Occupy Wall Street Open Thread–update

©2012 drkate

The OWS hustler’s origin defined:

Open thread.

Update.  As promised, I infiltrated an OWS organizing meeting here in my city about a week ago, to learn their tactics, targets and philosophy.  They used Trayvon Martin to indicate how a single event can act as a catalyst for all kinds of action, and insisted that our country was a democracy.  As such, because of majority rule, the OWS believes it is entitled to that which the “1%” own whether OWS earned it or not.  Easy to see why they call themselves the 99% then, they want your stuff.  They specifically are targeting the Tea Party and ‘through non-violence, hope to provoke the Tea Party into violence’.  The concept of ‘servant government’ was viewed as an OWS innovation, rather than our republic’s design.  When queried as to why they believe we are a democracy, the response was ‘that is not a fair question’.  My overall impression is that this is a movement devoid of human dignity, God, and any respect for our Constitution or Founding fathers.  The want to ‘blame’ their failure on–as Bill Whittle says above–a bunch of old dead white guys.  The entire movement meeting did not have one person of color in the meeting. The dream I had that night was of Satan telling me in no uncertain terms he was going to kill me.  I didn’t take it personally–Satan wants us all dead, including the OWSers, who he is using to accomplish his unholy work.

128 Responses to “Occupy Wall Street Open Thread–update”


  1. 1 no-nonsense-nancy April 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    I don’t thi nk this is really Obama. do you guys? But it is a cute ad.

  2. 3 drkate April 28, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    h/t Troy, continued from last thread. OWS masks this very important problem–what this series. Gaffney infiltrated CAIR:

  3. 5 Ann April 28, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    Breaking News!!! COINCIDENCE? LA County Coroner Official Dies Under ‘Suspicious Circumstances’ Same Week As Full Breitbart Cause of Death Report to Be Released; Poisoning Suspected…

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/poisoning-suspected-in-sudden-death-of-coroners-official.html

  4. 10 drkate April 28, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Jen Stefano on Occupy panel at CPAC 2012

  5. 14 Troy April 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Obama designated driver for ‘road to socialism’
    Communist Party calls allies to unite behind Oval Office
    http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/obama-designated-driver-for-road-to-socialism/?cat_orig=politics

  6. 22 Jan Rogers April 28, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    OMG, check out Cmdr Kirschner’s blog
    http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2012/04/28/president-james-monroe-and-the-natural-born-citizen-clause-by-mario-apuzzo-esq/

    also Also, for some historical information and a report about all our U.S. Presidents and their citizenship status when elected see this report: http://www.scribd.com/doc/48856102/U-S-Presidents-Eligibility-Grandfather-Clause-Natural-Born-Citizen-Clause-or-Seated-by-Fraud

    • 24 no-nonsense-nancy April 29, 2012 at 8:42 am

      Tampa, here we come!!

      For our primary day in PA this past Tuesday I spent days passing out Ron Paul super brochures with a list of the delegate candidates pleged to him for people to vote for. That was on the side of town where I don’t vote. On election day I did the same thing at my precinct all day. I really stressed the imoortance of voting for the right delegates. My ballot for my congressional district had 3 delegate candidates and 3 alternates. It was well worth my time because every one of the list of 6 that I handed out won!!!

      • 25 drkate April 29, 2012 at 9:56 am

        😀 Good work, NNN!

      • 26 Tenacity April 29, 2012 at 5:07 pm

        Nancy, I was proud to have participated in Dr. Paul’s Colorado victory and it is exciting to see you doing the same. Congratulations!! Does anyone now doubt that this is an endurance contest? The bankster controlled media be damned! The people are no longer listening…at least enough are now tuning out the propaganda and holding the course. Keep spreading the word as we need a little more to cross the tipping point.

        • 27 no-nonsense-nancy April 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm

          Actually, I’m a little confused. I have seen another list and I may have only gotten one delegate. I have to find out which is the corredt count. But I will continue to promote him. I feel in my bones that we have a very good chance to get him nominated. on election day I was working close with 2 very nice gentlemen, repubs, but they had conversation all day assuming Romney will be the nomminee. I wanted to scream. There I was standing in front of 2 RP signs that I put there and one really good one that I made myself. I hope this country is so shocked when the convention comes!!
          Does anyone else think Sick Rantorum may try to sneak back in since the PA primary is over with the excuse that his daughter is through her crisis?

      • 28 Quantum Leap May 1, 2012 at 6:59 pm

        {{{{{{{high five}}}}}}}}
        chug-a-lug all the way to Tampa.
        Do you believe in miracles. -Mariah Carey.

  7. 30 sky April 29, 2012 at 8:52 am

    We need to dig into Salah Osseiman,the last they run a shell game jihad as the tip of the islamic financial calip enslaving DHS,FBI,OSHA,EPA.=muslim brother hood?Corporations need to get out of the Rothschilds banks,now. Reuters is owned by the rothschilds.

  8. 36 Voco Indubium April 29, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Attn.: Steven Lee Craig

    RE: Fortress or legal loopholes? Or both?

    RE: #1 (“The 1st being that the definition of NBC has been ignored in large measure and deliberately made obscure by both the passing of time and particular political interests, (and apparently in a non-partisan way by the two major parties). “

    When you call them loopholes, immediately legal loopholes come to mind. This is not a legal loophole it is “political interest” in your terms, and “fortress” in my analogy.

    #2 is a legal loophole. (“The 2nd being the lack of specific ‘vetting measures’ being a part of the State Election Codes:) and so are the other points you made.

    RE: “Defeatism requires one to surrender, to which I say, “NUTS”.”

    Judge Anderson statement gave you a vindication – no doubt. Your courage and tenaciousness are admired by many, including the writer of these words. Where our opinion is deviating that you implicitly you assume (as Leo and the others did) that if we just find the correct legal approach, the right definition, the use of the right words, a way around the legal loopholes, the courts will have no choice but rule correctly. This includes the implicit assumption that the courts are interpreting the law to their best ability to protect the constitution.

    In my humble opinion, this is not taking place during this term of the Regime or in the next one. If you take even a cursory look at the various eligibility court cases, two things are apparent:

    1. Often a judge who initially appears to be determined to “get to the end” impartially, at subsequent hearings takes a 180 degree turn.

    2. Some of these highly learned judges make statements that a 6th grader would not take seriously. For example, the judge who implied that twittering was equivalent to vetting. Or the one who would not grant Alen Keyes standing because the statistical probability was too small for the success of his election.

    It reminds one of the Cosa Nostra movies when the elimination of one soldier is ordered, and his friend is to do it – and the friend says: “old buddy this is not personal, it is ordered”. Some of these judges seem to signal by these ridicules statements, excuses like: Sorry citizens it was ordered. Forget the constitution for a while.

    In summary, legal actions are good and useful but political action is a must, because without political action the courts keep stonewalling no matter how many legal-loopholes are defeated.

  9. 37 Troy April 29, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    Watch it!

    • 41 drkate April 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

      Actually, I think this kicks the can down the road again, and ignores states rights. Also the author incorrectly states that the only issue at hand is whether Obama was born before or after Obama sr got his US citizenship–which he never had US citizenship.

      • 42 Voco Indubium April 30, 2012 at 12:31 am

        RE: “Actually, I think this kicks the can down the road again, and ignores states rights….”

        Exactly.

        There is no news at this link. But there is an error as DrKate pointed out above.

      • 43 Rosemary Woodhouse April 30, 2012 at 7:38 pm

        Whenever a foreigner marries an American aren’t they granted citizenship? Having written that, although we’ve seen a divorce decree, I don’t recall ever having seen a marriage license. Then again, it’s difficult to obtain a divorce if one has never married. Has anyone seen the O/Dunham marriage license?

  10. 46 Troy April 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    The body count and rising….Which one of us will be next???

    Deaths connected to the Obama White House

    http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm

  11. 61 Voco Indubium April 30, 2012 at 1:57 pm

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/gop-lawmaker-eligibility-too-scary-to-take-on/

    Too scary for GOP?

    What nonsense. And this guy calls himself a constitutionalist? They really believe that they can keep this under the carpet forever?

    At least they are acknowledging that the probability of what they were told repeatedly since 2008 can be a reality. I am not a name caller – but now I am close to it.

    • 62 Jan Rogers April 30, 2012 at 3:05 pm

      Voco, the only thing the Repubs and Dems are afraid of is going to jail along with the obat.

    • 63 heather April 30, 2012 at 9:16 pm

      It’s only scary for them since they were and are all in on this usurption together which means they are all traitors against america and the american people. If I were anyone of them and continued this lie and fraud, I too would be afraid, afraid of being killed at a moments notice just for knowing!

      • 64 Voco Indubium May 1, 2012 at 2:26 pm

        Quote from the link:

        ‘…worried that investigating Obama’s potential violation of that Constitution would create tremendous .. can you imagine the constitutional crisis that would ensue?”
        … “Because of how big that would be, I simply do not believe that an investigation by a volunteer posse of the sheriff gives enough credibility to this issue to really push this issue.”…’

        In other words the GOP is now pretending that they want to keep the fraud under the rug, in order not to hurt the country with a constitutional crisis that essentially the opposition party caused. Does that make sense, especially in an election year?

        • 65 drkate May 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm

          Yawn. that’s what we heard from them in 2009. Looks like they are retreading arguments again.

  12. 66 foxyladi14 April 30, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    ROCK ON RON PAUL, ,RON PAUL 2012 !!! 🙂

  13. 67 Tenacity April 30, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    From Fulford’s blog:
    04/27/2012
    RE: who is Drake ?
    is he a person to trust ?
    he was introduced to us by david wilcock
    and right after that david was gone , no more communication

    Hello,
    My own primary sources tell me Drake is US military and that he is limited in what he is allowed to talk about. As with all this sort of feel good news, believe it only when you see it. However, there is plenty to see out there now to show that the bad guys are in full retreat.

    • 68 Tenacity April 30, 2012 at 5:42 pm

      IF there is an element of truth in what Fulford revealed above, then knowing that Drake is a, if not the, White Hat tells me that http://www.tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/ falls under “is limited in what he is allowed to talk about”. The obvious questions are; limited by whom and why? If any of you have the time, please look at this most recent report and see if you can verify any of it. If this is military propaganda, which it could be, then what are they not telling us?

      Let me summarize a statement from what I now deem as a reliable source. They* allow/even dissiminate opposition language because the people/goyim accept words for deeds and take no action while slipping deeper into a state where their actions will eventually be useless.

      • 69 Jan Rogers April 30, 2012 at 6:17 pm

        Heard last from Fulford on 4-14
        Today from Wanta
        Last from Drake on 4-29

      • 70 drkate April 30, 2012 at 6:39 pm

        This is my guess:

        (1) Arrests are happening but not of the cabal–they are arresting the whistleblowers who will never live to tell the tale
        (2) Large scale transactions are happening behind closed doors, further sealing the fate of the people around the world
        (3) The gold is being stashed in the now closed mine in Chile, known only to a few
        (4) The cabal is continuing to build their underground homes
        (5) All patriotic military are being murdered and purged from the system
        (6) White Hats continue to be black hats in disguise.
        😛

        • 71 drkate April 30, 2012 at 7:12 pm

          Oh, and one more thing. The spaceships will arrive and all light workers will be transported to the Moon or to Mars for better living.

          • 72 Rosemary Woodhouse April 30, 2012 at 7:43 pm

            Oh thank goodness you added this disclaimer ^^^. Reading the preceding remark I had one of those “oh no!” moments!🙂

        • 73 Tenacity April 30, 2012 at 9:45 pm

          Just in case anyone thought I was giving any credibility to any of these folks…think again. Perhaps my message that I don’t trust any of these folks was not as evident as I intended.

    • 74 Troy April 30, 2012 at 8:33 pm

      There are some that claim Fulford is an Illuminati disinfo agent.

      • 75 drkate April 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm

        I think this whole thing is a ruse designed to distract us, make our efforts not worth anything. I have heard that on fulford too and am inclined to believe that. Nothing he has said or White Hats have said have come true. And who does it benefit? The very cabal they think they are critiquing

  14. 77 Jan Rogers April 30, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    More on FEMA Camps and Executive Orders (all on one page) plus Rex 84, Garden Plot, Cable Splicer and much more information

    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

  15. 78 heather April 30, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    pure white skies for days here–every time we get blue skies, they make sure they spray heavily so we get these storms–this weather is man made-which we all know.

    • 79 drkate April 30, 2012 at 9:51 pm

      Radioactive fallout on its way

      • 80 heather April 30, 2012 at 10:11 pm

        First I have to get through tonights storms before I can worry about that—hopefully tomorrow the winds will change and send the fallout somewhere other than the US. This entire man made weather and haarp/chemtrails will eventually affect these criminals and no tunnel they build will ever protect them…..they will either stay underground forever or the tunnel exits/entrances will collaspe keeping these criminals in the hell holes they deserve.

        • 81 drkate April 30, 2012 at 10:12 pm

          God be with you Heather!

          • 82 heather April 30, 2012 at 10:26 pm

            Thank you Dr Kate–he always is—I pray that he delivers us from the evil criminals behind this terror and keep the people safe and the storms to vaporize–and he shows me his power every time! Miracles happen–I have seen them and continue to see them through our Lord–He is our only salvation – not man!

            I will be up most of the night again watching our local weather which is so high tech that it corralates with dutches. Tomorrow I will sleep, tonight I will be on guard and stay with our Lord.

  16. 85 Jan Rogers April 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Dutch from the 29th, the explosion in Japan and where the storm clouds are. Been over my house for two days, light rain today, lots of wind, water in bird bath is bright redish/orange

  17. 94 Jan Rogers April 30, 2012 at 11:17 pm

    sorry, here is the link for Dutch

    • 95 heather May 1, 2012 at 12:32 am

      how convenient that there was a massive storm when this exploded–.

      btw-our new term for haarp rings is bow flex! one of the meterologist’s refered the rings as haarp rings and i think he was corrected immediately because after that everything was bow flex. hmmm makes me wonder why the word change.

  18. 96 heather May 1, 2012 at 12:18 am

    It’s 2:15 am and the storm is still over us. Massive lightening, thunder, nickel size hail and miraculously so far no wind in my area but plenty of downpouring rain. I absolutely hate these storms and never in my life have I experienced such massive storms no matter where I have lived. Hopefully within the next half an hr they will be out of my area.

  19. 97 Bob's Box May 1, 2012 at 3:38 am

    Kurt Haskell to run for Congress from MI.

  20. 98 heather May 1, 2012 at 7:40 am

    finally at 3am it settled down some but we continued to pounding rain and T&L–it finally ended around 4am.

    this morning is beautiful (for now)and our radar showed absolutely NO WINDS at all in my area——-ahhh the power of prayer and love of our father—proves he watches over each one of us–AWESOME!

    now maybe this morning I will be able to go into a deep sleep.

    • 100 Jan Rogers May 1, 2012 at 12:08 pm

      Maybe the sounds are coming from the Gov’t underground tunnels? They could be enlarging them or sending their trains from one to the other?
      Of course “they” know what it is, but we might never find out the truth.

  21. 101 heather May 1, 2012 at 8:50 am

    OT-very strange now that i think back on last night. when i finally was able to go to bed and before i went into a deep sleep i felt deep earth rumbling for about 45 seconds, no noise, no shaking, just heavy deep rumbling. Oddly though I can’t find anything today in any media about this. I have felt this rumbling before – I can only describe it as a silent earthquake.

  22. 102 sky May 1, 2012 at 10:32 am

    Its time to stop this privatizations of public parks,There are people who want to camp and have land to play on,not a bunch of condoes,&homes,and a high price to get in.I know a lot of fishermen who like to camp,or RV,maybe a golf course,pool,a hotel,land to have picnics,The federal goverment,or is it the UN dictating what they are using this public land for,and the state goverment cant defend the public.Its time to stop developers,doing what ever they want to the parks,heard about a person wanting to sale to foreign countries.

    • 103 heather May 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm

      it’s the state dept that is controlling the land–in 2008 i flew from philly to dallas with 17 muslims-all from different parts of the arab states with a state dept man who was giving these people grand tours of all of our national parks. they were in the US for 30 days viewing our lands and having a blast. i was placed in the last row of the plane with a manager of the kabul gardens from afganistan, and some manager from qatar. they shared their itineray with me and showed me their travel brochures.

      i could only imagine at that time they were here on a buying mission.

  23. 104 Jan Rogers May 1, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    Obat on the ground in Afghanistan, think we could bribe them to keep him there?

  24. 107 Durus May 1, 2012 at 2:31 pm

    Tuesday, May 1, 2012
    Fox News Is Spreading False Information on the Meaning of a “Natural Born Citizen”
    Fox News Is Spreading False Information on the Meaning of a “Natural Born
    Citizen”

    By Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
    May 1, 2012

    Read this article entitled, “Bret explains “natural born citizen” requirements for president and vice president, posted at http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/blog/2012/05/01/bret-explains-natural-born-citizen-requirements-president-and-vice-president#ixzz1tdaf5KNc . The post is by a Katy Ricalde. She posts the argument of Bret Baier as to how a “natural born Citizen” is defined. Baier argues that since the Constitution does not define a “natural born Citizen,” the Constitution allows Congress to do so through its naturalization statutes such as those found at 8 U.S.C. Sec. 1401 et seq. He concludes that any Congressional Act which makes one a “citizen of the United States” from the moment of birth is a “natural born Citizen,” regardless of where or to whom born.

    Read more:
    http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/05/fox-news-is-spreading-false-information.html

  25. 108 no-nonsense-nancy May 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm

    How much did we pay for him to fly over there to say what he could have said from his office which he is never in? He’s usurping and office that he is never in!

    • 109 drkate May 1, 2012 at 8:21 pm

      This was a distraction from the OWS violence today in Oakland CA as they start their spring offensive

    • 110 heather May 1, 2012 at 8:52 pm

      Yeah NNN and why aren’t all of them using telecommuting instead of wasting our money and fuel.

      • 111 sky May 2, 2012 at 1:32 pm

        We need to find out what oil comapny they use for their travel?We need to come down on whoever is letting this happen of our energy needed here,maybe the price will go down,or for our use in a real emergency,this is financial stealing,Obama has a whitehouse office to work in,The oil company or who is involved with fueling his airplanes,need to stop now,unless for emergencies.If obama has any thing to say he can do it at the whitehouse.

  26. 112 Jan Rogers May 1, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    If this is a double post, I’m sorry, not on my computer so working my way around.
    Bret Bair on FOX is going to take on the eligibility issue. Let’s pray he picks the right people to interview

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/fox-news-anchor-declares-obama-is-eligible/

    • 113 heather May 1, 2012 at 8:51 pm

      What is he stupid! OMG–I can’t believe these people have college degrees and they’re this stupid.

      Pure ignorance on his part. He better have Corsi interpret the truth….or Dr Manning or anyone that has a brain in their head–its obvious by the article that he doesn’t.

      • 114 Voco Indubium May 1, 2012 at 9:16 pm

        There are two possibilities:

        1. Carelessly shooting off his mouth, without doing the minimum amount of reading.

        2. He is an Obot

        Fox management should be asked to provide a correction publicly.

      • 118 SallyAl May 2, 2012 at 10:57 am

        You can bet that whoever they have on to discuss it will be “hand selected” so there will be no argument or dissent. I despise watching Fox discussion panels. They just allow people to make statements and let them go unchallenged. I get furious. I really only watch Lou Dobbs and sometimes in the am while getting ready for work I have Fox & Friends on. Wish the Judge was still on.

  27. 119 heather May 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    Dr. Kate/Ten—please tell me that these countries that we are making war in are paying for our troops. Surely we are not there out of the goodness of our hearts—somewhere, someone is paying for our troops and whose pockets are getting lined.

    • 120 drkate May 1, 2012 at 10:41 pm

      Are you kidding? We are paying for all of it!

      • 121 heather May 2, 2012 at 3:13 pm

        I realize we are being taxed on this, but I also don’t think we are doing this for free–somewhere along the way someone from their countries are handing over cash to these corrupt criminals. Of course we will never see the cash, nor will it be used to pay our troops, but its going somewhere with someone. No one does anything for free — especially this govt–.

  28. 122 SirLurksAlot May 2, 2012 at 5:40 am

    A little off topic but is it worth having a discussion about the idea that this is the eleventh aniversary of Osama’s death?

  29. 126 cedartree May 2, 2012 at 10:18 am

    FOX “news” recent traitorous betrayal in its coverage of what a natural born citizen is, leads us back to the origins of their lies…the Saudis. Sometimes I think all the marxist/socialism stuff is just misdirection. Obama sees himself as caliph.
    http://stop-obama-now.net/saudis-own-obama-fox/
    “The doctrine of Obama’s sect in Chicago, based on Black Liberation Theology, holds that the black race has a divine mission to destroy America, white society and the traditional church. This is quite compatible with the thinking of the Saudi dictator. Obama is owned by the Saudis and Fox News is ultimately controlled by the Saudis. Fox spends a lot of time reporting on radical Muslims, just not the one, who owns them.

    The current so-called “democratic” revolutions in the Middle East may result in the formation of something like a new Caliphate, a global kingdom for all of Islam. This would be a totalitarian Islamic superstate, possessing nuclear weapons and controlled by terrorists. The Obama administration has been supporting and even instigating the overthrow of the old regimes throughout the Middle East.

    Obama’s self-described “spiritual guide” studied the Tijaniyya branch of Sufism for six years, a black religious order and earlier form of the Muslim Brotherhood, and wrote his Master’s Thesis at the Chicago Divinity Schoool on the Tijaniyya. The Tijaniyya movement has been revived in recent decades and holds a belief that a “divine flood” will unite all of the many individual mystical Islamic brotherhoods into one great brotherhood and foretells the coming of an Islamic Mahdi, or messiah. Saudi Wahabbism is allied with the Muslim Brotherhood, which is probably why Saudi Arabia has not been troubled with the “Arab Spring” uprisings.”


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