On Constitutional Authority

©2011 drkate

Building the 2nd American Republic

If we wish to think seriously about government there are certain basic questions we must ask. For example, we need to figure out how legitimate governments are established, or to put it in slightly different terms, we have to ask, “What is the foundation of legitimate political authority?” ~ Center for Civic Education

More than one hundred years before the Founders developed the Constitution for the united States, philosopher John Locke articulated the foundation for a government of, by and for the people.  By looking at the problem from the vantage of viewing what life  would be like without government, Locke called man in this state as being in a state of nature,

and argued that it “has a law of nature to govern it which obliges everyone, and reason, which is that law, teaches all mankind who will but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions….”

This state antedates any form of government, yet guides the purpose of government and the extent of its political authority. Fundamentally, it also provides the reason why a people would leave such a state of nature to form a government.

Locke held that the inalienable rights of individuals form the basis of all rightful governments. According to him, individuals possess these rights simply by virtue of their humanity… The authority exercised by governments is exercised on the basis of the consent of the governed and they consent to the exercise of that authority in order to acquire security for their natural rights to life, liberty and estate.

The rest is our history, you know. The thirteen independent sovereign states joined together to create our government whose purpose is to secure our natural rights. The law that empowered that government was the Constitution. They chose liberty and formed a government to secure it.

Government exists only with the consent of the governed and pursuant only to government officials’ lawful exercise of  their duties under the Constitution and their oath of office:

“I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” (not ‘so help me Allah‘…)

In the context of the original design and foundation of the Constitution, every single act, decision, expenditure of funds, declaration of war, and economic policy by the Obama administration, the Federal Reserve, and the  111th and 112th Congress is  null and void. Obama is ineligible and the Congress has abrogated its responsibilities.

The only Constitutional authority held lawfully in the United States today is held by We the People in and of the States. 

We have not exercised our Constitutional authority in more than fifty years. We instead continue to talk about it while our nation burns to the ground and the world is allied against America.  We blame ourselves, each other, Obama, the Congress, the republicans, the democrats, our lack of faith, the system.  More divisions emerge for us to describe, counter, understand, ignore, or cast into intrigue. Just enough information to keep from taking action.

Well, the darkest hour has arrived, and the line in the sand is bright for all to see.  It will be even a longer time before the light of day if we don’t start taking action now.

We are all ‘Birthers’ now.

202 Responses to “On Constitutional Authority”

  1. 1 drkate August 2, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    I have been absolutely panicked with the situation we are in, and then I had to calm down…going back to basics. The reality is these people have no authority over us except that which we give them. Well I am tired of that, they get no quarter from me at all.

    With h/t to Paula, I included the video below in the post above…it is lengthy, but reviewing it all gives you a good idea of sovereignty and where it came from…thus our power now. We have lost much in civic curricula since the 1950s. The age group targeted to lose America are those now in their 50’s-70’s. In our prime…counting on us to forget. It is also now on that generation to revive the American Republic…or get out of the way.


    • 3 Jan August 2, 2011 at 11:14 pm

      Dr. K, I am on the Board for Lake Co. Republicans and I just sent the board a request to follow what Clayton County is doing.
      I’ll let you know what happens.

    • 4 Paula August 4, 2011 at 6:00 pm

      Awesome. Thank you to Mr. Carl Swensson.

    • 5 JJ August 4, 2011 at 8:33 pm

      When I read this, I instantly shared with my contacts ….what a great county with great patriots.
      Hoping the idea spreads. Georgia??

  2. 6 Quantum Leap August 2, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    I wrote my senator this morning, who voted for the super congress.

    Meet the new super congress who has taken the responsibility for all “outgo” from the house and gave it to a few……..you know why. There is no monitoring of how these funds will be spent. What’s his name caved..that young congressman.what’s his name.he passed the buck. OMG He got paid off with a bribe? Dems say Pubs won and pubs say Dems won…..but they both won. What creeps

    Now that Congress has agreed on a general framework to raise the debt ceiling, party leaders will establish a bipartisan committee of lawmakers from both chambers to hash out the finer details.

    Under the new law, the federal government will cap spending levels by about $1 trillion over a ten-year period and delegate the responsibility of slashing another $1-$2 trillion to a powerful 12-member committee.
    No, it’s not the Gang of Six (times two). This time it’s called the “Super Congress.”

    The committee of six Republicans and six Democrats, which will do most of its work behind closed doors, will have until Nov. 23 to develop a plan to reduce the budget deficit that must pass through both Houses of Congress before Christmas.

    Once they come up with a plan that seven members agree to, it will go to both chambers and can pass with just a simple majority. No filibustering, and no amending allowed.

    If, however, they fail to find agreement, there’s a back-up plan: Under the new law, Congress has set a series of “triggers,” which will automatically reduce spending levels across the board if the group cannot get the job done. If the negotiations fall through, billions in cuts to both discretionary spending and the defense budget will automatically kick in, giving neither party a say about the details.

    The negotiations, of course, are not expected to be easy. Democrats are demanding that tax increases be included in the committee’s plan, a proposal Republicans still refuse to consider.

    “Everything is on the table for that committee,” said White House Press Secretary Jay Carney. “Entitlement reform and tax reform. And let’s be clear, the president thinks that the biggest possible overall accomplishment, in terms of deficit reduction, is a desirable goal, as long as it’s balanced.”

    For conservative Republicans and liberal Democrats alike, there remains much skepticism about the group’s ability to find a sound solution.

    On the right, the worry remains that Democrats will successfully convince one Republican to join them in raising taxes.

    “The framework of ‘triggers’ and a new 12-member House-Senate committee opens the door to dangerous national security cuts and raises the possibility that six Democrats and one misguided Republican could rush tax increases to the House and Senate floors,” said Ohio Republican Rep. Jim Jordan, chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee.

    The left has similar concerns, as they brace for even more cuts to programs that aid the poor without raising taxes on the wealthy.

    And who will sit on this all-powerful committee? The details of the Super Congress’ membership are still pending. Since this small group will likely determine the details of federal government’s budget for the next ten years, each opening will no doubt become a coveted post


    • 7 heather August 3, 2011 at 7:46 am

      QL-this bill is disasterous for everyone but especially age 50+ and our military. I heard our Senator ( Inholfe ) this am say that he and Tom Coburn did not vote for this as this bill continues spending way into the future with no stopping AND it gives our military directions by others than the US. This means NATO and the UN will have jurisdiction over our military.

      It also states that if for any reason the 1.5 billion isn’t met than this “super power” has the power to cut spending for the military and medicare–which of course is just what they are trying to do since those 2 are the most expensive.

      Had they left their freakn hands off SS/Medicare it wouldn’t be broke–but those greedy bastards stole our money and healthcare and now they plan on death panels for all of us.

      The ‘tea party’ republicans that we elected to stop this maddness SOLD us out and they know it. And now they are on their 6 wk vaca — well I hope they experience the heat they are blasting me with – and I hope a lot more for these creeps and it isn’t nice.

    • 8 Jan August 3, 2011 at 11:19 am

      Since Congress/Senate are on vacation until Sept. and this committee that is not yet picked (ha) will have to write a program (suppose it might already be written?) and give results by November 23rd.

      Who is “picking” this committee?
      Who is writing the rules?
      and yes, obat is the 13th member.
      Welcome to the Communist States of America

  3. 12 Quantum Leap August 2, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Once they come up with a plan that seven members agree to

    Who is the seventh member out of the super 6? Uhbama. Holy crap.

  4. 15 Troy August 3, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Experts say Obama certificate not scan of original document
    2 new reports cast further doubt on image White House released
    Posted: August 02, 2011
    8:10 pm Eastern

    By Jerome R. Corsi
    © 2011 WND

    Detailed technical analysis of the PDF file the White House released April 27 indicates it is not a scan of the original document, as claimed by the White House, but instead is the final form of an electronic file used to forge the birth certificate on Adobe software, according to reports by experts.

    Failure to demonstrate how a simple computer scan can produce the effects observed in the Obama birth certificate PDF lends support to arguments that the Obama birth certificate is a forgery, the experts contend.

    OBOTs jump to defend Obama birth certificate

    The radical Obama supporters known as OBOTs have repeatedly asserted that experts cited by WND have ignored evidence that the effects observed in the White House-released PDF can be explained by utilizing various tools, such as running Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software and by optimizing the PDF.

    Jerome Corsi’s book, “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” is available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

    Frank Arduini, an OBOT who works at CareFusion and frequently posts argumentative pro-Obama comments on WND forums, made the charge in a recent WND-published article, as seen in Exhibit 1.

    Exhibit 1: OBOT poster accuses WND of ignoring evidence

    Arduini’s LinkedIn.com profile lists him as an IT Business Partner at the health industries company CareFusion, headquartered in San Diego.

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Experts say Obama certificate not scan of original document http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=329221#ixzz1TwpWwkAl

  5. 16 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 1:58 am

    Isnt it ironic that the bill gets passed on the exact anniversary of the day , august 2nd, that hitler became fuerer of germany. Do you believe in coincidences?

    The dirty dozen plus one.

    How do we stop this?

    • 17 RacerJim August 3, 2011 at 7:32 am

      “We the people…” stop this by assembling en masse in Washington DC to take our country back via whatever means necessary.

    • 18 heather August 3, 2011 at 8:12 am

      Judge Napolitano from foxnews said this is unconstitutional as we all know it is–the constitution clearly states that only CONGRESS has this power and now barry has taken this power away from the congress so what will be their jobs?

      Congress is aware of this as they are speaking out as of last night, so someone better open their mouth big and wide and spit this illegal crap out as just that–against the law. If they don’t they are now part of the biggest coup in our history as this totally and completely changes our 2nd amendment rights and eliminates our constitutional freedoms. We are in big trouble here and we need to act as a whole country — blacks, whites, hispanics, asians, american indians – this means all of us. We must overthrow this communistic organization.

      Here’s just another reason barry is keeping our military out of the country.

      • 19 heather August 3, 2011 at 8:14 am

        MLK marched on DC for just and equal freedoms–and not just for the black race but for all people—we need a new MLK to march with us.

  6. 20 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 1:59 am

    Mark your calanders. This is the number of the beast. The GANG of 6. + The Super Congress. 6+6…

    666 was drawn on his victory night by his home state of Illinois. He does go by the code name “LAWLESS ONE” and “renegade” the name of his limo is “THE BEAST”

    • 24 heather August 3, 2011 at 9:25 am

      sure seems that Ron Paul is the only one calling a spade a spade–is he the only honest one in congress? what about Bachmann? Where the heck does she stand? And paul ryan, eric cantor, john boehner? were they bought off.

  7. 27 heather August 3, 2011 at 7:55 am

    And another thing (while I am on the war path) This vote included Gabbie Giffords and she voted Yes with her party. Now don’t get me wrong–I am glad she is alive and active, but her drs have said she will never mentally be the same again–and her life will never be the same. So my suggestion is she should be made to retire not re-run. When these politicians are injured, or in Ted Kennedys case are medically incapacitated they should retire–they are in no form, physical or mentally to do their job.

    • 28 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 1:15 pm

      Yes they are. They simply have to do what they are told. A monkey is capable of that. You can train a dog to do as it is told, why not a politician, especially one that has become impaired. They all seem impaired to me. Once you have the mark of the beast, you are permanently impaired.

  8. 30 no-nonsense-nancy August 3, 2011 at 9:42 am

    I agree, Heather. I was at my dauhter’s house the other evening and so was watching rare news on the tee vee. I saw the pictures of her. They were exploiting her by taking her there. They probably told her to raise her hand at the right time to vote on the bill. My dauhter thought it was great that she could go there and vote. I said, she is brain damaged and doesn’t know what is going on. Did you notice how she could only stand for about 30 seconds and had to sit back down? They are despicable, including her husband for going along with it.

    • 31 heather August 3, 2011 at 10:41 am

      NNN–yes I noticed it and she cannot speak our loud–she nods her head for yes and no and mouths the words–thank you. One can look at her and see she is not the same or ever will be.

      Yes it is a shame about her, but the handwritting on the wall shows her life from here on out and she should retire.

      Of course she could only stand that length of time—-she is still in PT and should never have been allowed to travel that distance. What’s wrong with that husband of hers–oh he must be a lib too–he is flaunting her and this is wrong.

      • 32 drkate August 3, 2011 at 10:48 am

        The use of Giffords was a diversion for sure…right in the middle of that discussion he pulls her out, reminding everyone what can happen if they go against Obama. Her staff is now running the show. Brewer should appoint someone in her place.

        She was used, plain and simple. She should retire NOW and be replaced, and should not be allowed to run on the sympathy vote. her husband will try to run in her place using the same.

        Nobody here in AZ liked the picture of her on the front page…we are all sick about it. Leave the woman alone!

        • 33 Katie August 3, 2011 at 1:38 pm

          Anyone hear from Sen. Tim Johnson from SD lately? He was supposed to have had a debilitating stroke several years ago, and I believe is still in office with the rest of the demented ones.

  9. 34 Jeremy1Esq August 3, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Those in power will push for all the power they can get and it will only stop when a certain amount of people decide they can no longer tolerate it and react with violence. The USA will be an interesting test as for all of us in that approach. Those that have the most reason to react live pretty comfortable lives even after all the theft of our wealth. We have so many wonderful websites such as this one with so many smart people who clearly see what is being done, but we have no leadership in Congress of even on the statate level. Thend result is that the only way to change things is through violence. It will be a very interesting country in about 10 years from now when we are likely at war with each other. Chrisitans killing Christians while the Muslims stand on the sideline with the Chinese waiting to clean up the mess and benefit from our countries destruction. For christ sakes people, we have an illegal alien criminal in our White House and no one is doing a thing. What makes you think he is not taking all our money and funnelling it to the Muslims he supports all while idiotic liberals who are afraid to be called racists sit back and let it happen thinking it does not effect them because their constituents are made up mostly of the entitlement class.


  10. 36 jane August 3, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    I think that speaker of the HOUSE is supposed to challenge abilities of those that may be incompetent……ex. Gabby. Don’t get me wrong….I hate what happened to her and bless her for being alive.

    Is she competent enough to vote or was it all for show?

    Last question. I had a discussion with a friend of mine who states that according to the Bible, we are supposed to Obey our Government….pay taxes, blah, blah, blah,.

    My response was only to a government that honors GOD and His Son……

    What is your take on this issue? Please comment on both questions raised.

    • 37 drkate August 3, 2011 at 12:45 pm

      The churches use that part of Romans to drum in false allegiance to governments of man. I don’t believe it. The lecture I posted in this article is a very good one on that subject.

      Re Giffords. Whatever. But the Speaker will do nothing…just like pelosi let a rep serve who had hepatitis C and was clearly demented. Gabby Giffords was for show. Being in AZ we hear reports from her doctors. She is not able to serve, she can barely speak. NOtice her blank expression? This is Obama and the dems abusing her, and I mean it, showing everyone what happens if you go against Obama.

      • 38 Ann S. August 3, 2011 at 12:57 pm

        Dr. Kate: Would you please elaborate on that last sentence? I’m interested in your thoughts.

        “This is Obama and the dems abusing her, and I mean it, showing everyone what happens if you go against Obama.”

        • 39 heather August 3, 2011 at 1:18 pm

          Dr Kate–Right on! And yep–about 2-4 wks ago her husband did say he would run in her place and now they are going to run her? Yeah–out of pity and right you are–she is what happens when you go against him! So very true.

          Ever notice that prior to the shuttles last flight how barry was cooing all over her husband? Hmmm—a show, a pity show, or maybe an inside threat.

          Doesn’t matter she needs to retire and yes she was brought out for just 1 reason. How disgusting they would flaunt her like they did and yes I remember the congressman you are speaking about–he was the one with Hep C that kept saying that Guam would top over. These people are handicapped and yet they USE them to their advantage.

        • 40 drkate August 3, 2011 at 2:43 pm

          I think it is abuse to take this woman out and parade her around as if she is well and able to function. The shooting was a staged event in Tucson. Giffords was wounded but there were other targets.

          • 41 Starla August 3, 2011 at 3:20 pm

            I also think the shooting was a staged event committed by the 100% Undocumented Illegal Alien Criminal Usurper, 100% Daily Serial Career Criminal, 100% Foreign-Born Domestic Enemy Terrorist, Soebarkah – Barry Soetoro, aka B. Hussein Obama/Soros & co. to further their agenda to move forward and to complete their attempted Coup D’Etat overthrow & destruction of the Constitutional Republic of the USA.
            to put Satan the devil’s irrational spiritual and mortal fear into the judiciary and Congress to avoid oppsoing Obama or they will be assassinated/murdered in public like Federal Judge John M. Roll that was done by the 100% Undocumented Illegal Alien, 100% Daily Serial Criminal Usurper, 100% Foreign-Born Domestic Enemy Terrorist Soebarkah – Barry Soetoro, aka B. Hussein Obama/Soros & co. to further their agenda of the current attempt of a Coup D’Etat overthrow & destruction of the Constitutional Republic of the USA. Obviously, all of the criminals who are aiding and abetting and who are working with “Obama” must all be arrested immediately and stopped immediately.



            “According to this SVR report, Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who this past Friday issued what is called a “preliminary ruling” in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] wherein he stated he was preparing to rule against Obama’s power to seize American citizens money without clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed.

            The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, this report continues, was about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States that the Obama administration claimed was their right to seize under what are called Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll, the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional.

            Should the Obama administration win their argument to seize their citizen’s money by Executive Order without having to abide by the law was made more chilling this past week when reports emerged from the US stating that President Obama and his regime allies were, indeed, preparing to rule America by decree since their loss this past November of their control over the US House of Representatives, and in the words of the Washington Posts columnist Charles Krauthammer: “For an Obama bureaucrat … the will of the Congress is a mere speed bump”.

            Since taking office in early 2009, Obama has completely overturned the once free United States through his use of Executive Orders that asserts his power to put anyone he wants in prison without charges or trial forever and his right to assassinate any American citizen he deems a threat.

            The most chilling of these powers Obama has asserted for himself, however, are contained in Executive Order 13528 he signed nearly a year ago (January 10, 2010) creating a Council of Governors he has hand-picked to rule over the United States in place of its elected representatives when their next “disaster” strikes and orders them to begin

            “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities”.

            Going from the chilling to the outright scary, about whatever “disaster” the American regime is preparing their people for, is Obama’s Homeland Security Department, through their Ready.Gov organization, beginning to air this past week a public service television commercial titled “World Upside Down” that shows a typical family sitting in their home suddenly losing all of its gravity and warning all who watch it to begin preparing.”


            * * * *



            “Obama recently signed an executive order allowing the feds to confiscate all 401ks and retirement accounts. Our media forget to inform us of this fact. A single judge adjudicated that Obama did not have that authority and stopped the confiscation.

            Federal Judge John Roll …

            The judge, USDC court of Arizona Presiding Judge Roll, was shot and died on Saturday by a “crazed gunman.” The historical connotations are similar to Kennedy/Oswald in several ways.”

            Read More Here: http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/was-judge-john-roll-the-real-target-is-tucson

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            “While the libs continue to blame Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and the tea party for the shooting in Arizona, one has to come to the conclusion that Obama himself is ultimately responsible for the death of the Bush-appointed Federal Judge, using the left’s own rationale.

            During June of 2008, Obama said, “if they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun”

            In October of 2010, he said, ‘We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends.”


            “So why aren’t Obama’s quotes being used as a footnote to every story about the Arizona shooting like Sarah Palin is a part of every story? Could it be that the media is biased, hypocritical and morally repugnant?

            […] It points out the absurdity of the left. They are hateful, ignorant, despicable people who don’t mind lying on a continual basis to further their political agenda.”

            Read More Here: http://www.redstate.com/traversecityconservative/2011/01/09/is-obama-responsible-for-the-death-of-federal-judge-john-m-roll/

            • 42 Starla August 3, 2011 at 3:42 pm

              I am having a little trouble posting comments on the wordpress forum. It posted before I was finished wrinting. This should say: I also think the shooting was a staged event committed by the 100% Undocumented Illegal Alien Criminal Usurper, 100% Daily Serial Career Criminal, 100% Foreign-Born Domestic Enemy Terrorist, Soebarkah – Barry Soetoro, aka B. Hussein Obama/Soros & co to further their agenda to move forward (in their wicked views), & to complete their attempted Coup D’Etat overthrow & destruction of the Constitutional Republic of the USA.

              I think the shooting in Tuscon was committed also to put Satan the devil’s irrational spiritual and mortal fear into the judiciary and Congress members to show them what happens when someone does what is right and opposes the criminal activities of the 100% spiritually demon-possessed Barack Hussein Obama. Instead of standing up in Christian strong faith against evil crimes against humanity & sins for Lord Jesus Christ Emmanuel and God the Most Holy Trinity, they look at the assassination/murder in public of Federal Judge John M. Roll and the others, and like the spiritual cowards they are, they turn away from standing up in Christian faith against evil crimes against humanity & sins that are being committed!! Obviously, all of the sell-outs and evil criminals who are aiding and abetting the 100% Daily Serial Criminal Usurper “Obama,” and who are working with “Obama” must all be arrested immediately and stopped immediately.

              We The People MUST live lives of daily prayers and sacrifices of obedience and humility to GOD because we are living in fulfillment of the Apocalypse Of John in the very last days before the Second Coming of Christ Jesus the Lord.

      • 44 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 5:22 pm

        That’s right Drkate. using her as an example of what will happen if they do not comply. Only she was supposed to be dead.

  11. 46 Troy August 3, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Last question. I had a discussion with a friend of mine who states that according to the Bible, we are supposed to Obey our Government….pay taxes, blah, blah, blah,.
    Dragging Giffords up there for a vote was a Nancy Piglosi disgrace.
    oink, oink!!!

    Malarkey!!!…Did she show you where in the bible it states that nonsense?

    • 47 DABIGRAGU August 3, 2011 at 8:42 pm

      There are alot of Mormons who feel that way. It’s also been a recent phenomenon that the government is sending out visitors to certain high profile church leaders to give them this message to pass on the the peeps. Separation of Church and State my butt.

  12. 48 heather August 3, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    8:30 AM, August 1, 2011 ι Abby W. Schachter
    Pennsylvanians on public assistance now have a new ‘civil right’ — free cell phones. Meanwhile, the rest of us get to pay higher cell bills as a result.

    Recently, a federal government program called the Universal Service Fund came to the Keystone State and some residents are thrilled because it means they can enjoy 250 minutes a month and a handset for free, just because they don’t have the money to pay for it. Through Assurance Wireless and SafeLink from Tracfone Wireless these folks get to reach out and touch someone while the cost of their service is paid for by everyone else. You see, the telecommunications companies are funding the Universal Service Fund to the tune of $4 billion a year because the feds said they have to and in order to recoup their money, the companies turn around and hike their fees to paying customers. But those of use paying for the free service for the poor, should be happy about this infuriating situation, says Gary Carter, manager of national partnerships for Assurance, because “the program is about peace of mind.” Free cell service means “one less bill that someone has to pay, so they can pay their rent or for day care…it is a right to have peace of mind,” Cater explained.

    Well, the telecommunications companies don’t seem to love providing this ‘right’ to poor folks because they are trying to renegotiate the deal with the FCC. The telecommunications companies like Verizon and AT&T want more paying customers, but their desire to reform their deal with the feds dovetails nicely with the political ideology of the current FCC chairman Julian Genachowski, who like all Obama administration flunkies sees ‘rights’ where others see ‘priviledges’. Just listen to how the agency put the question of providing broadband and cell service to those in rural and poor communities. “The goal of reform is to provide everyone with affordable voice and broadband,” the agency said.

    Between 14 million and 24 million Americans lack access to broadband, “and immediate prospects for deployment to them are bleak,” the FCC said in a report last year. “Many of these Americans are poor or live in rural areas that will remain unserved without reform of the universal service program and other changes,” the report said.

    But who says that cheap or free broadband is anything more than a luxury?

    Well, another Obama flunkie, Rahm Emanuel, that’s who. As we reported in June , the new mayor of Chicago was all excited to proclaim the wonderful news of free internet service to poor kids in Chicago’s worst neighborhoods. And how could Mayor Emanuel pay for this new ‘civil right’? Well, because the federal government extorted the money from Comcast when it wanted to buy NBC-Universal. Once again FCC chairman Genachowski was all about “helping the kids” by forcing the internet provider to give poor kids free netbooks, laptops, and internet service, indefinitely. And who is going to pay for this gift? Well, of course the rest of us poor saps who actually pay our bills.

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/capitol/free_cell_phones_are_civil_right_htTMcKQFrjdvyl9A6NHPdP#ixzz1U036IH4n

  13. 49 jrCarolinas August 3, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    Actually it is in the Bible, but I believe that it has been misinterpreted.

    NIV: Romans 13:1-4 1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

    but here is the version that is in the KJV:

    1Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

    2Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

    3For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

    4For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

    My Sunday school class just asked our Pastor this very question a few weeks ago when we studied the book of Romans. His reply was: If you know that the leaders who are leading us are not doing so in accordance with God’s law and will – then I say do not be blinded by them. In other words, if they jump off the cliff are you going to follow too.

  14. 50 jrCarolinas August 3, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    However, let me say that govts were established even back in the days of Christ. Render unto Caesar which is Caesar’s. There has to be leadership and rules and for the most part we all realize that. But to follow a govt into slavery is not what God intended for us.

  15. 51 jrCarolinas August 3, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    “Is there a time when we should intentionally disobey the laws of the land?” The answer to that question may be found in Acts 5:27-29, “Having brought the apostles, they made them appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest. ‘We gave you strict orders not to teach in this Name,’ he said. ‘Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man’s blood.’ Peter and the other apostles replied: ‘We must obey God rather than men!’“ From this, it is clear that as long as the law of the land does not contradict the law of God, we are bound to obey the law of the land.

  16. 52 jrCarolinas August 3, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    I have pointed out several times over at HeyokaPatriots about the story of Samuel and Saul – (Read 1st Samuel 8) – The people wanting to choose their “own” King and they “got” exactly what they asked for.

  17. 53 jrCarolinas August 3, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    oops smiley was suppose to be Chapter 8

  18. 54 Jane August 3, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    I appreciate the remarks!!!! It is like Obeying Satan if we do what this so called government expects us to do.

    I don’t “owe” anything regardless……..

    If they come after me I know exactly what I will say.

    Y’all come visit me if I get locked up! ok?

    Regarding Pelosi….she just had to make it about her, did she not? What a bloated ego she has ……..such a fake.

    • 55 heather August 3, 2011 at 2:15 pm

      Jane–I am with you—I don’t owe anything either–I pay all of my taxes and I did not authorize my signature on anyones bottom line for any credit or debit.

      So I guess this mean I am going to the new fema camp that was just finished being built in the next town over from mine!

      Pelosi–she is disgusting. Plain and simple.

  19. 56 jrCarolinas August 3, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    🙂 save room for me too

  20. 58 jane August 3, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Heather, we can be roomies! LOL!

    I’ll die in place before they haul me off.

  21. 61 heather August 3, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Lucky for us the temp did NOT get to 117 today—it got to 114 geeeezzz this is over 30 days now and no end in sight. we are on water rationing and burn bans now–which really is common sense.

    Can they take away haarp and the metals in the air now–please??? Is this perhaps an experiment they plan on for other countries but they are testing on us first…whatever—just freakn stop…this heat is unbearable.

    I now feel like I live in Phoenix.

  22. 62 heather August 3, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    Another freedom being taken away——this is a crap–its their way of watching and wondering if the patriots will come forward-thats all this is–they dont give a hoot about activists or anything else.

    This is just another trick to get to us.


    The New York Times and the Washington Post have posted articles detailing a plan by the Pentagon to detect and track popular ideas on social networks.

    They are not interested in what people think about Lady Gaga or the latest cooking recipes.

    In 2005, it was reported that the Pentagon was adding anti-war groups and individuals to a terrorist database. A Defense Department document leaked to NBC provided a “first inside look at how the U.S. military has stepped up intelligence collection inside this country since 9/11, which now includes the monitoring of peaceful anti-war and counter-military recruitment groups.”

    Northcom also has a unit dedicated to snooping on political activists.

    In 2002, the Pentagon established CIFA, Counterintelligence Field Activity, by directive. Its size and budget were classified. CIFA created a database, TALON (Threat and Local Observation Notice), to keep track of antiwar activists and individuals opposed to invading and bombing small defenseless countries. After a spate of bad PR, the government said CIFA was to be dismantled. It was later revealed that its operations were outsourced and privatized.

    A d v e r t i s e m e n t
    The Washington Post admits the DARPA – the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency – plan to hire programmers and researchers to build software to track “popular ideas” on social networks is political.

    The plan “makes a certain amount of sense, if you think about how Twitter, Facebook and other social media networks have been used to broadcast the ideas of revolutionaries, protesters and other political figures over the past few years,” writes Hayley Tsukayama.

    And, as the report highlights, DARPA could also use the social networks to identify threats. It suggests, for example, that the agency could look into incidences of several people in the same area posting messages about rumors that a wanted individual is hiding nearby.

    Or where the next demonstration against the Federal Reserve will be held so agents provocateurs and informers can be dispatched.

    “Social networks can allow the military not only to follow but also to shape the action,” writes David Streitfeld for the New York Times.

    In 2009, the Pentagon released a “Force Protection Advisory” about “planned protests at all Federal Reserve Banks and office locations within the United States.” The “advisory” went out to Northcom and the FBI.

    On November 22, 2008, Alex Jones led a rally at the Federal Reserve Bank in Dallas Texas. The Dallas protest is specifically mentioned in the official Army document. Ron Paul’s brother was also in attendance.

  23. 63 Hotlanta Mike August 3, 2011 at 2:50 pm



    • 64 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 4:38 pm

      Is this a joke? what’s going on? F’n experiment is the death of us all. You know what I mean!

    • 65 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 4:39 pm




      Just days after Marxist Free Market Saboteur Steve Lerner’s plans for mass May Day national economic disruptions have become known via secretly caught exposure of a taped meeting with other extremists, now new evidence implicates the Obama White House in sedition. Regulatory Czar Cass Sunstein; his wife Samantha Power, Senior Director of the National Security Council; and Department of Justice Attorney General Eric Holder are key players in a related plot to dismantle and destroy America’s Constitutional republic.

      In April 2005, Sunstein opened a conference at Yale Law School sponsored by George Soros’ Open Society Institute entitled, “The Constitution in 2020.” The event was designed as a forum to craft the agenda and assign the tasks for changing the nature and interpretation of the Constitution into a fully “progressive” Marxist Manifesto by the year 2020. Sunstein was a natural fit for the conference, as his 2004 book, “The Second Bill of Rights: FDR’S Unfinished Revolution and Why We Need It More than Ever” proposed a radical new document to replace America’s traditional Bill of Rights.

      The conference was co-sponsored by the American Constitution Society, another hard Left Marxist organization which seeks to rewrite the Constitution. Attorney General Eric Holder not only previously served on the ACS Board of Directors, but is keynote speaker for their 2011 Convention.

      The Obama faction onslaught against America is coming from all sides. A union thug with White House connections plots to crash the American economy while high ranking Obama officials seek to subvert the Constitution and Bill of Rights. We MUST compel Congress to open investigations and HALT the Obama wrecking crew that is daily dismantling America!

      Recent audio outlined a very real plan to collapse the American economy — including crashing the stock market and “bring down the banks” — in an effort to finally and irrevocably bring about the fundamental change, radical change, Obama promised. The sinister plan was set to take place the first week of May… and evidence suggests the plan may go all the way to the White House. Analysis shows a dip in the market the first week of May, partially due to the efforts of this Marxist “celebration” and partially due to George Soros’ Quantum Hedge Fund literally dumping their silver holdings, causing one of the largest silver price crashes in history. The market began following suit, and large scale dumps of most precious metals continued throughout the week, further depressing the already weakened market numbers.


      Steve Lerner is well known in union thug circles as the guy who uses intimidation to ensure success. March 19, 2011 Steve Lerner met with Abby Scher of Brooklyn College CUNY, Gerardo Dominguez of the Mexican Americans Workers Association, John Atols of ACORN and a number of other openly Marxist activists. Surrounded by fellow radicals , Mr. Lerner, unaware he was being recorded, felt comfortable enough to lay out his step by step plan to “put a boot in the wheel” of the American economy – crashing the stock market and orchestrating a complete banking collapse – in an effort to force Marxism upon the masses. Full audio with transcripts of Lerner’s plot can be found on You Tube, at The Blaze website where this story broke, and all over the Internet.

      Lerner identifies this as a union-driven plan, presumably crafted by his cronies at the SEIU, and he calls for the aid of community organizers. But evidence suggests Lerner may already have the assistance of the Community Organizer in Chief – Barack Hussein Obama.

      White House visitor logs show that Stephen Lerner has visited the White House repeatedly over the last two years. At least one of these visits was arranged by the office of then White House Political Director Patrick Gaspard – one of Lerner’s previous SEIU colleagues and former leader of one of the most notoriously militant SEUI chapters. Gaspard, not coincidentally, is a close Obama advisor who is now the Executive Director of the Democratic National Party and a key player on Obama’s 2012 election team.

      Obama made clear in a now infamous 2008 campaign rally that SEIU’s agenda is his agenda. Obama led a SEIU member chant after recalling how he started his early “organizing career” with SEIU troops on the ground, and went on to declare, “Just imagine what we can do together. Just imagine a President whose life’s work is your (SEIU’s) work”! It seems we no longer need to imagine. The present occupant of the Oval Office has brought sedition to the presidency — the highest office in the land. Barack Obama’s own front group “Organizing for America” helped stage the recent Wisconsin “Days of Rage” protests that were notable for union-led violence, death threats and radical acts of intimidation, and now it appears he and his administration may be connected to a far-left coalition actively plotting to collapse the American economy.


      My friends, Stephen Lerner’s closed-attendance discussion at The Left Forum was not some simple academic and theoretical discussion of what revolutionary resistance might look like. It was a high-level presentation of a very real, well thought out plan that is underway for economic terrorism, and a recruitment call to leftwing radical leaders of other organizations to join in it. Stephen Lerner’s terrorist plans, and actions of incitement and enlistment are outright sedition, all potentially prosecutable offenses.

      In normal circumstances, we could count on the Department of Justice to investigate and uphold the rule of law. But alas, as we have seen with Eric Holder’s refusal to prosecute colleagues, supporters and friends of Obama, including the election fraud and racist thuggery at the hands of the New Black Panthers, the once venerable DOJ is a rogue agency in a rogue administration, and can no longer be trusted to do its duty. Why have not the murky, possibly orchestrated causes behind the terrible economic crisis of the 2008 national fiscal collapse been investigated and disclosed to the nation? No, we must instead call upon this 112th Congress, and demand an immediate investigation of Stephen Lerner, and all of those who participated in his conspiratorial call to anarchy, sedition and economic terrorism on March 19. That investigation must include disclosure of all the participants and plotters lurking behind the scenes who are actively working to disrupt and destroy America — even if that road leads us directly to the White House.


      This is no longer a matter of speculation. The Marxist plan to smash our commercial republic is alive and active within the corridors of power in America as never before. Their plans to launch their latest assault on these United States is scheduled for, of course, May Day — May 1, 2011 — and has been sounded to their foot soldiers as a very real and potentially calamitous call to harm our nation.

      We were warned when Obama first appeared on the national scene that he was at the least an academic Marxist surrounded by radicals, and a menace to the security, sovereignty and prosperity of the nation. Now there is evidence in abundance to confirm that judgment. We MUST force Congress to act NOW – before the evil forces that mean to destroy America are able to implement their plans. The very survival of our country is at stake if we do not take seriously the threat within. We implore you, fax Congress TODAY.

      • 66 Starla August 3, 2011 at 4:51 pm

        Here is the link to the article:




        Read More Here:


        • 67 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 5:09 pm

          Starla you are echoing again.

          • 68 Starla August 4, 2011 at 11:56 am

            I didn’t see Hotlanta Mike’s link above yours…. Thanks for posting this article, though, Quantum Leap!! I am in a hurry to post things as my time on the computer is limited, because I have a lot of work to do each day & night!

      • 69 heather August 3, 2011 at 7:50 pm

        QL–if they were caught on tape–who has the tape — where is it? Was it the FBI–?? Inquiring minds NEED to know.

  24. 70 heather August 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Someone is standing and yes he is right–the super congress is a coup! Thank God someone is opposing this.


    • 71 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 4:46 pm

      What’s this? Are you freakin’ kidding me!

    • 73 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 5:24 pm

      What? what? what?
      We knew it drkate. We knew this before the election 2008.

      GOA Chief: Super Congress ‘Will Lead Us Into Dictatorship’

      New committee is a “coup d’état” by the ruling class

      Paul Joseph Watson
      Prison Planet.com
      Wednesday, August 3, 2011

      Gun Owners of America chief Larry Pratt warns that the new “Super Congress” created by the debt deal will lead America into dictatorship, labeling the move a “coup d’état” by the political class aimed at transforming the entire structure of government in the United States.

      Comparing the super committee to Plato’s council, Pratt pointed out that it would take just 34 Senate votes to sustain a bill put forward by the group, noting that it has been set up specifically to prevent lawmakers getting in the way of its agenda by necessitating a super majority to overturn anything introduced by the committee.

      “The first act of the next Congress hopefully is going to be to repeal this horrible piece of legislation, Pratt told the Alex Jones Show, adding that the committee could be used to target gun owners, property owners, taxpayers and businesses.

      “This is a game changer, they’ve decided that we don’t need the House of Representatives to originate revenue bills, we’ll just have the ‘super 12′ do that,” said Pratt, adding that Barack Obama would become the de facto deciding 13th member.

      Legislation decided on by the Super Congress would be immune from amendment and lawmakers would only be able to register an up or down vote, eliminating the ability to filibuster.

      Pratt warned that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell would appoint “wusses” to the committee, a point emphasized by reports which indicate lawmakers who voted against the debt hike will be barred from selection for the Super Congress. Just two weeks ago McConnell himself argued that the power of the purse, constitutionally ascribed to Congress, should be turned over wholesale to Barack Obama.

      “They’re going to put ‘reasonable people’ on there – and these reasonable people will be the ones that continue to lead us into dictatorship,” said the Gun Owners chief, adding that the move represented a coup d’état by the ruling political class, who are now busy characterizing those who oppose their agenda as “terrorists”.

      A d v e r t i s e m e n t
      Pratt noted how the debt bill was passed on the back of similar threats made before the 2008 bailout vote that warned of an economic apocalypse if an agreement was not reached.

      “They had us all breathless that the country, if we didn’t have something happening today, was going to default. That was a lie and they continued to use it even after members of Congress explained many times, no we don’t default….they stampeded a lot of members of Congress into this,” said Pratt, adding that lawmakers figuratively had a gun put to their head.

      Republican David Vitter shares Pratt’s concern over the intentions of the so-called Super Congress. He has introduced a bill that will “require the real time disclosure of campaign contributions to members” of the committee. The bill requires members of the Super Congress to report campaign contributions over $1000 dollars within 48 hours.

      The legislation is aimed at discovering “what special interests are trying to influence the committee,” according to Vitter.

      “We’re talking trillions in cuts, and there are already threats to increase taxes on many job creators. We need to see full transparency and accountability because these committee members will be making huge decisions with a lot on the line,” he added.

      The whole partisan theater behind the debt debate appears to have been largely “manufactured,” as President Obama himself labeled it, as a smokescreen behind which to implement the unconstitutional Super Congress. The so-called “cuts” enshrined in the debt deal aren’t even cuts.

      Talking points based around the notion that the “Tea Party won the debt battle” are a complete misnomer. All the bill does is put spending caps on already planned expenditures towards the end of a ten year period. The “spending cuts” are virtually non-existent, yet a further crippling $9.5 trillion will be added in debt over the next decade.

  25. 74 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    According to the constitution, the people are sovereign and the States (sovereignties) represent the collectively delegated power of the people. There are no Caesars save the people. Those rebelling against the powers in the U.S. are the employees of the people usurping those powers not delegated to them by the trust agreement known as our constitution.

  26. 75 heather August 3, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    Dutchsinse — at apprx 6:14 on the video he explains the cold and heat of haarp

  27. 76 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    Paying income taxes is not only NOT patriotic, it is unconstitutional. This is part of the brain-soiling that we have been subjected to. In 1895, the Supreme court declared that the income tax act of 1894 was unconstitutional in that it represented a ‘direct tax’ and was ‘non-apportioned’. Only due to the fraudulent and unlawful ratification of the 16th Amendment was that ruling negated. There is no law stating that tax on wages or labor is required to be reported or paid. This is a deception upon the people to enslave them. By definition, income is a gain from a business investment, not wages for labor. This deception was a deliberate enslavement of the people to pay the interest on the fraudulent debt to the banksters for printing the paper declared to be money by fiat. It is theft. It is the denial of the right to pursue happiness (enjoyment of one’s production or property). Wake up and do not be deceived!!!!

  28. 77 no-nonsense-nancy August 3, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Judge Judy sending this tape to congress. We should, too.

    How many billions of dollars across the country are wasted on scum bags like this?

    Pay it back or go to jail….”I spent it on myself”. Give us back the taxpayers money now!

    This is the result of the out of control welfare state.


    • 78 Renee August 3, 2011 at 3:38 pm

      Note how many times he sniffed and wiped his nose ! Sniff, Snort…I bet we can guess where his stolen money goes……….

    • 79 Troy August 3, 2011 at 4:18 pm

      A member of the “Mycheck” tribe.

    • 80 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 4:41 pm

      Can you say ‘panem et circenses’?

      Okay, let’s do a little clarifying here. On one side of the vortex is welfare and on the other side is warfare. The government has authorized the banksters to print counterfeit currency and lend that fiat paper to the government. This in and of itself is unconstitutional and theft. Then, the government has agreed to pay interest on the fiat counterfeit paper or ledger entries to the banksters. All…yes ALL of the taxes we pay goes to pay the interest on the fraudulent debt. Then the government works to increase the fraudulent debt either via welfare or warfare creating a dulocracy. ALL of the money spent by this criminal government is borrowed. Keep in mind that the government has the constitutional authority to issue the currency itself at no interest. Keep in mind that the banksters contribute NO INTRINSIC VALUE but lend a fiat for interest. When JFK had our treasury by executive order start printing silver certificates without going through the banksters at the Fed, it was one of the 4 things that got him killed.

      Dulocracy: Rule by slaves.
      I loaned out my book “Everything They* Ever Told Me was a Lie” so I cannot give you Pat Shannan’s exact definition of ‘dulocracy’, but essentially it is where the oligarchy traps the people into voting for bigger government by granting the slaves entitlements addicting them to vote away their own rights.

      Here is what Cicero wrote around 50 BC in his work “The Republic”:
      “Thus before our time, the customs of our ancestors produced excellent men, and eminent men preserved our ancient customs and the institutions of their fore-fathers. But through the republic, when it came to us, was like a beautiful painting, whose colours, however, were already fading with age, our own time not only neglected to freshen it by renewing the original colours, but has not even taken the trouble to preserve its configuration and, so to speak, its general outlines. For what is now left of the ‘ancient customs’ on which the commonwealth of Rome was ‘founded firm’? They have been, as we see, so completely buried in oblivion that they are not only no longer practised, but are already unknown. And what shall I say of the men? For the loss of our customs is due to our lack of men, and for this great evil we must not only give an account, but must even defend ourselves in every way possible, as if we were accused of capital crime. For it is through our own faults, not by any accident, that we retain only the form of the commonwealth, but have long since lost its substance.”

      Most of our founding fathers were very familiar with the writings of Cicero. And what shall I say of the men? Well, I will tell you that I know of not one politician today even slightly familiar with the writings of Cicero.

      During the 1st Century AD, Roman satirist Juvenal coined the term “Panem et Circenses” to describe the method by which Roman Caesars would exert control over the populace. Translated as “Bread and Circuses,” Juvenal was poking fun at how easy it was for the Caesar to make Romans forget important matters of society and state and instead focus on feasting and revelry.

  29. 81 Rene August 3, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    The biblical way is to pay taxes and tithe also. Christ said to give to Caesar what is Caesars ( tax ) and to God what is God ( the tithe which is holy ), Regarding obeying governments. You obey them as long as it does not conflict with God’s laws.

    • 82 Troy August 3, 2011 at 4:23 pm

      No, people obey them because if they don’t they know they will lose their freedom….They will be thrown in prison!

      Seems like a type of terrorism and extortion, doesn’t it?

    • 83 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 5:45 pm

      here is the real Scripture:
      Romans 13
      1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God; and the powers that be, are ordained of God.
      2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God; and they that resist, shall receive to themselves condemnation.
      3 For Magistrates are not to be feared for good works, but for evil. Wilt thou then be without fear of the power? Do well, so shalt thou have praise of the same.
      4 For he is the minister of God for thy wealth, but if thou do evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword for nought: for he is the minister of God to take vengeance on him that doeth evil.
      5 Wherefore ye must be subject, not because of wrath only, but also for conscience’ sake.
      6 For, for this cause ye pay also tribute, for they are God’s ministers, applying themselves for the same thing.
      7 Give to all men therefore their duty: tribute, to whom ye owe tribute; custom, to whom custom; fear, to whom fear; honor, to whom ye owe honor.
      8 Owe nothing to any man, but to love one another; for he that loveth another, hath fulfilled the Law.
      9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet, and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, even in this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

      Allow me to reiterate that in our republic, the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are the highest law save the law of God. We the People are sovereign and there are no governmental Caesars except criminals breaking the law and in particular natural law. God has not instructed us to participate in extortion, bribery, false witness, sedition, murder/abortion and the removal of God as Sovereign. That is what our government is about…that is precisely what we talk about every day here at this blog. Who is resisting the ordinance of God? Who is in violation of the law? Has God instructed us to support these violations in any way? I think not. What tribute is lawfully owed? None to those operating outside the constitution and/or God’s law. After you read this, go and read the 2nd Article of the Bill of Rights and pay close attention to the word ‘necessary’. What is necessary and why? Obey that law!! Then go read the 2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

      • 84 Rene August 3, 2011 at 6:13 pm

        Why is Obama there in the first place ?
        Dan 4:25 And you shall be driven from men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. And you shall be fed with grass like oxen. And you shall be wet with dew of the heavens; and seven times shall pass over you until you know that the Most High is Ruler in the kingdom of men, and He gives it to whomever He desires.
        Dan 4:17 This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the command by the word of the holy ones, so that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whomever He will. And He sets up over it the lowest of men.

        Satan is the current ruler of this earth. He offered all the kingdoms of this world to Christ if he would fall down and worship him ( Satan). Christ never disputed that fact that he , Satan had them to give a way.
        The good news is all the current problems will be resolved when Christ returns. The bad news is America , Canada , Ausrailia , South Africa and Great Britain are going to be conquered and go into captivity and slavery for the same reason Israel went into captivity. Idol worship and Sabbath breaking.
        This is a few years down the road.

        • 85 drkate August 3, 2011 at 7:06 pm

          Aren’t we already?

          • 86 Rene August 3, 2011 at 7:25 pm

            This is nothing , described as the beginning of sorrows.Christ described what’s ahead as the worse since creation. Hold on to your hats and you can pray for safety, that is to be saved alive physically.

            • 87 drkate August 3, 2011 at 7:31 pm

              That’s what I thought. I don’t see this as ‘hard enough’ for the end times. I will pray that I do God’s will, regardless of my physical safety

              • 88 Rene August 3, 2011 at 8:41 pm

                Daniel 12 tells us that when the sacrifices in Jerusaslem are taken away ther are 1290 days left. They have not started yet so we are a ways away.

              • 89 Rosemary Woodhouse August 4, 2011 at 8:50 am

                And His will will be done. Regardless of one’s “belief” (free will, after all) it is astonishing how this is unfolding exactly as written. It amazes me that even some with a modicum of knowledge cannot/ do not acknowledge what is happening is first and foremost spiritual in nature. The Bible also divulges that which is occurring in the spiritual realm. We observe only that which manifests itself physically.

        • 90 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 7:31 pm

          No doubt, we as a nation are under judgment, paying the price for collectively turning away from God and not being good stewards of the gifts he has given us. We have been willing targets of subversion. I believe that we are already in captivity, but that it will get worse.

          Do you follow the biblical calendar/Sabbath?

          • 91 Rene August 3, 2011 at 8:14 pm

            Yes and I keep the Holy Days.outlined in Lev 23, but than again so did Christ , the apostles and the new testament chuch established on Pentecost 31 AD.

            • 92 Rosemary Woodhouse August 4, 2011 at 8:52 am

              Ah, true believers- brethren,

            • 93 Paula August 4, 2011 at 5:59 pm

              Once again, this stuff is unsound doctrine and heresy for today in the dispensation of the grace of God. You have to follow 2 Tim. 2:15 which tells saved members of the Body of Christ to study to show ourselves approved unto God, rightly dividing the word of truth.

              The doctrine that you and Tenacity, perhaps others, are putting forth is not for the Body of Christ, which God is forming today, and will continue to do so until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in (Rom. 11:25~For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery (secret God kept hidden until he revealed it unto the Apostle Paul), lest ye should be WISE IN YOUR OWN CONCEITS; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in. After that, God will pick back up with the prophecies for the nation of Israel where he left off in Acts at the stoning of Stephen. After the stoning of Stephen, Jesus Christ appeared unto Saul and saved him by his grace and made him the Apostle Paul (his Roman name) unto the Gentiles and gave him to preach/teach the gospel of the grace of God–that a man can be saved just by trusting in the fact that Christ died for their sin, was buried and rose again for their justification–no works necessary; just faith/trust. Then, after being saved, the Lord Jesus expects his body to grow up in him by studying the sound doctrine given unto the Apostle Paul. If anyone is saved today, it is only by Paul’s gospel, which is by faith alone, not of works lest any man should boast. This is not to say that we should continue to live in sin, but to listen to what God has to say about us now that we are made the righteouness of God in Christ Jesus and to deny ungodliness and worldly lusts. The grace of God teaches us much about what he has done for us and what he has given us in Christ.

              Several of satan’s subtle tactics to blind the minds of men to spiritual truth is to tell them that the only place you are to divide the Bible is between Malachi and Matthew and that there is only one church in the Bible and that there is only one gospel (or good news), and these things just aren’t so. Contrary to what you’ve been taught by religious men, The Body of Christ, the Church, the pillar and ground of the truth, is not the New Testament Church. The New Testament Church is the little flock of Israel, the believing remnant, those Jews that have believed in the past and those that will believe in the future that Jesus Christ is Israel’s Messiah/Saviour/Lord/King. That is who God made the covenant with. He never made a covenant with the Body of Christ. Believing Israel are the ones who will inherit the earthly kingdom promised to them. The Body of Christ was created for the heavenly places and we will inherit the heavenlies. Believeing remnant of Israel will inherit the earth and rule with Christ upon the earth.

              Isreal’s doctrine is not the Body of Christ’s doctrine, but it is for our learning and instruction.

              If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord~~1 Cor. 14:37. 2 Tim. 2:7~~Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things. Paul’s gospel and doctrines were different from those that the 12 Apostles, and even the Lord himself, taught and preached. Not studying and rightly dividing the word of truth is the reason why people think that there are contradictions in the Bible and why there is so much confusion in Christendom—they have left the authority that God has given in his word, the Apostle Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles with message of the grace of God apart from any works of their own.

              I hope this has been helpful to someone.

      • 95 heather August 3, 2011 at 7:19 pm

        Ten–2nd paragraph of the Declaration of Independence tells us to alter or abolish it and institute a new government — please tell us all here how that can happen.

        Barry has made it impossible for us to move without being spied upon and is keeping our military off of our shores so we have no protection. He has the union thugs, the 1st responders, homeland security and lets not forget that he has 18k UN troops hidden all around America for just this purpose.

        Where and how do we change this govt?

        I can’t see a way around these criminals he has paid to take US down.

        • 96 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 7:42 pm

          heather, I always appreciate your comments. Thank you for your consistent contributions and sincerity.

          I have spent enough time on my soapbox regarding this issue. The key is working within each State and regaining our proprietary ownership of our money. This federal government is gone…it is no longer a de jure government and is functioning outside of the law (constitution). The only way to protect our unalienable rights is at the State level. We must break the banking vortex. See my article ‘Sound Money, The Key to a Free State’ at http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/35827. Once we have erected a legal barrier between the federal police state and the individual State citizen and own our own production again, then and only then will we be able to enforce constitutional law, common law and restore lawful governance within our State. I adhere to Dr. Edwin Vieira’s thinking and proposed Sound Money legislation. Follow the links in my article to learn more.

      • 97 Paula August 4, 2011 at 7:29 pm

        Here is a good study on Romans 13:


        I believe this makes much more sense, and perhaps by making this passage pertain to governmental authorities, this is one of satan’s attempts to dupe and weaken the BOC.

    • 98 Paula August 4, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      Nope, the Body of Christ is not required to tithe in the dispensation of grace. God is not, at this time, building the holy nation of Israel to rule and reign with him on the earth, but he is forming the one new man, the Body of Christ, the pillar and ground of the truth. Just read the Apostle Paul’s letters, because it is his gospel and doctrine that the Lord would have us to adorn today if we want to please him and be an approved workman. No tithe mentioned, and no sabbath keeping mentioned, only a few baptisms did Paul do during the first part of his ministry, and then he said that he thanks God that he baptized only a few, for Christ sent him not to baptize but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect (1 Cor. 1:17).

      See, the work of baptism, tithe, sabbath keeping, circumcision, i.e. the law, can make the cross of Christ of none effect for a lost person. It is not for this dispensation.

      Dear friend, have you not read Romans? Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: FOR BY THE LAW IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN (key point here). This is what the law was for: to show that we are sinners in need of God our Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ who is the only perfect law-keeper. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith (in the work Christ did on the cross) without the deeds of the law. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

      Maybe you could take a look at this link and consider the truths set forth: http://web.me.com/gracefamilybible/gracefamilybible/Books_%26_Charts.html

      Grace and peace

  30. 99 Troy August 3, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    The overwhelming majority of people do as the government says not because they are afraid they may offend God….What they’re afraid of is prison / loss of freedom.

  31. 101 jane August 3, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    That is what the ministers in the south tell us…pay.

    Guess we’ve been feed hogwash all these years.

    • 102 Paula August 4, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      You got that right, Jane. But, they’re not just in the south, but all over the globe. Ministers of satan that are transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works~~2 Cor. 11:15

  32. 103 SirLurksAlot August 3, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    I have read that the constitution is a legal document; a contract and that the founders were meticulus in its construct. About a year ago, I had a “whoa wait a minute” moment when I read a piece that had this phrase: The polices’ job is not to protect the people but to protect the corporation! Huh?

    I looked up the preamble to the constitution: We the people……..do ordain and establish this constitution for the united States of America. Note the word “for”. I then looked up the oath I took when I went into the service. It said “to protect and defend the constitution of the…. note the word “of”. Nit pikn, maybe, maybe not.


    -In 1860 congress was adjourned sine die, Lincoln could not legally reconvene congress.

    -In 1861 President Lincoln declared a national emergency and martial law…….this has never been reversed. (is this why barry loves Lincoln so much?)

    -In 1865 the capitol was moved to Washington DC, a separate country, not a part of the United States of America. (DrK: this was the basis of my question about the couple giving birth at the Lincoln Memorial..a couple of threads back.)

    There are many more items in the time line in the referenced article. Be sure and follow the links embedded in the article.

    • 104 heather August 3, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      I think 2 yrs ago Dr Kate and I went into this same info—the corporation of the US–DC being the corp. Also read that there are 2 constitutions–1 they go by and ours–but since then I doubt this to be true. Any of it.

      Ten whats your take on this?

        • 106 heather August 3, 2011 at 8:19 pm

          Great video Dr Kate–awesome Like this guy he’s got it right!

          • 107 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 10:22 pm

            Wow, that was the most truth I’ve heard in eleven minutes since my last conversation with Edwin Vieira. If Robert Steele would consider signing a contract guarantying what he would do in office with an automatic recall/resignation if he didn’t, I would vote for him as POTUS.

            Okay, there were a couple things he said that were not accurate. One, Kennedy and Lincoln were not ‘about’ to print money, they actually issued currency directly from the U.S. Treasury and Lincoln did so to avoid allowing the banksters finance the North in the war. Second, his choice of incompetence is giving the elite the benefit of the doubt and they don’t deserve to be let off so easy.

            Everything else Steele said is absolutely correct. I am calling upon Steele to lose 15 pounds, put on a shirt that doesn’t look like jail issue, trim his scruffy looking beard down to a go-tee and run for the GOP nomination. I will volunteer to work on your campaign. Make that 25 pounds.

            • 108 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 10:37 pm

              I love Steele’s final statement, “as soon as one State gets it perfect, its gonna spread like wildfire.” Amen brother Steele…preach it!!

        • 109 Paula August 5, 2011 at 6:29 am

          Let the people of the states arise! Show the federal government our power. They work for us!

      • 110 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 11:11 pm

        U.S.A. Inc. is a corporation and it may be owned by the Crown and/or Vatican. These recorded documents have been observed. The idea of 2 Constitutions is valid, but the original was destroyed in the War of 1812. There were copies and some of the original writers were still around. They took copies and chose the one that they remembered to be accurate. Since then, they have made a few slight modifications to effect subtle changes. For one, they made the original 13th Amendment just disappear. Then they fraudulently certified the ratification of the new 14th, 15th, 16th & 17th Amendments. These were never properly ratified by 3/4 of the States. Some states rewrote some to say the opposite of the Amendment and voted on the changed meaning. Many States violated their own State constitutions in the manner ratified (see Red Beckman’s book “The Law That Never Was). Some were done at gun point/duress. Too much has been made of the so-called rewrite. We must hold to the organic constitution as it still represents the essence or original intent of the founders. It would be marvelous if we could rewrite the 14th to accommodate the good parts and intent and lose all the rest. If only I could be king for about a week…a lot of nullification would happen in short order and a lot of heads would roll. The budget crisis would disappear so fast, I would have to give all the tax beneficiaries a free month of psychotherapy.

  33. 112 jane August 3, 2011 at 4:45 pm

    Thanks for that information! I have bookmarked it and will share with others. Never understood before and now I do.

  34. 113 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    When these twelve traitors and usurpers are identified, the American people must not give them a moments peace. Not a seconds respite from the fury of the American people.

    Calls, letters, emails, telegrams, start new blogs and arrange huge protests against the treason of this Congress that is a wholly owned subsidiary of Wall Street.

    Members of Congress that voted for this treason (it is after all an attempt to overthrow the United States Government) and the people that agree with this treason should be prosecuted criminally for this.

    These evil bastards in Congress have no idea what world of shit they have gotten themselves into. They will rue the day they voted for legislation that is designed to destroy the government and the US Constitution.

    • 114 heather August 3, 2011 at 6:56 pm

      Michael Savage has it together–he is saying that we the people MUST stand up and harass these traitors on a daily basis and stand together. We must protest, write letters, send faxes — the same as your post QL————–but will they listen since barry has signed his EO protecting him and his from all name calling and whatever they deem as terror.

      Thats a huge problem–that new EO–we can all go to jail or better yet this is what these new fema camps are for–all who speak out against him and oppose his evil dictatorship.

      I only wish everyone would wake up–and beware of the immigration/citizenship of all illegals that he wants to let in.

  35. 115 Voco Indubium August 3, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    RE: Tenacity “ Most of our founding fathers were very familiar with the writings of Cicero. And what shall I say of the men? Well, I will tell you that I know of not one politician today even slightly familiar with the writings of Cicero….. “

    History repeats itself. The debt-ceiling deal is probably the last nail in the coffin of the constitutional republic. It ensures the prez reelection. The following 4 years he will complete the destruction.

    Rome was the dominant power in Europe, it was founded on patriotism and high principles. As Cicero said these principles were fading away, which started the decline. It took a few hundred years after Cicero made that observation for Rome to disappear. It will only take 4 or 5 years for the US to do the same.

    Ultimately the GOP is responsible. They had a strong hand of cards. They were afraid of being accused of taking the blame for the artificial deadline of Tuesday. They fall every time for the crude tricks of the Dems. I see a similarity how they are falling for the other manufactured myth, that if you attack on the eligibility you cannot avoid being accused to be racist.

    The GOP is incompetent; they cannot even fight for their own interest. The Tea Party is not strong enough. So the USA, as Rome, goes down the drain.

    • 118 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 7:53 pm

      This would be a smart move on Trump’s part. It scares me because I know what Trump is about and he is tied way too close to the banksters and globalists. He’s all about Trump and would slow the waking up of the people. He would play the ‘panem et circenses’ in a big way. He would continue moving the nation toward globalism and do absolutely nothing to restore constitutional governance. He is very dangerous. But it would nonetheless be a smart move on his part.

      • 119 heather August 3, 2011 at 8:21 pm

        Ten–I was thinking more on the lines that it is competition against barry—hence someone from the GOP would win. That was my thought. There is no democrat running against barry and we need Trump to do that for the good of the country at least–and it would give us the winner we want.

        • 120 Tenacity August 3, 2011 at 9:41 pm

          I believe Trump might have a real chance of winning the nomination and presidency as a Democrat. The Demokrats would vote for him, a lot of independents would vote for him and he would get some crossover GOP votes. I’m telling you now that he would be very dangerous as a Democrat. There is a lot of red, white and blue fever out there still. People in this country are addicted to being lied to. He would give them exactly what they want. They would believe he would take this country in a different direction than Obama. They would be very wrong. He would allow a few oil wells to be drilled and, like the Bush/Scherff & Clinton crime families, he would say one thing while helping the banking cartels rob us into oblivion. However wealthy he is now, he would be worth one hundred times that in 4 years.

        • 123 Rosemary Woodhouse August 4, 2011 at 8:50 pm

          But Trump is a registered Republican.

    • 124 Quantum Leap August 3, 2011 at 8:03 pm

      Obama was elected by people who were politically uninformed and were mostly into the sensationalism of the race. They really don’t know, care about, or are even knowledgeable about the issues. How can I say this? Because anyone who takes even a little bit of time to look at the progressive liberal movement realizes that it is in direct opposition of what America was founded on and is all about. Sure there are the few hard core people in the party who actually want to make us a socialist nation, but most couldn’t even tell you what socialist means.

      • 125 heather August 3, 2011 at 8:25 pm

        Most don’t even know who the veep is–just watch jay walking and his asking the people on the street–they don’t have a clue. They voted because they were of age—and they thought barry was a rock star and because he was half white and black–and thought it was the COOL thing to do.

        I just dont see those voters coming this time, but tonight (shocked me) my husband said he will provide amnesty and citizenship for the mexicans and others so he gets their votes–that blew me away. Not that its not true, I just never thought that would come from him.

  36. 126 Troy August 3, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    via http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/

    “I want to alert everyone to the fact that there will be an explosive press release issued by The Birther Summit Monday morning. Everything is being coordinated right now to make sure this story receives a major buzz across the internet and traditional media outlets. A conservative PR firm is being retained to assure this story gets widely covered–to the point where the liberal media won’t be able to ignore it. Because they want this all to hit at the same time, I am not at liberty to provide specific details right now, but trust me, it should be huge!

    Along those lines, I really need your help. To capitalize on the publicity we should get from this story, we need to have all six of our volunteer coordinators identified and in place. We still need to identify three people who will cover the following national regions: northwest, north central, and southeast. Because of everything I’m needing to do regarding Monday’s bombshell, I need to be able to count on all of you to help identify those three people. Please reach out to anyone you think might be able to handle doing this.

    Come Monday, hang on–it should be a wild ride!

    Dean Haskins

    Executive Director, The Birther Summit”

  37. 127 Troy August 3, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Yikes! Look who just endorsed Obama for 4 more years
    Accuses GOP of ‘racism, lies, economic sabotage’
    Posted: August 03, 2011
    9:37 pm Eastern

    By Aaron Klein
    © 2011 WND

    It may be early in the campaign season, but the Communist Party USA already has seen fit to endorse Barack Obama for the 2012 election.

    While noting he is disappointed with “some aspects” of the Obama administration’s domestic and foreign policy, Sam Webb, chairman of the Communist Party USA, threw his support behind Obama’s re-election bid.

    In an article last week at People’s Weekly World, the official newspaper of the Communist Party USA, Webb discussed the need for a third party consisting of the so-called working class and labor as well as “racially and nationally oppressed people, women, youth, immigrants, seniors, gay and straight.”

    Get “The Manchurian President” AUTOGRAPHED only at WND’s Superstore!

    Webb, however, recognized that such a party is not likely to emerge by next year.

    “Millions who have to be at the core of this party still operate under the umbrella of the Democratic Party, albeit increasingly in an independent fashion,” he noted.

    Webb said that for communists there are major differences between Democrats and Republicans. He urged his supported to continue to back the Democrats.

    Wrote Webb: “Neither party is anti-capitalist, but they aren’t identical either. Differences exist at the levels of policy and social composition. And despite the many frustrations of the past two years, the election of Barack Obama was historic and gave space to struggle for a people’s agenda.”

    (Story continues below)
    Read more: Yikes! Look who just endorsed Obama for 4 more years http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=329449#ixzz1U1m5LATl

  38. 129 Troy August 3, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Health Care Bill and Eligibility Challenge Stalled by Third Circuit Court of Appeals

    by Sharon Rondeau

    • 131 Starla August 4, 2011 at 12:02 pm




      By Herbert W. Titus and William J. Olson
      August 4, 2011


      “In a Constitutional Republic of the sort that we thought we had, the process by which laws are made is at least as important as the laws that are enacted. Our Constitution prescribes that law-making process in some detail, but those who voted for the “Budget Control Act of 2011″ (“BCA 2011″) were wholly unconcerned about trampling upon required constitutional processes on the way to the nirvana of “bi-partisan consensus “to avert a supposed crisis. At least two titles of the bill now being rushed through Congress are unconstitutional.

      First, the “Debt Ceiling Disapproval Process” in BCA 2011 Title III unconstitutionally upends the legislative process.

      […] Thus, as the Supreme Court noted in Chadha, James Madison “point[ed] up the need to divide and disperse power in order to protect liberty”: “In republican government, legislative authority necessarily predominates. The remedy for this inconveniency is to divide the legislature into different branches; and to render them, by different modes of election and different principles of action, as little connected with each other as the nature of their common functions and the common dependence on society will admit.” The Federalist, No. 51 (emphasis added).

      The Budget Control Act of 2011 does just the opposite. Instead of ensuring action by two “distinctive bodies,” to be “exercised only after opportunity for full debate in separate settings,” the Act truncates the deliberative process by shortening debate, excluding amendments, and commanding uniformity. See Chadha, 462 U.S. at 951.

      Expedition was never the principal object of the legislative process created by the founders. The object was to preserve limitations on the power of government in order to protect the liberties of the people. Liberties can be lost when bad precedents are set in the atmosphere of crisis — and crises can, and often are, manufactured. Precedents established can be hard to overturn. Rights lost can be hard to regain.

      The 74-page Budget Control Act of 2011 was not written over the weekend. Yet it was posted on the House Rules Committee website with no fanfare, only hours before it was to be voted upon, breaking the pledge of the House Republicans to provide at least 72-hours advance public notice.

      Contrived crisis, appeals to fear, emergency litigation, and suspension of Constitutional order — these are the indicia of abuse of power, leading to tyranny.”

      Read More Here: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/the_budget_control_act_of_2011_violates_constitutional_order.html

      “Herb Titus taught constitutional law for 26 years, concluding his academic career as founding Dean of Regent Law School. Bill Olson served in three positions in the Reagan Administration. They now practice constitutional law together, defending against government excess, at William J. Olson, P.C. They can be reached at wjo@mindspring.com or Olsonlaw@twitter.com

    • 134 heather August 4, 2011 at 11:52 am

      Someone ought to drive barry and eric holder to the border and just drop them there–no way in or out…..they disgust me and I have no respect for anyone in govt today. No one-they are all bought and paid for communists.

      My mother used to say, ” The bigger you are the harder you will fall ” and I cannot wait until I see them take this fall. Hopefully—-

  39. 137 madeleine7 August 4, 2011 at 2:14 am

    Thank you , Troy, for posting that video. It is so moving, I cried and cried. What a contrast between such decency and courage displayed in clip and the self-interest and evil that beset this world!

  40. 142 Hotlanta Mike August 4, 2011 at 5:51 am

    The thrill is gone…

    Huffington: Nobody Believes Obama’s Top Priority Is Jobs; It’s Getting Re-Elected


  41. 143 Hotlanta Mike August 4, 2011 at 6:23 am

    Bombshell: U.S. government questioned Obama citizenship. Said it lacked documents to determine birth country


    • 144 drkate August 4, 2011 at 7:00 am

      Thank you for posting all these articles. I have to admit I am extremely concerned about this…glad to see so many others talking, even if they are liberals 😀

  42. 146 Troy August 4, 2011 at 7:32 am

    Chris Christie Blasts ‘Crazies’ After Appointing Muslim Judge: The ‘Sharia Law Business Is Just Crap’

    • 148 heather August 4, 2011 at 11:39 am

      Christi is a fool–a loud mouth fool–this is his 2nd muslim he put on the NJ bench.

      Look, I am from NJ and have friends and family there and they all say he is no better than the rest of them. He’ just another liar.

      NJ is a wealthy state, and have massive unions–matter a fact-NJ is considered a UNION state—not a right to work state, and their property taxes are the highest in the country. Depending on where you live North or South Jersey is how they determine how much your taxes are. There are northern parts where homeowners are paying 20k + and southern homeowners that are paying 10k + a yr and more than 3/4s of those taxes go to the teachers union–.

      I owned several properties in NJ throughout the yrs and when one gets their tax statement–it clearly shows how much goes to the schools.

      Chris Christi is not what people think he is—

  43. 149 A Crazy Old Coot August 4, 2011 at 7:36 am

    I really hate to say this, but it is my opinion.

    Since Mr. obama has taken over the White House, he has proven that the congress are do nothing idiots and the Constitution no longer matters. Everything he has done is unConstitutional and congress continues to permit him to get away with it.

    The senate “could” revoke every executive order that he is issued, but fail to even discuss them.

    No elected oficial will even discuss the eligibility of Mr. obama.

    I get the impression that congress thinks obama is a king. Well, I only have one KING and he is not on this earth. Congress and mr. obama can take a long walk off a short pier. Nothing mr. obama has signed into law is valid due to his british citizenship and I refuse to bow down and obey.

    Sorry to get on my soap box again.

    Just the opinion of a dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy!

    • 150 drkate August 4, 2011 at 7:42 am

      I agree 100%. I am giving these guys and gals no quarter. They can all go pound sand…after they’ve walked off that pier.

  44. 151 Tiger 7 August 4, 2011 at 8:02 am

    It would seem that the prime deterrant in some minds of exposing bho as the fraud-in-chief is the issue of racism—that’s a convient bush to hide behind. The issue is not that he is half black and half white, the issue is that he is half British subject and half white.
    The gutless GOP will do little or nothing but the pressure is indeed rising , the lid is ready to blow—Hot Dawg !!

  45. 152 jane August 4, 2011 at 8:06 am

    I agree with COOT!

    Once this blows in their faces…CONGRESS…..they will pray that God will give them another chance. They have been bought and paid for by Satan himself.

  46. 153 durus August 4, 2011 at 9:22 am

    Obama: “We’re Not Even Halfway There Yet”

    “It’s been a long, tough journey. But we have made some incredible strides together. Yes, we have. But the thing that we all ought to remember is that as much as good as we have done, precisely because the challenges were so daunting, precisely because we we were inheriting so many challenges, that we’re not even halfway there yet. When I said ‘change we can believe in’ I didn’t say ‘change we can believe in tomorrow.’ Not change we can believe in next week. We knew this was going to take time because we’ve got this big, messy, tough democracy,” President Obama said at a campaign fundraiser in Chicago on Wednesday night.

    • 154 drkate August 4, 2011 at 9:51 am

      ‘big messy democracy’…nosiree! just goes to show you how little he knows and how much he disdains having to work with others.

      • 155 durus August 4, 2011 at 10:30 am

        It’s a Republic stupid… if we can keep you from duping the sheeple into believing it is a “big, messy, tough democracy”. If I recall, Benjamin Franklin said that the Founders gave us a Republic, if we can keep it.

        Can we keep it a Republic or restore it to a Republic?

    • 156 Hotlanta Mike August 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

      Typical language of a wannabe dictator…

    • 157 durus August 4, 2011 at 10:37 am

      “Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts.

      Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.” — Patrick Henry, St. John’s Church, Richmond, VA, March 23, 1775 View @ Colonial Williamsburg, http://www.history.org/almanack/life/politics/giveme.cfm .

    • 158 heather August 4, 2011 at 11:27 am

      Barry has ALWAYS used the word democracy—I don’t know if this is deliberate or not. We are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic —

      This is what him and hillary have addressed Egypt and Syria–as ( since their manufactured arab spring ) they have pushed for democracy in those 2 countries–and now those people think they have what we have because they have been brainwashed into thinking the US is a democracy–and they will have their dictators — the muslimbrotherhood—-ruled by sharia law–the same as where they are. I feel for them.

      We need for everyone to refer to the US as a Constitutional Representative Republic so the sleepers wake up and ‘get it’ once and for all. I learned this yrs and yrs ago in school–didn’t they?

      We need to correct every single political criminal when they refer to us as a democracy——-and they need to read the constitution and get familar with it, because obviously they dont have a clue.

  47. 159 SallyAl August 4, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Don’t think I can wait til Monday for the Birther announcement. Just give me something to make me sleep from now til then. C’mon DrKate, what’s up? I know, I know, you are honor bound to keep it QT. Aargh!

    • 160 drkate August 4, 2011 at 10:00 am

      Actually, it is hush hush for all of us except the organizer! But I can sense it has something to do with the funding of the summit and possibly some big name endorsements. Dean Haskins is doing a very good job and is on this 24/7.

      • 161 SallyAl August 4, 2011 at 10:18 am

        I was thinking “big name endorsement” stuff myself. Have to keep very busy this weekend. Maybe have a few little drinkies 😉

  48. 162 jane August 4, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Have you heard about the SUN doom for tomorrow?

    The grids could fry! Earthquakes…………..

    Think GOD is telling us something.

  49. 163 Tenacity August 4, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Excellent documentary to see how some are preparing.
    National Geographic Doomsday Preppers

    • 164 Quantum Leap August 4, 2011 at 5:45 pm

      They went through this very same thing during Carter’s rein. They bought gold and silver and stashed food and water and had a plan. The only thing that happened is Carter lost by a landslide losing 49 states.

  50. 165 Jan August 4, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    This is what the “Progressives” communists/marxists are praying for so they can finish what they have started.


    • 166 heather August 4, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      Yeah right, another one who throws around the word “democracy”—ad the media is of course so stupid and paid off that not one of them makes the corrections.

      And Al Gore–the terrorist, who made billions on us scaring everyone about a fake global warming that he continued for yrs.

      And of course he wants an American Spring—sure–right away — so Homeland Security can enact the fema camps and give those UN soldiers in hiding free reign over us–how stupid does he think we are. Never Never trust any of these communists—-they talk with fork tongue!

    • 167 attilasdaughter August 4, 2011 at 2:29 pm

      There was the American spring, I’m sorry he missed it.

      It started on tax day in April 2009 and didn’t stop until the midterm elections November 2010.

      It is a bit silent now, but don’t be fooled, the people are not asleep.
      It’s called The Tea Party.

  51. 169 Hotlanta Mike August 4, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Welcome back, Carter…

    ‘Dow’s losing streak now in ninth day’

    Commentary: Dow’s losing streak unmatched since 1978


  52. 170 Starla August 4, 2011 at 2:55 pm


    By Thomas R. Eddlem
    Thursday, 04 August 2011


    “However, Napolitano raised another — and unassailable — objection to the legislation. Napolitano noted: “This is this Congress binding itself and all future Congresses to a simple up-or-down vote.” In that sense, the new “Super Congress” joint committee is truly revolutionary, and unquestionably unconstitutional. Under the Constitution, no Congress can bind a subsequent Congress with rules of procedure, which is why one of the first acts of every new Congress after an election is for the House and Senate to separately approve new rules. One of the new rules the post-Tea Party Republican House adopted in January (and broken with adoption of the debt deal) included a rule pledging to post the full text of bills on-line at least 72 hours before a floor vote.

    Back on Ron Paul’s presidential website, the self-styled “Southern Avenger” Jack Hunter quipped that the “Super Congress’ is not super. It’s not even Congress.” He quoted a disgusted Ron Paul saying that it is “nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation.”

    With the great leap of power assumed by this Congress over all future Congresses, it’s hard to disagree with them.”

    Read More Here: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/8456-is-the-new-qsuper-congressq-constitutional

    * * * *

  53. 171 Starla August 4, 2011 at 3:00 pm


    ~~ “Congressman warns new committee will be used to advance Obama’s regulatory agenda” ~~

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    Thursday, August 4, 2011


    “Critics have labeled the creation of the Super Congress a subversion of the representative form of government. Recommendations made by the committee, which will be headed up by Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, cannot be amended or filibustered. Congress can only vote yes or no. If the proposals are rejected, pre-arranged spending cuts are automatically triggered.

    The committee has already taken steps to ensure that it will be little more than a tool for the Obama administration and RINO Republicans by moving to bar lawmakers who voted against the debt ceiling from being included on the 12-member panel. This guarantees that Tea Party representatives like Senator Rand Paul will have no say in how the body operates.

    Second Amendment advocacy groups like Gun Owners of America fear that the Super Congress could move beyond its effort to control the nation’s purse strings and focus on enforcing gun control legislation, a legitimate concern given the fact that Harry Reid has already insisted there will be “no constraints” on the committee and that it will have “the ability to look at everything.”

    The Obama administration has already signaled that it will become the de facto deciding 13th member of the committee following White House Press Secretary Jay Carney’s admission that the government would work with the Super Congress to hike taxes in 2012 and beyond.”

    The Article & Video Is Here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-super-congress-a-monstrous-creature.html

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    Saman Mohammadi
    The Excavator
    Aug 3, 2011


    “Perhaps I was asleep, or have amnesia, or maybe I was abducted by aliens, but I don’t remember ever having elected a Super Congress. However, apparently there will be a committee of twelve that will effectively run our country.

    This “Super Congress” of twelve will recommend cuts that will basically go unchallenged. They must make their recommendations by Thanksgiving, then the congress must have up or down votes with no changes. A simple yes or no vote to enact new law with vast implications on the lives of every American. That this group will be appointed and not elected is bad enough, but if their cuts hopefully done with a scalpel are not voted in, there will be a trigger that takes effect and makes even more draconian cuts, most likely with a butcher knife or ax.” – R.W. Sanders, The Huffington Post: “The Super Congress We Did Not Elect.”

    The dead body politic in Washington is transforming itself in front of our eyes into a new dictatorial machine that is responsive to the private will of a few international banks and monopolistic corporations, not the will of the American people.

    By setting up a parapolitical structure above Congress called the “Super Congress,” the traitors in Washington on both sides of the aisle are taking the invisible mask off of the shadow totalitarian government that they’ve constructed from behind the scenes in the past several decades.

    This hidden criminal government in Washington is responsible for the 9/11 attacks along with a similar rogue structure in Israel. The face of this evil tyrannical monster confirms all our original impressions which we gained at a distance, in the darkness of contemporary reality.

    Questioning the criminal shadow government’s version of the 9/11 attacks is treated as a mental disease because under a totalitarian system there can be only one version of universal history and global reality. The public memory in a totalitarian society is nothing but a mad, dark and mysterious nightmare.

    This new dictatorial and artificial body called the Super Congress is illegal, unwanted, and alien to the American Constitution, like Washington’s shadow militaristic government. It is shaping up to be the attic of the House, haunted and spooky, where dirty secrets and rotten deals will be made and guarded by a gang of crooks.

    The designers and backers of this new undemocratic system are betraying the core values and principles of America, and destroying all that she stands for.”

    Read More Here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-super-congress-is-an-artificial-and-authoritarian-agency-that-is-usurping-american-sovereignty.html

    * * * *

  54. 172 no-nonsense-nancy August 4, 2011 at 3:09 pm

    I wish Al Gore would get fried in his overly electeified mansion!

    I am so frustrated with wordpress, trying to post comments. I just tried to post one and it didn’t post and I spent too much time on it. I can’t do it again. Sorry.

    • 173 Starla August 4, 2011 at 4:55 pm

      Hi no-nonsense-nancy,

      May I humbly suggest a way to overcome wordpress’ new comment feature?
      I have started to go to: http://www.spellcheckplus.com when I want to write a comment. I type a comment, write an essay or an article there.
      I can use the grammer & the spellcheck there. Next, I simply copy what I want from there (without closing the http://www.spellcheckplus.com) window, & I open a different window & paste what I want to at a different window-location. I have found that this will allow people to post the very same comment, links, articles, or essays they write, or the excerpts of articles/essays that others have written to different websites, without having to type it again. This also allows people to avoid having much to do with using the finicky wordpress comment button.

      I have learned to use spellcheck and grammar check without failure, with any professional articles or essays that I write. I usually don’t take the time to do this with posting my comment. I remember a wonderfully funny comment I read on this site that makes me laugh today: “what’s blogging without a typo?”

  55. 174 no-nonsense-nancy August 4, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    I did do it again and it still didn’t post. WTF!!!!
    I had a long paragraph that for some reason copied one word at a time in an up and down mannor and I had to backspace the whole thing. I did it 3 times and still it is not here. Now this will probably post!

    • 175 heather August 4, 2011 at 4:32 pm

      NNN–I know I have to manually delete my posting after each submission–can’t figure that out–but there is another way.

      You can type on word-copy and paste it here — kind of old fashioned but at least it won’t get lost.

  56. 176 Troy August 4, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    I wish I knew something about Photoshop….I could fix this one up real quickly, but it wouldn’t be suitable for a “G” rated blog. 😆


  57. 177 no-nonsense-nancy August 4, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Troy we knew the market would go down!

  58. 178 heather August 4, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    And today mo came out with, my husband deserves another term-look at all his gray hair from his hard work–so he deserves another term.

    OMG—what planet is she from (don’t say it—planet of the apes!!! lol) sorry couldn’t resist that one.

    • 179 attilasdaughter August 4, 2011 at 5:12 pm

      An embarrassement for every black person that didn’t go through life like them.
      Well, Barry deserved his first term, because he was (almost) black. Why not give him his second term because his hair is (almost) gray?
      Anything, but being judged by his accomplishments and character.

      • 180 drkate August 4, 2011 at 5:15 pm

        especially when they dyed the hair gray…i mean how much stress can a guy have playing golf all the time?

        • 181 heather August 4, 2011 at 6:08 pm

          i think he hair was gray and he kept it dyed black–simply because a yr ago he was showing signs of gray–easy enough with JUST FOR MEN!!! lol…

  59. 182 Voco Indubium August 4, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    RE: Orly’s subpoena

    Can someone throw some light on this? Does she have a chance? Some say the subpoena is not valid because she is not licensed in HI. If that is the case, I can understand why the DoH of HI has not answered it.

    On the other hand if it is possible to obtain subpoenas, why a HI-licensed attorney has not tried it? I am surprised that there is not much discussion on this, from the legal point of view. Or maybe there is, but I have not found it.

    • 183 drkate August 4, 2011 at 5:07 pm

      Hawaii license doesn’t have anything to do with it…it is a valid subpoena… I spoke with Orly..she expects them to stonewall…

      • 184 Voco Indubium August 4, 2011 at 8:31 pm


        Thank for the info. Yes, obviosly they will stonewall in their usual manner. So in that case, can Orly force the DoH to comply through a court order?

        If she can – that is a big event – do you agree?

        • 185 drkate August 4, 2011 at 8:58 pm

          Yes, it would be huge. I just wonder if they will produce what Obama produced…I don’t know what the legal penalties are for avoiding a subpoena…

          • 186 Voco Indubium August 4, 2011 at 9:42 pm

            If they outright refuse to produce the subpoenaed document, Orly could go back to the court and ask for a court order to produce the documents. If they still refuse, it would be contempt of court with possible penalties.

            I suspect that they will not refuse outright, but they will make some artificial legal argument why they are not producing the document. In that case, Orly would have to litigate. The DoH probably hopes that they could drag it out after the reelection of O.

            Anyway – just a guess – if anyone can provide a link where this is discussed objectively, I would be grateful.

            • 187 RacerJim August 6, 2011 at 9:25 am

              According to:

              Federal Rules of Civil Procedure
              Rule 45 Supoena
              (e) Contempt.
              The issuing court may hold in contempt a person who, having been served, fails without adequate excuse to obey the subpoena. A nonparty’s failure to obey must be excused if the subpoena purports to require the nonparty to attend or produce at a place outside the limits of Rule 45(c)(3)(A)(ii).


              Civil Contempt
              Civil contempt occurs when a person refuses to obey a court order. Civil contempt can be “purged” by following the court order. A fine, confinement in jail, or both can be imposed for civil contempt. The sanctions are meant to coerce compliance with the court’s order rather than to punish the person. If jailed, the person will be released from jail when he/she complies with the court order. The failure to comply with an injunction (a court order directing a person to do or not do a certain act) can be civil contempt.

              Criminal Contempt
              Criminal contempt involves conduct that interfears with or obstructs justice. Examples of criminal contempt include threatening or insulting a judge or witness and disobeying a subpoena to produce evidence. A trial attorney was held in criminal contempt for his disrespectful remarks to the judge in open court proceedings. With criminal contempt, the act of contempt has been completed and the contempt cannot be “purged.” The punishment is imposed to vindicate the court’s authority. Criminal contempt is punishable by a fine, jail, or both. The failure to comply with an injunction might constitute either criminal contempt or civil contempt, as noted above.


    • 188 RacerJim August 6, 2011 at 8:52 am

      The subpoena was issued to Orly by the United States District Court for the District of Hawaii. Seems to me that the Court should know to whom it can/can’t issue a valid subpoena.

  60. 189 A Crazy Old Coot August 4, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Good night my friends. My blood presure is up to almost normal (which is high for me) from all the talk about Mr. obama, this countries debt and various other things. lol

    I’m signing off and getting some rest.

    A dumb ole (Natural Born Citizen) country boy!

  61. 191 Troy August 4, 2011 at 6:43 pm


    Last year, Karen DeYoung and Greg Jaffe of the Washington Post reported that US Special Operations forces were deployed in 75 countries, up from 60 at the end of the George W Bush presidency. By the end of this year, US Special Operations Command spokesman Colonel Tim Nye told me that number will likely reach 120. “We do a lot of traveling – a lot more than Afghanistan or Iraq,” he said recently. This global presence – in about 60% of the world’s nations and far larger than previously acknowledged – provides striking new evidence of a rising clandestine Pentagon power elite waging a secret war in all corners of the world.

    In 120 countries across the globe, troops from Special Operations Command carry out their secret war of high-profile assassinations, low-level targeted killings, capture/kidnap operations, kick-down-the-door night raids, joint operations with foreign forces, and training missions with indigenous partners as part of a shadowy conflict unknown to most Americans. Once “special” for being small, lean, outsider outfits, today they are special for their power, access, influence, and aura.

  62. 193 Voco Indubium August 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    RE: attilasdaughter –“Well, Barry deserved his first term, because he was (almost) black….Anything, but being judged by his accomplishments and character…. “

    We can blame the media, the Dems or everyone else, but ultimately the uneducated voters are responsible. Nowdays, the elections look more like beauty contests – is he/she good looking? How much hair does he have?

    O is not the first example, although without the partial minority factor he would not be where he is. Look at the ex-governor of CA – a movie hero. Or the ex-governor of Minnesota, the pro-wrestler. What intellectual achievement had they demonstrated before their elections? What made the voters believe that they understand the complexities of the state and they can govern beneficially?

    Let me give you another example. Talking with a highly educated neighbor (PhD) about Sarah Pallin, he said he could not vote for her because she has a high-pitched unpleasant voice. I replied: Well she is not applying for a singing role in the Met.

    • 194 RacerJim August 6, 2011 at 8:59 am

      Talking with my liberal neighbors of all higher education levels about Sarah Palin, they all say they could not vote for her because she’s not a Democrat. To which I reply: “Well, that means she puts what’s good for America before what’s good for herself.” 🙂

      • 195 Voco Indubium August 6, 2011 at 1:49 pm

        You and I would agree with that reply – but the Dems dont. The point I was trying to make is the irrational thinking of the voters – low and highly educated alike.

  63. 197 Quantum Leap August 4, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    SEWARD, NE—Claiming he wasn’t afraid to let everyone in attendance know about “the real mess we’re in,” Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke reportedly got drunk Tuesday and told everyone at Elwood’s Corner Tavern about how absolutely fucked the U.S. economy actually is.

    Bernanke, who sources confirmed was “totally sloshed,” arrived at the drinking establishment at approximately 5:30 p.m., ensconced himself upon a bar stool, and consumed several bottles of Miller High Life and a half-dozen shots of whiskey while loudly proclaiming to any patron who would listen that the economic outlook was “pretty goddamned awful if you want the God’s honest truth.”

    “Look, they don’t want anyone except for the Washington, D.C. bigwigs to know how bad shit really is,” said Bernanke, slurring his words as he spoke. “Mounting debt exacerbated—and not relieved—by unchecked consumption, spiraling interest rates, and the grim realities of an inevitable worldwide energy crisis are projected to leave our entire economy in the shitter for, like, a generation, man, I’m telling you.”

    Enlarge Image

    A drunken Bernanke attempts to find the Aerosmith song “Back In The Saddle” on the bar jukebox.
    “And hell, as long as we’re being honest, I might as well tell you that a truer estimate of the U.S. unemployment rate is actually up around 16 percent, with a 0.7 percent annual rate of economic growth if we’re lucky—if we’re lucky,” continued Bernanke, nearly knocking a full beer over while gesturing with his hands. “Of course, if everybody knew that, it would likely cripple financial markets across the entire fucking globe, even in various emerging economies with self- sustaining growth.”

    After launching into an extended 45-minute diatribe about shortsighted moves by “those bastards in Congress” that could potentially exacerbate the nation’s already deeply troublesome budget imbalance, the Federal Reserve chairman reportedly bought a round of tequila shots for two customers he had just met who were seated on either side of him, announcing, “I love these guys.”

    Numerous bar patrons slowly nodded in agreement as Bernanke went on to suggest the United States could pass three or four more stimulus packages and “it wouldn’t even matter.”

    “You think that’s going to create long-term economic growth, let alone promote job creation?” Bernanke said. “We’re way beyond that, my friend. There are no jobs, okay? There’s nothing. I think that calls for another drink, don’t you?”

    While using beer bottles and pretzel sticks in an attempt to explain to the bartender the importance of infusing $650 billion into the bond market, the inebriated Fed chairman nearly fell off his stool and had to be held up by the patron sitting next to him.

    Another bargoer confirmed Bernanke stood about 2 inches from her face and sprayed her with saliva, claiming inflation was going to “totally screw” consumer confidence and then asking if he could bum a smoke.

    “Sure, we could hold down long-term interest rates and pursue a program of quantitative easing, but c’mon, we all know that’s not going to make the slightest bit of difference when it comes to output, demand, or employment,” Bernanke said before being told to “try to keep [his] voice down” by the bartender. “And trust me, with the value of the U.S. dollar in the toilet, import costs going through the roof, and numerous world governments unprepared for their own substantial debt burdens, shit’s not looking too good for us abroad, either.”

    “God, I’m so wasted,” added Bernanke, resting his head on the bar.

    Later in the evening, Richard Kampman, a truck driver who was laid off in 2010, said Bernanke approached him in the men’s restroom and attempted to strike up a conversation about various factors contributing to the current financial crisis.

    “He stumbled up to the urinal and started mumbling on about the depressed housing sector or something,” said Kampman, who claimed Bernanke had to use both hands on the wall to steady himself. “Then after a while he just sort of stopped and I couldn’t tell if he was laughing or crying.”

    “Then he puked all over the sink and the mirror,” Kampman added.

    Customers at the bar told reporters the “shitfaced” and disruptive Bernanke refused to pay for his drinks with U.S. currency, claiming it was “worthless.” Witnesses also confirmed that near the end of the evening, Bernanke put money into the jukebox and selected Dire Straits’ “Money For Nothing” to play five times in a row.

    “This is what it’s all about,” said Bernanke, who reportedly danced alone in the middle of the dark tavern. “Fucking love this song.”

  64. 199 Quantum Leap August 4, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    Yes it was.

  65. 200 Quantum Leap August 4, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    I mean yes it is……. unemployment is more like 22% plus. Not 16%

  66. 201 no-nonsense-nancy August 5, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Thank you all for the advice on posting. I’ll try that next time.

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