country and came to US and naturalized, i.e.,became US citizens. His parents are NBCs if their parents were US citizens at his birth. If the grandparents naturalized after his birth he is an American citizen but not a natural born citizen. Your husband is a natural born citizen.

      Think about Jindal. His kids are natural born citizens but he is not

  35. 99 uguesswhat July 28, 2011 at 8:00 pm



    • 100 heather July 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm

      sure its all the money that he pillage from us! and his bribery money. he needs to return that cash back to us–he always says he needs to pay his fair share!!! its time barry to pay up!

    • 101 heather July 28, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      Wow–how true is that article I wonder….can’t impeach someone who is not legally the potus but we can arrest him and charge him with a ton of crimes.

    • 102 Quantum Leap July 28, 2011 at 9:26 pm

      too juicy not to post excerpts:

      Obama’s only goal is to fatten his bank accounts at the expense of the US citizens, US Constitution and America. From a forensic psychology standpoint, Obama feels entitled by his actions and is using the Office of the President to destroy America while taking billions of dollars out of the United States for his personal gain.

      With impeachment proceedings on the horizon, could criminal charges for tax evasion be far behind?

      We have spoken to some of his closest confidants and staffers within his inner circle. They are all very concerned about his overall mental stability. His own staff is attempting to move away from him because they don’t want to be involved with his rapidly enlarging personal ego, the power that he wields as the President and his deteriorating capacity to separate his personal vengeance towards his political enemies from the duties of the Office of the President. With the upcoming election next year, they want to distance themselves from his disastrously failing Administration as soon as possible

      Obama knows his days are seriously numbered and the House of Representatives is speeding towards impeachment (they have the required votes already in hand) after his television folly this week regarding the Debt Ceiling.

      What we have also been told is that ALL Obama cares about, if he is going to be impeached, is his bank account. His bank account? Really?

      • 103 Quantum Leap July 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm

        Our statement to the United States House of Representatives:

        Now is the exact time for the House to complete the impeachment process to remove Obama from office. He is a disgrace to the Office of the Presidency, the United States of America and as our representative to the World community. It is unfortunate that the world did not know that Obama sold himself to the dark-side long ago, with a mission to CHANGE America, by sheer and utter destruction.

      • 104 Quantum Leap July 28, 2011 at 9:33 pm

        Let’s repeat this

        Obama knows his days are seriously numbered and the House of Representatives is speeding towards impeachment (they have the required votes already in hand) after his television folly this week regarding the Debt Ceiling.

        What we have also been told is that ALL Obama cares about, if he is going to be impeached, is his bank account. His bank account? Really?

  36. 107 Troy July 28, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    The birth certificate please! Subpoena to be delivered
    Attorney, doc experts to show up at Hawaii Department of Health with court document
    Posted: July 28, 2011
    11:15 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2011 WND

    Computer scanning expert Doug Vogt and typesetting expert Paul Irey say they will accompany attorney Orly Taitz when she presents to the Hawaii Department of Health a subpoena that should allow her to examine Barack Obama’s original 1961 typewritten birth certificate.

    Vogt and Irey both told WND they are making travel plans to join Taitz in Honolulu when she goes to the state agency at 10 a.m. on Tuesday, Aug. 8, to present the subpoena in person.

    “We will plan to hold a press conference late in the day of Aug. 8,” Vogt said, “and if the document we see varies from the birth certificate documents the White House released, we plan to file criminal charges in Hawaii immediately.”

    Get the New York Times best-seller “Where’s the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to be President,” by Jerome Corsi.

    Vogt shared with WND a copy of a letter he has written to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, putting Louie on notice regarding the reasons he believes the birth certificate released by the White House is fraudulent.

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: The birth certificate please! Subpoena to be delivered

  37. 108 Troy July 28, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Broadcasting for the next three nights!
    Tonight on Walls In Our Minds

    Steve Elswick & Terry Brady
    The Vice President and Director of TESLA TECH
    You just never know who might call in with these guys. Three weeks ago, Paul Pantone, past political prisoner and inventor of the GEET Reactor called in. GEET = Global Environmental Energy Technology

    On July 28th, Walls In Our Minds will be broadcasting from the
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    The most exciting place to be in Colorado Springs during 1899 was Tesla’s laboratory. There, Tesla demonstrated the wireless transmission of power in 1899. Over the next fifty years, Tesla failed in his attempts to bring power to the people. However, in articles and letters to various editors Tesla formed a clear, coherent, and articulate visualization of his concept of power, and how he could move immense amounts of currents through the earth with his Magnifying Transmitter. In the first session of the upcoming conference, there will be a demo and energy presentation. Michael Leas will explain his research into Nikola Tesla’s work. Helping to form a basic understanding of these energy concepts, Michael will demonstrate his wireless energy arrangement. His wireless energy system will show the type of power used by Nikola Tesla in his dramatic energy displays, only on a much smaller scale. This will help explain the importance of these energy principles in our modern society. It is imperative that we, like Tesla did over 100 years ago, begin the process of laying out a foundation for future development of our society. This presentation shows that Tesla technology is relevant to resolving many of today’s problems (pollution, energy shortages, cancer, etc) but will assist our psychic and spiritual growth as well.

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  38. 109 heather July 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    ot—just to let everyone know about this heat dome hanging over most of us—today makes 29 straight days of 103+ degrees with 119 heat index in my state. Our governor today called a state of emergency that there are only 3 counties that haven’t lost our entire crops. Thanks to haarp and chemtrails we are burning everything up. Oh and btw–no rain either. I feel like I live in the desert.

  39. 110 Quantum Leap July 28, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Here comes the Jimmy Obama and Barack Carter show. 2012

  40. 111 Quantum Leap July 28, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Media reports indicated pResident had walked out of meeting with Republicans. That is incorrect. It was the meeting with his own Democrats that resulted in President Obama leaving the room

    Read more:

  41. 112 Quantum Leap July 28, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Obama is incapable of making a decision. Anyone who tries to argue against that fact is simply avoiding the truth. We’ve had two years to prove that, right? The man cannot decide on anything himself. He waits to be told what to think. That is how he functions, if you can call it that. He’s a barely functioning president, and that is a big reason why the situation is so dangerous. His primary source of direction is Valerie Jarrett, who has no real experience with this kind of leadership. She manipulates. She schemes. She’s a product of the most radicalized section of Chicago

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    • 113 heather July 29, 2011 at 6:10 am

      QL-and today he is expected to make a speech on cars that will get 50-60 miles per gallon of gas in the next few yrs…..and you say — oh wow thats fantastic, my gas bill will go down with a car like that! sure it will, the car will be over priced, the price of gas will sky rocket and i am sure your car insurance will sky rocket as well!

      After all he did PROMISE to raise our electricity rates and gas rates – so heres another scheme for big govt–and since he owns the car companys, we are screwed!

  42. 115 SirLurksAlot July 29, 2011 at 5:57 am

    I have a question. Suppose a man and woman, married, and from the great institution of America, both citizens, and she was with child. The couple decided to take a trip to Washington DC before having to settle in at being a parent to their soon to be child. As they were at the Lincoln Memorial, mother had an uh oh moment, as in this baby is here. The question is this: All things being equal, ie; age and residence, can this person be president of the United States?

    • 116 Quantum Leap July 29, 2011 at 9:41 am

      DUH? What kind of question is that? The answer is obvious. 2 parent citizens have a child on American soil what does that make the child???????? American citizen! Of course they can be president if people will vote for them.

    • 119 drkate July 29, 2011 at 10:04 am

      Yes, the parents are Americans, the child is born on US soil, so the child is a natural born citizen, eligible for President

      • 120 Quantum Leap July 29, 2011 at 10:11 am

        drkate is more patient than I am with the question as it seemed a condescending question to me and full of word salad designed to see if we even know the answer.

        • 121 SirLurksAlot July 29, 2011 at 11:02 am

          Are you absolutely certain that Washington DC is US soil? I didn’t pose the question so that I could look like a dummy. I posed the question to a very bright lady the other day and before I had finished the question she shot back a resounding “NO”. So the question was meant to ask if WADC is US Soil. I am sorry if I offended anyone.

          • 122 drkate July 29, 2011 at 11:04 am

            Yes, DC is US soil. See the Act of 1871. IN fact one could argue that the DC area is the only area over which the federal government and judiciary has control.

          • 123 drkate July 29, 2011 at 11:05 am

            No offense, SirLurksalot. This is a good question, I admit I didn’t see the DC part of it clearly! 😀

  43. 124 PharmD July 29, 2011 at 6:02 am

    From a legal perspective, I believe it is important to discuss the citizen status of parents and the birth location, but I believe that in actuality, the blood that runs through your veins is rather moot. Look at all of the people born today of American parents in America that have disdain for America. Legally, they are natural born citizens and meet all qualifications for Article II. One’s blood does not give him or her allegiance to a country. It is a sad thing. I have a neighbor whose son has more allegiance to Japan than to America despite the fact that he comes from a line of veterans that goes all the way back to the Revolutionary War.
    No, if you want true allegiance to the United States, the youth of today show that you’re going to have to dig deeper than that.

  44. 126 MaryS July 29, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Why are we surprised at this?? Mr. Rubio is the smartest most articulate man to hold a position in the US Senate in a very long time, so it isn’t surprising that the Left wing would go after him. So then, why aren’t these same people asking these same questions of our current president??? I would venture to guess that Mr. Rubio is 10 times more qualified to hold that office than the current occupant. Their “transparency” is so obvious that it isn’t even a question about their gangster intentions toward the U.S.

    • 127 drkate July 29, 2011 at 10:06 am

      Its not the left wing after Rubio, its the Constitutionalists aka Birthers who want to make sure all candidates are constitutionally qualified. The standard is natural born citizen. No matter how much Rubio is qualified and experienced, he simply does not meet the cut of a natural born citizen. He was born with dual citizenship, which is also a problem.

      I like Rubio, but I will be furious if the republicans ignore the constitution and put him in there.

      • 128 heather July 29, 2011 at 1:24 pm

        absolutely Dr Kate–after what you just wrote–I would not vote for him and believe me I would call every congressman and senator and scream his dual citizenship across the country.

  45. 129 Quantum Leap July 29, 2011 at 10:03 am

    News of the day recap:

    World leaders have been stunned by the dysfunction in Washington that has led the United States to the brink of default

    ya think?

    Obama’s speech to the nation Monday night was highly disturbing. Because read carefully, it reveals a president wildly divorced from the fundamental realities of the nation he is supposed to be leading.


    Obama actually told America on national television that it is a nation “with a system in which the deck seems stacked against middle class Americans in favor of the wealthiest few.” It is incomprehensible how a man serving as president of these United States could make such a fundamentally false assertion about his own country.

    It’s obviously not his country but..oh well. See what happens when you are president BUT were born in another country and raised there for 10 formative years?

    Obama’s wildly erroneous statement state of the union address indicates he is not living in the real world, which is dangerous for America.

    Well yeah.

    Obama tax policies so heavily skewed against the nation’s small businesses, job creators and investors are central reasons why there has been no recovery from the last recession, why working people can’t get jobs, why their wages are falling in real terms, why unemployment is still rising 3.5 years after the last recession started, why a record number of Americans are in poverty. As a consequence, in reality, it is Obama’s anti-market economic policies that are actually in effect stacked heavily against the middle class, working people and the poor..

    Valerie is running the show and she is anti-business, anti entrepreneur by her own admission.

    The pResident further proclaimed Monday night that “most Americans don’t understand how we can ask a senior citizen to pay more for her Medicare benefits before we ask corporate jet owners and oil companies to give up tax breaks that other companies don’t get.” But his ObamaCare law already more than asks seniors to pay more for their Medicare benefits. It requires them to pay 40% to 200% more if they, in the pResident’s infinite wisdom, earn too much, defined as over $85,000 a year this time.

    This MoFo gotta go.

  46. 130 Quantum Leap July 29, 2011 at 10:07 am

    How much money (billions) did he funnel into Hondouras off shore accounts?
    He’s robbing us blind. But don’t question him about cause he’s blaaaack and will cry racist….. F HIm. We don’t give a crap what color he is. He’s the biggest crook this country ahs ever seen.

    • 143 Quantum Leap July 29, 2011 at 2:07 pm

      The list of institutions that received the most money from the Federal Reserve
      can be found on page 131 of the GAO Audit and are as follows..
      Citigroup: $2.5 trillion ($2,500,000,000,000)
      Morgan Stanley: $2.04 trillion ($2,040,000,000,000)
      Merrill Lynch: $1.949 trillion ($1,949,000,000,000)
      Bank of America: $1.344 trillion ($1,344,000,000,000)
      Barclays PLC (United Kingdom): $868 billion ($868,000,000,000)
      Bear Sterns: $853 billion ($853,000,000,000)
      Goldman Sachs: $814 billion ($814,000,000,000)
      Royal Bank of Scotland (UK): $541 billion ($541,000,000,000)
      JP Morgan Chase: $391 billion ($391,000,000,000)
      Deutsche Bank (Germany): $354 billion ($354,000,000,000)
      UBS (Switzerland): $287 billion ($287,000,000,000)
      Credit Suisse (Switzerland): $262 billion ($262,000,000,000)
      Lehman Brothers: $183 billion ($183,000,000,000)
      Bank of Scotland (United Kingdom): $181 billion ($181,000,000,000)
      BNP Paribas (France): $175 billion ($175,000,000,000)

      Hey look how many cuts we could have had to lower the deficits!

      • 144 sky July 29, 2011 at 2:53 pm

        heard about it is the biggest robbery in the world 12.3 trillion,on the taxpayers,beforeitsnews,let these big banks pay our debt make this go viral now,make flyers,signs,Its time for big business to get out of these banks.

  47. 148 Troy July 29, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Sounds, to me, like he is lying and covering up some important details.

  48. 150 Starla July 29, 2011 at 2:07 pm


    By Ann Barnhardt
    July 22, AD 2011 5:40 PM MST


    “Remember the video of the captured Zeta narco terrorist I posted a couple of weeks ago in which he claimed to get weaponry directly from the U.S. government? Yep. He wasn’t kidding.


    -anti-aircraft weapons
    -hand grenades
    -grenade launchers
    -assault rifles
    -night-vision goggles
    -body armor

    Sold to the Zetas by the Obama State Department with the cooperation of the CIA, and once sold to Hizbullah, coming to a suburban Christian church near you.

    I’m telling you, our government has already been overthrown. The whole mess is beyond repair. You can’t fire two or three guys and think that is going to make any difference whatsoever. Hillary Clinton should only ever see her grandchildren five minutes at a time through a bulletproof plexiglass partition in Florence, CO.”

    Read More Here:

    * * * *


    “It’s a stunning allegation that makes the other gunrunning scandals look like child’s play.”

    By Bob Owens
    July 22, 2011


    “Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obamaguns to the violent Zetas cartel through the administration is running direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

    Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

    Robert “Tosh” Plumlee, a former CIA contract pilot, told the Times he supported Jordan’s allegations, adding that the Zetas have reportedly bought property in the Columbus, N.M., border region to stash weapons and other contraband.

    “From the intel, it appears that a company was set up in Mexico to purchase weapons through the U.S. Direct Commercial Sales Program, and that the company may have had a direct link to the Zetas.”

    The U.S. Direct Commercial Sales program is run from the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. It regulates and licenses private U.S. companies’ overseas sales of weapons and other defense materials, defense services, and military training. This does not include the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program, which authorized sales to foreign governments.”

    Read More Here:

    * * * *

  49. 152 Hotlanta Mike July 29, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Tweeter Obama And Ask Him For His Birth Certificate

  50. 154 no-nonsense-nancy July 29, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    The House voted for Boehnor’s policy. The repubs caved. Of course, Reid already said it is already dead.

  51. 157 no-nonsense-nancy July 29, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    So, when is it that we’re oin to expell the entire congress? Forming an organization next spring may be a good idea, Kate. and I’m for staying. I may buy a little pop-up camper.

  52. 161 Troy July 29, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Serving us up on a silver platter.
    Pentagon, CIA open targets for crippling attack?
    Country’s electrical grids, power plants may also be unprotected
    Posted: July 29, 2011
    11:30 pm Eastern

    By Aaron Klein
    © 2011 WND

    Is the U.S. government, including the CIA and Pentagon, an open target for a crippling cyber-attack?

    Are the country’s major industries, such as electrical grids and nuclear facilities, properly protected for the looming, major threat of cyber terrorism?

    There are developments indicating the Obama administration has been slow to shore up critical infrastructure, which may be ripe for attack in a new age of cyber warfare.

    Just last week, U.S. cyber security chief Randy Vickers resigned following a string of cyber attacks on the websites of various U.S. government agencies.

    Get “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That’s Conspiring to Islamize America,” autographed, from WND’s Superstore.

    Earlier this month it was reported 24,000 Defense Department files were lifted from the Pentagon in a hack attack by what was believed to be a foreign group.

    Also, recent months witnessed several high-profile hacker attacks against the Pentagon and the public websites of the CIA, U.S. Senate and other agencies.

    Vickers abrupt departure was the second high-profile resignation from the Department of Homeland Security’s cyber security division in the past few months. Philip Reitinger, the top cyber official for the department, resigned in May.

    (Story continues below)

    Read more: Pentagon, CIA open targets for crippling attack?

    • 162 heather July 29, 2011 at 8:51 pm

      oh–here we go–barry promised this and promised he would raise our electric bills sky high—so now we have this 100+ degree weather hanging over us , frying everything, and now they start this bs.

      so these are the things he has been doing behind closed doors while everything is about the debt ceiling. nothing but major distractions–dogs and ponys show daily!

      more ways to control us–more tyranny……….

      i dont believe anything they say–they are out of control and hell bent on terrorizing us. bin ladens gone from memories now, so this is the new terrorism.

  53. 163 no-nonsense-nancy July 29, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    I say to Harry Belafonte, why didn’t you ask him before you voted for him, stupid?

    Whoever put up that web site, Hillary and me, I say, Hillary needs be put in jail along side the usurper!

    • 164 heather July 29, 2011 at 8:52 pm

      NNN—DITTO she is as much to blame as barry–she is right there with him dont let her kid you–she is evil.

    • 165 RacerJim July 30, 2011 at 10:06 am

      n-n-n: Ditto what you said, plus…

      I say to Harry Belafonte, why don’t you host a TV special on BET demanding he be arrested, tried, convicted and appropriately punished for Treason, Bribery and other High Crimes and Misdemeanors?

  54. 166 attilasdaughter July 29, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    I totally agree with Peggy Noonan 🙂

    The secret of Mr. Obama is that he isn’t really very good at politics, and he isn’t good at politics because he doesn’t really get people. The other day a Republican political veteran forwarded me a hiring notice from the Obama 2012 campaign. It read like politics as done by Martians. The “Analytics Department” is looking for “predictive Modeling/Data Mining” specialists to join the campaign’s “multi-disciplinary team of statisticians,” which will use “predictive modeling” to anticipate the behavior of the electorate. “We will analyze millions of interactions a day, learning from terabytes of historical data, running thousands of experiments, to inform campaign strategy and critical decisions.”

    This wasn’t the passionate, take-no-prisoners Clinton War Room of ’92, it was high-tech and bloodless. Is that what politics is now? Or does the Obama re-election effort reflect the candidate and his flaws?

  55. 167 uguesswhat July 29, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Ditto – Hillary belongs in jail along with the usurper. It looks to me that
    Boehner is trying to help the usurper get what he wants to continue his
    spending and taxing!! I don’t trust Boehner!! He needs to be
    eliminated in 2012 too.

  56. 171 Quantum Leap July 29, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Over the last 3 years the Rothschild Federal Reserve vermin secretly embezzled 16 TRILLION dollars from the American People and gave it to their criminal globalist banker friends all over the planet.


    Yep, according to the United States Government Accountability Office, or the GAO, more than 3 trillion went to Rothschild friends in Europe, Brazil, Mexico, South Korea, and Canada.

    And with no banker left behind in this sea of stolen cash, the Rothschild’s loyal friends at JP Morgan Chase, who administered the secret bailouts, wet their beaks to the tune of 500 BILLIONS. Citigroup nearly drown in the flood of 2.5 TRILLIONS that was poured out on them alone. Bank of America and Morgan Stanley received TRILLIONS while British Barclays PLC took a TRILLION.

  57. 172 Papoose July 30, 2011 at 5:18 am

    a little truth for a change:

    orchestrated. contrived. cover up. manufactured crisis.

  58. 174 stock July 30, 2011 at 7:18 am

    If the GAO is aware of these giveaways-and no one has raised a freakin peep about it-thats something else we have to get on our representatives about-we need to make this part or our local agendas-all this corruption has got to be stopped-is there a GAO report on this somewhere-that can be cited as a reference? We need to know specifically-what was done (money given to who) (why) and by (whom) so that we may demand an investigation which would be targeted to a specific wrongful action by a specific person to begin to breakup this form of activity.

    And as to Sessions-he is swimmin up Niagra Falls-hopefully he’ll get his sorry Rino butt washed away-soon-along with Boehner-its like with Obama I have to turn the TV off every time I see his miserable cryin puss now too. Im going to be left only watching Spongebob.

  59. 175 no-nonsense-nancy July 30, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Stock, I gave up tee vee two years ago altogether because I can’t even stand Spongebob!

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