It’s the Money, Patriots!

©2011 drkate

One major way we have uncovered corruption is to ‘follow the money’ and to discover the networks of those connections…one such analysis was done on how Obama won the 2008 election using his stolen and illegally secured  campaign ‘donations’, paper dollars.

But we’re following the ‘fiat money‘, some other creature invented by the banking cartel and slyly called The Federal Reserve.  These are the cartels who have indebted you and your grandchildren with trillions in phony debt, and who, in the end, have been responsible for the deaths of millions of people in war and terror.  They created a fake system and then bought the Executive, Congress, education, hollywood, the judiciary, the military-industrial complex, and the media. Those fiat money trails expose them all, all over the world.

The real money that we should be pursuing is constitutional money, sound money that is actually back by metals, gold. The candidates that we should be supporting are those that understand this basic fact about our monetary system and the Constitution.  Ron Paul, of course, would know how to start this.

Remember the lessons of history in this struggle for our country–the cartel has always wanted control over America and  fought against liberty.

It should be a pretty clear choice (h/t Tenacity).

The 2012 election is about the Constitution, and beginning to turn back, in 2013, the crime of 100 years ago–the Federal Reserve.

155 Responses to “It’s the Money, Patriots!”


  1. 1 Jan November 20, 2011 at 12:09 am

    Dr. K, this should get the fur flying

  2. 3 Mick November 20, 2011 at 6:19 am

    Dr. Kate. I applaud your article here about debt. Debt based money on which we the people pay interest to Private Central bankers is the cause of most ills. The power of the production of money in private banks has corrupted our political system, as those w/ that power buy Congressmen, and rules are skewed in their favor.

    Ron Paul gets it wrong however that a new currency should be “backed” by gold. The value of money is based on Confidence, not on what backs it. What should be concentrated on is WHO controls it’s production (it is the Constitutional right of We the People via Congress to produce money), and control of the QUANTITY of that money, with the aim of Zero inflation.
    The problem w/ gold is that it can be manipulated in value. Ask yourself who is the holder of most of the Gold– that would be Central banks– so they could still devalue currency if gold backed by manipulating the value of gold. Remember that Gold and Silver are Ultra-manipulated markets.

    Sovereign Constitutional money need not be backed by anything but the Confidence of We the People, since we would control it’s pruduction and quantity. Money need not be backed by debt– which creates a ponzi of ever higher levels of production to pay the interest.

    Ron Paul is a faux “Constitutionalist”. He has ignored the Usurpation of the Presidency, failed to meaningfully reign in the Fed (even in his position of power on the finance committee), and believes in a gold backed system, which leaves the “Money power” of the production of money in the hands of the Central Bankers.
    The “stability” of Gold backed money is a fallacy.

    • 4 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 3:01 pm

      I am afraid some of the above statements are based upon myth rather than reality. The markets are manipulated because the intrinsic value of the rare commodities is denominated in the fiat or counterfeit currency instead of a comparative intrinsic value. The only way to achieve or approach zero inflation is to rely upon the true intrinsic value of the rarest of commodities. Precious metals, like other commodities, have an intrinsic value based upon the capital and labor required to produce it. That value has had only minor fluctuations over time compared to other commodities. All one must do is review the history of inflation when Gold & Silver were used. Inflation was almost nonexistent. All mediums of exchange approach their intrinsic value over time. It is true that the value of fiat currencies are held up by confidence, but that is deceptive and fleeting, not holding up indefinitely. The fact is that the manipulated price of gold and silver has been held down, not up.

      It is blatantly false that Dr. Paul’s Sound Money plan leaves the money power in the hands of the Central Bankers. That statement is either uninformed or willful propaganda.

      The “stability” statement is partially true (see below), but not for the reasons given.

  3. 6 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Paper money is a problem…period. The idea of being ‘backed’ by a rare commodity does not solve the problem. Sound Money IS gold & silver. You can throw a couple other rare commodities into the mix like platinum if you like, but taking delivery of the commodity must be convenient. The key is not allowing any bank to create money and having the proprietary ownership of the rare commodity with the people. Paper money, even if ‘backed’ by a rare commodity and issued by the government, still exposes The People to inflationary manipulation. Remember the term ‘right to COIN’. Also remember that THE constitutional money is gold and silver. It doesn’t say “backed by”. We have the advantage today of a digital world and can transact in fractions of a precious metal. The key is like a balance of power in that the specie vault (secured holder of the metal) and the electronic transfer provider must be independent of each other and neither should hold title to the rare commodity. The government is necessarily involved via taxing and payout to contractors in order to force the medium into circulation with an economy of scale. In other words, setting up the system at a level smaller than a State is not cost effective and thus not practical.

    I don’t want to write a book here so will respond to questions.

  4. 7 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    OT, There is a serious problem that few seem willing to address. The case of the gal at UT Austin exemplifies the problem. http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/texas-political-news/ut-gop-leader-draws-attention-anti-obama-tweet/

    Aside from the fact that ABC blew the girls comments out of perspective and sensationalized the story, the girl referred to herself as a ‘proud Zionist’. I question what she means by that comment. The evangelical Christian community has been duped into believing that the term ‘Jew’ is synonymous with Biblical Israel and “God’s chosen people”. Nothing could be further from the truth. If anything, the Kabbalists that today call themselves Jews are likely Satan’s chosen as they pray to Lucifer, like the initiate Jesuit illuminists. Look closely at Matthew 23:15 and Revelation 2:9. The Khazarian or Ashkenazim Jew are proselytes, not of Judea. The banksters that control both the current nations of Israel and the U.S. are of this proselyte Kabbalist group. They represent a religion, not a race of people. So understand, I appreciate the concept of Zion in Scripture, but believe it has little to do with the so-called Zionists of today. Remember that Satan mimics God as he has no creative ability. Satan is also famous for distorting (deceiving) concepts and terminology. I just know that the nation of Israel is not synonymous with the race of people that were God’s chosen and that those in Christ were grafted into that group which today represents His church. Today, spiritual Israel is not defined by a geographical boundary or a single geopolitical group. This problem is likened unto Red, White and Blue fever. It is not intention, but direction that determines the destination. Many intend well, but get caught up in preconceived notions and are dumbed down by false teachings. We have all fallen victim at some point. It is time we stop believing the lies.

  5. 8 Drew November 20, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Occupy WS, and Fast & Furious, and Anonymous (army of hackers) — all reported (??) to be the operations of one bloodthirsty Christian army: —

    http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=5069

    • 9 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 1:38 pm

      Drew, great article. My inside intel reported Blackwater personnel on the drilling platform in the Gulf just before the asphalt volcano pipe exploded.

      • 10 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 2:34 pm

        btw, I would not call them a Christian army. They are a Luciferian cult, Kabbalists extending back to ancient Sumeria.

        • 11 heather November 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm

          Very interesting article Drew. So much so, that what do we all believe and who do we believe? I have read the DaVinci Code and the Last Templar books and quite frankly I just blew them off as figments of their imaginations or fiction. I guess not now.

          I knew the Vatican was behind most of this money scheme and lost US gold, but I guess I just coudn’t bring myself to truly believe that heads of churches could be so ruthless to be in control of such evil.

          • 12 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 5:19 pm

            Heather, test all against Scripture. The DaVinci Code is not consistent with Scripture. According to my exegesis of Scripture, the Roman Empire is the empire of iron and clay that broke into ten and was reduced to seven. The Catholic Church is the little horn that rose out of that empire and became more powerful than all the rest, the papacy being the antichrist. It was the Roman Empire itself that held the little horn back for a time. The fatal blow to the head has already occurred and the papacy recovered stronger than ever. Watch Walter Veith’s “Mists of Time” and you will get a good grasp of this. http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/116/204-med-the-mists-of-time/

            When I say Scripture, I refer to the ‘textus recepticus’ and direct translations such as the Geneva Bible (1560 or 1599) and the 1611 King James. These were least corrupted by the Jesuits.

            • 13 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 5:38 pm

              Veith’s subsequent seminar “The Man Behind The Mask” completes that history lesson showing the flow of that Biblical prophecy. http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/117/205-med-the-man-behind-the-mask/

            • 14 heather November 20, 2011 at 6:10 pm

              Ten, not to be meant as a smart a$$ remark, but what do you do?—your knowledge mystifies me. I don’t think there’s much of anything that you don’t know. This is a compliment btw.

              • 15 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 7:58 pm

                Well, thank you, I think. 😎 I have always been a bit of a jack of all trades. My profession has mostly been real estate development and brokerage. I have also worked in the field of mineral beneficiation. My degree is in Financial Management with minor studies in engineering, real estate, business law & church history. I have audited graduate level courses on Worship which included the history of the church. I taught Bible classes for about 15 years and served as a deacon of men’s ministry and as church elder for a few years. I was a Promise Keeper Ambassador during the ’90s and conducted Vibrant Men’s Ministry Seminars for a variety of churches. I have been a GOP State Assembly Delegate and currently serve as Precinct Captain. I was a delegate to Continental Congress 2009 and subsequently elected as an officer of The Third Continental Congress. In recent years, my study has focused on the founding principles, documents and those working against God’s pecking order. This has led me to studying American history like no school teaches, especially no law school. I have become an avid student with an ever increasing appetite for truth. You are aware of some of the interviews we’ve done over the past 3 years. Am I hired?

                • 16 heather November 20, 2011 at 8:03 pm

                  Wow–only if you are applying for a job!!! lol—that’s quite a resume!!–but let me add–you are like me, over qualified!! lol–thats what I get told, so I have to pass it on.

                  I’m impressed–I thought I was a jack of all trades!

  6. 17 Jan November 20, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Follow the money – US is building bridges, guess who gets the money?

    Check this for creating American jobs.
    This is disgusting. Obama’s work plans at their best!

    Your tax dollars hard at work – and now Obama says he wants to do more of it!
    This is ABC, not a fringe web site. Got to sit through the commercial first.

    U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video – ABC News

    • 18 heather November 20, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      Since this interview was done in Sept where do we stand? Why are our senators and congress allowing this. Who stands for American workers?

      One word: Unions–sure the chinese will work cheaper–they are not union.

      What about our private sector–and Coumo is nuts when he says that we dont have enough welders, we have welding school graduates right in my city looking for work and good paying wages, and they are not unionized.

  7. 19 sky November 20, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    immigrants get housing, books,money left over PELL GRANT,WAIT GRANT,credit card for gas,child care or training.CARIBE. They even are allowed to sing our national anthem in spanish,they get everything for free then go back to their country.

  8. 21 Drew November 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Thrill Is Gone? — Matthews Turns On Obama;
    ‘I Hear Stories That You Would Not Believe’

  9. 26 heather November 20, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    OT–videos of all across the country today with massive chemtrail spraying – even new zeeland.

    http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/

  10. 27 Jan November 20, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Breaking News -SUPER COMMITTEE FAILED TO MAKE A DEAL

    • 28 Troy November 20, 2011 at 9:35 pm

      “Super (unconstitutional illegal) Committee” FAILED!!!

      There was NEVER any intention of them doing a damn thing…..It was all a dog & pony for show for the sheeple’s viewing pleasure.

      Behind closed doors they were probably watching porno flicks, playing ping-pong and telling “Knock-Knock” jokes.

      Knock, knock
      Who’s there?
      Super Committee
      Super Committee who?
      Super Committee theiving from the tax payers – Ain’t it pretty?
      No, you say?
      Well, tought titty, says the committee!!!

      • 29 heather November 20, 2011 at 10:04 pm

        you forgot the biggest of all……………………..where can we go for more money for our pockets, we cleaned out the pockets of the middle class, and most of these private investment groups—hmm guys any ideas?

      • 30 Starla November 21, 2011 at 12:43 am

        “9 More Ways The U.S. Government Is Waging War Against America”

        Saman Mohammadi
        The Excavator
        November 19, 2011

        “Part I: 9 Ways The Hijacked Federal Government Is Waging War Against The American People.”

        Excerpt:

        “By the “U.S. Government” I mean the globalist traitors and evil banksters who hijacked America in 1913, and killed President John F. Kennedy in 1963. These power hungry tyrants come from a worst place in hell than Stalin and Mao. Their political program for America and humanity is more evil and authoritarian than anything else that’s been done in history.

        The globalist terrorists who control Washington, London, Ottawa, Paris, and other Western capitals have killed upwards of two million innocent people in Iraq from 1991 to 2011. Everything in that nation has been destroyed except the people’s will to fight and resist.
        The globalist terrorists who control Washington, London, Ottawa, Paris, and other Western capitals have killed upwards of two million innocent people in Iraq from 1991 to 2011. Everything in that nation has been destroyed except the people’s will to fight and resist.

        Add the number of two million slaughtered Iraqis with three thousand Americans who were sacrificed on September 11, thousands of Afghans, and thousands of Pakistanis, Yemenis, Libyans, Lebanese, Palestinians, and, soon to be, Syrians.

        If the globalist death cult and zionist monsters attack Persia next, the death toll of the war on terror will exceed 10 million, and maybe even more.

        The evil psychopaths in Washington, London and Tel Aviv will drop nuclear bombs on Iran to save face and make Iran submit. That act alone will cause the deaths of millions of Iranian civilians.

        But it’s not just Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan, and other Middle Eastern nations that have been targeted for destruction by the globalist conquerors. America, Canada, and Mexico have also been targeted for economic, cultural, spiritual, and political destruction.

        We will all be forced to live in globalist slavery if we don’t fight back.

        Below are nine ways the globalist traitors in the U.S. government are waging war against the American people and the American Constitution. Sorry For Using Capital Letters In The Beginning of Every Word. I Hope You Will Still Read It.

        1. Mexico Has Been Bankrupted And Destabilized By The Globalist Terrorists On Purpose. They Have Also Opened The Borders To Unlimited and Illegal Immigration From Mexico. The Globalist Corporations And Technocrats Have Used The New Cheap Labor Class To Drive Down Wages in America And Bankrupt States.

        After The Damage Is Done On Both Sides of The Border, The Globalist Traitors Will Bring In A New Political And Economic System With New Draconian Laws. And They Are Making Trillions of Dollars In The Process.”

        Read More Here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/9-more-ways-the-u-s-government-is-waging-war-against-america.html#comments

        • 31 Starla November 21, 2011 at 5:12 pm

          WSTK-ITV – Sid Roth Interviews John Paul Jackson On “The Perfect Storm”

          * * * *

          Part 2 of 6 – John Paul Jackson – The Perfect Storm (Whats Happening Now In The World)

          * * * *

  11. 32 Tiger 7 November 20, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    Which media worm will be the first to turn on their Zero, —er, Hero–?? Will it be shiver leg Matthews ??? They will, tho, there’s too much hay to be made now to stay “loyal” much longer.

  12. 37 Drew November 20, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/11/18/exclusive-orly-taitz-reports-on-new-hampshire-ballot-commission-hearing/

    Second Update: — Exclusive: Orly Taitz Reports on New Hampshire Ballot Commission Hearing

    “PEOPLE WERE SCREAMING, ‘TRAITORS!’”

    Atty. Taitz has requested an emergency hearing with the New Hampshire Speaker of the House, Rep. William O’Brien to discuss the removal of New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner.

    • 38 drkate November 20, 2011 at 9:42 pm

      I say stick to the issue…moving to try and remove someone is putting the wagon before the horse imho

      • 39 Voco Indubium November 21, 2011 at 1:14 pm

        RE: wagon before the horses

        Yes, but it is good that Orly is making noise. Even if she does not succeed with this, it shows to some of these elected or appointed clowns that there are consequences, even if these consequences are minor.

        Orly is a modern day Jeanne d’Arc, fighting for the constitution relentlessly.

    • 41 sky November 21, 2011 at 1:46 pm

      saw that goldmansachs is in control of the new york stock exchange? How goverment cooks the books CAFR about Budget,one they show,and one they dont.goverment=bankers=lobiest=corp.This has been going on for a long time,this is another one of their corrupt ponzi scheme,besides the congress getting away with insider trading.Go to youtube type in Ron paul with lou dobbs the super congress is monstrous This so called super committee isnt in the constittution, This isnt just about obama,clean house in dc,capitol,and get out of these big banks and corp. that back obama,also saw that before Kennedy was elected president,they said they will let every politician running for president be able to take money out of the treasury?political vel craft

  13. 42 heather November 20, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Ten–somewhere I read that the fed was in effect for 99 yrs and isn’t 2011 or 12 the yr it expires? If so, then why can’t we as the authority given to us by our constitution demand it be dissolved?

    • 43 Tenacity November 20, 2011 at 11:26 pm

      I researched that and found no such limitation of term. Wasn’t able to find any source for that Charter limit. Asked a few other knowledgeable researcher and they came up blank too. The bill says nothing about such a charter termination or renewal.

      Here was my previous post on this:
      Tenacity October 31, 2011 at 1:09 pm
      Here is the Federal Reserve Act of 1913: http://www.llsdc.org/attachments/files/105/FRA-LH-PL63-43.pdf
      I, like SirLurksAlot had read numerous times that the FRB charter ends on December 23, 2012 which implied a 99 year term requiring renewal. First of all, I find nothing to substantiate that there was ever a time limit. Second, this was not done as a constitutional amendment and did not require State ratification which was also implied in some articles. Thus, without further verification, I must conclude that there is no such expiration date. It would appear that it could or must be ended by legislative act/repeal at any time. I have been unable to determine the origin of what may be a hoax. One clue that it is misinformation is the representation that the renewal requires a 3/4 majority vote of States. That would only be required if it were a constitutional amendment and there is no time limit on the effect of an amendment. Please advise if anyone has more verifiable data. Thank you

  14. 44 Drew November 21, 2011 at 12:49 am

    W. Cleon Skousen – The Naked Communist – pdf – (The book)
    http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2011/09/w-cleon-skousen-naked-communist-pdf.html

    The Naked Communist

    youtube.com/watch?v=dvzPSYsjBwk

  15. 46 Voco Indubium November 21, 2011 at 2:29 am

    RE: Is Hillary emerging?

    Or is this just hot air from her supporters?

    http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052970203611404577041950781477944-lMyQjAxMTAxMDIwMDEyNDAyWj.html?mod=wsj_share_email

    Will O’s ego let him to step aside?

    Could Hill beat Romney?

    Would a Prez Hill repeal Obamacare? (Remember that she had her own plan as First Lady, and Romney had it Mass. )

    • 47 Tenacity November 21, 2011 at 9:53 am

      It has been effectively argued that the Secretary of State has been at least as powerful as POTUS over the last 40 years. This may be why the Clin-Ton s (Not Lincoln) cut their deal with the seditious Leninist in ’08. The murderous thieving SoS knew she could wield more world power, cut more globalist deals, and amass more unjust enrichment with more stealth as SoS. Not only has Hitlary been complicit in the Obama crimes, but she has likely done more damage on a grander scale than the usurper over the last 3 years without having the light of truth & justice shined on her. As dark as you may see Obama’s soul, he does not compare to the wickedness of Bill’s partner in crime. You think Obama has a lot of corpse in his wake? I can honestly say that I believe this country would be safer in the hands of the usurper. One bit of truth in that propaganda piece published in that Murdoch/Saudi Prince rag is that with Rotham in there, they may be able to keep/protect Obamacare. Anyone that would believe she would repeal that nail in our coffin is Hillucinating.

      • 48 heather November 21, 2011 at 11:36 am

        well Ten anyone with half a brain would know that she would not repeal O/C—after all most of what’s in it was already in hers.

        I am hoping that those who still have hopes of her, now have become wiser and realize that she is worse than him.

    • 49 drkate November 21, 2011 at 9:54 am

      Anyone can beat Romney, even O.

  16. 53 bill November 21, 2011 at 6:17 am

    Dr.Orly Taitz and elected Reps. vs New Hampshire Board of Elections

    http://arizonateaparty.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3203237%3ABlogPost%3A348654&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post

    Then cursor down for image post

  17. 54 Mick November 21, 2011 at 6:48 am

    Tenacity,
    It is a well known fact that Gold and silver are the most manipulated markets. It is only common sense that if large banks are the largest holders of privately held metal, then they can manipulate the value thereof. Secondly, large holders of sovereign gold and silver can also manipulate. To have our currency backed by gold would still subject it ‘s value to control by bankers and other sovereigns.

    http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2010/01/fallacy-of-gold-backed-money_02.html

    • 55 Tenacity November 21, 2011 at 10:34 am

      Please tell me how you manipulate the value of a commodity in the absence of a fiat. You can temporarily fluctuate comparative value by manipulating supply and demand, but over time the commodity approaches its intrinsic value. It is the fiat that has allowed manipulation over time. The manipulation has been to hold the price of the rare commodities down in order to try and prop up the value of the fiat. Gold is not as scarce as some represent and it is not all in the hands of the elite. Anyone who has savings can buy all they want right now. The comment about subjecting its value to control by bankers is dependent upon allowing banks to create money and hold title to others’ money (e.g.: fractional reserve banking). Sound Money removes all of that. Paper money is a problem and open to manipulation whether it is ‘backed’ or not. There has been a lot written and videoed about money that is pure malarkey. That site you linked is loaded with misinformation. Oh there is some truth…just enough to cover the false information. If you want to know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, go to http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwinA.htm and read every article Vieira has published on money. That site you linked promotes a different fiat system. Vieira has stated unequivocally that he will have NOTHING TO DO with any paper money system and that it matters not who owns the bank if the banks are allowed to create money. Proprietary ownership of money must be in the hands of the PEOPLE. Constitutional money IS gold & silver. There are very good reasons for that.

      • 56 Tenacity November 21, 2011 at 11:14 am

        Everyone has been brainsoiled into valuing/pricing things/commodities/services in fiat. As the value of the fiat approaches its real (intrinsic) value of near zero, inflation happens. In other words, its not the value of the commodity that is changing, its the comparative value of the fiat. You think the price of gold and silver has changed? Here is the truth: From 1979 until 2001, the inflation adjusted price of gold & silver went down, and; from 2001 until now, the inflation adjusted price of gold & silver has been trending upwards, but has not surpassed its high in 1979. In other words, the inflation adjusted price of gold & silver is about the same today as it was 32 years ago, just a little lower. If you want to really do a comparison, look at how many loaves of bread or pair of jeans an ounce of silver buys today compared to 160 years ago. Then compare the same commodities with Federal Reserve Notes just 40 years ago. Paper money, the central bank, banks creating money and not adhering to the constitution…change these and the world is a better place.

      • 57 Mick November 22, 2011 at 6:59 am

        You still fail to see that the major holders of the Gold can manipulate it’s value, and thus the value of any currency that it is backed by. Banks and Sovereigns OVERWHELMINGLY hold the most Gold. Which part is “misinformation”? How do you reconcile the fact that R. Paul, a supposed “constitutionalist”, has allowed a Usurper, whom he could have stopped at the Electoral College? Why has he done Nothing to stop the Fed now? He is just another Banker captured Pol. Plus he has the charisma of a snarling Poodle. Unelectable, and a fraud. Frankly your Economics accumen is FAR below the writer of that article, and Viera is a law prof, not an economist.

        • 58 Tenacity November 24, 2011 at 12:20 am

          I suppose you consider Larry Parks to be beneath your economic prowess as well. Dr. Vieira is an expert on currency. You will find his great work “The Pieces of Eight” in many law libraries. He is the greatest CONSTITUTIONAL scholar I know in this country. I know of no economist that has done the in depth historical research on mediums of exchange that Edwin Vieira has completed. You would do well to know more of the person you criticize.

          • 59 Tenacity November 24, 2011 at 12:25 am

            You might want to explain your accusation of fraud and banker captured Pol. He gave an honest answer about the electoral college. Being mistaken does not make anyone a fraud. No one can stop the Fed alone and no one has done more to challenge the bankers and the Fed than Dr. Paul. Your allegations are capricious and without merit.

            • 60 Tenacity November 24, 2011 at 12:29 am

              I find it interesting that you come with the same mantra as the paid off corrupt banker controlled media about the “unelectable” garbage. The man is winning almost every poll being honestly reported and his support is rock solid and growing. You might feed your malarkey to those who believe the drivel of the lamestream media, but here? …The readers at this blog have given up believing the lies.

  18. 61 sky November 21, 2011 at 8:04 am

    WE NEED TO REINSTATE THE GLASS STEAGLE ACT,THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.WE NEED TO ELIMANATE THE PELL GRANT & THE WAIT GRANT,immigrates come over to steal from the taxpayer,knowing that they dont want to be U.S. citizens,or some of them have a child here,and are able to get more benefits.Why is there a super committee,what is a congressman job?Why cant they pay into social security?Fed=rothschilds=goldmansachs=BIS=NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE=IMF=WTO.

    • 63 heather November 21, 2011 at 2:36 pm

      ok Troy since you posted this, did you read the book? level with us–what’s in it? what should we expect to see?

      • 66 Troy November 22, 2011 at 12:21 am

        No, I have not read the book….I simply found the above video to be intriguing and thought provoking….My fellow blogger at http://heyokapatriots.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/give-thanks-with-a-grateful-heart/#comment-21409 looked into it a little bit and posted this:
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        jrCarolinas says:
        November 21, 2011 at 5:11 pm (Edit)

        Here is what is said about the book Apollyon Rising 2012 –

        Bob Ulrich of Prophecy in the News writes:

        I’m speechless. Tom Horn’s long awaited blockbuster, Apollyon Rising 2012: The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed, has finally arrived. I suspect there has never been a book written quite like this one. Shocking. Terrifying. Provocative. Edgy. Dangerous. Dare I say it could be the best book I’ve ever read? Tom Horn has been known to get a little “out on the edge,” but this book may make some people go “out on the ledge!” Seriously, this book will send a chill down your spine.For many years Americans have looked proudly at the words on our currency, “In God We Trust.” We’ve been told that America was founded by Christians seeking shelter from religious persecution. We’ve believed our nation has a Divine calling, a shield of protection that insulates us from the world’s starving inhabitants and Communist outposts. America is the land of milk and honey. That is why it hurts so much to question those four powerful words. IN GOD WE TRUST. Once you read Apollyon Rising 2012, you’ll be asking yourself the same question I am. What God are we talking about here?

        In our July 2009 issue I reviewed Brotherhood of Darkness, a book that exposes Freemasonry. A few of our subscribers took exception to some of the writings I quoted, especially the part where Masonic guru, Manly P. Hall, writes about “the seething energy of Lucifer” flowing through his hands! Or the haunting words of Masonic legend, Albert Pike, who claimed that Lucifer is the God of Freemasonry!

        They are not going to enjoy Apollyon Rising 2012. Tom Horn leaves no stone unturned as he reveals an insidious plot by Lucifer and his Masonic minions to unleash a demonic God on this world, straight out of the pit of hell! Not only does Tom tell us who this monster is, but he believes he has a pretty good idea when he will appear!

        Is that demon seed among us today? Is he a famous politician? Does he know the exact moment in time when he will step onto the world stage? Does the mystical Jewish Zohar tell us about his appearance? Is December 21, 2012, his date with destiny? Tom Horn seems to know the answers and his logic is VERY persuasive.

        Prepare to throw everything you know about America’s founding fathers out the window. Horn quotes from their writings and we see what they really believed about Christianity. One prominent founder called the cross of Christ and “engine of grief.” Another mocked the ignorance of biblical inerrancy, while another was found to have dozens of charred human bodies buried under his home! Godly Christian men? Hardly. It seems most of them had one thing in common. They were all members of the Lodge and believed America was created to be the New Atlantis, a pagan land of esoteric wisdom destined to usher in the Masonic Messiah. If America was created to be a Christian nation, where are the statues of Jesus and the Apostles? Instead, Washington D.C. is fraught with Egyptian and Greek gods, gargoyles and pagan idols. Its streets are constructed around a satanic pentagram and its centerpiece is a 6,666-inch high, 666-inch wide Egyptian obelisk called the Washington Monument!

        If you didn’t know what America’s founding fathers believed, our paper money is a dead giveaway. It revolves around Egyptian and occult deities, specifically the sun god, with the all-seeing eye representing Osiris and the unfinished capstone of the Great Pyramid awaiting its finishing touch from the Masonic Messiah.

        Tom tackles some bizarre issues head on. Did American soldiers find the remains of an ancient Nephilim in the sands of Iraq? Are there scientific efforts underway to clone these ancient giants? Is the Egyptian government conducting secret archeological digs under the Great Pyramid? What are they looking for?

        Tom Horn suggests that Nimrod became [a] Nephilim in the Bible when his DNA was altered. How did he cross the line from human to alien? And what was his reason for constructing the Tower of Babel? Will he be brought back to life in a laboratory one day and assume the role of the Antichrist? The scientific community is already working on bringing a Wooly Mammoth and Siberian Tiger back to life. Why not a satanic resurrection next? The countdown to December 21, 2012, continues. Lucifer’s son, the seed of the serpent, may soon appear. Be sure to read this incredible book!

        Hmmmm, don’t know that I agree with some of this stuff he talks about in the videos. I am going to get the book and read it.

        Video – Part 1 of 6

        • 67 no-nonsense-nancy November 22, 2011 at 8:15 am

          My father and my father-in-law and an uncle all belonged to t he Masons and they were all good people. I have a hard time beleiving that there was anything evil about what they were doing or learning. I know my father’s character and I know he would not have bought into anything satonic. He was a God fearing man and even taught Sunday School most of his adult life.

          • 68 Troy November 22, 2011 at 9:53 am

            Lower level Masons are everyday ordinary people and almost never have the slightest clue as to what the highest level Masons are up to….Don’t forget there are thirty three levels of Masonry…..I know several Masons also that are “everyday Joes”.

          • 69 sky November 22, 2011 at 10:21 am

            Have you heard of the Shriners, The masons follow GOD. The masons help people in communties in our country.There were a lot of masons murdered in France,by people in charge of that country.Troy this is anti God bs.

            • 70 Paula November 22, 2011 at 11:35 am

              No, actually it’s not. It is true. Do the research.

            • 71 Tenacity November 22, 2011 at 1:25 pm

              Sky, please do not judge this so quickly. Just as there are Christians amongst the sects, there are good people participating in secret societies and cults. Each of these secret societies and cults have an exoteric and an esoteric message/agenda. The initiates or high level insiders have a hidden agenda that is not given out to the lower level members. They also use philanthropic fronts to conceal their dark purposes. This is true of the Catholic church, tax exempt foundations, Freemasons, CFR, & a sundry of other groups. Sky, the same people that are behind the IMF, BIS & Federal Reserve are behind these secret societies and cults. The vast majority of members in these groups do not have a clue what the high level insiders are doing or believe. Some of us have been doing serious research on this and have found what Thomas Horn is generally talking about to be absolutely true. I urge you to watch the videos I posted above and you will see for yourself that things have not been as they have appeared in the past or as we have been led to believe. If you have been following my comments, you will know that I test everything against the Scriptures and absolutely believe in the gospel of Iesus the Christ, only Son of God. Please do more research before discounting what Horn is saying. I am not saying I agree with everything…I haven’t read his book, but in general what he says about the Masons, founders and Jesuits is historically factual.

          • 75 Sterling 7 November 22, 2011 at 5:49 pm

            Hi, Sis N-N-N, don’t be taken in by these intolerant drivels. If you want to know more about this venerable institution, Freemasonry, do some in depth research and initial reading of these books: “A Pilgrim’s Path” by John J. Robinson and “Is it True What they Say About Freemasonry?” by Arturo de Hoyos and S. Brent Morris. They are available at Amazon.com. Let those who denigrate your Dad’s honorable Fraternity know that the highest degree in Masonry is the 3rd degree. The 4th to 33rd degree are but degrees of appendant bodies and the Grand Lodge of the 3rd degree will determine if these appendant bodies are Satanic organizations. If so, 3rd degree masons are commanded not to join these “clandestine” organizations. Take this from a Past Master and 32nd degree Mason.

            • 76 Tenacity November 23, 2011 at 11:48 pm

              I love it when the intolerant accuses others of being intolerant. It’s too bad that John J. Robinson died shortly after becoming a Mason as it would have been interesting to see what he thought after witnessing the secrets of the Freemasons. Lets talk about drivel. Rather that pointing to the blatant deceptions of all the “Is it True What they Say About Freemasonry?” propaganda sites, I will just let some of the Freemasons speak and let the readers make up their own minds.

              One of the most hidden secrets involves the so-called fall of Angels. Satan and his rebellious host will thus prove to have become the direct Saviours and Creators of divine man. Thus Satan, once he ceases to be viewed in the superstitious spirit of the church, grows into the grandiose image. It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God. Satan (or Lucifer) represents the Centrifugal Energy of the Universe this ever-living symbol of self-sacrifice for the intellectual independence of humanity.

              Sister H.P. Blavatsky
              The Secret Doctrine
              Pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533

              ‘Illustrious’ Arthur Edward Waite 33°
              The Book Of Black Magic

              “First Conjuration Addressed to Emperor Lucifer. Emperor Lucifer, Master and Prince of Rebellious Spirits, I adjure thee to leave thine abode, in what-ever quarter of the world it may be situated and come hither to communicate with me. I command and I conjure thee in the Name of the Mighty Living God, Father, Son and Holy Ghost, to appear without noise and without ….” page 244

              ‘Illustrious’ Manley Palmer Hall 33°
              The Secret Teachings of All Ages

              “I hereby promise the Great Spirit Lucifer, Prince of Demons, that each year I will bring unto him a human soul to do with as as it may please him, and in return Lucifer promises to bestow upon me the treasures of the earth and fulfil my every desire for the length of my natural life. If I fail to bring him each year the offering specified above, then my own soul shall be forfeit to him. Signed….. { Invocant signs pact with his own blood } ” page CIV

              ‘Illustrious’ Albert Pike 33°
              Sovereign Grand Commander Supreme Council 33°
              Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry Pg. 321

              “Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the son of the morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with it’s splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!”

              Tell me S7 or is it really Sterling XIII, did you not receive your copy of Albert Pike’s “Morals and Dogma” when you attained your 32 degree? Is that not the most widely held and read book in high level Freemasonry? Are you suggesting that it is not an occult magnum opus?

              The evidence is irrefutable that the secret society of Freemasonry, just like the others, has an esoteric agenda that is as evil as anything in existence on this earth. No one has denigrated anyone’s father here. Read the comments and let them stand for themselves. Your suggestion that anyone denigrated someone’s father shows just how low you are.

              I have provided links below regarding William Schnoebelen who himself was a Mason and has testified as to what he experienced. I have also provided links to seminars by Walter Veith who had access to the esoteric writings of the Masons and has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are not what they present themselves to the public to be.

              I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not aware of the esoteric agenda. God help you if you are.

              • 77 Sterling 7 November 25, 2011 at 2:07 am

                Why, Sir Ten, you and your Christian(?) church are about to issue another “Humanun Genus” against our Fraternity.
                It is unfortunate that you accused John J. Robinson of having become a Mason at the spur of the moment. After writing “Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry and Dungeon, Fire and Sword: The Knights Templar in the Crusades “ he said: “This will be the last book (A Pilgrim’s Path) I write as a non-Mason.
                “I have decided to become a Freemason, which is why I dedicated this book to all those who will make that same decision.
                “Certainly no one can say that this is a decision into which I dashed blindly, without thinking it through. I spent years delving into the origins and history of the Craft, from the Middle Ages through the founding of our country, and more years mixing with Freemasons in every aspect of the Masonic structure. I have had long conversations with those who love it and with those who would like to see Masonry totally wiped out. I have carefully weighed the arguments for and against Freemasonry and have spent many hours tracking down quotations and scriptural references presented as “evidence” by RABID anti-Masons.
                “I took their accusations seriously, having no reason not to. As a non-Mason I was not committed emotionally to any position. On the other hand, I had some knowledge of the historical arguments, mandated by prejudice rather than logic, by which religious groups attack others. I know that some religions are structured to promulgate HATRED and BIGOTRY, but I will never believe that Christianity is one of them” (Pilgrim’s Path, p. 173).
                I am wondering, Sir, if John J. Robinson was dead wrong in his belief that your Christian Church is not one of them.
                Masonry does not mandate the reading of books by Blavatsky, Waite or Palmer, nor encourage the pursuit of sorcery, occultism or magic. (Leviticus 19:31) Instead here is a portion of a Charge I always deliver to a newly initiated 1st degree Mason: “As a Mason, you are to regard the Volume of the Sacred Law (the Holy Bible) as the great light in your profession, to consider it as the unerring standard of truth and justice, and to regulate your actions by the divine precepts it contains. In it you will learn the important duties which you owe to God, to your neighbor and to yourself.” Simply put, a Mason has to read the Scriptures thoroughly in order to learn the Truth and the divine precepts it contains and to know the duties he owes to God and his fellowman.
                Albert Pike expressed the meaning of the Latin word “Lucifer” as Light-bearer. And when he exclaimed “Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness,” he is saying that it is so preposterous and oxymoronic to give the name “Light-bearer” to Satan, the Embodiment of Darkness. When he further wrote: “Lucifer, the son of the morning,” (Isaiah 14:12) the Light that he bears UNDOUBTEDLY blinds feeble (morally weak and sick), sensual (immoral libertine) or selfish (proud and covetous) Souls (including himself).
                Morals and Dogma is not an “occult magnum opus”. Let me cite some few passages from this book and tell me if you are indeed a wise judge of what is righteous and what is evil: 4th degree Lecture: “Weigh well what it is you promise; but once the promise and pledge are given remember that he who is false to his obligation will be false to his family, his friends, his country, and his God” (pp. 111-12).
                5th degree Lecture: “Lie not at all, neither in a little thing nor in great, neither in substance nor in the circumstance, neither in the word or deed . . . A Perfect Master must avoid that which deceives equally with that which is false” (p. 116)
                6th degree Lecture : “We are not born for ourselves alone; and our country claims her share, and our friends their share of us. As all that the earth produces is created for the use of man, so men are created for the sake of men, that they may mutually do good to one another . . . sometimes by receiving, sometimes by giving, and sometimes to cement human society by arts, by industry, and by our resources” (p. 120).
                7th degree Lecture: “Speak kindly of your erring brother! God pities him; Christ has died for him; and Heavens’ spirits are ready to welcome him back with joy. Let your voice be in unison with all those powers that God is using for his recovery” (p. 134).
                8th degree Lecture: “Scarcely a Masonic discourse is pronounced, that does not demonstrate the necessity and advantages of [enlightened faith], and especially recall the two constitutive principles of religion, that make all religion – love of God, and love of neighbor (p. 138).
                9th and 10th degrees Lecture: The true Mason identifies the honor of his country with his own. Nothing more conduces to the beauty and glory of one’s country than the preservation against all enemies of its civil and religious liberty” (p. 156).
                21st degree Lecture: “. . . let [the Mason] build no Tower of Babel, under the belief that by ascending he will mount so high that God will disappear or be suppressed by a great monstrous aggregate of material forces, or mere glittering, logical formulas; but, evermore, standing humbly and reverently upon the earth and looking with awe and confidence toward Heaven, let him be satisfied that there is a real God; a person, and not a formula; a Father and protector, who loves, sympathizes, and compassionates, and that the eternal ways by which He rules the world are infinitely wise, no matter how far they may be above the feeble comprehension and limited vision of man “ (pp. 338-39).
                26th degree Lecture: “And if men were all Masons, and obeyed with all their heart her mild and gentle teachings, that world would be a paradise; while intolerance and persecution make of it a hell. For this is the Masonic Creed: BELIEVE, in God’s Infinite Benevolence, Wisdom, and Justice: HOPE, for the final triumph of Good over Evil, and for Perfect Harmony as the final result of all the concords and discords of the Universe: and be CHARITABLE as God is, toward the unfaith, the errors, the follies, and the faults of men: for all make one great brotherhood” (p. 531).
                I could go on citing passages of the Morals and Dogma which are used as lectures of all the degrees and let me give you one more: 29th degree Lecture: “The law has no power to strike the virtuous, nor can fortune subvert the wise. Virtue and wisdom, only, perfect and defend man . . .[Virtue protects us when we are unarmed; and is an armor that we cannot lose, unless we be false to ourselves. It is the tenure by which we hold of Heaven, without which we are but outlaws, that cannot claim protection. Nor is there wisdom without virtue, but only a cunning way of procuring our own undoing (p. 803).
                Happy Thanksgiving!

        • 78 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:17 am

          Thanks Troy for the info.

  19. 80 heather November 21, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/20/curl-obamas-growing-disdain-for-american-worker/

    omg–will somebody please arrest this criminal and lock his and his up! please — do the world a favor.

    • 83 no-nonsense-nancy November 22, 2011 at 8:43 am

      On Saturday our sky was very blue but FILLED with chemtrails. That was the worse I have ever seen our sky here. Sunday they were all dispersed and it was very hazy with light rain at the end of the day. It has been dark and rainy ever since. Those dirty ba*****s.

      • 84 heather November 22, 2011 at 9:01 am

        NNN–they sprayed here so heavily for the past week, that our skies and weather have been horrible. It’s been raining, pouring, dark cloudy skies for days. The weather people never mention why, only what they want to see.

        Up until 09 I never had a problem with breathing, since they have been spraying, my breathing is horrible, almost to the point where I can’t catch a breath at all. I have also noticed my up the street neighbors have the same problem….but of course when I mention chemtrails, the husband was so abusive to me, I just walked away. Why is it so hard to admit that a female is right. Needless to say, his verbal abuse has changed our relationship and I don’t want to be around them. I stay my distance.

        These chemtrails have gotten worse since barry usurped our WH, and now are everywhere—a big part of the deficit–on these.

        • 85 Paula November 22, 2011 at 11:37 am

          Heather, I have encountered the same thing with my male neighbors, as well. Never have I had breathing problems until 2010.

  20. 86 heather November 21, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    thanks bill clinton–what else did you sell you rotten pos!

    • 87 Troy November 22, 2011 at 12:13 am

      The man that Alex Jones encountered while shooting the above video is a perfect example of what Tenacity refers to as someone having a case of “Red, White and Blue Fever”…..It’s a very common illness suffered by an enormous percentage of the American citizenry / sheeple.

      • 89 bill November 22, 2011 at 8:39 am

        Yes Troy,I’m glad the detractor was wearing something in “baby blue” so everyone will know who the rightful owners of the “Grand Canyon” are. It may help identify these folks to someone who may one day decide to have a “meeting of the minds” over the true ownership.cheers

    • 90 jrCarolinas November 22, 2011 at 6:24 am

      You mean thanks Jimmy “peaNUT” Carter – he was president in 1979.

      • 91 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:20 am

        true–I did take note to the date on the sign 1979–but clinton worked behind the scene just like they all do, in the cover of darkness. what evil evil people.

  21. 92 missy November 21, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Things just seem a little too darn convenient. Check out this article posted below that is on on Drudge today. Seems like a lot more of our farmers will be selling out to Monsanto thanks to MF Global. In the meantime, Yahoo is running a front page story sympathizing with the Iowa people who just need to sell their farmland. Do they all work together?
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/22/us-mfglobal-futures-idUSTRE7AL06I20111122?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

  22. 93 heather November 21, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204443404577051983133404566.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

    hope he’s not a day late and a dollar short……….good luck — he should have done this 3 yrs ago.

  23. 95 Tenacity November 21, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Here’s the message from my friend:

    Better watch this short video before YouTube pulls it!!! Since Ron Paul’s TOP PRIORITY as
    president is to END THE FED which—as with the MainStreamMedia (MSM)—sadly is owned and operated by the Satanic Rothschild Banksters…He will naturally be marginalized at every opportunity.
    But he will WIN ANYWAY, because of his overwhelming support on the uncensored free Internet, where is logical message of Liberty, Truth and Integrity dominates all other candidates COMBINED!!!]

    Subject: Another Ron Paul Landslide Victory!!!

    Guess what…when I went to the link they provided, it said remove by the user and I had to do a search to find a link that worked.

  24. 96 Jan November 21, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Bill O’Rielly did the same thing on FOX

    • 97 Troy November 22, 2011 at 12:09 am

      Yes, O’Really?😉 went on an all out Ron Paul bashing session this evening…..I would love to see an honest CONSTITUTIONAL government reemerge and all of the current MSM outlets get their licenses yanked and kicked off the airwaves….If that isn’t feasible, then just shoot down their freakin’ communication satellites from out of earth’s orbit….They launch new satellites, then shoot those out of the sky too!

      • 98 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:22 am

        I despise OR–cannot stand him–one arrogant sob.

        • 99 bill November 22, 2011 at 9:00 am

          Yes Tenacity,Jan,Troy and heather.I have suggested many times that the citizens could put a stop to the lying,scheming MSMs but for some reason ?,I can’t get a hearing ? I suppose the “programmed trash,commercials and sports programs are
          just to wonderful to give up until the MSMs get rid of their case of “lock jaw”.All I have left to say is “May they wear their chains proudly !”

  25. 101 Drew November 22, 2011 at 12:45 am

    Kids are showing up with burns and getting sick after coming in contact with (radioactive?) rain water in Michigan — Nov 20 —

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1708562/pg1

    The Video from Nov 16: — http://video.godlikeproductions.com/media/files_flv/user100/522228762dc00.flv
    _______

    Architect of Fukushima’s Reactor 3 warns of massive hydrovolcanic explosion

    http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/architect-of-fukushimas-reactor-3-warns-of-massive-hydrovolcanic-explosion/

  26. 103 Tenacity November 22, 2011 at 10:32 am


    message from my friend:

    Why our knowledgeable forefathers fought against the ‘central bank take-over’ of America for decades. Now you will see how the banksters’ mafia takes over the world by risking nothing but paper printed out of thin air.
    Who in D.C. – besides Ron Paul – has the fortitude to speak up like Farage has in Europe?
    Janet

  27. 107 saskamare November 22, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Why are you Ron Paul supporters ignoring his comments about 9/11 (the US “asked for it”) and Iran (“they don’t have a bomb, it’s OK if they get one”)? I don’t get it. Please explain. Thanks.

    • 108 drkate November 22, 2011 at 1:01 pm

      It is not ignoring the comments, its understanding them in the proper context, which the media never provides for Dr. Paul.

      If the NWO, banking cartels, and follow along US government didn’t create terror, wars, invade countries without constitutional authorization, conduct assassinations, then we might not have had a 911. This even applies if the US government did the deed or covered it up. WE might not have had so much hatred from Iran, although there are a lot of people who do hate liberty. As far as nuclear weapons go, who ARE we to say no one can have them except the US, Britain, France, Pakistan, North Korea, etc etc etc.

      If you live by the sword, which our current administration is doing, all the way back to Bush I, you die by the sword.

      • 109 heather November 22, 2011 at 1:17 pm

        I agree completely. Who are WE to tell the world what they can and cannot have or do. Except, we pay them all off, some with cash and others with aid–we need to stop with the pay offs and the hand outs and worry about our own people and country.

        We all know that the other govt criminals take what they want and throw the crumbs to the people. A blind person can see that.

        • 110 saskamare November 22, 2011 at 1:36 pm

          Is it OK is Paul runs with a third party in 2012? Are you a member of the “Blue Republicans”? What do you think about those that say Paul is really a “closet leftist”? Could that be possible? Frankly, I still don’t see how he’s a “True Conservative”.

          • 111 drkate November 22, 2011 at 1:55 pm

            I just think that the Republicans don’t want to win this…they’d rather have Obama, and Rove would rather have Jeb Bush in 2016. Romney, all of them are sure losers to Obama, it seems. The republicans will not let Paul have the nomination unless we vote him in in the primaries and make him. The Tea Party has been compromised so will vote the politicians back in.

            I am a constitutionalist and want Obama defeated. The flip side of the question you asked, are you really a conservative if you never even mention the constitution? Paul is the only person who answers the questions from the standpoint of the constitution, which is the law of our land. The bankers hate him because he knows about them.

            The junk about Paul being a closet leftie is, well, junk. What is interesting is that the left wants the wars over…Paul is the only one who will do away with that. No more unconstitutional wars or adventures. Sound money. no debt. small government. jobs. develop our own resources. stop giving away our money. Those are supposed to be ‘conservative values’.

            Generally here at this blog we believe a third party will split the vote. But this is a rare time, maybe a third party could make it and have more effect on splitting the democrat vote–those who truly want this war and spending to stop and who won’t accept being felt up at the airport.

            • 112 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:22 pm

              Coudn’t agree with you more Dr Kate on your opinions above and I just said today that Ron Paul needs to run as an independent and maybe Trump should jump in as an independent and give choice and voice to the people.

              If both ran as independents, the republicans would lose for sure and so would barry–Ron Paul has toooo many followers of all ages. Adding Trump would just piss of the gop and the dems on general principals and barry would have 2 groups to go after–he would be lost not knowing which one to take out first. Hey, at this point anythings a go.

              • 113 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:30 pm

                I still vote for Ron Paul and may just write him in since we have paper ballots!

                Ron Paul is a genuine statesman with love for America and our constitution and has nothing to really gain by standing there during these debates and being humiliated and hated and he knows it. He has said he knows the media hates him, but then so does the gop and yet he doesn’t back down.

                This is where the republicans needs to stand with him, as he is their only chance to win in 2012 and they need to push him instead of allowing the media to push romney who like barry stutters to much.

                We have to overtake these media and squash them so we the peoples vote is counted this time with no cheating.

          • 114 Troy November 22, 2011 at 1:56 pm

            Paul is a fiscally conservative Libertarian….He is running on the Republican ticket because third parties are not allowed to have any legitimacy in this rigged two party (really one party) system…..Paul has NEVER said that he will run on a third party ticket…..That is all propaganda being invented and spewed out by the government run MSM….In fact, Paul HAS came out and publicly stated that he WILL NOT run on a third party ticket…..Closet leftist???…..Sheesh!…..He is a libertarian, just like Beck, Judge Napalitano, Stossel, etc., etc..

          • 115 Tenacity November 22, 2011 at 2:00 pm

            Stop listening to what the globalist shills are trying to make you believe and listen to the man himself…not the stinking sound bytes, but his thorough explanations. Dr. Paul believes in the constitution and he is doing his level best to cut through the lies we have all been told by the Luciferian bankster globalists and their hired guns in the media, courts & education system. I prefer the term “statesman” and no one has a more conservative voting record than Dr. Ron Paul. He is running for the GOP nomination…all the other rhetoric about 3rd party is just a way to marginalize THE PEOPLE’S CHOICE and distract from the solid message of the ONLY STATESMAN running.

            • 116 sky November 22, 2011 at 2:33 pm

              I wish Soros was standing out side the whitehouse… he needs to be gone,and the rothschilds,goldman sach ceo,obama would be next in line.All of this corrupt money needs to be frozen.

  28. 117 Troy November 22, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Farage gives the NWO boys a giant middle finger right to their faces….Wooohoooo!!!!!!!

  29. 118 Troy November 22, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    A medley of oral ass whoopins’…..I like this guy’s style!….The ass whoopin’ on his own Prime Minister, just before the 4:00 minute mark, is especially sweet!

    • 119 heather November 22, 2011 at 1:27 pm

      Kudos to Nigel but this is nothing but a dog and pony show for the citizens–same as here when they have UN meetings. All dog and pony shows.

      • 120 bill November 22, 2011 at 4:58 pm

        Just for the record heather I agree ,I see all this talk as nothing but “beer joint bravado”.I remain like the old woman who kept hollering “Where’s the Beef !?!?”🙂

  30. 121 Troy November 22, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    http://heyokapatriots.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/give-thanks-with-a-grateful-heart/#comment-21438
    Katie says:
    November 22, 2011 at 3:18 pm (Edit)

    Speaking of ass whoopins’ and someone with great big brass ones on this truth teller!!!

    h/t Katie😀

    • 122 heather November 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm

      Barry can never be a NBC — simple and plain–never…his father is Kenyan–how difficult is that for these politicians to get? Are they stupid–I guess so.

    • 123 Troy November 22, 2011 at 1:47 pm

      The radio show host got it wrong with his statement at the end of the above video….He said, “If it turns out that Obama is a citizen then we (meaning the “birthers”) will drop it.”…..It has never been a matter of whether or not he is a citizen…..We all know that he is a “citizen”…..What we all also know is that he is NOT a “natural born Citizen” which is a constitutional requirement for him to hold office….I guess what the host meant to say is, if Barry was born a citizen within this country and not in Kenya or somewhere else….Sheesh!…..The dude is NOT a NBC and can NEVER be one….He is freakin’ ineligible and that’s that!

        • 125 Tenacity November 22, 2011 at 2:49 pm

          Troy, is that a British or Indonesian citizen? The only way he appears to be a citizen would be as a dual citizen that was born on U.S. soil. However, Indonesia apparently does not allow dual citizenship and to my knowledge Barry has never naturalized back into the U.S. So we know that he is not and can never be a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ born of citizen parents by his own testimony. However, I do question whether he is even a citizen for numerous reasons. In fact, I question if he has ever been a U.S. citizen. We really don’t know who his parents are or where he was born. We only know what he has told us which makes him NOT a NBC and what unsubstantiated evidence that has been turned up. The only thing we know for sure is that he is a fraud and not eligible.

  31. 126 Troy November 22, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    I guess he decided not to sing so as to get his sentenced reduced…..Barry will pardon him on his way out the door after the 2012 election.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ‘Political fixer’ Tony Rezko gets 10 years
    Obama pal: ‘I come to ask for God’s forgiveness and the court’s mercy’
    ——————————————————————————–
    Posted: November 22, 2011
    12:37 pm Eastern

    © 2011 Chicago Tribune

    Antoin “Tony” Rezko was sentenced today to 10½ years in prison for extorting millions of dollars from firms seeking state business or regulatory approval while he was a top fundraiser and adviser to then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

    Rezko’s daughter broke down sobbing in the courtroom as U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve handed down the sentence.

    Rezko apologized to the judge, saying, “I come to ask for God’s forgiveness and the court’s mercy.”

    Read the whole story from the Chicago Tribune.

    Read more: ‘Political fixer’ Tony Rezko gets 10 years http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=370337#ixzz1eTGHoOEd

  32. 128 sky November 22, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    they always go to god as an excuse to have done corrupt business,then they do the same thing over again,I wouldnt be playing this game with GOD,he knows.Wonder what the punishment would be in singapore?

  33. 129 heather November 22, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    http://newsinfo.nd.edu/news/27476-walking-through-doorways-causes-forgetting-new-research-shows/

    who died and left these researchers any brains–and we the people pay for grants for crap like this—throw them all out–all phoney.

  34. 130 cedartree November 22, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    What are citizens left with?
    Calling Congress/Senate is a JOKE. They are lawless and laugh at constituents, give them the proverbial finger.
    The States are corrupt, look at the New Hampshire and Arizona Secretary of State’s office, others too, Texas, Alabama, Hawaii, openly violating their own laws for balloting.
    The judiciary is packed with criminals (see below).
    The media is bought off, even FOX won’t touch the Supreme Court’s ruling that Obama is not even a legal president.

    But can you imagine? Imagine ANY member of congress getting up and stating…ermmmm sorry but Obama is not even a Constitutional president, he’s a fraud, a felon, not a natural born citizen, and we can’t even say he’s a naturalized (statutory) citizen. Can you imagine the breakdown? Well SO WHAT? Look at Occupy, they’re burgeoning to riot and they don’t even know why, they plan violence…at least give the lawful population a way to re-seize the country, no matter the personal cost.
    We’re lacking in heroes, and only a newcomer to Congress can possibly attack this issue.
    _________

    Kagan has removed all 8 eligibility cases as either Solicitor General or Supreme Court Clerk (before un-auguration).
    The judiciary is filthy criminal corrupt, even Thomas admits they just “evade” the issue.
    Why can’t SCOTUS adjudicate or hear?
    The reason why none have been heard is that the Supreme Court has already ruled Obama not eligible to be president (1875, Minor v. Happersett and Luria v. U.S., 1913). Unless these were overturned, the SCOTUS holdings stand and Obama is not eligible to be president of the United States. He is only a usurper.

    Check out any of these websites for the Supreme Court Docket to search for some of these hearings and surprise, surprise, Elana Kagan was the attorney representing Obama.

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm

    http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm

    Review for those new to this (if there is anyone)…
    The US Supreme Court has ruled by precedent holding that Obama is ineligible as POTUS.

    First, the requirement per the US Constitution is that the president must be a natural born citizen.
    Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution
    “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”
    What is a Natural Born Citizen? The Supreme Court has Ruled:
    Minor v. Happersett, 1875
    “At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”
    Luria v. U.S., 1913
    “Under our Constitution, a naturalized citizen stands on an equal footing with the native citizen in all respects save that of eligibility to the Presidency.”
    Until Minor v. Happersett is overturned, the SCOTUS holding stands: Obama is not eligible to be president of the United States. He is only a usurper.

  35. 136 Troy November 22, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    Tonight there is going to be another televised GOP debate.

    I’m going to make a prediction: Instead of Ron Paul getting his usual 89 seconds of speaking time, tonight he will be given a whole lot of speaking time – probably more than the rest of them….Why, you ask?….Because tonight’s debate is going to focus on “Foreign Policy” and they figure that is where Ron Paul is weakest….They are going to try to feed him some rope and let him hang himself….They are going to try to finish him off….I hope that he is well prepared and turns the tables on them.

    That is my prediction.

    • 137 Troy November 22, 2011 at 7:04 pm

      Ok, sitting here watching the debate, which I pretty much can’t stand to do, I will say that my above prediction was wrong….Paul still gets very little time and what they are doing instead is feeding him loaded questions that no matter how you answer it will be unpopular….Wolf Blitzer will ask Paul a question that is about a full paragraph long and then ask the next candidate a condensed version of the question….In other words, Blitzer will ask Paul a question that is specifically tailored to Paul in order to get a specific response….He then asks other candidates a much more simplified version of the same question.

      • 138 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:07 pm

        Troy, I switched back and forth from my only shows I watch on tv to exactly what you said. I saw Paul just standing there waiting for a question, when Blitzer went from Newt, to Perry, Romney and Santorum.

        Blitzer was totally predictable in his actions.

    • 139 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:10 pm

      From the bits and pieces I saw–Newt more or less agreed with Paul on Iran and Newt knew exactly what Blitzer was up to–did ya catch the looks Newt kept giving to Blitzer? They weren’t kind.

  36. 140 heather November 22, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    One thing that really irks me about these debates and the questions being thrown out — These people are of 1 party and Bachmann, Santorum, Hutsman, Romney are dividing this party — all trying to score points for a win–do they not realize that we already know who we want and yet they stab each other in the back the same as barry does to everyone.

  37. 141 Troy November 22, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    November 21, 2011 at 3p ET: TLAF Radio With Terry Lakin and Jack Cashill. Terry’s discharge is complete and today he begins to share openly many of his thoughts, concerns, and plans.

    After two years, a court martial, imprisonment, loss of his job, pension, and position, Terry’s discharge is complete. In this week’s show he begins to share many of the events and issues that were previously off limits. Be sure to listen.

    Click on the arrow to start the audio
    http://www.terrylakinactionfund.com/tlafradio/148-tlafradio20111121.html

  38. 145 no-nonsense-nancy November 22, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Newt thinks that the child labor laws are “stupid”. He would fire all the school janitors and have the kids clean up the schools!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/21/newt-gingrich-child-labor-lobbyist_n_1105178.html

    • 146 heather November 22, 2011 at 9:30 pm

      Well now NNN—it would teach the kids accountability and responsibility, something they do not learn at home anymore. What they learn is entitlements and most kids today don’t even know what respect is.

      Heck when I was in school (we had to walk 5 miles to school in all kinds of weather—lol just kidding) in upstate NJ the principal had a spanking machine in his office and if one disobeyed, they got it regardless of parents authorization — and this was a public school.

      We had detentions, suspensions, extra work for acting out in class–we had all kinds of discipline that isn’t heard of today.

  39. 147 Ann November 22, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    “The States are corrupt, look at the New Hampshire and Arizona Secretary of State’s office, others too, Texas, Alabama, Hawaii, openly violating their own laws for balloting.”

    Hold up now, I’m from Alabama and I don’t know what law they’re violating? I tried to find something in the State law that said a candidate’s certification must state they’re Constitutionally eligible and could find nothing of the sort. Of course, I know it shouldn’t have to be a LAW but unfortunately, there’s room for corruption if it’s not in writing. I’m still researching that by the way.

  40. 148 Ann November 22, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Just heard on the news that the DOJ is suing yet a third State, Utah, over it’s Immigration Law! What the h*ll do these jerks think they’re doing?!

  41. 149 Ann November 22, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    More rumblings from the Trump camp. Surprise, surprise, he’s promoting his new book and thinking about running as an Independent. Tell me he’s not that stupid!

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/11/22/trump-threatens-to-spend-millions-on-a-presidential-run/tab/comments/

    • 150 drkate November 22, 2011 at 10:55 pm

      I wonder if he’ll run as a democrat…or who he really wants as president so that his running would assure that…like Perot?

      • 151 heather November 22, 2011 at 11:03 pm

        Well Trump dispises barry, so I’m thinking either on the gop or ind ticket–but Trump is full of tricks, so maybe as a dem–and wouldn’t that be a challenge for barry and the thugs! lmao–that would bite barry right where the sun don’t shine!

  42. 154 Tenacity November 23, 2011 at 12:18 am

    I watched tonight’s debate at Ron Paul’s Colorado Headquarters. They had caucus training before and after the debate. The office crew was quite young and a good solid group. Good crowd packed the house. It was like a melodrama watching their faces as the villains spoke and cheers when the hero finally got his chance. ooooo, aahhh, boooo, yea! Fortunately there were a few savvy folks that wanted to talk, otherwise the debate would have bored me to tears. Don’t believe there were any Mormons present.

    Have any of you checked out the Mormon prophecy that many believe Bonneville Bain Romney is destined to fulfill? They refer to the Mormon Plan for America or The White Horse Prophecy. It involves the constitution being weakened to just surviving by a thread and then a Mormon political savior becoming king of America and saving the constitution. Here is one link you can check out but if you really want to find out about this, check out William Schnoebelen’s “Mormon Temple of Doom” in DVD or book.
    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2226.cfm

  43. 155 Tenacity November 23, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Ron Paul Wins Another Republican Straw Poll in North Carolina

    Paul received 52% of the votes, over 30% more than his closest challenger, the former Congressman Newt Gingrich did. Gingrich received 22.1% of the vote. Following Gingrich was Herman Cain with just 13.3%, Mitt Romney with 3.6% and Michelle Bachmann with only 2.8%.

    http://www.imassera.com/ron-paul-wins-another-republican-straw-poll-in-north-carolina/2415085/


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