Conservatives and the Constitution

©2011 drkate

How can you be a conservative and never mention the Constitution?

The Tea Party is all for limited spending, small government, and supposedly states rights, and only mentions the Constitution in the context of a ‘balanced budget amendment’, which ignores the true danger of calling a Constitutional Convention, and ignores the fact that if Congress was acting according to its limited enumerated powers, we would not need to alter the Constitution to control members of Congress.  And the Tea Party endorses everyone but the one who makes the Constitution a center-piece of his campaign, and refuses to address the usurpation of the Presidency by Obama and the democrats.

And we continue to allow Congress to determine what the Constitution means, and their unelected and irresponsible staffers, always protecting covering their collective asses on allowing the criminal usurpation of our government. Commander Kerchner writes:

To attorney Jack Maskell, of the Congressional Research Service (CRS), the master of the false premise in his efforts to protect Obama in his writings for Congress:

Adjectives mean something.  A “Citizen at Birth” is not logically identically equal to a “natural born Citizen at Birth”. Barack Obama may be a ‘Citizen of the United States’  but he is not a ‘natural born Citizen of the United States’ and does not meet the constitutional standards as to who can be the President and Commander in Chief of our military:  The natural born Citizen clause in our Constitution is a national security clause inserted into our Constitution by John Jay and George WashingtonThe natural born Citizen clause is still important and worth protecting. 

How is it possible to claim yourself  to be a “Patriot”, and not be demanding a return to constitutional governance?  Yes, of course we know there has been a concerted effort to destroy American principles and mis-educate, but even those of us who are awake seem paralyzed…between time, if you will, between the past and the future.  Our present circumstances demand we take action at all levels, we look for leaders and it always ends up with the person you see in the mirror.

We need a plan and must be willing to take that long march back to the Constitution…as much as the progressives have shown their willingness to be patient in their quest to destroy America, we must show equal tenacity in our return to sanity and the sanctity of the Constitution.  We all must lead.


(From Red Beckman, “Walls in our Mind”, Segment 5)

If you are an adult American; If you have been educated in a government school; If you are a member of an organized, IRS approved, corporate church; If you watch CBS, NBC, ABC television news and read a daily paper, you probably didn’t know there are two kinds of patriotism.  The two distinct forms of patriotism are totally opposed to each other and can never peacefully coexist.

True patriotism is people giving their allegiance to their country.  False patriotism is people giving their allegiance to a government.  In the last segment, we addressed the fact that the junk heaps of history are the final resting place of many governments.  Nations continue to exist even after many changes of government.  The Romanian dictator, who was executed on Christmas Day 1989, was a very powerful man until the army switched allegiance.  Politicians cannot control a government unless they have the allegiance of a nation’s people. This is why politicians try to convince people that nation and government are one and the same.

In an earlier segment you read that our present government is not our lawful government. Registered voters sitting on Grand Juries and Trial (Petit) Juries have given their allegiance to politician controlled government. Politician created laws, statutes, codes, regulations, opinions, acts and decisions not in the best interest of our country, are being enforced by voters on juries.  Our lawful government was subverted and changed because jurors gave their allegiance to government, rather than their country.

A true patriot is one who is guided by truth and facts (knowledge). A false patriot is controlled by the lies which he has believed. In segment one, we defined the difference between believing and knowing. We have been taught, all our lives, that our government was to be controlled by majority vote. The true patriot knows that politicians can control majorities with false information.  Politicians tell lies the majority want to believe. This is what party politics is all about. The party that promises the most goodies, from the public treasury, will usually find the most believers (voters). Remember, it was a majority vote that put Adolph Hitler into office as chancellor of Germany. Hitler was a powerful politician because there were far  more false patriots than true patriots.

False patriotism is a source of power, for politicians, in the United States of America. Deficit spending, confiscatory taxation, inflation, deflation and no-win wars, is the price we pay for misdirected patriotism. Viet Nam and Korea were politicians’ wars, which would not have happened if our lawful government had been functioning.  Over one hundred thousand of our best young men were denied their freedom to live, love, propagate, work, retire and die a natural death.  Both Korea and Viet Nam wars were the result of false patriotism.  Those two wars made false patriots rich but our country was damaged severely. Those politician caused wars were not in the best interests of the United States of America. We have Americans who believe they are free because politicians told them they are free. The dead and maimed, from Viet Nam and Korea, are the evidence that proves we are not free.

True patriots know the federal individual income tax is an unconstitutional tax which was created to control people. Fear is the weapon used by tax collectors, when you have a politician controlled government. Thousands of Americans have committed suicide because of IRS-psycho-terrorism.  The KGB were famous for their activities and they murdered great numbers.  The IRS is more scientific and subtle. If they can mentally damage an individual and cause an individual to take their own life, it becomes the perfect crime. It is for sure there will be no prosecution of the responsible IRS agents. A government judge, government prosecutor and twelve false patriots on a jury are not going to find an IRS agent guilty of anything. The psychological damage caused by fear can be more deadly than a bullet between the eyes.  Fear on the backs of a nation’s creative and productive people is not in the best interests of the people and nation.

A true patriot will not be terrorized by the IRS. Many true patriots have been sent to prison by false patriots, sitting on juries in tax prosecutions. Most victims of such prosecutions, use jail time to become better educated and better Americans. It was false patriots in Nazi Germany and Communist Russia who arrested, and many times, executed true patriots. The Gestapo, KGB and the IRS were created, by politicians, to control people’s minds.  People, who give their allegiance to government, will not protect themselves or their neighbor from the IRS because they believe the IRS is a necessary evil.

In a later segment, there will be more said about the unconstitutional income tax.  Hopefully you have noticed how everything you have read to this point is focused on what we have stored in our minds.  Minds that have become disabled by belief, of false information, may need shock treatments.  Stay tuned, there is more to come.

For many, the journey to awareness began will Russo’s film, “From Freedom to Fascism”, also captured on this site’s video links.

190 Responses to “Conservatives and the Constitution”

  1. 1 heather December 1, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    Ot–I know this is way off topic but I had to post if before it was killed. Here is the typical opinion of all entitlees.

    • 2 Jan December 1, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      Well, somebody need to be held accountable, after all the babies are a gift from God. She sounds like obat, it’s Bush’s fault.
      Good Lord !!!!!

  2. 3 Jan December 1, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Dr. Kate, thanks for this one. I have been writing about this for so long I’m blue in the face.
    People have turned the Government in to their God, and refuse to think for one minute that the Government is bad.

  3. 4 sky December 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Corrupt FED=Council OF FOREIGN RELATIONS [corrupt financial relations]

  4. 5 Tenacity December 1, 2011 at 2:27 pm

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  5. 6 heather December 1, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    When the tea party first took off in 2008 it was about the govt and the full meaning of the constitution–where and who hijacked it should be the question. I had gone to many tea party rallys in my town and city and at that time everyone was quoting the constitution.

    Glen Beck was a huge part of constitutional facts and what it stood for, and held that huge rally in DC all based on the constitution……… what happened to change or squash it.

    • 7 drkate December 1, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      The Tea Party got co-opted by the rino republicans…the 912 march in 2009 was the purest….we shoulda stayed–2 million people were there.

  6. 9 cedartree December 1, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    For example, John McCain is a “naturalized” citizen. He gets his citizenship via the Immigration and Nationality Act — “by statute” emanating from Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution. These are citizens by man-made laws of the United States. Natural born citizens are citizens by nature.

    You will note that “natural born citizens” are not described in Article I Section 8, the 14th amendment, nor 8 U.S.C. Code 1401, because, as stated before, they are not citizens by statute, they are citizens by nature.

    Because natural born citizens are NOT naturalized citizens, the only choice this low IQ maskelldummy has is to say naturalized citizens are different from other born citizens, so he can lump in natural born citizens with born citizens.


    And Maskel lies that jus-soli only persons are born citizens; they are not.

    Here’s the formula:

    0 US citizen parents born anywhere (even in USA) =you can naturalize as an ADULT IF you reject all other citizenships (it’s in the oath)
    1 US citizen parents born anywhere=born a statutory naturalized US Citizen
    2 US citizen parents born abroad=born a statutory naturalized US Citizen like McCain
    2 US citizen parents born in USA= a natural born citizen
    Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
    (c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

  7. 11 cedartree December 1, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    So it’s really simple

    since McCain is not a natural born citizen (he’s statutory naturalized), and he has 2 US Citizen parents

    and since 1 US Citizen parent (born anywhere) is statutory naturalized

    the only remaining permutation, the only possible mathematical permutation remaining for a “natural born citizen” is
    2 US Citizen parents born on US soil
    and it is
    just a Minor, Ark, Elg, Luria and Vattel hold

    • 14 cedartree December 1, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      OK so Obama is likely linked to Larry Bland, Nate Spencer, Donald Young, Lieutenient Quarles Harris, possibly his grandmother…who were all murdered…
      and he’s onto his third taxpayer paid butt concubine (Rick Colvin, Reggie Love, and third will likely be Kal Penn).
      Obama’s been CAUGHT IN PHOTOS SEXUALLY HARASSING OFFICER CROWLEY, touching his thigh then sporting a grotesque (and smallish) boner…

      And Mooch has been DISBARRED under Rule 770 in Illinois…
      SO the libs better not bring up MORALS as they are AMORAL!

  8. 17 cedartree December 1, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    But as everyone knows, the preponderance of real scientists, mathematicians, are conservatives or moderates. Liberals populate the nonsensical sciences (poli sci, psychology, sociology) and call that science; libs are too stupid to get a simple mathematical or logical concept as this. There simply is no other possible mathematical definition of NBC.

    At this point this guy Maskell is just a big horse’s ass dumbshit propagandist waste of time…we shouldn’t even have to read his drivel,

    Maskell is now, an absolutely established incompetent and utter LIAR.

  9. 18 heather December 1, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    We cannot trust anyone but RON PAUL.

    • 19 drkate December 1, 2011 at 8:19 pm

      Ron Paul is a pacifist as well…do you think he can really fight against Obama?

      • 20 heather December 1, 2011 at 8:33 pm

        I don’t know if he has the ‘will power’ to carry that fight. He has the knowledge and is a constitutional conservative, but he needs that voice reflection to get his points across to barry.

        Everything hinges on voice tone and body movement and barry went to hollywood to learn this–remember?

        I would hope that Ron Paul would not put himself into a situation that he can’t get out of.

        • 21 drkate December 1, 2011 at 8:44 pm

          I think Paul will need some coaching here…and, I think he is not ‘worried’ because he doesn’t expect to win the nomination…I’d like to see him really want this thing. I am concerned that he is always put in a place where he sounds like an angry old man.

          • 22 heather December 1, 2011 at 9:03 pm

            Right, he does sound like that, and actually I don’t think he expects to win either, however, he is doing all of us a favor by ‘rating’ out or whistleblowing the dirty tricks they all pull and that none of them can be trusted.

            It’s almost as if he is challenging the NWO thugs – go ahead, keep messing with us, and I will keep rating you thugs out and sooner or later the people will stand. This is just my opinion.

          • 23 sky December 1, 2011 at 9:09 pm

            I would rather see a angry man than a con like obama,Kate there is a reason he is mad I’m mad,and remember were american citizens.Be mad at the corrupt FED & the CFR,Now is time to pressure the crazy members of the CFR,Find the corp.invested in it and threaten them to get out of bed with this corrupt organization.political vel craft,Newt artical.

      • 27 sky December 1, 2011 at 9:23 pm

        one way any smart person running for office will have to have the guts to go after the treason being done right now,and getting obama arrested now,along with the freezing of the rothschilds money.

        • 28 Tenacity December 1, 2011 at 10:09 pm

          Allow me to suggest that to stay the course, as long as Dr. Paul has and is, requires a substantial amount of fire in the belly. It also requires a healthy and stable characterilogic structure to maintain as much calm as he displays. He can bring a Perry to a froth and look him straight in the eye with a smirk and light in his own eye. There is a steel about him that should not be underestimated. He knows who he is so does not have to react to attempts to rattle him. He knows that many Americans will not trust a man that manages with anger. The anger is there, but it does not manage him. Those that hold him in high esteem trust in his judgment and his restraint. He has been pushed back, but never knocked down. Why is that? He stays on his feet. He is not afraid of the truth and speaks it without apology. I find him more courageous in that regard than anyone in the public eye and looking for a vote. He is one tough cookie. Watch the videos of him holding hearings in his committee. He is formidable.

          • 29 Tenacity December 1, 2011 at 10:26 pm

            There is one man from my youth that held more respect than anyone else I have known. I never heard him raise his voice and those around him most said the same. He was a disciplinarian and did not have to ask for compliance more than once. He had high expectations of those around him and treated everyone fairly and consistently. His children were promptly obedient and knew they were loved. All around him knew he cared and gave him their utmost best. He was the kind of leader that I only dream I could be. He was known as a man of moderation. When he died at age 93, people were surprised he was gone because he seemed still young. He drove himself to work the day before he died. He was a man of God and one of the most principled men I ever knew. He was unbending in his integrity. He fought on San Juan hill in the Spanish-American War. He was my mother’s father. When I think of a leader…a man of great strength and fortitude, I think of him. A man’s strengths are much greater than sometimes meets the eye.

            • 30 Tenacity December 1, 2011 at 10:56 pm

              Pacifists will not say, “when the Congress declares war, we go in, we win it and we get out.” A pacifist never goes in and they don’t understand or accept the concept of winning it. Pacifist are usually not cowards as they will get in your face to make their point, but going in to win is not a consideration.

          • 31 heather December 2, 2011 at 6:10 am

            Thanks Ten-I love your passion! Keep it coming.

    • 32 chris December 4, 2011 at 3:30 pm

      You mean we can trust wrong paul to address the obama eligibility issue? Wrong paul won’t worry that he will be ‘laughed out of congress’ if he addresses the obama elig issue? Wrong paul the one who declares that obama elgibility is irrelevant?

  10. 34 no-nonsense-nancy December 1, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Made of ginger bread and white chocolate. It has 24 hour secret service protection until after the holidays!

  11. 38 no-nonsense-nancy December 1, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    They are supposed to look like little chefs but they look more like KKK members!

  12. 41 heather December 1, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    so biden says we did not start this war in iraq! really, really I say….it was GWB that started it………..that means biden, yes it was the US that started this war–and until it is proven truthfully that the iraqis did 911, you mr botox are just another liar–just like your boss.

  13. 42 Voco Indubium December 2, 2011 at 3:43 am

    RE: RP

    It seems all the above commentators agree that RP will not get the nomination. If he does nothing he will fade away, 2 years from now hardly anyone will remember his name. If he wants to be mentioned in the history books more than a footnote, he will establish a 3rd party, with a name emphasizing the Constitution.

    Conservatives voters are tired of the GOP ineffectiveness and McCain-like nominees. This election may mark the beginning of the end of the GOP. Of course, O will beat any GOP nominee, as the media will eliminate them, as they eliminated Cain. It was child’s play. Next is Gingrich then Romney. Anyone left? If yes, they get the same treatment. When all are helplessly bleeding, O will throw in the $1 B camping fund to buy TV sound-bites and the mindless average voter will vote for him again. Repeat of 2008.

    So RP will not be the Prez in 2013, but as a leader of a third party he could positively influence the course of the country and by 2016 the new party could have a real possibility to replace the GOP.

    Is he a fighter? No, he is not. If he were he would disqualify O by the eligibility.

  14. 43 jane December 2, 2011 at 6:08 am

    Well, we have been HAD again….this time we are the enemy.

    Thanks to the SENATE “conservatives” we are DONE and it’s game OVER.

  15. 44 Tenacity December 2, 2011 at 9:09 am

    “Winners never quit and quitters never win.” Vince Lombardi

    This is an endurance contest. We know they will cheat, but more people are waking up every minute. I have faith in the American spirit, but also in God. We must stay the course…the Luciferians will consume themselves and those even half awake are rising because they are hurting.

    • 45 Tenacity December 2, 2011 at 10:00 am

      Proverbs 24: 13 My son, eat honey, for it is good, and the honeycomb, for it is sweet unto thy mouth. 14 So shall the knowledge of wisdom be unto thy soul, if thou find it, and there shall be an end, and thine hope shall not be cut off. 15 Lay no wait, O wicked man, against the house of the righteous, and spoil not his resting place. 16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth again: but the wicked fall into mischief.
      17 Be thou not glad when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart rejoice when he stumbleth, 18 Lest the Lord see it, and it displease him, and he turn his wrath from him. 19 Fret not thyself because of the malicious, neither be envious at the wicked. 20 For there shall be none end of plagues to the evil man: the light of the wicked shall be put out. 21 My son fear the Lord, and the King, and meddle not with them that are seditious. 22 For their destruction shall rise suddenly, and who knoweth the ruin of them both?

  16. 47 heather December 2, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I was listening to Neal Boortz with Jamie Dupree this morning and Dupree made a comment about the situation with Hermann Cain and who he thought made these accusations that will ultimately destroy Cains campaign — Dupree said, someone in the republican committee. If that is so, then the republicans want barry to win IMOP.

  17. 48 cynkading December 2, 2011 at 12:01 pm


    I went yesterday to do my weekly shopping and to tried to buy only things that were made in the USA. This turned out to be so frustrating. I would say that most of the things that Walmart supplies is made in the China. I know this is not news to anyone but, I believe if everyone would try to get others to only purchase things that are made in the USA or very few things from China. Maybe we could start a trend to turn some things around in this nation. I know that many people do not have the time to do this without having to shop at other places and if you are working convenience plays a huge part in what is purchased. We have got to start somewhere. Needless to say my buggy was pretty empty. This was a first.

    I went to the Christmas aisle. Only one type of Christmas ornament was made in the USA. It was not one of the pretty stylish shiny sparkly kind but a simple one with an image of God’s Greatest Gift with the baby Jesus on it. Every kind of wrapping paper, every Christmas card even the ones that have Hallmark on them were made in China.

    I ended of buying some drinking glasses that were made in the USA and some chewing gum. I left there and went to the $1 tree store. Same story except some of their wrapping paper was made in the USA. Something to think about.

    I would also add that if even athletic shoes are made in other countries. New Balance athletic shoes are made in the USA and I love them.

    We have been “nudged” into buying other countries goods and services. We can control some of this if we just would.

    I am through ranting for now……

    • 55 Tenacity December 2, 2011 at 2:36 pm

      heather, this is very interesting. Christopher Ruddy has been surprisingly successful after becoming friends with Bill Clinton, who he once loved to bash. Ruddy’s #3 stockholder is Richard Mellon Scaife, heir to the Mellon Bank fortune. Now throw Trump into that mix and you begin to see a pattern or picture emerging. One thing is for certain, that will not be friendly territory of Dr. Paul, but that may be to his advantage. If ever there was a time to bring out the real definition of Natural Born Citizen, this could be it. I don’t see that happening, but it sure would be interesting. I would like to see what the ties are between this little cadre and Romney’s Bain Capital that owns Clear Channel. Ruddy has not glorified Romney by any means, but I suspect there is a lot more to that story. One thing I can say for certain, I see Newsmax as a propaganda rag and see ties to big time bankster RINOs. Just consider a bag with Clinton, Mellon Bank and Trump in it. What’s that about? Can’t be good.

      • 56 heather December 2, 2011 at 3:09 pm

        Don’t know Ten–just read the article and found it odd that Trump would moderate a debate that he could have joined had he enter the campaign…just very strange.

        I guess we will see. I think RP can handle himself — he has started interviewing with hosts who thought he would never come on their shows–Boortz was one of those — RP did an interview today with him and held his own and Boortz actually was impressed with him—shocked me.

        There is just too much corruption that has gone on for so long, it’s going to take a long long time to rid our govt and state govt of it, if we ever do.

        • 57 Tenacity December 2, 2011 at 4:35 pm

          The corruption is unimaginable. I am curious to see if they released Commander Walter Fitzpatrick today. Look at this article by Sharon Rondeau as it clearly shows the depth of the corruption and how even local judges ignore the law and believe themselves immune to any accountability.

          • 58 sky December 2, 2011 at 5:40 pm

            US corp & the IMF beforeitsnews money column

          • 59 Voco Indubium December 3, 2011 at 4:32 am

            RE: “ how even local judges ignore the law and believe themselves immune to any accountability. “

            Discussing a local (county) case with an attorney, he said “we have the law 100% on our side, but I cannot guarantee what the judge will do”.

            Replied: “You mean they don’t keep the law?”

            That is right, he said, “sometimes they act as if they were God”.

            Reply: “How can that be in this country? This is not a banana republic.”

            Answer: “You think it is not – but they get away with it every time. “

            Just like the entire Judicial Branch has gotten away with making the constitution unenforceable by not hearing the eligibility cases on merit. The very same constitution they took oaths to protect.

            By the way, there is very little discussion on that issue – on making the constitution unenforceable. Ten or drKate – you both are excellent writers – perhaps one day one of you could write an essay about that, and ask S. L. Craig to comment. This would generate a very good discussion.

            If the constitution, the supreme law of the land, is unenforceable, it is as good as no constitution. A typical banana republic, where an elite ruling class ignores or uses the law at their choice.

            This is not a new issue but it is getting worse year by year. Ron Paul filed a suit (or asked SCOTUS) five or more years ago, to rule on a constitutional issue. They said that he had no Standing (or similar technicality) and refused to hear it on merit. The point is, that it is not only a recent phenomenon, but not getting better. The Judicial Branch should be reformed.

            • 60 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 12:05 pm

              Voco, in the absence of Sound Money, it appears the only other viable route is to install and educate constitutional sheriffs capable of enforcing presentments issued by grand juries and properly assembled common law citizen grand juries. The time for the constitutional sheriff is here and the People must insist upon it and provide sufficient support for those sheriffs. Obtaining Sound Money legislation at the State level is essential.

  18. 61 Voco Indubium December 2, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.):
    “The local cops are still going to get you for driving without a license, or not coming to a complete stop, or simply making up that your taillight was out,” he said at a press conference. “But when they take you to Secretary [Janet] Napolitano’s officers at ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement], what should happen is that you should show them that you have strong ties and when they run your record and it shows you have no criminal history, you should be allowed to go free right there and then.”


    1. Whom is he representing? US citizens or illegals?
    2. Would Rep. Guitierez ask O to document “strong ties” as well, like an original paper bc ?
    3. Why does he, as Rep., have so much faith in illegals and so little in law enforcing officers?
    4. Is this OK? A Member of Congress, advising non-citizens who broke the law, promoting continuation of breaking the law, instead of advising them to go through the proper legal way of getting immigration papers or work permit.
    5. Is there no one in the government who will challenge the misguided Rep.?

    • 62 heather December 2, 2011 at 8:07 pm

      He is hispanic and taking their side and will fight american citizens to the end for his agenda–so what is his agenda and who is paying him for this?

      These are the questions that we american citizens need to ask each and every time there is someone taking the side of the enemy (so to speak) and this is treason–he is a traitor plain and simple.

      • 63 Voco Indubium December 3, 2011 at 3:26 am

        RE:”…. this is treason–he is a traitor plain and simple.”

        And yet no one from GOP, Tea Party or one of the few honest Dems will challenge this guy? What is this? Political correctness on the n-th degree?

  19. 64 Troy December 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm

    3rd state facing challenge over Obama eligibility
    Alabama complaint alleges, ‘We’re now talking of fraud’
    Posted: December 01, 2011
    9:55 pm Eastern

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2011 WND

    A formal challenge to Barack Obama’s candidacy in the 2012 presidential election has been filed now in a third state, where a submission by a citizen, Albert Hendershot, alleges that the Democratic Party “intends to act negligently or fraudulently in a manner that will cause irreparable harm to the citizens of Alabama.”

    Earlier challenges to Obama’s candidacy were filed in New Hampshire and Georgia. State officials in New Hampshire, noting that the application had been filled out and the $1,000 fee had been paid, rejected the complaint, which now is being appealed.

    Read more: 3rd state facing challenge over Obama eligibility

    • 65 Ann December 2, 2011 at 7:25 pm

      AND they can’t call him racist because he’s black. AND admitted that he voted for Obozo in 2008. It just doesn’t get any better than that!! 🙂

  20. 66 no-nonsense-nancy December 2, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    I think we all knew this was the case but Judi McLeod reiterates it for us. When are we going to get these creeps in prison where they belong?

  21. 70 Jan December 2, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    26 TRILLION Dollars In Bank Bailouts! That’s Not Including TARP!” Alan Grayson! Federal Reserve

  22. 71 Jan December 2, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Paul Craig Roberts: We have a republican party that is a Gestapo party

    • 72 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 11:55 am

      John McCain and Lindsey Graham should be recalled for breach of oath of office if not hung for treason. We need to impeach the Senate. I know there is no such provision as that was negated when the 17th Amendment was fraudulently and unlawfully claimed to be ratified. The criminals in D.C. are acting as though the 14th, 15th, 16th & 17th Amendments are legitimate while ignoring a properly ratified original 13th Amendment. It is time to hold strictly to the constitution including all means available per the Declaration of Independence to throw off anyone and anything breaking the constitution. If the 17th had not been rammed down our throats, then the States would have the power to recall and replace the Senators at the will of the State legislators. This latest bill represents an amendment to the constitution and is thus unlawful in the absence of a ratified amendment. John McCain is a traitor and should be treated accordingly.

      • 73 heather December 3, 2011 at 8:07 pm

        Ah–come on Ten–John McCain withstood the torture camps in VV! He won’t let any of us forget that!! He is a traitor and definitely should be treated accordingly–I agree.

    • 75 no-nonsense-nancy December 3, 2011 at 8:07 am

      So they are going to watch over all of us when we are shipped off to the Fema camps! Didn’t they do this in Nazi Germany? Oh, that’s right, we have become Nazi Germany. That lovely guy George Soros did something like that in his youth. Are Americans, so desperate for jobs, really going to get involved in this? What lies will theybe told to get them to think it is OK?

    • 77 heather December 2, 2011 at 10:38 pm

      Freakn chemtrails criss crossed over my house yesterday and now we are due for major storms by Sunday. The sky looked like a checker board and 20 minutes later it was pure white with think dense clouds.

      Time for these things to stop.

      • 78 Jan December 3, 2011 at 12:05 am

        Heather, they have started flying side by side and putting out twice as much up here.

        • 79 heather December 3, 2011 at 8:29 am

          Jan-I have had it. A few months ago I called the state EPA and they told me that the FCC was in charge of this which I knew to be a lie, passing the buck so to speak, so I called my senator and was told they knew nothing about this blah blah-.

          My neighbor is an air traffic controller and he said that they all know about these chemtrails because they show on radar but aren’t allowed to talk about it!

          When they first started the heavy spraying, they did very lightly so we didn’t notice and then in the middle of the night–and now that we all know what their doing, they have boldly come out and do it consistantly everywhere.

          So Jan what state are you in? I will keep a look out for their newest trick now of double spraying.

          • 80 Jan December 3, 2011 at 2:51 pm

            Heather, I’m in the northwest tip of MT. Used to be we’d only see a trail going from east to west in the morning on the northern horizon and another from west to east on the southern horizon in the afternoon. Days would pass before we saw any again. Now it is daily, right over the top of us and all space inbetween. Yesterday across the southern horizon there were two, going really fast making a wide path. I got so ticked I quit watching. Today we are totally covered with clouds. I would not want to be in those pilots shoes when they meet their maker.

    • 81 heather December 2, 2011 at 10:46 pm

      So they are using WNV and others as an excuse to dump on us. Now is Ventura county California yesterday, the county applied to the local EPA for a variance to continue to spray–….this is all crap–I have been sick since they started this heavy spraying since 2009.

      And now my dogs have respiratory problems since 09.

      • 82 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 11:46 am

        You can treat pets with MMS too. It doesn’t stop all of the nasal drip but kills all infection. I have been around a lot of people with that bacterial infection that has been going around and I have stayed well using MMS. to get protocols and to purchase.

        • 83 cedartree December 3, 2011 at 12:30 pm

          Without any scientific data in the form of a double blind placebo controlled study with a significant population there’s no way to know if something works based on hearsay alone.

          • 84 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 1:08 pm

            I believe the research and studies done by Jim Humble over the FDA any day. The chemistry on this is clear. There are numerous remedies now based upon the same principle of alkalizing the body and putting oxygen to anaerobes/pathogens. The pharmaceutical industry owned by the Luciferian banksters are killing the “doubly blind” public and making a fortune off NOT CURING them. Humble has been forced to do his own controlled studies in the field and hope the banksters don’t have him snuffed. The medical industry is duped and hog tied by the globalist elite who want the population reduced. Wake up and recognize that most doctors are unconsciously killing people.

            Here is a taste of truth for anyone that has eyes and ears for it:
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            • 85 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 4:42 pm

              This is long, but I don’t have a link, just a word doc. This is important!!
              (Laura Lee radio show, 1994)
              LL If there was an even playing field some of the alternative therapies would shine.
              RM The Japanese are not afraid to look at things that are non-toxic. Here we will look at natural things as long as they are more toxic than chemotherapy. We don’t want any competition. It would be unfair competition to have a less toxic drug than chemotherapy because everyone would then flock to the less toxic drug.
              LL What is really sick is the industry leaders value their bottom line more than the well being and life of people.
              RM Yes, because we have set up a situation where it costs hundreds of millions of dollars for a new drug. Once you have got a situation like that you have got to have a patent on the drug.
              LL We know that natural substances cannot be patented.
              RM If you want to change it you change the law that establishes the need for double blind clinical studies in drugs. You eliminate the efficacy clause from the Harris amendment to the food and drug act, which Harris himself didn’t even want. This was imposed by the FDA and the drug industry. This upped the ante and made a regulatory barrier. Now instead of it taking 1 million dollars to establish the safety of a drug, you now need 300 million dollars. So, none of the small inventors or the people with good ideas can ever hope to possibly hope to get their drugs approved. They put you in administrative limbo where the best you ever hope to get is this backburner simmering kind of thing, and I know of a number of good scientists who have got IND’s (Investigative New Drug Applications) to test drugs, but when you try to market the drug they will put you out of business, and Dr Burzynski is the prime example. Brilliant scientist, wonderful results in cancer, validated by the NCI, and yet he is on the verge of federal indictment.
              RM If there is one thing you should pick up from this show tonight it’s this: If you ever get into a situation where a doctor recommends chemotherapy to you or your family ask to see the studies that the chemotherapy actually extends the life of the patient.
              LL With chemo you may be shortening your life, certainly be under discomfort, certainly incurring huge costs. It can bankrupt you or your family. You have a right to know
              RM What are the actual toxicity? Go to a library to get a physicians desk reference, or my chemotherapy report. I am continuously amazed. I was doing some research due to my consultations on AML–a type of Leukemia, and the treatment is so intense and toxic that in the older group that this particular patient fell into 40% die from the toxicity of the treatment.
              LL 40% would have lived longer if they hadn’t had the treatment.
              RM And the cure rate is miniscule, under 10%. It is terrible odds. In Las Vegas you wouldn’t gamble with those odds unless you were crazy. The doctors fudge the statistics. They are confounding and confusing different issues, the response rate, the cure rate, the one year survival rate and so forth. Many doctors don’t know any better. They are afraid. The widest prairies have electric fences and they are afraid to wander too close to the edge of their own field to find out what is on the other side because they know from the example of Dr Jonathan Wright or Burzynski that if you stray too far from the herd you are liable to bump into one of those electric fences. So there is a kind of self censorship. I have seen this a hundred times. You talk to oncologists and doctors, and they are individually open-minded and interested but as an aggregate they will not move until their leadership moves because that is a very dangerous thing for an oncologist to do. They would stand out too much, and they can’t afford to do that as they all depend on referrals from everyone else. So the minute you get branded as a “quack”—-it is a conformist world, and in the professions the peer pressure is what makes for success or failure. Nobody wants to alienate their peers, so you don’t stick your neck out or you will get your head chopped off.
              LL Lop the tallest poppy. Where does good science happen? (Continues…)
              RM.. Dr Gavalo in Russia who gets 75% five year survival in most carcinomas. Unbelievable. CG hormone. Trophoblastic cells. Cancer is similar to pregnancy. Cancer looks like a pregnancy. Dr Lance….isolate the blocking factor…analyzed proteins anti tumor necrosis factor….blocking factors of tumor.. we dismount immune system when pregnant… remove blocking proteins 3 patients with over 2 pounds of cancer…within 24 hours all dead on autopsy they did not have a single cancer cells all gone in 48 hours….but kidneys could not handle it….they did not know about detox….the word detox does not appear in the main textbook on cancer or the main medical textbook…the word in medicine refers to heroin addicts and getting them off heroin….they do not conceive that their are such things as toxins created by a tumour…where do they think it all goes?….it goes straight to the kidney, liver, lungs….Lentz learned to go slower… surgery can reduce tumor load…this failure is more exciting than most of the success I read about…it shows you how incredibly powerful the immune system is…it is not just that people have failing immune systems…it is primarily that the tumor can evade the immune system….it does not see the tumor there…if you make it visible it will go in and wipe it out….the Burton Clinic in the Bahamas does this….Lentz did learn (1986) 2 patients who were terminal are still alive…. in 1902 a man, Beard, discovered cancer is trophoblast, wrong time wrong place…………cancer is far too intelligent to submit to the raid approach of Allopathic medicine
              LL Other research?
              RM Burzynski, only available in Texas. Some results are amazing, for example in brain cancer. The NCI sent a team, finally, after we were asking them for 15 years, and validated the cases. I met one of the boys who was treated for a tumor about the size of pear in his brain. Within one month the tumor was gone, and it is 3 years down the road, cancer free. He has damage from the radiation treatment he recieved prior to that, he lost some of his hearing In non Hodgkinson lymphoma I have a friend who had stage 4, went through chemo, radiation and bone marrow transplant. He failed the bone marrow transplantation. More chemotherapy. Read my book and found out about Dr Burzynski, and its 5 years, and he is completely free of cancer… an amazing case…..he also took the whole “chicken soup” of vitamins etc…..why is this better than chemo?…it is very low toxicity
              LL You are talking about not damaged immune systems but how the immune system was fooled.
              RM Exactly, but you still have to have an immune system. Chemo decreases it..

        • 86 heather December 3, 2011 at 9:52 pm

          Thanks Ten. When I take my dogs for their yrly shots I always include the kennel cough meds, whether they are being boarded or not. This medication has kept them from getting any kind of respiratory or cold since 2001.

          It is basically my bishon that has the problem with the ‘hacking’ — sounds almost like he is snorting of sorts –other than that he is healthy. The problem is he has only done this since we left the east coast and settled here–5.5 yrs now. Not to worry my vet is awesome and one of the best in this state and says for their ages they are both extremely healthy. They are 11.5 and 9.5 yrs and very active. (like 2yr olds actually) I just can’t figure out what that snort sound is and he hasn’t done it while at the vets.

          I only feed them lamb and rice Nutro/Natural choice because it is made in America and is gluton free……and of course we all know that most all dog food comes from china and is loaded with wheat and rice glutons which has poisoned and killed dogs. And this food is much easier on their digestion tracks which is important for their daily health.

          My pets are extremely spoiled and well take care of (my vet laughs because they are treated so well)and they’re like my kids.

  23. 87 sky December 3, 2011 at 11:23 am

    NRA artical political vel craft website

  24. 89 SirLurksAlot December 3, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Hello everyone…; some comments up-thread about made in U.S.A. Here find some bar code info. This was sent to me in an email. If you don’t know already you will find this interesting. The first 3 numbers under the bars will tell you the products country (area) of origin.

    00-09 = U.S.A.
    The far left number wil be a zero, usually in a smaller font.
    690-695 = China
    30-37 = France
    40-44 = Germany
    471 = Taiwan
    49 = Japan
    50 = UK
    57 = Denmark
    64 = Finland
    76 = Switzerland and Lienchtenstein
    480 = Phillipines
    628 = Saudi-Arabien
    629 = United Arab Emirates
    740-745 = Central America

    I could not find one for Mexico? Maybe Central America.

    Sometimes you will see stickers with the PLU (price look-up) on fruits and is some info on that:

    four numbers: 1234 means it was conventionally grown.
    9+four numbers means organically grown.
    8+four numbers means GMO (Genetically modified organism) Stay away.

    For lotsa info:

    • 90 no-nonsense-nancy December 3, 2011 at 9:20 pm

      Thanks for the info, Sir. My pasta certainly is made here as well as my can of hot chocolate mix. Don’t know where my couscous came from. That’s all I have checked so far.

    • 91 heather December 3, 2011 at 9:39 pm

      Thanks for this info–very interesting and informing.

      • 92 sky December 4, 2011 at 3:55 am

        Everyone in washington dc are backing this thug commiting treason,on nov 2012,if not before,before any vote the traitors [military]needs to get this thug out.Next step get rid of the corrupt fed.Why is it that people are talking about the election,we need to ask the people why they are backing this man and his treason,and since they have been that makes them guilty too.Everything should be nullified,This Financial Corruption FED,IMF,WTO,BIS,SDR,UN has been used against the citizens since the 2 world war.Money has always been a powerful weapon.If we get rid of this corruption,[CFR]Business’s that are members need to be pressured to get out of it.We need a bill that business’s that are overseas wont have to pay double taxes to come back maybe business’s will come back home.No more forced union dues.People need to get out of the biggest banks,and so do the corporations.get the glass steagle act reinstated & for the dollar to be backed by gold

  25. 93 Jan December 3, 2011 at 3:46 pm

    The power of Executive Orders and some that are downright scary.

  26. 95 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    My friend Janet said:

    We all must give thanks for and bless Sen. Rand Paul and his father Ron Paul for being true American leaders!
    Please pray for them daily.
    This is truly a spiritual fight we are in to save America.

    and sent this email:

    Thanks to:
    Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011
    Subject: UnAmerican ‘Detainee’ bill WAS DEFEATED!!!

    There is a lot of misinformation on the passage of a bill alleged to destroy the Bill of Rights and allow any American to be detained indefinitely without due process…
    This was declared to have “passed” but this is NOT true…

    Sen. Paul Statement on Defeat of Detainee Amendment
    Dec 1, 2011
    WASHINGTON, D.C. – Tonight, Sen. Rand Paul prevented the passage of an amendment that would have further eroded Americans’ constitutional rights. Offered to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal 2012 (S.1867), amendment No. 1274 would have allowed the U.S. government to detain an American citizen indefinitely, even after they had been tried and found not guilty, until Congress declares an end to the war on terror.
    “Suspicion of committing a crime should lead to your attempted prosecution. If the evidence does not support conviction, it would be against everything we believe in and fight for in America to still allow the government to imprison you at their whim,” Sen. Paul said. “Tonight, a blow was struck to fight back against those who would take our liberty.”

    The amendment would have passed by voice vote, but this tactic was blocked by Sen. Paul’s objection. He then forced a roll call vote, in which the amendment was defeated, 41-59.

    Sen. Paul earlier this week introduced an amendment to formally end the war in Iraq. Despite the fact that troops will be removed from Iraq at the end of this year, the amendment failed 30-67.

  27. 96 heather December 3, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    bill clintons EO—I never heard of these………..i guess barry is implimenting them 1 by 1.

  28. 97 no-nonsense-nancy December 3, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    This is an agency that I would be glad for my tax money to pay for.

  29. 99 no-nonsense-nancy December 3, 2011 at 9:11 pm

  30. 100 no-nonsense-nancy December 3, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    I think poor BO should just give it up. This job is just too stressful for another term!

  31. 101 Tenacity December 3, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    The globalist controlled CIA are shrewd and seem to have multiple escape routes planned. They create enough rabbit trails that discerning reality is like finding your way on a plain in a blizzard. Although we should avoid getting sucked into their snares, we should also be prepared for whatever shell game they choose to play. This article gives an interesting perspective of the latest pieces of this cruel mystery and conspiracy.

    Barack Obama: The Invisible Man

  32. 104 GORDO December 4, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    “DR. RON POLLAND, author of ALIAS BARACK OBAMA “A lie is Born”, the man who has forged Obama’s short-form birth certificate.”

    “Long Live America, KCEO Radio, 12-01-2011”


    [audio src="" /]

    [begins at 9:50 mark]

  33. 105 sky December 4, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    banks lawsuit political vel craft website

  34. 106 cedartree December 4, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    The mossad has said all along that MX was dad.

    OK MX’s bastard son, so let’s DNA test MX’s daughter’s against his.*4lZd8IxZ*WOFbWjfeGykSfTrOt3ECkfDsfGRIKUzwNHPYMsWKbas/malcolmx.jpg?width=750

    Michelle’s MX dress

  35. 107 cedartree December 4, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Gee whatcha think China plans on doing with those thousand miles of TUNNELS with an extra 3,000 nukes that Georgetown University uncovered?

    Oh and why did GU figure this out and no word from US intelligence?

    what boolkwapp! just 10 times the nukes they said they did

  36. 108 Voco Indubium December 4, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    RE: Gingrich – Polk County speech

    Just had a chance to watch his Polk County speech on C-Span. You all may disagree, but it was an inspiring speech, and it came from the heart.

    But what was most welcome, is that he called O radical, practically anti-American (not the exact words) and challenged O for the debate. He would even allow O to use the teleprompter. This is old news, but cannot resist bringing it up because it would be nice to hear your comments. .

    It seems that his sudden front-running in the polls is due to showing courage to challenge O seriously. Voters are hungry for straight talk and tired of the polite McCain-style political correctness.

    • 109 Jan December 4, 2011 at 9:59 pm

      Voco, sorry but if the American Citizens think for one minute they are getting straight talk from the heart of Newt, they better think again. He might be able to beat obat, however his is CFR, New World Order, Bilderbergs, etc.
      Anti 2nd Amendment and has been groomed for years on how to speak, what to say and when to say it.
      I will have to say that if it is between obat and Newt I would have to vote for Newt and pray without ceasing.
      I think if Newt is the choice of the RNC, we will see Martial Law before we see a voting booth.

      • 110 heather December 4, 2011 at 10:30 pm

        After reading and carefully understanding the situation with Cain, I put nothing past anyone of them, be it the gop or the dems. Cain was of course not my first choice, but I need to say, that who ever paid this last woman off to come forward with this story of Cain giving from the heart to help a person in need is just as evil as barry.

        Let’s face it, apparently Cain had been giving her rent money for some time so why would she blow that by coming forward unless someone paid her big money.

        Now, the american people have lost their “choice” of a vote. No one has the right to take our choices away–anymore than the cheating that went on with barry. Our constitutional right to a free vote is our choice and that was taken from all of us by their antics.

        So once again these crooked and corrupt politicians have not heard our voices and have not represented us other than to steal continually from the american people.

        • 111 Jan December 4, 2011 at 10:44 pm

          Heather, the Dems could no way allow Cain to be the choice of the RNC, after all he is more black than obat so they could not call us racists.

          I don’t know who pulled this crap, I have heard it was the Republicans and I have heard it was the dems, no matter, it was evil and yes, I believe she was paid big bucks to say what she said. I hope it was enough to keep her for a while because I doubt Cain will ever help her again.

          • 112 heather December 5, 2011 at 8:41 am

            Maybe Gloria, Cains wife needs to bit*ch slap that loser–although Mrs. Cain is more of a lady than to lower herself to her standards.

            Someone paid her off and thats all that matters. We the people stood right here in plain sight and watched it. Now what are we going to do about WHO WE WANT TO RUN AND GET ELECTED—this is our RIGHT! — These thugs need to learn once and for all that they cannot dictate our rights to us and we must put up a fight for our choice.

  37. 113 Tenacity December 4, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    What changes if Gingrich were POTUS? Banksters have another friend in the White House; the bull dung improves; we shift from welfare to warfare, debt continues to increase; enslavement progresses; the theft continues, and; the constitution continues to be trampled. Gingrich is an actor…a disingenuous shill working for the cabal. The Vatican and the Queen will be very happy with Newt.

  38. 116 Voco Indubium December 5, 2011 at 2:58 am

    RE: Gingrich

    I am not a Gingrich enthusiast. And I know that other candidate than RP is not tolarated on this site. I simply said that his speech was good, acting or not, from the heart or not. Let me ask you this: Which politician is not an actor? Even Reagan was one – (but at least a real one).

    Also, the Contract with America, engineered single handedly by Gingrich was an OK attempt.

    Challenging O for a debate and allowing O to use the teleprompter is nothing less than brilliant. Pledging that if O does not accept the challenge Gingrich will follow him, 4 hours, answering any campaign speech O gives, is equally good.

    Basically I just asked the question: Is it possible that Gingrich’ attack mode made him the front runner?

    RE: Who eliminated Cain?

    The media. They created O and they are standing by him rain or shine. They will attack the future GOP nominee and make him unelectable. Memories are short, what are you expecting? Remember how the media attacked Sarah Palin’s family in 2008? Any nominee will get the treatment, maybe from a different angle than Cain, but it will be equally devastating. (They chose to eliminate Cain early in the game.) When the nominee is hurt badly, O will use his $ 1 B campaign fund and buy TV-sound bites, causing the average voter reelect him. As no one is willing disqualify O, this scenario is the most likely.

    • 117 Ann December 5, 2011 at 10:09 am

      Nobody said that you can’t support another candidate here. Ten and others have just given their opinion on Newt. Whether you agree with it or not is your option. Lighten up dude.

      I agree that Newt looks to be the “media darling” at the moment but they’ll turn on him if he becomes Obummer’s opponent in the Primary. He would most definately eat Obummer’s lunch in a debate but I’m not sure he’ll get that chance since I’m not even sure we’ll have an election by next year. A lot can happen between now & then and the words “false flag” seems to be the only option that can insure the Dictator stays in office for another term. IF that happens, we’re done.

  39. 122 Voco Indubium December 5, 2011 at 3:09 am

    RE: “…I think if Newt is the choice of the RNC, we will see Martial Law before we see a voting booth….’

    Romney is the choice of the Establishment GOP, and probably of the RNC.

    • 123 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 10:17 am

      Voco, I can only speak for myself. What I have become intolerant of is the dictatorial money establishment behind the GOP and media. They INSTALL their puppets via the media, unconstitutional vote counting and courts which They* control. Dr. Paul just happens to be the only candidate that has consistently resisted Their* legislation and pursues Sound Money which is the key to breaking the taxing/banking vortex. I believe the Rothschild/Rockefeller agenda would be served by any of the actors other than Dr. Paul. Hey, I’ve been wrong before. If I am wrong, it will be that even Dr. Paul will serve that agenda. These elitist power brokers play all kinds of games to shift Their* puppets around in the polls so that one of them ends up on top. First of all, I don’t believe Their* polls. They* would have been happy with Cain, but They* also allow competition amongst Their* puppets and they eat each other without repercussion because the puppets all have dirt on each other far beyond what the public is allowed to see. I have no doubt in my mind that all of the candidates save RP are Their* puppets. I pray I’m not wrong about RP. He is certainly human and has made some mistakes, but I believe he will serve the people and the constitution. I am confident Gingrich will serve the elite and himself.

      I was a Reagan fan only to learn that he served the elite, increased debt and was closer to the Vatican than other presidents. His best acting job was acting like he was responsible for bringing down the Berlin Wall. He also signed EOs that worked against the people and followed the occult. He was a shill just like the present puppets. I see Gingrich as the counterpart of Hitlary…both masters at deception and effective at their evil craft.

      • 124 Voco Indubium December 5, 2011 at 1:32 pm

        I don’t disagree with you on many of your basic premises. Although, I think you exaggerate occasionally, especially on the Vatican’s role. With regard to Gingrich, please read my note replying to Ann’s comment.

        He did attack O effectively by offering the debate and allowing O to use the teleprompter. Give him credit for that even if you think the Contract with America was an acting job. As I said before I don’t particularly support him. But the GOP field is very weak, the conservatives are already more or less eliminated or don’t want to run, RP has no chance of nomination and if Romney will be the nominee, which is likely, O can easily beat him.

        The disqualification efforts go nowhere. All GOP candidates, including RP and Gingrich are cowards or bending to Rove’s will.

        What is your prediction? That RP will get the nomination and win against O?

        • 125 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 3:08 pm

          Voco, we both know this is not a fair race. I have no crystal ball and the cabal has yet to play all Their* cards. I have referred to RP’s possible nomination as being miraculous, although it is not impossible. If that miracle were to happen, you could count on a 3rd party (e.g.: Bull Moose) supported by Them* to block a Paul victory. Dr. Paul running as a 3rd party would only insure an Obama victory, assuming he gets on all the State ballots.

          • 126 sky December 6, 2011 at 8:16 am

            The best thing to do is to keep an eye on the MONEY & the CORRUPTION,Like the FED,the never ratified income tax,why people on capitol hill dont pay into social security & get by with insider trading,drug money being laundered,the corrupt IMF,WTO,BIS,[owned by the FED] and dont forget Soros,Rothschilds,goldman sachs,and other banks around the world.Why in the hell are these things not being brought up except RP.Make copy and signs about the money corruptions now, this has been going on for around 200 years.Its time to clean DC,& this is the only way,if you follow the money you can solve the problem,like making a state currency like ICELAND did.Time to get out of big banks,the companies & people involved in tides foundation,ford foundation,bill gates,oprah,Buffett,Ted Turner,and the corrupt CFR,and its members,this was formed out of the corrupt fed.These people and foundations got this thug obama elected,and they will do it again.So people money is being used as the weapon to bring down this REPUBLIC OF THE U.S.TO THE MIlitary,do your job and get this ENEMY out now,this goes as well to the sherifs in all states. oathkeepers website.

        • 127 Tenacity December 6, 2011 at 1:32 am

          Voco, I would appreciate knowing what you perceived as an exaggeration regarding the Vatican’s role. This is a topic that I am careful not to state anything that the evidence is not available to substantiate. I will be happy to provide that evidence but need to better understand the point in question. Thank you.

          • 128 Voco Indubium December 6, 2011 at 10:39 pm

            RE: “I was a Reagan fan only to learn …was closer to the Vatican than other presidents. “

            He established diplomatic relationship with the Vatican, which was broken after Lincoln’s assassination. I think it was the right thing to do. Some of the popes in the past, probably as early as the time of the Medici-popes, were engaged in politics and war more than in religion. However, the Church’s attitude in the 20th and this century is more like, “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s” (Matthew 22:21). In other words, stay out of politics.

            The church’ influence and membership are rapidly declining. Sure the Vatican made major mistakes in the past; however, Reagan recognized that the Pope is still the spiritual leader of hundreds of millions people. It is to his credit that he reestablished diplomatic relationship, in spite of the fact that he was a Presbyterian

            Nowadays, Catholics are more under attack than Moslems. From many sides. Yet in spite of the attacks and mistakes, after 2,000 years, the church is still standing. I disagree with some of their internal policies (priests should have families), but the Vatican is still a floating ship with a light, in the stormy night-ocean of corruption and immorality.

            Much of the hatred and criticism and even physical attacks (as in Egypt) originate from the Moslems, and some from Western Progressives. It is rather unusual that a conservative, constitution respecting citizen attacks the Vatican.

            • 129 drkate December 6, 2011 at 10:44 pm

              The attacks are on all Christians, not just ‘catholics’. Need to read up on the Vatican, the Jesuits, and the Black Pope.

              • 130 Voco Indubium December 7, 2011 at 1:12 pm

                DrKate & Ten,

                Please let me clarify the intent of my comment. It was an answer to Ten’s request to state my position, so Ten can reply.

                Yes, I am aware what is going on in Egypt. Also, that a lot of Christians there are Catholics.

                RE: Black Pope

                It is a derogatory term for the Superior General of the Society of Jesus. We are debating whether the Vatican is influencing American current politics. The Black Pope is not representing the Vatican. In fact, in the middle ages, the Jesuits were declared illegal by the Pope. Only in the beginning of the 19th century regained their legitimacy by the Vatican.

                • 131 drkate December 7, 2011 at 1:23 pm

                  Re Black Pope–not a derogatory or racist term. look it up.

                • 132 Voco Indubium December 7, 2011 at 1:24 pm

                  RE: ” This is a topic that I am careful not to state anything that the evidence is not available to substantiate. I will be happy to provide that evidence but need to better understand the point in question. ”

                  The point in question: Is the Vatican influencing current US policies in a negative way? If yes how?

                  • 133 Tenacity December 8, 2011 at 2:13 pm

                    VI, I checked back here a couple times and then assumed all had moved on. Rather than consume the new threads with this discussion, I will respond here as time allows me. I have some business priorities to attend to, so will return later. To give you some background, my high school sweetheart was a catholic and one of my sisters married into a connected catholic family. I did a 50 page thesis on the Catholic Church in 1969 as I wanted to understand the girl I cared greatly about and her family as well as what my sister was going through. That only gave me a little background. Back in the 1990s, when I was a deacon in the church and an ambassador for Promise Keepers, my interest in Catholicism was sparked anew and I took a graduate level course in worship that focused a great deal on the history of Catholicism. However, It wasn’t until I started putting all the pieces of the puzzle together in 2007 about the political and monetary control of the world that I realized the significant influence the Vatican and particularly the Society of Jesus have had on almost every aspect of our lives, wars, banking and the overall spiritual/economic/political battle. Just looking at one piece of the puzzle, it is easy to disbelieve or dismiss an allegation, but when one sees how perfectly all the pieces fit together, particularly with Biblical prophecy, then the allegations become undeniable. There are volumes of information and I have learned to discern by seeing information through the lens of Scripture (Geneva or KJ 1611 primarily) and comparing the puzzle pieces to the whole picture. So, are you prepared to do the research because I don’t have time to write everything out? I will spend some time on this assuming you are sincere in wanting to know, which I trust you are.

      • 134 heather December 5, 2011 at 4:03 pm

        definitely Newt will serve the elite and the NWO–for sure and for sure RP will serve the people. I keep wondering about a 3rd party for RP to run under. Everyone is fed up with the RNC and the DEMS–I for one want RP. He is true blue.

        • 135 Voco Indubium December 5, 2011 at 9:15 pm

          RE: “…I keep wondering about a 3rd party for RP to run under…”

          It is 99% sure that he will not get the GOP nomination. He should form a 3rd party before it is too late. In that case he will run against Romney and O, with a 50% chance of winning. If he does not win he and his new party can take the place of the GOP in 2016.

          He would not be ensuring O’s victory. O can beat Romney any time with or without a 3rd party.

          If he stays with the GOP, his name will hardly be a footnote in the history books.

    • 136 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 11:24 am

      Be aware of this and watch how many Mormons show up at caucus meetings. Also, be aware that Mitt Romney is a “High Priest” in the LDS Church.
      George Romney
      In 1967, US presidential candidate George W. Romney said the following regarding the White Horse Prophecy: “I have always felt that they meant that sometime the question of whether we are going to proceed on the basis of the Constitution would arise and at this point government leaders who were Mormons would be involved in answering that question.”[5]

  40. 137 Troy December 5, 2011 at 6:36 am

    Newt is definitely a “used car salesman” and he is DAMN GOOD at it….Sometimes he even almost fools me and I’m one that knows better than to believe his BS.

    The GOP / RNC has seen to it that either Newt or Rom gets the ticket….They are okay with either….We’re screwed with either!

    The two/one party system has got to be done away with!

    Our country is lost – it’s gone….What we see is no more than a shell of it….The parasites have eaten away the innards and left the carcass as a sort of camouflage to hide under….Very similar to the Trojan Horse…..No legal or peaceful means are ever going to get it back….Vote until you are blue in the face – it won’t matter or help the situation….The strongest part of their stranglehold is the concocted illusion that, “if you don’t like what you see then go out and vote to change it” — what a freakin’ JOKE!

    There is only one way our country can ever be taken back and it will involve some red stuff in the streets of DC….The Tea Party was peaceful and look what it got in return – co-opted, that’s what.

    The problem is that the good patriotic people of this country have a sense of fairness and mercy…..Fairness needs to be suspended during an all out merciless revolution…..There are a lot of guilty players that need to be made an example of in a way that would repulse the average person….The criminals need to be shocked into knowing that “we the people” mean business.

    Sad thing is – none of this is ever going to happen…..The American populace at large, just like the Jews of WWII, are voluntarily marching themselves onward to their own demise….They would rather be a slave or die than to do the unthinkable.

    Nobody, in their right mind wants violent revolution, but that’s the only thing that the DC criminals would be fearful of….And make no mistake about it, a healthy and fair government is one that fears the wrath of the people.

  41. 141 jane December 5, 2011 at 8:42 am

    well, well, well, NOW they want to federalize WATER.



  42. 144 sky December 5, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Breaking news Newts Gingrich’s Amnesty Plan political vel craft website, good articals here

  43. 147 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Do you think Trump’s ego is just a little out there? Trump is disingenuous and a puppet of the banksters. Speaking of actors…Trump’s entire life is a reality TV show.

  44. 148 usapatriots-shout December 5, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Check This Out –Just Too Delicious

    This was in my morning’s email:

    Obama Accused Of Sexual Harassment While at Harvard Law Review(Multiple Accusers)

    Conservatove Talk Org ^ | 11/8/11 | Conservative Talk
    Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 4:41:42 PM by xuberalles
    This is interesting, however Chris “TEEBALL” Mathews has not reported it. Typical

    During Barack Obama’s tenure as the president of the Harvard Law Review in the late 1980s, at least two male student editors complained to colleagues and senior university officials about inappropriate behavior by Obama, ultimately leaving their positions at the journal, multiple sources confirm to THE KANSAS CITIAN.

    The men complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Obama that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the university that gave them financial payouts to leave the journal. The agreements also included language that bars the men from talking about their departures.

    In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Obama and his administration repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the journal. They have also declined to address questions about specific reporting confirming that there were financial settlements in two cases in which men leveled complaints.

    THE KANSAS CITIAN has confirmed the identities of the two male journal editors who complained about Obama but, for privacy concerns, is not publishing their names.

    White House spokesman Jay Carney told THE KANSAS CITIAN the president indicated to White House staff that he was “vaguely familiar” with the charges and that the university’s general counsel had resolved the matter.

    Obama was president of the Harvard Law Review from late-1988 to mid-1989. THE KANSAS CITIAN learned of the allegations against him, and over the course of several weeks, has put together accounts of what happened by talking to a lengthy roster of former university officials, current and past students and others familiar with the workings of the journal at the time Obama was there.

    In one case, THE KANSAS CITIAN has seen documentation describing the allegations and showing that the university formally resolved the matter. Both men received separation packages that were in the five-figure range.

    On the details of Obama’s allegedly inappropriate behavior with the two men, THE KANSAS CITIAN has a half-dozen sources shedding light on different aspects of the complaints.

    The sources — including the recollections of close associates and other documentation — describe episodes that left the men upset and offended. These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned journal events and at the journal’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made men who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.

    UPDATE: Third man comes forward to AP.

    A third former editor says he considered filing a workplace complaint over what he considered aggressive and unwanted behavior by Barack Obama when he worked under the president in the 1991 at the University of Chicago. He says the behavior included a private invitation to his apartment.

    He worked for the University of Chicago when he was a Visiting Law and Government Fellow. He told The Associated Press that Obama made sexually suggestive remarks or gestures about the same time that the two editors of the Harvard Law Review had settled separate harassment complaints against him. The employee described situations in which he said Obama told him he had confided to colleagues how attractive he was and invited him to his apartment outside work. He spoke on condition of anonymity, saying he feared retaliation. The White House declined to comment.

    TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Humor; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections

    KEYWORDS: barackobama; cainparody; election2012; hermancain; humor; satire; sexualharassment Karma. All of these women who have come forward against Cain either have a history of filing complaints, have ties to Obama/the Democratic party, and/or have financial problems. Sorry, but this whole thing just stinks; especially when you consider the timing and Cain’s frontrunner status. Whether you support him or not, this fiasco represents the type of tactics they will use against any Republican who wins the nomination.

  45. 150 Jan December 5, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    I know it probably goes against the grain of every Conservative, however, I firmly believe it is time to take the gloves off and start dishing out the crap the Dems want us to eat.

  46. 152 Jan December 5, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    If this would work, I would gladly volunteer. Sent from a friend
    Between the Patriot Act and this we are now at the mercy of The Dictator in Chief. These people are living on a different planet.

    Time to gather 535 people and go to DC. Each person gets assigned either 1 Congress person or 1 Senator and we converge on their offices and FIRE THEM!!! I REFUSE to vote for ANY incumbent. We need to send a loud message. THEY all go even the few good ones. Replace them all.


    • 153 heather December 5, 2011 at 6:32 pm

      The question is who takes cares of all of their body guards while we oust the 536 of them? Of course if we did this, they would call the entire DC police dpt, the pentagon, CIA, FBI and DHS to take us out-so there are more than 536 to worry about.

      If we had the military backing, oh for sure this could work, but without our enforces, we are prisoners.

  47. 154 no-nonsense-nancy December 5, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    If they try to suspend the election it is essential that we have a mass of people in DC fighting it. We need a hugh mass in DC to turn this country around. Nothing else is going to do it. If it’s bloody, then so be it. Are we going to be free or slaves? We have millions and they are a few in comparison. We need to end the party system, make everyone in congress go and shut down the government. Our founding fathers and mothers would be very ashamed of us at this point. We have NO guts!! We are all talk and no action. We need to rid this country of the biased media and install real investigative reporters. Stop listening to them. If nobody listened to them they couldn’t spew out all of this propaganda and lies. When the counaray was set up they had a unanimous vote for G. Washington. We can have a unanimous vote for Ron Paul.
    We don’t have to tolerate this circus over electing a president. If we wanta our constiitution then we have to fight for it. This is a matter of life or death, not only in the country but in our very lives!!!

  48. 155 SirLurksAlot December 5, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    Has the destruction of Newt begun? Pelosi waiting to be uncaged…

    • 156 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 4:42 pm

      Nothing would please me more than to watch Pelosi and Gingrich have an open public sharing of what they know about each other. Satan’s sister and Screwtape revealing each others magician’s tricks. Now I would buy a ticket to that show. Somehow, I suspect they would both enjoy the human sacrifice of the other. Nancy is just jealous that she didn’t get to join Newt at the Cremation of Care ceremony when he attended the Bohemian Grove boys club.

  49. 157 Katie December 5, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Did you ever imagine you’d live to see this?

    “It’s Time.”

    It is time for the old “Congress of the Confederation” to reconvene operations under the Articles of Confederation; to declare to the world its emergency authority, as delegated by the several States, and then to exercise that authority so as to seize temporary control of the United States government by:

  50. 159 jane December 5, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    There will be no election. We are being setup for martial law as a result of both parties betrayal last week.

    Mark my words on this.

  51. 162 jane December 5, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    traitors …all of them…they need to be taken out by force and retired without any benefits, except for prison.

  52. 163 Troy December 5, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Some very sound advice.
    Various Resources
    Posted by Ann Barnhardt – December 5, AD 2011 1:54 PM MST

  53. 164 Troy December 5, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    The “dynamic duo”

    Barry and Nancy sittin’ in a tree
    P – I – S – S – I – N – G
    All over you, all over me
    Gettin’ my chainsaw
    And it ain’t for the tree

  54. 165 Troy December 5, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Latest Ulsterman “Insider” report
    WHITE HOUSE INSIDER ON OBAMA: I’d Kick His Ass Into The F-cking Dirt…

  55. 167 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    FYI, our gracious host Dr. Kate should be back with us soon. She has been attending to out of town family, memorial service and family details…a lot of closure. All is well as far as I know.

  56. 171 heather December 5, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    oh just let him defund SS–he and his band of thugs have already depleted the stock market in 08 of our retirement and it hasn’t recouped yet. each time the market goes up the next day its down, just enough for them to steal what we make. what a freakn band of coward thieves, continuing to steal from us with the right hand and the left is lying their butts off to our faces.

    oh its beyond time to remove all of them……………arrest them all – lets use his EO of indefinite detention on them. since he wrote it, lets try it out, on them!

    • 172 Tenacity December 5, 2011 at 11:15 pm

      If you want to know the closer to reality numbers on the stock market, compare the price of gold to the price in 2008. Then multiply that ratio times the price of the Dow today. Dec 5 2008 Au was $750/oz, today $1,744. That ratio of .43 X $12,098 = Real adjusted Dow Value today of $5,202. Gold has still not exceeded its inflation adjusted high of 1979. Now there is some reality for you.

      • 173 heather December 5, 2011 at 11:20 pm

        When my youngest son was 7 yrs old he used to ask my boss everyday what the price of gold was! BTW–my youngest is a real brain and is 35 today! Needless to say, my boss got the biggest kick out of that and always told everyone what a 7 yr old was interested in!

        And for those interested in buying gold, buy physical gold…I do not believe in buying certificates–they can be traced by the IRS.

  57. 174 Starla December 6, 2011 at 4:33 am





    National Defense Authorization Act: The End of America

    ♫ “And the combination of pure corruption and pure ignorance will be the death of this country!!”

    ♫ “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” Thomas Jefferson

    ♫ “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” George Orwell

    * * * *

    Stewart Rhodes: Senate Has Declared War on American People 1/3



    By Joseph Zernik, Ph.D., blogging at Human Rights Alert
    December 5, 2011


    “Let’s recognize it, once and for all: this is a lawless nation, through organized state crime – the Banking-Justice Racket (BJR) – the People are driven into bankruptcy.

    Read The Full Article Here:

    * * * *

  58. 175 chris December 6, 2011 at 4:48 am

    Trump is asking at Fox news why obama and his mother’s records are not in any of the Hawaii hospitals.
    Maybe Trump is hinting to the R pres candidates to address obama’s eligibility issue?!
    What a good time to bring it up again on the air!

    Please everyone, contact the R candidates to ask them these simple questions to let them know they must hammer obama on his eligibility!

    Are you an article 2 natural born citizen of USA?

    Were you born in USA? What supporting (hard-copy, not digital image) document do you have?
    Are both your parents USA citizens at time of your birth? Any hard-copy documentary proofs? ”

    Bombard them with these questions. Accumulate their replies and bring them back to them to ask why obama does not have to answer these questions and show proofs whereas you R pres candidates have to.

    • 176 Tenacity December 6, 2011 at 8:48 am

      While you’re at it, you might want to ask Newt why he divorced his wives and Mitt what it means to be a High Priest. I’m sure they will appreciate the bombardment and change their thinking because of it.

      Maybe Trump is making for good distraction and promoting his new reality series, “Making a Joke Out of the American Election System” The man has no respect for anything or anyone and loves the limelight and money. He is the perfect distraction for the banksters.

      Btw Chris, who are you supporting?

    • 180 Tenacity December 6, 2011 at 11:56 am

      To a limited extent, it is already here. On top of the fear of the Federal Reserve Note approaching its intrinsic value of near zero driving people to precious metals and other commodities, the banksters have limited the money supply available to American businesses. While they have had the printing presses rolling on the FRN, they have not made that QE available for the U.S. economy, only a facade of such. This coupled with bad debt reducing banks’ reserve deposits has greatly tightened the lending environment. Right now, the Euro seems to be in bigger trouble than the FRN, but that may be an illusion. How long can or will the banksters keep that illusion in place…only time will tell.

    • 183 cedartree December 6, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      levonorgestrel sort of hardens the uterine walls against any attachment of a fertilized egg, so in that regard it could be construed to be an abortifacient
      it also prevents ovulation and makes hostile cervical mucus for spermatazoa, so in that regard it is an anticonception agent

  59. 184 Quantum Leap December 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    Have you signed the petition to support Dr Paul at

    There is so much silly false info out there on Dr Paul that’s it’s a shame.

    ( – When Republicans and Independents who are planning to attend next month’s Iowa Republican caucuses were asked who they believe is the “most principled” candidate in the Republican field, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas ranked first with 24 percent, according to a Des Moines Register poll released Sunday.

    Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota was second with 17 percent, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ranked third with 14 percent.

    The Des Moines Register poll, conducted Nov. 27-30, asked 401 likely Republican caucusgoers: “Regardless of which candidate you support as your first choice, which one would you say is most principled?”

    The full results for the question were as follows:

    Ron Paul 24 percent

    Michele Bachmann 17 percent

    Mitt Romney 14 percent

    Rick Santorum 11 percent

    Newt Gingrich 11 percent

    None/Not sure 10 percent

    Rick Perry 7 percent

    Herman Cain 4 percent

    Jon Huntsman` 2 percent

    When the likely Republican caucus goers were asked who would be their first choice for president, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia was first with 25 percent, followed by Paul with 18 percent and Romney with 16 percent.

    The poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points

    • 186 drkate December 6, 2011 at 1:42 pm

      Like OWS, this is a trial balloon which is basically threatening anyone who wants to ensure voter integrity. If they get the ear of Clinton, and she supports them at the UN, or Susan Rice, then it really is bad news. But perhaps someone will ask the question…why is it that only the blacks are doing the attacking of whites? Like the flash mobs… the NAACP should lose ALL of its federal funding.

    • 188 drkate December 6, 2011 at 2:14 pm

      This is why we should not pay any more federal income taxes! Who gave them the right to do this? I agree, very bad news…just as bad as promoting race riots, the so called Arab Spring, and pushing gay rights on school children!

      • 189 heather December 6, 2011 at 4:38 pm

        Dear Lord, when will this evil end? If I had small kids and they shoved this crap at them at school, you better believe I would be there with my lawyers. Parents stand up for your kids and maybe then this will be a starting point to end this game they are playing against us.

        As far as promoting this overseas–good luck hillary and barry, the muslims will have none of this. Is this part of their arab spring that they destroyed the countries leaders.

        What gives hillary and barry the right to dictate who is the leader of another country…..this is making america into an empire of tyrannical dictators.

        This is not the american way.

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