Between Liberty and Tyranny

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  1. 1 drkate November 2, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Ron Paul plus ‘newcomer’ must win.

    Obama must be removed from office ASAP….Biden and the entire cabinet to resign; Entire supreme court as well…like the 11-11-11 Agenda

  2. 5 borderraven November 2, 2011 at 1:33 am

    A day of reckoning approaches.

  3. 6 jane November 2, 2011 at 3:37 am

    I hope it comes quickly.

  4. 7 Steven Lee Craig November 2, 2011 at 5:24 am

    The OWS circus’s stumbling into parks and parking lots across the country are doing a great service in exposing the empty heads of the “useful idiots” of the Socialist Left and highlighting the empty promises of the Socialist Agenda that fails everywhere it is tried…….

    ……….the “middle-ground” has been pushed to the left for many years, but now it is in a position to be pushed over the edge into oblivion thanks to the over-reaching of the ‘0’s radical regime………..

    ……….A rose is a rose and a socialist is a socialist, by any other name and any vote for the Dem0Rat Party is a vote for socialism, which ALWAYS leads to a Communist Political structure.

  5. 8 no-nonsense-nancy November 2, 2011 at 6:49 am

    Many of you here have stated that you know people who have supported Obama or the liberal regeime and are now repentant. I know of nobody. All of my family members and friends, including repubs, who were asleep 3 years ago are still asleep. I can’t make them see things my way. Is my face going to be blue forever? I’m tired of talking. I should shut up but I just keep going back for more! if you don’t hear from me for awhile just come looking at the nearest psyche hospital. Hopefully they won’t lock me away but they do think I’m crazy!

    Bill Ayers “teaching” the Occupy Chicago fans about revolution!

    • 9 Troy November 2, 2011 at 7:27 am

      Nancy, you’re wasting your time….They are not reachable.

      Yuri explains this in his video….It’s only when a military boot crashes down on them that will understand.

      Fast forward to the 4:00 minute mark and listen closely.

    • 10 drkate November 2, 2011 at 10:34 am

      Nancy, tell your whole family to just go and pound sand. They will NOT know what happened until long after you are gone…at this point don’t waste your energy on them. Be a mom, grandma, etc, but don’t engage with them on politics or try to convince them of anything except being a good parent and good kids. Their ears, eyes and minds are closed. I am sorry about that, but it has to happen…can’t tell you how many friends and ‘family’ I have lost on this and who won’t listen to reason. Remember they were educated to be ignorant of America by our own educational system.

    • 11 heather November 2, 2011 at 10:46 am

      NNN–there is only 1 thing that will wake these morons up and that is another 911 right here on US soil which they are planning–hence all of the fema camps, security, and brown shirts invading every town everywhere.

      Where I live is a pure red state and suddenly we have OWS all over the place and last night the cops pepper sprayed them to move…..

      All of this money they have printed and given out has gone to all of these so called elitists (like they want to think of themselves)–all of the bankruptcies from the green companies, all gone off shore into private accounts to be divied up into their pockets while we the people are left holding the bag. Too much money has been printed and hijacked and I would think just by this that the time for a horrendous false flag attack is approaching.

      Make no mistake about it, the time is not on our side, but the world population depends on America and her people to come to their aid. Are there people standing guard deep in an abysis ready and waiting to save us the way we have always saved the world? I don’t know….

    • 12 Sallyal November 2, 2011 at 5:32 pm

      You can’t go psycho yet. We have a date!

  6. 13 eddie h. November 2, 2011 at 8:06 am

    dr. kate / if ron paul expects to stay in the race , he better start talking birther and soon . if he doesn’t he is just going to fade away .

    • 14 drkate November 2, 2011 at 9:47 am

      Eddie, they are all going to fade away even if they do use the birther issue. At this point none of them can or will beat Obama.

      • 15 Troy November 2, 2011 at 10:07 am

        I believe any of them can and will beat Obama…..I believe “we the people” are going to come out in droves on election day to vote for ANYONE that is running against Obama….Like I said before, if the GOP runs Jack the Ripper then people will be voting for good old Jack.

        The only chance the communists, a.k.a. Dems, have is massive and unparalleled voter fraud or martial law….I suspect martial law, as I don’t believe they will be willing to rely on voter fraud since people will be watching for it like a hawk….All of these fake, organized and contrived OWS protests are “step 1” to usher in the planned martial law takeover….Around late spring or early summer next year the communists will give the nod for the “protesters” to begin the riots, looting and fire bombings….There will most likely also be a prominent person killed, perhaps a big-wig banker…..It’s at that point that martial law will be declared, elections suspended and the dick-tater-ship will officially be launched.

      • 24 Voco Indubium November 2, 2011 at 10:41 am

        RE: ” ,all going to fade away even if they do use the birther issue ”

        If the eligibility issue is voiced (by say Ron Paul) to the point where the mainstream media cannot ignore it, some conservative members of congress will break away from the Rove inspired GOP-Establishment strategy and will make noise. At that point the Judicial Branch will not be able to ignore the issue any longer.

        What is wrong with that scenario?

        • 25 drkate November 2, 2011 at 10:46 am

          Nothing wrong with that scenario! I wish it were happening or going to happen!

          But I do believe the corruption is so deep and threats have been issued all the way around that none of them will have the courage to step up. I think the R’s all care more about their jobs than the constitution. Remember the corruption of the judicial branch…if it finally gets to them, will they really rule constitutionally? I am not sure.

          • 26 Troy November 2, 2011 at 10:55 am

            The “R’s” are going to do anything because they would be shooting themselves in the foot due to the fact that they have been grooming their wonder boy, Rubio, for the presidency for so long…..I’m sure they have gone so far as to already decide the future year in which they will run him….They have every intention of making him president and I’d be willing to bet that they will succeed in doing just that.

          • 27 Voco Indubium November 2, 2011 at 11:08 am


            I fully understand your pessimistic mood and cannot disagree with what you said. You have been so courageous and put in an enormous amount of energy and work. Now to see the cause’s chance to diminish must be disheartening even more than for most of us who support the constitution.

            I think there is a small chance still – as I expressed a few minutes ago.

          • 28 Voco Indubium November 2, 2011 at 11:33 am

            RE ” Remember the corruption of the judicial branch…if it finally gets to them, will they really rule constitutionally? I am not sure… “

            Say SCOTUS is forced to rule. In my opinion these are the chances of outcome:

            If discovery shows that O was not born in HI: 100% Not nbc.

            If he was born in HI: 75% chance that he is not nbc.

            I think that the justices know that, or have a strong feeling, that this is how they would vote. That is why they are avoiding the issue. If it were an easy decision in favor of O, they would have been keen to rule confirming that O is nbc. In other words they would have not rejected rulings on the issue.

            • 29 drkate November 2, 2011 at 11:36 am

              Disagree. Think about John Roberts, and everyone up there knowingly ignoring this case for three years. No, they rule in favor of BHO no matter what, or punt it again to the ‘political question’…aka go to the voting booth. Kagan and Sotomayor will not recuse themselves, Roberts administered the oath to an ineligible candidate (and should resign)…not a chance imho.

              • 30 Voco Indubium November 2, 2011 at 11:58 am

                RE: “Disagree. Think about John Roberts… ”

                In spite of the facts you point out correctly, somehow I still have a little faith in SCOTUS (perhaps not rational) .

                Just so dificult to believe that the US is already a 100% banana republic, where an elite rules and constitution is ignored or used at the pleasure of the ruling class.

        • 31 heather November 2, 2011 at 11:04 am

          I have a little something to say–and I know everyone here will not be on board…..Rick Perry is an obama hater, and after watching and listening to him be interviewed these past couple of weeks, it is clear he is a hater.

          He really has nothing to lose by being the one to come out with this–and who knows, maybe it will work in the favor of the gop and the scotus will have to act. Regardless of what anyone thinks of him and doesn’t want him in office, if he has guts to stand, then we must support him and I personally think he does.

          I do not see RP or any of the others even thinking about talking saying anything. It will have to be Perry.

          • 32 drkate November 2, 2011 at 11:11 am

            Perry could direct the Texas republican party to challenge obama’s name on the ballot (as per jbjd’s work), and perry himself could challenge him.

            I believe Perry has the guts to stand against Obama and keep his boot on this throat…but…we’ll see if Romney is really the establishment’s choice. Perry is doing poorly in polls

            • 33 heather November 2, 2011 at 11:16 am

              Yep Perry is doing bad in the polls, I know, and he knows, said he isn’t much of a debater. I do not want Romney — don’t trust him either, he’s kind of like a squeeky wheel..

              None of the others would stand on this and remember Trump is pumping Perry with all the dirt on barry! So Perry may just find a round about way with the help of Trump. After all, Trump is very out spoken about his “not being a fan of barrys” and with his money and clout, he will sow the seed through Perry……….

              • 34 Voco Indubium November 2, 2011 at 11:46 am

                What happened with the idea that someone like WND would start a signature campaign to say that the undersigned promises to vote for a candidate that uses the nbc issue, and will not vote for anyone who ignores the constitution in that respect?

                WND is not interested?

                • 35 drkate November 2, 2011 at 11:59 am

                  I proposed that to the birther summit…they feel it could backfire.

                  • 36 Voco Indubium November 3, 2011 at 12:43 am

                    RE: “I proposed that to the birther summit…they feel it could backfire.”

                    How could it backfire? What is the concern?

                    Would they rather repeat the 2008 scenario?

                    Are they buying the Rove theory?

                    If they are, I understand your pessimistic mood.

                    • 37 drkate November 3, 2011 at 10:13 am

                      No of course they are not buying the Rove theory. The key is, what if only 500,000 people sign it? How is that a massive help to the cause?

          • 38 Troy November 2, 2011 at 11:13 am

            The only way Perry will bring it up is if he gets drunk or pilled up again and can’t control his mouth….Then he will sober up and say that he didn’t mean it and that he was just kidding.

            • 39 drkate November 2, 2011 at 11:14 am

              🙄 sheesh, the R’s are their own worst enemy!

            • 40 heather November 2, 2011 at 11:34 am

              Oh I sure hope thats not the way it will happen. I still say Trump is grooming Perry with this. I have to have something positive to think about.

              Remember Our Lord works in mysterious ways and miracles happen everyday……..because that’s what this is going to take.

              • 41 aj November 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm

                I think our Lord can do miracles too Heather-in His own time. What Perry knows and what all the Rep know is that they cannot stop the Obama Mob and their abilitly to dig up things in one’s past and amplify it with the help of the traitors in the MSM. It doesn’t even have to be true. These stupid people that support Obama will believe anything because they think they will get something for nothing.

    • 42 Voco Indubium November 2, 2011 at 10:26 am

      RE: “if he doesn’t he is just going to fade away .”

      Agree 100%.

  7. 43 eddie h. November 2, 2011 at 11:49 am

    sheriff arpaio says he wants to see the microfilm . he is telling us that obama’s birth certificate is a fake . the evidence will be forth coming . it is just a matter of time . things are just in the beginning now .

    • 44 Voco Indubium November 3, 2011 at 12:53 am

      RE: sheriff arpaio says he wants to see the microfilm

      I don’t see the breakthrough. Do you see that the DoH of HI will graciously hand over to the Sheriff the microfiche or the original paper? It could be years of court battle. And on whose side are the judges?

  8. 46 heather November 2, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Here we go–could this include the birth certificate or something Sheriff Joe is working on? One thing always leads to another when it comes to barry and criminal thugs.

  9. 47 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    A former ACORN organization–through its new front group, New York Communities for Change–is paying $10 per hour and $100 per day to homeless people to attend the demonstrations.

  10. 48 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    ACORN and these Wall Street ‘protests’ means Barry O & company are behind these leftist-hippie stunts from the start, to take the heat off of the Obamatrons and all their mounting scandals.

  11. 49 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Liberal Media Ignores Occupy Bigots, Racist & Corruption Movement

  12. 50 heather November 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    hmm- I wonder if this will open the NBC status–after all these kids have immigrant non citizen parents…..

  13. 55 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Expose these b*stards for what this OWS really is.. a distraction from the corruption at the WH.
    Pelosi deems OWS a good cause as it shifts blame from Washington DC where the rules are made to Wall Street. No doubt Wall Street tycoons are greedy. But Washington is where the rules are made.

    As OWS hits the world stage you can bet it’s ACORN by any other name. They have been going around the world inciting riots since 2/2009 for Obarfy.
    Why didn’t she call them terrorist like she did to the TEA party….damned commie she is……red is the color of her eyes.

  14. 56 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Remember what she said about TP’ers?

  15. 57 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 12:55 pm


  16. 59 Michigan Patriot November 2, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    I am not sure if everyone has had the opportunity to read the entries on the “Terrible Truth” blog but some of the pieces look to be fitting some of the narrative that is out there. Interesting reading but in the end just further mystery on just who Barack Obama actually is. Until we know the actual truth the theories will continue to grow…//Michigan-Patriot

  17. 60 Quantum Leap November 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    Research Bertha Lewis and The Black Institute.

    It’s coming peeps. The big bamaboozle and theft of the elections.

    Big Bertha is a regualar guest at the stolen WH.

    Ron Paul! Tell your peeps what he’s REALLY about. Ask people who hate TSA to vote for RP. So he wants to audit the elitist’s privately owned Federal Reserve. Big frakin deal. BUT BUT BUT they mock him ’cause of it. Stupid Obarfface obots licking an incompetent criminal minded black mans boots is not pretty. Grow up OBOTS! GROW a pair and a mind too while you are at it.

    OBOTS being fooled and screwed by an illegal alien black man whom has several names and social security numbers, AND THEY DON’T even know they are being screwed—-oh but’s that’s okay as long as he pays them the 10 bucks and hour to work his campaign and OWS. That is the ultimate in stupidity and the obots have only themselves to blame and their tan leader. Wall street FUNDED OBLAHBLAH’S CAMPAIGN AND IS BEING BLACKMAILED TO CONTINUE TO DO SO though they do not want to and do NOT WANT THIS PHONEY PRESIDENT.

    • 61 heather November 2, 2011 at 3:00 pm

      they follow him like the pied piper–right over the cliff all the while he has that sick evil grin and those hollow black evil eyes laughing at them.

  18. 62 Tiger 7 November 2, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    I think Lame cherry and Sheriff Joe are both on the right track—bho may well be an American citizen by birth, but not by Dunham and Obama. He also may have been born in Hawaii,but there will be no valid birth certificate in his name.
    That all makes sense in that he has promoted the red herring of an Obama BC and the citizenship question as a total distraction from his true background and identity—which he likely doesn’t have a clue about in truth.
    I still think the stuff will hit the fan after a GOP candidate is chosen and it becomes a two person race.—I have to hold out hope!!

  19. 63 Tenacity November 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Keep the faith everyone! We are in an endurance contest. They have thrown everything at us including the kitchen sink. They will continue to do just that…distraction after distraction. Keep educating people to the truth. The elite are nervous as the flack keeps getting heavier. They* are beginning to eat each other. Nothing is above them and they will use every old trick in the book to try and hold on. They are insane enough and deluded to believe They* can continue pulling the same stuff and people will buy it. The gig is up. Too many are now alert to the lying media and false flag shenanigans. Their persistence will result in a huge backlash and even bigger scandal. This is precisely what will awaken the silent majority that didn’t even bother voting in 2008. The only thing sustaining the elite’s momentum is the money they are throwing at it. Money is not the top motivation of successful people, it is 4th on the list and will not hold up the energy level as we enter the 4th quarter of this contest. Spend your time with people who have ears. Use the power of questions to guide people in their thinking. Don’t try to tell them things unless they invite it. Use questions to get people thinking on their own. Ask them what their concerns and observations are…listen to their answers and you will better know how to help them gain understanding of what they are ready to grasp. Give them smaller pieces of information until their eyes/minds are open. We can do this. Don’t say if so-in-so doesn’t do such-in-such, then…you are just setting yourself up for failure because the only thing we can control is our own actions. For the last 3 years, what has gone the way we think it should or would have? Work on your relationships, starting with God. 80 percent of people will only make a positive change in the context of a relationship. We will do this. You will find that by using the power of questions, strengthening your own faith, and by working on building relationships with the right people, we will not only have greater success, but more positive change will happen around you.

    I hold to this that God has told us, “Rev. 2:9 I know thy works and tribulation, and poverty (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them, which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the Synagogue of Satan. 10 Fear none of those things, which thou shalt suffer; behold, it shall come to pass, that the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried, and ye shall have tribulation ten days; be thou faithful unto the death, and I will give thee the crown of life. 11 Let him that hath an ear, hear what the Spirit saith unto the Churches. He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.”

    • 67 heather November 2, 2011 at 9:25 pm

      Called PAY TO PLAY and that is illegal. But then again, everything he does is illegal and he gets away with it–there is no challenge from a single soul—-except we the people.

  20. 68 CarrieAnne Holly November 2, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Dr. Kate,

    As an extreme isolationist who believes in no foreign entanglements whatsoever, Ron Paul would turn his back on Israel just as surely as Obama has. Not just Israel, he would never come to the the defense of any ally abroad. He proposes no foreign aid to Israel, when in fact Israel has faithfully supplied us with much needed technical expertise and valuable military intelligence. The amount of aid given to Israel is pittance compared to the support they have given us over the years.

    Nope, Newt Gingrich is our best bet. Listen to him. Give him another look. He has an encyclopedic knowledge of World History, American Politics and International Affairs. He’s not perfect, I know, but at least he’s a patriotic cuss. And importantly, he more than any other candidate would mop the floor in a head-to-head debate with Obama.

    My Best,

    Carrie H.

    • 69 drkate November 2, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      Thanks for the note…I hear you on Ron Paul and have raised this issue in this forum…I am convinced that he will have to moderate this view if he starts picking up steam.

      Re Newt–Again, no disagreement that he is smart and could smack Obama in a debate however, he is a globalist and bilderberger…burned a lot of bridges, and complete cannon fodder for the democrats–government shut down, remember?

    • 70 Jan November 2, 2011 at 10:41 pm

      CarrieAnne, if you want excellent background on Newt, all verrified and true, go to For excellent background on several candidates go to “Phony Right Wing” by Kelleigh Nelson

  21. 72 Papoose November 2, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Spread the WORD

    cOMMUNISM is dead (small c)

    tell the dead and dying occupiers/ slackers/ tools/

    yo, stupid, you’rer 40 plus years too late… we hear ya!

    we were there. heard it all the first time.

    Communism is dead. Independence rules.

    individuality is American personified. manifested. non-conformist-ism

    individual by individual; live and let live

    Rise, one by one; to each his own. Forever.


    barky sucks big time. foreigner; dumBO; home wrecker; loser;

    professional con artist

  22. 75 drkate November 2, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Excellent read:


    The perception that we will win because people dislike Obama should be put to rest now. That may help us, but it will not win it for us. All that the other side has to do is convince the public to dislike our candidate even more. We will only win if we deserve to win by making this an election of ideas, not a smirking contest. Only when there is a clear dividing line drawn down the middle and when the left is hit on the consequences of its policies over and over again, while the alternative is made clear will we win.

    • 76 Tenacity November 2, 2011 at 10:18 pm

      If Dr. Paul were to win the GOP primary, it would force the media to give him more time. Given that time, his message would be made clear and I believe he would pull independent votes in huge numbers. All the libertarians would be on board for sure. Remember, this is an endurance contest. I trust Ron Paul is in this for the long haul.

    • 77 Voco Indubium November 3, 2011 at 1:16 am

      RE: “The perception that we will win because people dislike Obama should be put to rest …”

      Agree with the above, however disagree with this:

      “Only when there is a clear dividing line drawn down the middle and when the left is hit on the consequences of its policies over and over again, while the alternative is made clear will we win.”

      Of course what the author suggests is good, but not enough. Here is an implicit presumption that the majority of voter’s decision depends on which candidate’s or party’s policies are better. Unfortunately, the voters use the TV-sound-bites to decide and thinking of the consequences of policies are for a few.

  23. 78 Ann November 2, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    This is a long video (over an hour) but well worth it! These County Sheriffs in California are taking a stand against government interference and are pledging to honor their oaths to the Constitution & to the people. This will give you some hope!

  24. 79 Drew November 3, 2011 at 2:39 am

    Fake News – Who is behind it … 3 pages: …/actors22.html …/actors33.html

    Are the “Paperclip Nazis” and their grandchildren running OWS ??

    Amazing Occupy Rant EXPOSED! – from

    • 80 dabigragu November 3, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      This guy’s got some very interesting videos and theories as well as background. Apparently he has worked in the news arena and is well aware of the games they play. Some of his videos are very thought provoking. I think he may be onto something, I know he’s made some very vocal enemies.

  25. 81 Voco Indubium November 3, 2011 at 11:40 am

    RE: “(drKate) No of course they are not buying the Rove theory. The key is, what if only 500,000 people sign it? How is that a massive help to the cause?”

    Thanks – I understand.

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