Useless Idiots

©2011 The Birthers

Cross-posted with permission

Things for a Useless Idiot to do.

How to Make a Pawn

Meet the Useless Idiot Pawn Maker

Matt Lewis

watch him lose his pawn and the game!

The headline today at the pseudo-conservitive DailyCaller is a little misleading Coming soon: Rubio ‘birthers,’ it is misleading because we already been there.

Well over a month ago several leading Birthers, including my dear friend Dr Kate, and I were trading notes on this very subject. Much of what we discussed can be seen in her article Questions for Marco Rubio, released on July 27, 2011 almost a month before Matt dropped his pinky on the keyboard.

News Flash for Matt: We just don’t know the status of Marco Rubio as of yet. While the Supreme Court did define a natural born citizen as one being born in the United States of America to two US citizen parents, they left the question of those born in the US to alien parents unanswered.

The simple fact is the circumstances surrounding Rubio’s birth in Florida and Obama’s purported birth in Hawaii are the condition of the parents. Rubio’s alien parents were classified as Permanent Residents while Obama’s alien parent was never classified as an immigrant, he was only given a temporary visa, which makes Rubio clearly a 14th Amendment citizen.

The transfer of Cuban citizenship at birth to Marco Rubio is unclear because the Cuban Constitution he was born under was suspended well before his birth by both Batistia and Fidel Castro. It has been reported that his parents were defectors of the repressive regime of Fidel Castro, and may have caused them to loose their Cuban citizenship the moment they stepped foot on American soil, leaving them stateless. The fact is we simply cannot see what went on behind the “Communist Cuban Cana Curtain.” The truth is we looked at Rubio’s allegiance at birth, not only where he was born and his parents, and we simply can not say with absolute certainty Marco Rubio was born with only US citizenship, so that no other country could claim his allegiance. Obama, on the other hand, self-documents his birth was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948 and in doing so admits he was born a dual citizen, having multiple claims to his natural allegiance.

So why is Matt Lewis making a pawn out of Marco Rubio? Why are you so willing to sacrifice Rubio? As a pawn is sacrificed for a greater piece or to force a retreat, the answer to Lewis’ strategy lies in the closing of his article, if we question Rubio then in Matt’s pea sized mind we are not partisan hacks, but instead we are “either consistent racists — or consistently misguided adherents to the Constitution.”


Let me get this straight, if we question Rubio we are “consistent racists.” This means we don’t like blacks and we don’t like whites and since we are already on record questioning the natural born citizenship of Bobby Jindal, that must mean we don’t like Indians either. I guess we Birthers are either Chinese, or Eskimos.

The simple fact is when know-nothing, useless idiots cannot win the argument on the facts they resort to calling us racists.

consistently misguided adherents to the Constitution?

What does he mean by misguided adherents? Oh, yes, I forgot the Constitution of the United States is a “living document” that can change with the times and not a binding contract between We, the people and the government we created.

This is what we are to expect from useless idiots like Matt Lewis, as they try to make pawns out of others like Marco Rubio instead of honestly debating the issue of what qualities a natural born citizen has a birth and then examining those qualities to determine if a person is or is not a natural born citizen.

What we know to be fact is that these qualities a natural-born citizen are to “provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government.” John Jay. Could unalienable and undivided allegiance to the United States be the quality of a natural born citizen? And wouldn’t being born in the United States to parents who are citizens of the United States remove the possibility of a foreigner (dual citizen) gaining admission as a natural born citizen?

We also know that “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875)

I guess we are pretty misguided alright. Tell me Matt how should we adhere to the US Constitution?


While you can position your pieces thinking you have an advantage, very often your opponent sees through your moves, and the pawn you set out to sacrifice for your advantage simply becomes lost, sacrificed for nothing.

In searching the circumstances of Marco Rubio birth we discovered that like Obama, and many other politicians, Rubio it seems has developed a tendency to creatively, create a biography suited to their particular needs. (i.e. That is stretching the facts.)

The official US records show that Rubio’s father came to the United States 999 days before Fidel Castro’s takeover!

Matt, you are a useless idiot and you just sacrificed a more or less decent man. Are you happy now?

Just so you know, here is how we plan on fighting the racism charges by you and the rest of the LameStream useless idiots. Here is our campaign slogan.

In 2008, you voted for Obama to prove you were not a racist.

In 2012, you will have a chance not to vote for Obama and prove you are NOT an IDIOT.

116 Responses to “Useless Idiots”

  1. 1 borderraven August 28, 2011 at 1:15 am

    1874 Minor v Happersett, SCOTUS set precedent that a child born in the US to citizens IS natural born.

    1898 USA v Wong Kim Ark, SCOTUS affirmed a child born in the US to alien parents domiciled on the US(Lawful Permanent Residents) is a native born citizen, NOT natural born.

    1939 Perkins v Elg, SCOTUS confirmed that a child born in the US to citizens IS natural born, and removal of a minor to another country, or naturalizing the minor in the other country HAS NO EFFECT on US citizenship..

    • 2 drkate August 28, 2011 at 7:37 am

      ok with 1 and 2, disagree on #3….aka, not sure this can be confirmed as settled law. Rubio is not a natural born citizen; and obama could never be. These idiots are using Rubio against us to claim we are racist

      • 3 Hanen August 29, 2011 at 5:33 pm

        Or………maybe the corrupt GOP will use him for the spanish vote because both sides are two heads on the same snake,

  2. 4 Mick August 28, 2011 at 2:32 am

    One can also ask why Mario Rubio waited 19 years to naturalize, especially in light of the fact that Cuban immigrants are given priority status. Was he planning on returning? He must have still thought of himself, and thus his son, as Cuban.

  3. 5 bill August 28, 2011 at 2:56 am

    There are folks who will argue this point relentlessly,but I submit anyone who stoops
    to forgery apparently has grave concerns about his/her legitimacy.cheers

  4. 7 Hanen August 28, 2011 at 7:11 am

    We need to forget all these political games and save ourselves if we can grow a set of balls in time. Look what these people did for themselves.

  5. 9 thinkwell August 28, 2011 at 9:15 am

    I really like to see this type of posting (politics) rather than the conspiracy theory stuff (HARP – chem trails). As science/engineering professional I am far from convinced that our government has either the capability or the motivation and will to indiscriminately harm large segments of its own citizenry (including those who are part of the government) for no other purpose than just to do evil. It is too incredible – just seems like crazy talk to me. Still, I have no explanation for the really weird blue spiral over Norway.

    But back to Rubio…

    The important Rubio timeline goes like this: in 1956, Rubio’s parents move permanently the USA, 1971 Rubio is born, 4 years later, 1975 Rubio’s parents become US citizens.

    Immigrants who fully embrace America and really want to be American in all ways don’t wait an extra 14 years beyond the normal 5 year(?) period to formally declare their sole allegiance to their new country. Clearly that either was not very important to Rubio’s parents or they still harbored doubts about staying here permanently (maybe they thought Cuba would change for the better politically).

    Even if Rubio’s parents were technically stateless or under US protection, this delay is a major red flag. Given this elective delay on Rubio’s parents’ part, there absolutely is no possible scenario that could result in Rubio being a natural born Citizen. Sorry Marco, you are simply not Constitutionally qualified for the POTUS category of public service. And by your sneaky behavior everyone can clearly see that you know it, too.

    If he were a true patriot, Rubio would hold a major press conference where he announced that he was fairly certain that he did not meet the Constitutional requirements to be President or Vice president, but that, due to the importance of the issue to the country, he was formally seeking closure to the question via a Supreme Court ruling.

    Now that would make him a patriot of the very highest order, in my opinion. Let’s how much he loves his country verses how much he loves his career.

    • 10 attilasdaughter August 28, 2011 at 9:36 am

      When Rubio’s parents became US citizen in 1975, they started the naturalization process after his birth.
      Thanks for the info.
      He is just like Jindal not a NBC.
      I would also guess, that his parents were waiting for the political situation in Cuba to change, and then gave up that hope and naturalized.

      • 11 attilasdaughter August 28, 2011 at 9:39 am

        Of course I mean “If Rubio’s parents became US citizen….”

        It’s a typical error for Germans, LOL!
        “If” mean “Wenn” in German, and that sounds like “When”, never mind.

    • 13 Papoose August 28, 2011 at 11:59 am

      Thinkwell, have you not seen unidentified aircraft painting the skies with streams of muck way up above commercial passenger planes following normal flight paths that you can actually hear?

      There are 2-3 of these vessels at a time criss-crossing industriously making fake clouds 24/7 in plain view while airplanes just carry people to airports.

      Who is doing it?

      Why are they doing it?

      Who’s paying for it?

      Its incessant where I am from. I am more than curious, especially now that NASA has been flushed.

      Something is going on and our Governors are permitting it.

      I am with you 100% about “conspiracy theories”, but these unidentified workers/ vessels are visible,conspicuous and hard at work without explaining their purpose. No conspiracy, they are at work manufacturing false clouds and haze.

      Who is doing this? Why? What’s the big secret?

      • 14 thinkwell August 28, 2011 at 12:41 pm

        Perhaps it is because of where I live (on the left coast), but I have never seen anything like the activity you describe.

        Anyway, unlike with the nefarious criminal activities of certain large bankers and traders, who essentially conspire to steal enormous sums of money (a very strong motive), what could possibly be a motive for secretly conspiring with hundreds or thousands of people to indiscriminately dump harmful chemicals on your own countrymen, your close allies, yourself and your own family? There is no real motive.

        Also, there would be no way to keep such a large scale conspiracy secret. Most of the flying monkeys in the regime-stream media would be getting dosed along with everyone else. No matter how much kool-aid they have been drinking, at least some of them would notice and object to having their families poisoned. Not buying it. But it is still a free country, so knock yourself out.

      • 15 Jan August 29, 2011 at 1:24 pm

        This is a rather long article on Chem Trails, but well worth the read.

    • 16 Quantum Leap August 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      I have an explanation for “the really weird blue spiral’ in Norway. It’s called HARRP. Why use it? In this case it’s to get the countries minerals. Norway is rich in minerals and all the countries of the world wants a piece of Norway’s pie. How? It’s a process….a series of events and strategies.

      Why kill citizens? POPULATION REDUCTION+target the elderly so they won’t collect soc sec anymore and that’s a huge savings for the elitists who want ALL the money for themselves.

      Why near Washington? All the elitists were on break and GONE and this would be a perfect alibi to not be blamed….after all the hurricane was slated for DC too…’see, we wouldn’t wish it on ourselves’ type of coverup.

      “There is a principle that will keep a man in everlasting ignorance. That is contempt prior to investigation “- Henry Ford

      Believe what you will. Check back in about it this time next year and we’ll see who the conspiracy kooks are or are not. Many who claimed as you claim have since awaken to the truth. It’s in front of your freakin eyes!

      Lastly, why create the weird weather with HAARP? So the elitists can blame it on junk science called “global warming” and thereby collect phony carbon tax money for their already bloated offshore trust funds.

      It’s all about the money for the elitists and they do not give 2 shits about the people they are stealing the money from. Someone needs to tell them they can’t take it with them when they die and go to hell.

      Tell me this: Where did the TARP money go to?
      Where did the second stimulous go to?
      Where is our freakin money?
      So trillions go missing under the oblame administration and no one is asking any questions?
      Why did the oblame admin close down a republican owner’s business- Gibson guitars? To enforce a bogus India law? WTF?
      Now the obots can’t buy anymore Gibson’s….and thousands more lose their J.O.B. WHY?
      Ask for paper when you vote. Call afterward and see who they have you down for as for who you voted for. Do not use diebold machine to vote.

      • 17 heather August 28, 2011 at 4:45 pm

        Papoose and QL–please read this new article—and anyone else that believes this govt is poisoning us.

        Very intense.

      • 19 heather August 28, 2011 at 4:54 pm

        QL–I so love you for your honesty! You are right on…read what I just posted above. This hurricane was not a normal one–the eye collapsed too soon and although it remained a cat 1 it packed too much power–and was to slow moving and was completely unorganized. Seemed to me that just as it started to veer to the west — it was steered to the right–and that is not a normal hurricane. I have lived for 30+ yrs on the east coast up and down it and know how a hurricane reacts.

        And the media kept pushing the fact that the entire east coast would never look the same again–what the hell is that?—did they want the country to look like the navy map? Seems to me they did.

        So what good is all the money they steal from us if they destroy our planet and all humans and animal life on it. They are messing with Gods creation and I am just humbling waiting for God to retaliate against these satanic criminals.

      • 20 heather August 28, 2011 at 5:57 pm

        Chemtrails all day and now its later in the evening and they are still spraying—i guess tomorrow we will get storms.

        I just wonder what would happen if we all called the EPA and complained about the toxins in our skys which is creating toxic air to breath.

        • 21 Papoose August 28, 2011 at 8:39 pm

          thanks, Heather and QL….

          what gets me is this is a happening that is not being reported though it is in plain sight morning, noon and night.

          if its so innocent, then tell us what it is and whats its purpose. tell us who is managing the project and who is funding it.

          In my neighborhood:

  6. 23 attilasdaughter August 28, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Had the Democrats not taken votes from Hillary Clinton and given them to Obama he would not have won the primaries.
    Had the Democrats not nominated a half white “black man” who has zero connection to the real African American experience. Because they though only someone like him is electable.
    Had the media not covered for Obama until today, because they obviously think a “black” man needs protection.
    Obama would not be president.
    I honestly don’t understand how those people can call someone racist, when only racism made Obama president. Racism of the reverse nature that is.
    Time to look in the mirror, Dems and media.

    About Marco Rubio:
    He is too inexperienced to be president, no more American Idol elections.
    But at least his parents applied for naturalization.
    I cannot see when the petition is dated.

  7. 24 jane August 28, 2011 at 10:54 am

    I read somewhere that Rubio is another one world government stooge.

    • 25 heather August 28, 2011 at 11:38 am

      Jane–glad you made it through Irene and good to see you back–hope you didn’t have a lot of damage.

      But to your statement–I have not seen anything YET about him being part of the NWO group.

  8. 26 Jan August 28, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Everytime someone ask Marco about Vice Pres, his eyes get wide, he pauses, then he says he is just concerned about the job he has in Congress. It reminds me of someone that is about to spill the beans, pauses, and remembers he can’t talk about it.

  9. 29 Hanen August 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    (Roll Call) –The Federal Election Commission is showing signs that it might allow a Guyana-born American citizen to file papers and raise money to run for president of the United States.

    The agency released two draft advisory opinions (pdf.) Friday that could permit New York lawyer Abdul Hassan to go through the initial steps to run for president. But the FEC’s pending decision won’t be the last word on the constitutional issue of whether someone born outside the United States can be president.

    The request put the FEC in the rare role of deciding a large constitutional issue that has only a few intersections with campaign finance law. The two commonly held constitutional requirements to run for president are that the candidate be 35 years or older and be a “natural born citizen.”
    Both advisory opinions answer three of Hassan’s four questions in a similar way. They state that Hassan could be a candidate, may solicit funds and would be required to file disclosure reports. But the two opinions differ on whether he may receive federal matching funds.

    The first draft states that Hassan would not be allowed to receive matching funds because “the United States Constitution provides that ‘[n]o Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.’”
    The FEC is slated to discuss and possibly vote on the draft opinions at an open meeting Thursday. Four of the six commissioners must support an opinion for it to be approved.

    Read it all.

  10. 33 Drew August 28, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    quoted from: —

    “… The Birther Community are not the only ones interested in the fact that there is a Constitutionally blind love-affair with Rubio; has also addressed and taken advantage of the issue, alleging the if the Birthers ‘go after’ Rubio for his unconstitutional qualifications, it “proves” that all Birthers are racist. Their race-card play is based upon the nexus linking one brown-skinned, half-white ineligible [Obama] with another brown-skinned semi-white ineligible [Rubio].”

    This shows it’s important to ALWAYS point out the White John McCain was NOT, and never was a Natural Born Citizen — and thus the White McCain was completely Ineligible for the U.S. presidency (just as was Senator Obama) — in spite of the damning fact that the non-NBC Senator Obama signed S.510, falsely claiming that White McCain was a NBC — and the Corpo-rat Media kept their mouths wide shut… The Panamanian hospital in which McCain was born, was NOT located on a U.S. military base, because the alleged hospital was not built until over 4-1/2 years after McCain’s birth.

    … the following details are quoted from: —

    As mentioned at the outset, JS McCain III was born on August 29, 1936, at the Coco Solo Naval Hospital, Colon, Panama Canal Zone. His father and grandfather were reportedly “stationed at the base during this time.”

    The birth records from the Panama Department of Health do not contain the name of John Sidney McCain, III. Those records (in book form) are retained by the National Archives.

    The omission cannot be dismissed as a simple, bureaucratic “snafu” for several reasons. The U.S. Naval Hospital at Coco Solo, Panama, could not have been the “birthplace” of JS McCain III, who was purportedly born in 1936. President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s “Executive Order 8981 — Navy Hospital Area, Coco Solo, Canal Zone,” was signed December 17, 1941. It authorized the creation of the base hospital boundaries entitled, “Boundary Map of Navy Hospital Area, Coco Solo, Canal Zone.”

    The land surveys for the hospital construction had been completed in May, 1941, nearly five years after the birth of JS McCain III. The base had no hospital in 1936, so McCain could not have been born on U.S. sovereign territory, even if the base was leased.

    So, where was JS McCain III born? Who were his parents? Who were his grandparents? Who were his great grandparents? A sufficient lack of evidence proves that four generations of “McCains” cannot prove that they are McCains.

    The evidence shows that JS McCain III, through his father and grandfather, is directly connected to the British Crown via Prince Albert/Edward VII.

    • 34 Drew August 28, 2011 at 12:48 pm

      The first part of the McCain report is here:

      The Three Stooges go to Washington: Part 1

      By Don Nicoloff … May 21, 2008

    • 35 heather August 28, 2011 at 2:00 pm

      Wow I truly wish that the people who are behind all of these articles and continue to write them and call us names, would stfd and stfu and 1 more thing–grow the fu—what a bunch of losers who have nothing better to do than run around the country accussing true Americans of being nothing but racists–because they can just take that word and throw it around anywhere for anything.

      Perfect example–barry #1 race baiting and racial division, and the media and rest of the babies start and now we have loud mouth communistic al gore-the theif starting all over again.

      Al Gore take your global warming and stick it where the sun dont shine. Too damn bad we are on to your ponzi scheme of padding your pockets with out money…omg–if these losing bast3ards would just please come knock on my door I would gladly donate!

  11. 36 Quantum Leap August 28, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    There will be no significant recovery in the United States of America while Barack Obama is President. The evidence is overwhelming: everything Obama has tried to fuel a recovery (with his Democratic allies in Congress) has failed. Statistics claiming jobs saved by the stimulus package were mostly fiction, and cost American taxpayers about $275,000 each. Nearly 2-1/2 million fewer Americans have jobs than before the stimulus.

    Barack Obama has been President for 30 months—2-1/2 years. He spent the first year obsessed with passing Obamacare, a program that doesn’t create jobs, but might destroy a lot of them. He “bailed out” GM, but many believe that his interference didn’t save GM; it merely cost taxpayers an extra $15-20 billion, and stole from legitimate investors to buy off the UAW. His broken campaign promises are too numerous to list. At some point, his statute of limitations on blaming Bush runs out. The latest joke is that the White House is that named the location of East Coast earthquake near DC “Bush’s Fault.”

    Obama himself said, “…that after three years, if the economy wasn’t fixed he should be a one-term president.”


    Since Obama took office the situation has gotten much, much worse. Obama has run up the deficit at more than twice the rate Bush did. During the first quarter of 2011, the US economy “barely grew” —at 0.4%—that was followed by second quarter’s “anemic growth” of 1%. This was during the period when the Obama recovery was supposed to be well underway. Employment data is unremittingly terrible: new jobless claims are stuck at 400,000+/- each month, with job creation well below what it takes just to absorb new workforce entrants. More Americans have been unemployed longer than ever in our history

    This is Obama’s failed American recovery, and in the near future, Obama’s impending double-dip recession (thanks in no small part to his three consecutive years with Trillion-dollar in deficits that have inflated the national deficit to soaring heights—$14+ Trillion.) That legacy clearly belongs to President Barack Obama and with help from the Congress led by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi during 2008-2010. Thanks to them, our country hasn’t even had a budget since Obama took office.

    The latest Obama Blame Finger pointing focuses on the “Tea Party” as “extremists” who have a problem with astronomical deficits as far as the eye can see. (Pointing at Bush is getting a little old since he’s been out of office for 2-1/2 years). Obama needs a new scapegoat. The problem with the Tea Party is that it is like the child in the fairy tale, “The Emperors New Clothes.” The child is reviled for pointing out that the emperor is naked. Thus, the Tea Party is not wrong, just unwelcome.

    Now Obama also wants to point the Blame Finger at the GOP House for the downgrade in the US debt rating by Standard and Poor’s. It seems that he believes that everyone else is to blame but him. That downgrade was predestined by the combination of irresponsible spending and Obama’s clueless attempts to throw money at a recovery to no avail. Spending $1.50 for every dollar of revenue, running trillion dollar annual deficits is reason enough for a downgrade in the US debt rating.

    Make no mistake, there IS plenty of blame to go around. About 75% of Americans are fed up with both Obama and Congress. The conservative and liberal factions of the House and Senate behaved badly in the recent debt ceiling negotiation. President Obama wanted to stay above the fray so he provided no leadership. He didn’t even know how to bring the opposing viewpoints together. He talked about bi-partisanship and consensus, but his actions disproved his words.

    Until the president saw an impending disaster, he sat on the sidelines, afraid to do anything that might hinder his reelection campaign. Then, when his intervention didn’t help, and arguably hurt the progress, he grew impatient, petulant and angry.

    • 37 Quantum Leap August 28, 2011 at 2:05 pm

      Whatever happens, this failed recovery and impending recession belong to President Barack Obama. His condescending explanations of why “we Americans” don’t get it, how “this will take a long time,” this recovery, and his “class warfare” about “millionaires and billionaires” versus the “common folk” are all wearing thin.

      This kind of rhetoric won’t solve America’s problems. It takes strong, informed, and experienced leadership to get through a mess like this one. We need a fixer, not a hypocritical speechmaker in the White House. Barack Obama is not that man. A wise man once told me, “The person who got you into a problem is seldom the one who will get you out of it.” That’s why there will be no recovery on Obama’s watch, but there could be a double-dip recession

      Stick it where the sun don’t shine.

    • 38 heather August 28, 2011 at 5:21 pm

      There is once again only 1 way out of this.

  12. 39 Sharon Meroni August 28, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    When I win my case in the Illinois Supreme Court, nobody who even looks foreign is going to be able to vote in Illinois except people who look American! That means NObama, NoRubio, NoJindal! I need YOUR support for this! Once I win,, I’ll tell you how I did it so you can file the same lawsuit in YOUR state. There’s still time to make sure that only people who either look American OR can prove their own natural born citzen status can vote! Won’t you join me?

    • 40 thinkwell August 28, 2011 at 2:52 pm

      From what I’ve read of Sharon Meroni’s case and her own words regarding the evenhanded application of Constitutional eligibility requirements and verification law, not just for President, but for all elected positions, I very much doubt that she would make such xenophobic statements based on how people look.

      My guess is that you are an obot and an imposter trying smear her reputation and discredit her legitimate efforts to put some teeth into eligibility law. Perhaps Dr. Kate should check someone’s email address…

      • 41 Drew August 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm

        Looks like Identity Theft — a possible felony —

        the FBI will want the attacker’s e-mail and IP addresses…

      • 42 Tenacity August 28, 2011 at 4:04 pm

        Dr. Kate, does the email addy associated with the above Sharon Meroni belong to Chalice? I am certainly no fan and despise the donation solicitations, but thinkwell is correct that this comment is questionable.

      • 44 attilasdaughter August 29, 2011 at 3:38 pm

        The troll forgot NOSchwarzenegger and NOMcCain.

        Very convenient to just mention Jindal, Rubio and Obama as ineligible, so they can make their racist point.
        The NBC requirement says nothing about ethnicity.

    • 45 Drew August 28, 2011 at 8:36 pm

      Sharon (if that’s really you),

      What do people who “look” American, actually “look” like?

      A subjective factor like “looks” can’t reliably determine the existence or lack of American citizenship — so how can your case possibly prevail?

      Your efforts might support the need for a “biometric digital ID” for all citizens and legal visitors, whether that’s your intended goal, or not.

      Big money in those technologies, someday…?

  13. 46 Rosemary Woodhouse August 28, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Please provide more information for of us who have no idea what you are referring to.

  14. 48 Drew August 28, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Another vote for Obama —

    Obama’s DUI, illegal uncle arrested; ‘Uncle Omar’ almost hits cop car, tries to call White House

    • 49 heather August 28, 2011 at 5:50 pm

      So now not only was his “auntie” hiding in Boston living off of us he now has an uncle who had a warrant from ICE….both of these illegal aliens need to pay america back for their mooching of yrs and be deported asap back to kenya—and take his nephew and his family with them.

      So will the judge do to him what they did to the “auntie”–let him stay too?

  15. 50 Rosemary Woodhouse August 28, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Gee, haven’t you heard: he issued an EO forbidding the deportation of illegals. And after all, blood is thicker than water. Uncle Omar? He ain’t going anywhere.

  16. 53 Drew August 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Is Germany arming Obama’s narco-terrorist Marxist armies in Mexico? —

  17. 55 Troy August 28, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    Paul Joseph Watson
    May 4, 2011

    Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

    Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

    Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

    Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

    The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

    Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

    Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

    Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

    “He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

    “He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

    “Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

    “It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

    “Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.

    Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

    “He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

    “This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

    Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

    Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

    Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.

    During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

    “They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

    “It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

    “I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

    Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the stupid 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

    Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.

  18. 56 heather August 28, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Well then, stand up and tell the truth — come on national TV and make your statements — most of America will stand with you.

    But right is right and now is the time to come clean! We are out of time with this potus and need our country back.

  19. 58 Jan August 29, 2011 at 12:16 am

    This may be OT but it is vital everyone read it, especially if you have kids or grandkids

    These reports are blowing my mind. Be sure to check all the links in the reports. One and two are linked below and more reports are coming out. This is like the worst nightmare I have ever seen. You might want to send it to your doctor and your school administrator for your kids, your Congress/Senate, and all your friends and neighbors.

    You also might want to save these on your computer so you can come back and review them. There is so much information in these two reports it takes a while for it all to sink in.

    From Natural News:
    “We’ve already published the first honest assessment of the IoM’s report in a news item posted yesterday:… Part one

    Learn more: part two with more to come.

    The IoM (Institute of Medicine) then recommended the creation of a “National Vaccine Authority” which would be used to spearhead the U.S. government getting into the vaccine manufacturing business in what the IoM calls a “the creation of a government-owned, contractor-operated national vaccine facility.” (i.e. the federal government actually manufacturing vaccines, mandating their use, outlawing lawsuits against vaccines and imprisoning those who refuse to take them). (…”

  20. 59 Jan August 29, 2011 at 12:28 am

    Dr. Viera has changed his mind on Impeachment

    DR. EDWIN VIERA: any attempt by the President to usurp any or all of the powers … would constitute a “high Crime[ ] and Misdemeanor[ ]” for which “Impeachment” and “Conviction” would be appropriate

    … Read the rest of the article here:

    • 61 Troy August 29, 2011 at 6:39 am

      He was speaking of Presidents, in general – any legal President

      He was not referring to Obama….I doubt that sees Obama as a legal President, but rather, a usurper.

      • 62 Tenacity August 29, 2011 at 9:17 am

        My conversations with Dr. Vieira regarding the 14th Amendment have been mixed. I raised the issue that the 14th had never been lawfully ratified, mentioning Dyett v Turner, the Georgia Memorial Petition and the Congressional Record. Also citing the many poor court decisions justified by or based upon the 14th. Not denying any of that, Dr. V resists spending time on what he deems fruitless efforts or spinning your wheels. In other words, you may be right, but where will it get you? He saw little benefit in attacking the validity of the 14th and went beyond that in looking for the silver lining of the 14th. I came away from at least 2 conversation recognizing that he would offer negligible assistance in defeating the gun-to-the-state’s-heads not-ratified 14th. He did not disagree…he just didn’t see the reward equaling the risk of the time.

        I am glad that he has addressed the eligibility issue. Keep in mind his reluctance to engage in an ongoing debate that will consume his time. Thus his representations will deliberately be couched in an effort to end the discussion rather than protract it.

        • 63 saskamare August 29, 2011 at 2:02 pm

          Saw this over at Tea Party Nation:

          Why Obama cannot be impeached


          Rage continues to build across this country over the obvious forged birth certificate Barry Soetoro, aka Barack Obama, released April 27, 2011, as do calls for his impeachment. However, Obama cannot be impeached.

          Let me quote Dr. Edwin Vieira, who wrote about this back in December 2008 before Obama was “sworn” into office:

          If Obama is not “a natural born Citizen” or has renounced such citizenship, he is simply not eligible for “the Office of President” (Article II, Section 1, Clause 4). That being so, he cannot be “elected” by the voters, by the Electoral College, or by the House of Representatives (see Amendment XII). For neither the voters, nor the Electors, nor members of the House can change the constitutional requirement, even by unanimous vote inter sese (see Article V). If, nonetheless, the voters, the Electors, or the members of the House purport to “elect” Obama, he will be nothing but a usurper, because the Constitution defines him as such. And he can never become anything else, because a usurper cannot gain legitimacy if even all of the country aid, abets, accedes to, or acquiesces in his usurpation.

          If Obama dares to take the Presidential “Oath or Affirmation” of office, knowing that he is not “a natural born Citizen,” he will commit the crime of perjury or false swearing (see Article II, Section 1, Clause 7). For, being ineligible for “the Office of President,” he cannot “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” or even execute it at all, to any degree. Thus, his very act of taking the “Oath or Affirmation” will be a violation thereof! So, even if the chief justice of the Supreme Court himself looks the other way and administers the “Oath or Affirmation,” Obama will derive no authority whatsoever from it.

          Third, his purported “Oath or Affirmation” being perjured from the beginning, Obama’s every subsequent act in the usurped “Office of President” will be a criminal offense under Title 18, United States Code, Section 242.

          If Obama does become an usurper posturing as “the President,” Congress cannot even impeach him because, not being the actual President, he cannot be “removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors” (see Article II, Section 4).

          For those who think Dr. Vieira Jr., Ph.D., J.D., is just some run-of-the-mill attorney, let me give you a very condensed bio: He holds four degrees from Harvard. For more than 30 years he has practiced law, with emphasis on constitutional issues. In the Supreme Court of the United States, he successfully argued or briefed the cases leading to the landmark decisions Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, Chicago Teachers Union v. Hudson and Communications Workers of America v. Beck. His two volume tome, “Pieces of Eight: The Monetary Powers and Disabilities of the United States Constitution,” is the most comprehensive study in existence of American monetary law and history viewed from a constitutional perspective.

          Despite all the noise out there by Obama’s supporters, it is crystal clear the putative president was born with dual citizenship and is forever ineligible to be president.

          Obama seized the office of president through fraud. As a usurper, he’s never held office. That’s what the word usurp means: to seize and hold (a position, office, power, etc.) by force or without legal right. Since he legally has never occupied the White House as president, he cannot be impeached.

          Now, when I have pointed this out countless times to groups demanding impeachment, I get this response: I don’t care – we just have to get him out.

          Those are people who proudly proclaim they only want to see the U.S. Constitution upheld. Those are people who state unequivocally that the usurper was never eligible to run because he’s not a natural born citizen under the U.S. Constitution.

          You can’t have it both ways. In essence, what those folks are saying is we can do the same thing as Obama and his coconspirators: circumvent the Constitution.

          But, the usurper has committed crimes while in office! Indeed, he has and continues to do so. Knowing he was not eligible to run, the putative president solicited campaign donations to the tune of about $700 million dollars. He can still be indicted for wire fraud.

          Those who demand his impeachment are asking to set one of the worst legal precedents in our history: Any constitutionally ineligible thug can come along and buy his way into the White House. We’ll just impeach him later!

          To impeach would also accomplish this: Every piece of legislation he’s signed into law would remain on the books. Let me quote Dr. Vieira one more time:

          “Perhaps most importantly, Congress can pass no law while an usurper pretends to occupy “the Office of President.” The Constitution provides that “[e]very Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States” (Article I, Section 7, Clause 2). Not to a usurper posturing as “the President of the United States,” but to the true and rightful President. If no such true and rightful President occupies the White House, no “Bill” will or can, “before it become a Law, be presented to [him].” If no “Bill” is so presented, no “Bill” will or can become a “Law.” And any purported “Law” that the usurper “approve[s]” and “sign[s],” or that Congress passes over the usurper’s “Objections,” will be a nullity. Thus, if Obama deceitfully “enters office” as an usurper, Congress will be rendered effectively impotent for as long as it acquiesces in his pretenses as “President.”

          Besides removing a usurper from office, that should be our second-highest consideration and why the outlaw Congress hasn’t moved against him. All 535 of them allowed this to happen, and now it’s gone so far; they don’t have the courage to take on the mess they’ve made.

          The usurper can be indicted once out of office, but how to get him out? Please take the time to read my column on that process. Will he ever be indicted for his crimes? With enough public pressure, it can happen because his handlers would simply throw him under the bus as a liability.

          There will be a massive push to keep the putative president off the ballot in dozens of states. It will come from candidates who understand the process discussed in my column above. Mark my words, what’s coming will be a nightmare for the DNC and Obama’s handlers. Time is running out for them to find another viable candidate; something will have to give. One way or the other, Obama’s crimes are going to catch up with him, but please stop working toward setting the wrong legal precedent. It’s beyond frustrating, I know, but either we live our words in supporting the U.S. Constitution or we take the wrong road opening the door for another ineligible candidate with enough money and corrupt individuals behind him to seize the office of president.

          • 64 heather August 29, 2011 at 6:39 pm

            Thanks for this post–it is very enlightening to finally have some sort of light at the end of this long dark tunnel he has kept us in.

            And I also wonder, when justice Roberts swore him in the first time in the presence of the world, did he know this and was this the reason he deliberately blundered the words perhaps? Then to take him in solely into the oval office and PRETEND to give it again under the cover of darkness where NO ONE was watching and listening–perhaps he never did take the oath….???—because it was never given the 2nd time.

            Will we ever know the truth?

          • 65 Ann August 29, 2011 at 8:36 pm

            THANK YOU! I’ve been screaming this to anyone who throws out the word “impeach”! It would totally legitamize everything he’s done as a Usurper and we cannot allow that to happen. Please pass the word out to all who want to impeach this jacka–! So far I haven’t heard of one state that has passed an Eligibility Law. Very discouraging!

  21. 67 Jan August 29, 2011 at 8:50 am

    I’m still in moderation so I’ll break this down and post separate items on the IoA:
    These reports are blowing my mind. Be sure to check all the links in the reports. Report One and two are linked in my next post and more reports are coming out. This is like the worst nightmare I have ever seen. You might want to send it to your doctor and your school administrator for your kids, your Congress/Senate, and all your friends and neighbors.

    You also might want to save these on your computer so you can come back and review them. There is so much information in these two reports it takes a while for it all to sink in.

    “The IoM (Institute of Medicine) then recommended the creation of a “National Vaccine Authority” which would be used to spearhead the U.S. government getting into the vaccine manufacturing business in what the IoM calls a “the creation of a government-owned, contractor-operated national vaccine facility.” (i.e. the federal government actually manufacturing vaccines, mandating their use, outlawing lawsuits against vaccines and imprisoning those who refuse to take them). “

  22. 68 Jan August 29, 2011 at 8:52 am

    “We’ve already published the first honest assessment of the IoM’s report in a news item posted yesterday:… Part one

    part two with more to come:

  23. 70 heather August 29, 2011 at 10:50 am

    These useless IDIOTS are spraying my skies–omg–these chemtrails are everywhere in every formation, thick ones, thin ones, transparent ones, they are everywhere.

    What’s their plan for us in the midwest now?—what happened Irene didn’t cause the damage they planned so now they are heading here for more of their destruction–they haven’t done enough to us.

    • 71 Papoose August 29, 2011 at 3:06 pm

      heather, sounds like what they are doing here — huge, expansive ripples, too

      • 72 heather August 29, 2011 at 6:49 pm

        Papoose–it is now 8:39pm and I have just come inside from doing some yard work (have it do it after the sun goes down in the 100 degree temps) and within 10 minutes the sky was streaked all over again. Out front, out back to the east and west–the planes were spraying everywhere again and again. Now the sky is pure white again.

        They haven’t sprayed in a day and my guess is they are making up for it so they can create a massive storm here. Each and every time they spray like this we have massive storms with massive amounts of thunder and lightening and high winds with pouring rain, to the point where it floods. Now since we haven’t had a lot of rain since May and the temps have been in the high 100s (unheard of here) the ground is so hard and dry and the water just runs off–it doesn’t even soak in.

        Now this spraying has only been since he stole office–prior to that we never had chemtrails. But I went outside very early this am to take the dogs out and knew right away they sprayed during the night, simply because it takes my breath away and I cannot breath. My brother saw me go through this and asked why I couldnt breath–so after I finally caught my breath I was able to explain to him and of course he has lived here for 30 yrs and said they have never had skys with chemtrails until he recently noticed them after I finally was able to convince him of what they actually were.

        • 73 glorygal August 30, 2011 at 3:13 am

          It’s been kind of strange in GA. The chemtrails were seemingly absent for awhile here, then started again a few weeks ago heavy duty – always seeming to spray in front of the sun – to the east in the a.m., to the west in the p.m. Now the last couple of days they are absent again. Again, if there is no insidious intent, why don’t “they” explain what it is????? Just sayin’…..

          • 74 Papoose August 30, 2011 at 4:45 am

            I notice that, too, Glorygal, especially late afternoon. The heavy dousing is directly in front of the sun. That’s a fact.

          • 76 heather August 30, 2011 at 8:42 am

            Why is it that I feel like a totaly idiot always looking in the sky—and what’s really fun to watch is if there are other people around and as they see you look up, they follow suit!

            Oh and the chemtrails they sprayed all day and night yesterday–well the actual temps were due to be 106 today and now I just heard that airforce 2 was landing here late this afternoon with biden on board for a private fund raiser in a private home—so much for the chemtrails–they were sprayed to create massive clouding to block the sun because now the temps will NOT exceed 90!

    • 77 sky August 30, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      we need to see this chem. trail in action,with the planes and where the planes are coming from.saw some things on this,but it needs to be spread,video,and make copies,have parties.I wonder if its time we hear from the pentagon?

    • 80 heather August 29, 2011 at 8:23 pm

      I have asked Senator Inhofe’s office for 3 yrs why he hasn’t upheld his oath. I have called him and Senator Corburn, Congressman John Sullivan, even democratic Congressman Dan Boran all of Oklahoma the same questions and there isn’t anyone who will answer my questions and concerns–so why does this guy think he will get an answer.

      I can’t even get a straight answer as to why 72% of Oklahomans voted to keep sharia law from our courts and why the freakn judge is sitting on it for almost a yr now, just because some muslim from another state complained and cried, this is unconstitutional! For whom is it unconstitutional I asked—and no one owns up to who is standing for the peoples vote.

    • 85 Voco Indubium August 30, 2011 at 1:24 am

      RE: Justice Thomas – the constitutionalist?

      Not convinced. He refused along with the other justices to hear several eligibility suites on merit. No one ever received the four votes. They all know that O is not eligible – they must have looked into it, if for no other reason, than for satisfying their own intellectual curiosity. Thomas even made a remark at a congressional hearing when questioned by the member of congress from Puorto Rico.

      The article you linked, makes the point that the Left likes to belittle him. That is true, but it does not change the fact that they are all corrupt. The sad fact is that SCOTUS is just as corrupt as the two other branches. None of them deserve any respect.

      Would it not be their sworn duty to protect the constitution and stop the fraud?

      • 86 heather August 30, 2011 at 8:38 am

        I am well aware of the statements he made during that meeting he had when he stated, they are trying to avoid the question.

        All that matters is the article was written and published and I posted it for reading. I don’t believe that anyone, especially here thinks any better or worse of Thomas.

  24. 87 Tiger 7 August 29, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Wouldn’t it be something if , out of the current unbelievable mess our government is presently in, there would evolve a correction of the socialistic implimentation of FDR’s New Deal crap.
    We need more thinkers like Justice Thomas–black or white.

    • 88 heather August 29, 2011 at 8:24 pm

      Ditto and he’s doing all of this on the QT!

    • 89 Tenacity August 29, 2011 at 8:38 pm

      Evolutionists are the racists. True Christians know that we all descend from the same created man, not out of some impossible (1 X 10 to 40,000 power) accident in a fictional primordial slime. I am however prejudice and it is against the amoral Luciferians known as the ‘one world order’, secret societies, international banksters, esoteric agendas, eugenicists and anyone who believes there bloodline superior to any others created in God’s image. Christ identifies these, who He despises, in Matthew 23:15 and again in Revelation 2:9 9 “I know thy works and tribulation, and poverty (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them, which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan.”

    • 90 oldsalt79 September 1, 2011 at 8:39 pm

      Yeah we sure need more like Thomas………it was he who stated in public forum that the SCOTUS (which includes Thomas) was evading the issue.

  25. 91 A Crazy Old Coot August 29, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    The title of this thread should be “members of congress” but that means the same thing as the current title!

  26. 93 Kanbun August 30, 2011 at 6:50 am

    Anybody that thinks there is a way to twist or rationalize Rubio’s nativity to make him qualified, or to get a court to spin a ruling saying that, is no better than the OBOTS that defend Barry. The only reason for anybody to spin for Rubio is politics – not belief in the constitution. Would Rubio help the Republicans in ’12? Probably. But you either have a principled spine or you don’t. If you think we should spin Rubio’s status to satisfy a political end, then put simply….you suck and you’re not a patriot. As for Rubio, his political value is clear, but all you need to know about him is that he has no principles either and cares more about himself than the constitution he is sworn to uphold. If he had a spine, he would speak clearly to the issue and confirm his ineligibility.

  27. 94 Tiger 7 August 30, 2011 at 7:12 am

    Where did bho’s dear ole uncle get his Social Security Number??? Same place bho got his ??

  28. 95 Mick August 30, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Exactly!! HERE HERE Kanbun!!

  29. 96 Stock August 30, 2011 at 8:13 am

    You are absolutely right about Rubio-he knows he is not eligible-and why- but avoids stating why he cannot run for higher office-which would be if he explained it-a simple way to force the recognition of the issue-but this demonstrates that his principles stop where his paycheck and party loyalty begin. It is a painful thought that we have been totally betrayed by the RINO Gop-and those that claim they are “constitutional conservatives” (thats you Michele) Its also difficult to determine that we may have to act on principle to either refrain from voting or vote for a third party candidate-which will almost certainly cause the re-election of the usurper-in order to be true to our own principles-and the Constitution.

    There is some renewed Trump buzz. Even though at this point I would conclude that he would only be in it for what favors or power he could extort from any other candidate or party not to run-he was the only public voice for our issue-and we should use him accordingly if possible in any way possible.

  30. 97 Stock August 30, 2011 at 9:57 am

    See the Post and Email article by Cody Robert Judy-who will be running as a Dem and apparently raising the Eligibility issue.

    • 98 Ann August 30, 2011 at 7:43 pm

      I just read that!!! Wow what a shocker! A “birther” running as a Dem…or a Dem running as a “birther”. lol

      Here’s the link for anyone that wants to read about it and about him.

    • 99 chris September 2, 2011 at 4:39 am

      Cody is a constitutionalist in every sense of the word. His out-of-the-box efforts in challenging the usurper is commendable.
      Imagine – we are not satified with any of the R candidates and want to vote our own choice, so if ALL OF US vote for Cody, the only one challenging the usurper on his own playing field, it will set off a thunder that the world has to take notice. Distract them, infuriate them, make them defend the usurper’s eligibility thus bringing more public awareness of the usurpation…….
      It is time we think and act outside the box!
      The Dems cross the line to vote for our primary candidate ( one they think they can defeat), why can’t we vote for our own Dem primary candidate to achieve our goal?
      Donald Trump gets our support, why not support Cody? Cody is real. His efforts are solely for upholding the constitution, including article 2.

        • 101 chris September 3, 2011 at 4:29 am

          I am only suggesting throwing the Dems’ primary into chaos (by voting for Cody) to bring people’s attention to the obama usurpation. Should Cody win at the primary, we will have a real choice. If not, then we will have a tough decision on whether to vote to make sure obama is voted out or to ‘vote our conscience’ but risk leaving obama there.
          The more votes for Cody, the louder our message to the candidates that we want them to abide by the entire constituion, including article 2!

      • 102 bill September 2, 2011 at 7:20 am

        I don’t see anything wrong with folks voting their conscience because it seems that
        it won’t make any difference who is elected as ALL three branches of government have abdicated any responsibility to follow Our Constitution.There is an old saying “When you don’t have anything,what have you got to lose ? ” I keep hearing the
        detractors saying “Oh No ! that will split the vote ” Well so what ?! In 2010,citizens
        flipped the House and then sat by and watched the house agree to turning over their duties and responsibilities to a panel called a “Super Congress” or some such nonsense,thereby negating any representatives that many constituents had elected.Excuse me !? Lastly I have wondered,how it is that Judges seem to be stonewalling every attempt to find out who the man that sits in the W H is and when asked,come up with a flippant statement of “It is not your lucky day !” They should be tossed off the bench or at least be given their “15 minutes of fame” by petitions,lawsuits or general recognition.

  31. 103 marmar August 30, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Judge Lamberth Grants Defendant’s Summary Judgement Killing Obama Social Security Number Case

    • 104 Tenacity August 30, 2011 at 11:45 am

      Lamberth’s ‘Background’ comment is interesting. Early on Lamberth tried to tell us that his hands were tied from executing on a common law (citizens’) presentment as they had been written out of the civil and criminal procedures even though they are constitutionally valid. Now he says Taitz has asked him to overturn a lawful decision on the part of the SSA.

      The question that I have is, why has the counsel for plaintiff not attacked what is unlawful and continued to set these cases up for failure? .You don’t have to be a lawyer to see how counterproductive this has been.

  32. 107 Tenacity August 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    New thread folks

  33. 108 Drew August 30, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Who ‘Really’ Is this Bruce Fein? — by Sibel Edmonds

    — excerpt:

    will go as far as calling the penetration of the Ron Paul camp by Bruce Fein ‘the greatest threat to Paul’s camp to date,’ and will make a solid case for this characterization based on glaring and alarming facts; facts and concerns shared by several loyal Paul advisors today.

    Who is the real Bruce Fein? .. Why there are so many different versions of Fein — one contradicting the other? .. How do his real actions and intimate associations stand in stark contrast to Ron Paul? .. What is the most likely plot in planting Mr. Fein within Paul’s campaign?

  34. 109 Papoose August 31, 2011 at 5:16 am

    lest we forget

    November 4, 2008

  35. 110 bill August 31, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    An email I received from a fellow misguided adherent to the Constitution.Folks who believe they will be spared this and worse simply don’t understand “What goes around,Comes around”

    > Subject: UNBELIEVABLE – Loss of Rights in Pittsburgh
    > Personal Information for Pittsburgh Chief of Police, who deemed this to be an unlawful assembly, even though no where in his job description or anyone elses that allows such un American actions.

  36. 111 Durus September 1, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Thursday, September 1, 2011
    A Common Sense Definition of a “Citizen” and a “Natural Born Citizen”
    By: Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    September 1, 2011

  37. 112 Jan September 2, 2011 at 2:02 am

    This is very important tea party folks – check your state

    We are being scammed by those saying the State & Local Govt’s are broke…..

    On 6/18/2011 9:14 AM, Stan Norred wrote:

    I have been watching The State of Texas third set of books since 1997.
    Here is the latest report with over 700 Trust accounts. See page 33 for an example. In looking at some charts you will notice it says “excluding Trust accounts”.

    they never show or tell the ordinary Texan or Texian. Please wake up to the lies about broke Budgets. Budgets are all ways in the RED so they can ask for more money. You have to look behind the curtain to find the truth. You can find your Counties second set of books at your county auditors office. Then go to your ISD Auditor’s office and any other taxing agency. The same lies are all through the Corporatist system. YOU ARE BEING SUCKED DRY OF YOUR BLOOD AND SWEAT.

    TRUTH: All 50 states have been overcharging their citizens with taxes “in excess of needs” .. and hiding it in the Bank of New York in multiple accounts.

    The information about the Investment accounts are available to the Public via the State Treasurer’s Office in what is entitled, “Local Government Investment Pool”

    I did this research in 1998, because I read an article by Walter Burien about it. I have copies of my school CAFR, my county CAFR, my city CAFR and the state CAFR. I found the investment pool, and it took two attempts before the officials would give me a copy of the document. It exists. I had the State Treasurer pull 6 months of all the county’s CAFR accounts, to see the activity. I have a faxed response about the location of those funds. I am telling you something very serious, very documented, and very dangerous.

    All school districts, counties, cities, and state organizations may put aside these funds into accounts.

    in 1998, Aiken County schools had $27 million tucked away from use . . and was demanding higher property taxes for more funds. I have copies of those accounts, along with their names. Of course, once discovered, the accounts disappear, and the names of the accounts are changed when new accounts are opened. It has become a shell game.

    Legislators VEHEMENTLY deny they exist . . even when one hands them a copy of the State’s own publication.

    So . . there is a big lie by state governments told against their own people . . the states are not bankrupt. Their funds are hidden. No one has accountability for the interest made off the Bank of New York, nor do they use the money for the citizens.

    One man discovered it and his life was threatened, all three of his children have been taken from him, and he merely told the truth.

    America, your money to save the nation is over $64 TRILLION and is in the Bank of New York.

    Go get it. The following link will get you started with your search:

    Sincerely reporting, R.E. Sutherland, M.Ed./sciences Freelance Investigative Reporter since 1996

    PS – Remember to thank Walter Burien

    • 113 chris September 2, 2011 at 4:52 am

      I try to bring this to the attention of the state legislators and governor but they ignore me.
      Nothing short of outright refusing to pay taxes to states and fed gov can we overcome such corruption.

      Mr. Sutherland, please recruit your fellow investigative reporters in other states to keep exposing this ‘biggest game in town’.

  38. 114 slcraignbc September 3, 2011 at 6:47 am

    Under the acts governing “Political Refugee’s”, which was the status of the Marco’s parents when they arrived, they WERE NOT eligible to apply for Citizenship.

    As you may recall the were a number of efforts supported by the U.S. to overthrow the overthrow of Castro and to REPATRIATE the Refugee’s.

    Ergo, Marco’s parents were not, for a number of years, considered Stateless. In fact a number of Refugee’s DIDdid repatriate to Cuba and accept Castro’s Socialist Guv’mnt as their own.

    There were a number of Acts dealing with the Cuban Refugee’s including a ‘resettlement act’ meant to relieve the pressure on So. Florida’s accumulated population of them and benefits & monetary assistance was made available for many to move to other States. Marco’s parents accepted the terms of that act and moved to Vegas, if I remember correctly.

    I am personally skeptical of the dates provided for their naturalization, if it occured at all, I have found no Act or Bill that provided acces to naturalization of those that were designated as Cuban Refugee’s, which opens the possibility that his parents may have been naturalized based on their American born 14th Amendment babies Citizenship,

    The record is not clear.

  39. 115 slcraignbc September 4, 2011 at 7:00 am

    But when you follow the clues on the incomplete screen shot of the petition for naturalization you find that ALL FOUR (4) of Mario’s children are LIVING, putting the date of the petition after Veronica’s birth in 1972.

    That is supported by the info provided by the “Witness Affidavit” attached to the petition.

    He states Mario was known to him from at least 9-1-70 and below that he attests that Mario has been in the U.S. since at least 31 months since that date and at least 6 months consecutively

    That puts the date of the application in late ’72 early ’73.

    My recollection is that a report indicates that the petition was granted and Marco’s parents became Citizens sometime in 1974 when Marco was 3 yrs old +.

    The real controversy is that there is NO acknowledged “legal” definition of the Constitutional idiom of natural born Citizen which makes the provision without effect and unenforceable.

    But with that said it can also be argured that without an acknowledged “legal” definition of the Constitutional idiom of natural born Citizen there can be no “legal” occupant to the Executive Offices.

  40. 116 msbetz September 9, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Like Obama/Soetoro, Rubio is NOT ELIGIBLE!

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