Obama’s International Gun and Missile Running

©drkate 2012

Part I:  Foundations

Gun Runner

Gun Runner

Trafficking in weapons is one of the criminal characteristics of the Obama regime. We have suspected known that the Benghazi murders had something to do with American weapons delivered to Libyan rebels.  But whether Ambassador Stevens was retrieving them, setting up a transfer of the same weapons to Syrian rebels via Turkey, was a target of a hostage plot, or had uncovered Obama’s involvement and had to be eliminated –won’t be known until the final layer is peeled off the onion.

Whatever the truth of this ‘international fast and furious’, the Benghazi terror had something to do with the 2012 election and keeping focus off Obama’s ineligibility and performance.  But the murder of four Americans almost blew the whole cover off the core weapons operation and necessitated the outright and overt theft of the 2012 election.

How did Al Queda in Benghazi get a ‘smart bomb’?  Was Obama afraid the stinger missiles he supplied them would be used to shoot down rescue aircraft, blowing his cover?  Where did the Syrian rebels get SAMS?

The Mockingbird aspect of this has been the endless cover stories designed to scatter the focus…the film, a demonstration, terrorism, al queda or an off-shoot; the generals and clandestine affairs…the fake closed door hearing and feigned outrage…the blaming of Qatar…then crickets….oh the fiscal cliff, the punishment, banning, or retirement of the so-called conservatives… The number of generals dismissed and murders we don’t know about could be large.  Something big happened in Benghazi that caused a major ‘change of plans’.

Gunrunner-Obama’s team includes Eric Holder Holdup–weapons dealing since 1993– Valerie Jarrett, Hillary Clinton, the CIA, Janet Napolitano, and  Leon Panetta.  They have stepped into the shoes and operations of those before them, with a suitcase full of tools, deceptions, poisons, weapons, money and drugs at their disposal.

Where did this all begin?

Consider this a Black Ops Open Thread.

340 Responses to “Obama’s International Gun and Missile Running”

  1. 1 drkate December 8, 2012 at 12:49 am

    This interview is well worth the time…notice the family names in these operations…

    Bush is known for his small plane assassinations. Remember Ross Perot’s staff of 12? John Tower? Heinz? JFK Jr and Sr?

    Stay awake!

  2. 3 Pamela Barnett December 8, 2012 at 1:35 am

    can you get a FB like button on your website for your posts?

  3. 6 typistjan December 8, 2012 at 2:51 am

    Wow, this should be a good one.

  4. 8 typistjan December 8, 2012 at 4:55 am

    Went looking for info on Ted Gunderson (lots of it) rest his soul. This is a two min vid on Chem Trails

  5. 9 Troy December 8, 2012 at 2:02 pm

    What a mind he had !!!

    Thomas Jefferson

    This is amazing. There are two parts. Be sure to read the 2nd part.

    Thomas Jefferson was a very remarkable man who started learning very early in life and never stopped.
    At 5, began studying under his cousin’s tutor.
    At 9, studied Latin, Greek and French.
    At 14, studied classical literature and additional languages.
    At 16, entered the College of William and Mary.
    At 19, studied Law for 5 years starting under George Wythe.
    At 23, started his own law practice.
    At 25, was elected to the Virginia House of Burgesses.
    At 31, wrote the widely circulated “Summary View of the Rights of British Americaâ and retired from his law practice.
    At 32, was a Delegate to the Second Continental Congress.
    At 33, wrote the Declaration of Independence.
    At 33, took three years to revise Virginia’s legal code and wrote a Public Education bill and a statute for Religious Freedom.
    At 36, was elected the second Governor of Virginia succeeding Patrick Henry.
    At 40, served in Congress for two years.
    At 41, was the American minister to France and negotiated commercial treaties with European nations along with Ben Franklin and John Adams.
    At 46, served as the first Secretary of State under George Washington.
    At 53, served as Vice President and was elected president of the American Philosophical Society.
    At 55, drafted the Kentucky Resolutions and became the active
    head of Republican Party.
    At 57, was elected the third president of the United States.
    At 60, obtained the Louisiana Purchase doubling the nation’s size.
    At 61, was elected to a second term as President.
    At 65, retired to Monticello.
    At 80, helped President Monroe shape the Monroe Doctrine.
    At 81, almost single-handedly created the University of Virginia and served as its first president.
    At 83, died on the 50th anniversary of the Signing of the Declaration of Independence along with John Adams.

    Thomas Jefferson knew because he himself studied the previous failed attempts at government. He understood actual history, the nature of God, his laws and the nature of man. That happens to be way more than what most understand today. Jefferson really knew his stuff. A voice from the past to lead us in the future:

    John F. Kennedy held a dinner in the white House for a group of the brightest minds in the nation at that time. He made this statement:
    “This is perhaps the assembly of the most intelligence ever to gather at one time in the White House with the exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.”
    “When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government
    results from too much government.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.”
    –Thomas Jefferson

    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    “To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
    – Thomas Jefferson

    Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:
    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property – until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

    • 12 protectourcivilrightsfreedoms December 12, 2012 at 6:40 am

      BREAKING! Sup. Court of Alabama To Hear Eligibility Case? Arpaio Investigation


      The “eligibility stuff” goes directly to the destruction of our Constitutional Republic. The “stuff” is the TRUTH. So – we will report it. It also serves to bolster our biblical observations about this man and his regime and the prophetic times in which we live. FOR THE RECORD – we have never proclaimed BHO to BE the AC. Only that he displays many AC characteristics. Others have in the past as well. He certainly moves in the “spirit of antichrist.” Of that there can be no doubt.”

      “bob strauss | December 11, 2012 at 10:52 pm

      Here’s a question.
      If the Alabama Supreme Court says Obama is a usurper, does Kagan, and Sotomayor, have to recuse themselves, since they would be usurpers, too?”




      Published 11/09/2012 at 7:45 PM
      By Larry Klayman

      An Outstanding Must Read Article:




      December 11, 2012

      Read About Scalia’s Published (& Reported) Comments About Morality & Law In The USA & The USA Constitution:


  6. 13 typistjan December 8, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Hearing a mild rumble from some Repubs, to just pass obama’s wish list and only vote present, so the Dems will have to own all the tax hikes

    • 17 drkate December 9, 2012 at 10:57 am

      As plausible as can be. But I also think that the even the hostage idea was a cover for international gun running…and it would have been buried under the radar with a successful hostage attempt.

      And then Obama would have reversed the long trend of not trading hostages with terrorists…so theoretically any american could be traded for a jihadist.

  7. 18 Tiger 7 December 9, 2012 at 9:27 am

    Mr. Wallace is right on in his take on the Libyan fiasco—no other scenario fits the events as presented thus far nearly so well. The multiple visits to the WH by questional characters certainly had some relevance other than wishing bho well.
    Where is Bob Woodward when we need him ?? Surely sooner or later someone in the “news” media will get sensation-greedy and break the silence on what is really happening in this country. Can we last that long, however ??

  8. 21 foxyladi14 December 9, 2012 at 10:56 am

    Happy Hanukkah to all celebrating the festival of lights! 🙂

  9. 23 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    Isn’t it common knowledge that VaJay (Valerie Jarrett) is making all the foreign policy decisons and she sucks at it?

  10. 26 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    Chavez the collectivist is dying. He’s going to Cuba for his third operation. I hope he never returns to Venezuela. Oblahblah will cry when Chavez dies……LMAO.

  11. 27 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    Anyone ever heard of the NEW Magnitsky bill?

    Ron Paul vehemently opposes it.


    • 28 typistjan December 9, 2012 at 4:38 pm

      According to our Constitution, only Congress may write bills. However, now they are being written by think tanks, corporations, etc. and then pushed by lobbists.
      Give them enough money, bribes, or threats and the idiots will vote for anything and never give a thought to the consequences.

  12. 30 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    Here ya go Tiger 7
    Obama being Sworn in as President in Private and Secret without Press on Sunday January 20th. Why no Press allowed?

    This is something that is absolutely bizarre.

    It seems that Obama will be sworn in as President in private (secret) without the Press being allowed to view to video it. They will release photos that the White House Press photographer will take, after it is done.

    WHY? Seriously… how come the secrecy? Why won’t they allow it to be videoed?

    Excuse me BUT…. this is our country and Obama is suppose to work for us! Also he supposedly was going to be the most transparent President….

    I know that is a laugh, just like all those empty 2008 promises that were out the window…

    Besides all his Bull**** things he had said he would do for the people, yet out Bushed Bush and since has been the most self centered non-producing nor liberty President in our history. In fact he will be going down as the worst President ever and taking the U.S. down into the gutters with debt and lies…

    He is now going to be sworn in to what amounts as secrecy due to no outside press or disclosure of the swearing in?

    What type of swearing in will be done? The normal? If it was the normal why can’t there be press there?

    So if there is no allowing of public disclosure of the swearing in, that then begs the question and leaves to the imagination…. what type of swearing in will it actually be? A swearing in of a dictatorship? A swearing in using something other than the Bible? A swearing in without saying he will follow the “constitution” of the United States? A swearing in of an abnormal ceremony?

    Yes a lot of things are left to the imagination of how Obama will be sworn in as the President of our country.

    Considering it is our country and we the people are who make the country great, not the politicians. We have a right to see the swearing in of the person that was placed as President.

    Obama has no right to have this in private nor secret of what is said and how it is done.

  13. 32 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    “We the People of these United States of which this country was founded on the Constitution of the United States have a right to see the person who is going to be leading the United States as President for the next four years… Sworn in to do that duty for the Citizens of these United States! He is our employee and he is suppose to do the bidding of the people who live by the constitution of these United States! We demand to have a fully publicly viewed Swearing in of Obama to confirm he will stand by the Constitution of which this country was founded! “

    • 33 typistjan December 9, 2012 at 4:21 pm

      Sorry, not gonna happen. He is having two ceremonies, one private and one public, just like last time

    • 34 Bildo December 11, 2012 at 4:05 pm

      Obummer is president of The United States, not these united States. He can do whatever he wants in his corporation. The people need to separate themselves from it.

  14. 35 typistjan December 9, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    O/T Judge Roy Moore, the one that got fired over the 10-Commandments, now re-elected to court in Alabama will hear the next case on Obat. I pray nothing happens to Judge Moore.


  15. 36 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    Rice meetings leave lawmakers uneasy

  16. 37 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Rubio: Why we need answers on Benghazi

    Stepping back from the whole debate about how Rice came to make inaccurate public statements about Benghazi, there is another premise of the Republican attacks upon her that deserves considerable skepticism.
    We are supposed to believe that because Ansar al-Sharia — a group inspired by al Qaeda’s ideas, but having no links to the terrorist group that attacked the United States on 9/11 — was able to pull off a deadly attack in a Middle Eastern country ravaged by a recent war against a lightly defended U.S. mission, killing four, that al Qaeda is suddenly an important threat again to the United States.

    If you buy that, I have a bridge in Benghazi I’d like to sell you.

    • 39 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 6:54 pm

      She’s worth 40 million dollars since joining the obama admin? How did that happen?

      Was she paid from taxpayer stimulous money which no one knows where it went to?

      • 40 hammer and nail December 10, 2012 at 11:17 am

        Do you see this bullshit “mean face” all these corrupt politicos cultivate? It’s so defensive, the guilt is written all over it, with a “ya better watch out” mean look.
        Here’s Bawney Fwank’s Mean Face

        Here’s Dingy Harry’s Mean Face

        Here’s Hillary’s

        And Pelosi the loony toon just looks loony

        These faces are highly practiced, they know what they look like in front of the camera. They say “watch out, I’m guilty as hell but I’m trying to scare you off”
        Pelosi is just mental however

      • 41 heather December 10, 2012 at 11:18 pm

        Her and her husband bought massive shares of stock in their oil fields company…..you know the oil that was supposed to pay is for the iraq war!

  17. 42 Quantum Leap December 9, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    November 19, 2012 at 12:22 pm, by The Anti-Obama Nation
    We Have A Dream: 500,000+ Anti-Obama Activists Arrive In Washington D.C. During Obama’s Inauguration Ceremony … If you are unsatisfied with President Barack Obama’s reelection win and you further feel that he will ultimately destabilize America completely, then let us join together with bold Anti-Obama signs clearly stating our main grievances concerning unemployment, the economy, Benghazi, foreign policy matters, war…


    • 43 Ann December 9, 2012 at 9:57 pm

      That’s a Saturday…nobody home. Holiday weekend to boot. MLK Day on Monday, Inauguration day. What a coincident huh?

      • 44 drkate December 9, 2012 at 10:03 pm

        Hmmm…just like Lame Cherry has been saying, Obama wants to “replace” all these people, including MLK…

      • 49 sky December 10, 2012 at 8:23 am

        It doesnt mean any thing where they are,Its about the american people who should make it to DC,and stand for no more of their treason.Dont donate any money to anything dealing with the goverment,example presidential librariesThe biggest banks pay less to the fed,than smaller banks,get out of the biggest banks and corporations should too,This is the most important thing we the people can do,come down hard on both of these,example come down on price of products,less tax.They have already hit people working,when CEO’s make their bonuses & billions,they have turned greedy just like the elitist Banksters,and UNIONS,[mob]

  18. 50 Kiltie December 9, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    MASSIVE ANTI-OBAMA RALLY THE DAY BEFORE OBAMA’S INAUGURATION DAY…on January 19th..,they are going to burn Obummer in effigy. See link above from Quantum Leap.

  19. 51 typistjan December 9, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    OT here is an excellent site on Agenda 21 with SOLUTIONS
    Check out the whole site


  20. 52 Mary December 9, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    Gunrunner-Obama’s team includes … Hillary Clinton


    Way back in the days of Texas Darlin, you once excoriated me fo not swo
    oning over Hillary Clinton. It has rankled for a long tme.Accordingly, I’m so glad you’ve seen the light .

    • 53 drkate December 9, 2012 at 10:42 pm

      Mary, my apologies for bad behavior in the past. I truly have awakened re HRC 😳

      • 54 hammer and nail December 9, 2012 at 10:52 pm

        hillbuzz is still stuck on stupid in that regard

        • 55 drkate December 9, 2012 at 10:56 pm

          nicely said! 😀

        • 56 hammer and nail December 9, 2012 at 11:41 pm

          and I notice since the election they’ve had an article about an Orange Chicken recipe, and one about a lady looking into Chicago vote fraud, and Obama’s failure as a foreign policy leader…
          compare that to probably 3-5 articles per day before the election, placating everyone that Romney would win, even through election day telling readers not to believe Drudge showing Obama winning…
          I don’t know what to make of hillbuzz but that it was a great big energy drain

      • 58 Mary December 10, 2012 at 1:44 am

        You are a gracous woman, Kate

        I believe you know better than most that it is less a matter of o ama’s owners havig brought out the worst in everyone who goes near him than of “birds of a feather .Much to my shame, HRC did fool me—unil she and that sexually unglued husband of hers hoisted their pompoms for obama.
        In my book, “Party before country” = traitors.

      • 59 Mary December 10, 2012 at 1:48 am

        My response is four comments down from here.

      • 61 Mary December 10, 2012 at 1:53 am

        Please scroll own a few comments to read my thoughts on the Clintons..

          • 63 no-nonsense-nancy December 10, 2012 at 9:05 am

            Mary, I also, was fooled by Hillary. I even spent money I didn’t really have and went to Denver during the ’08 dem convention and protested on the streets against BO to get her nominated. Now I realize my stupidity.

            I think she really wanted to be president but now I see that she would have done most of the things that he has done. And I probably would still be asleep because I would still be reading all of those PUMA blogs which still support her.

            When friends or family accuse me of turning into a neo-conservative I say that I haven’t changed my polotics at all, It is the parties, both of them who have moved to the left making me a conservative. Me and JFK if he were alive today.

            • 64 usapatriots-shout December 10, 2012 at 7:47 pm

              One of the few presidential candidates I ever donated to was Hillary. When she caved in for Obama, I lost respect for her. Later when she turned against Israel in favor of Islam, I called her a slut.

              I’ve been under lots of stress lately. My mother fell and broke her hip. She had surgery Saturday. When I went to see her Sunday morning she didn’t realize she had a fall, didn’t know she had surgery, and was very confused. Today I found her in ICU. She had had a set back during the night, but was at least more alert. She remembered my vist from yesterday.

              These are such strange times for me. Lot’s of changes coming in my personal life. These are strange times for the entire planet. Not worried about the Mayan prophecy–it really isn’t prophesizng the end of the world–only the end of negativity. We may be entering a period of prosperity and abundance according to some psychics. Wouldn’t that be great.

              Any how, I think we need this site, Dr. Kate and each other more than ever. We don’t know what to expect for 2013, but we all fear it is going to be horrific.

              • 65 no-nonsense-nancy December 10, 2012 at 9:35 pm

                US, so sorry about your mother. I hope she will recover completely.

              • 66 heather December 11, 2012 at 10:02 pm

                at least your mom had the hip replacement before obamacare comes in and it was no longer covered for her age! prayers that she recovers quickly!

            • 67 heather December 10, 2012 at 11:23 pm

              I was never fooled by HRC–I knew from the start how evil she was—remember Vince Foster and White Water?

              • 68 heather December 10, 2012 at 11:24 pm

                That includes that sleeze ball husband of hers–aka bill clinton. And now we have the daughter, Chelsea to worry and wonder about.

            • 69 Quantum Leap December 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm

              Well Put

              “When friends or family accuse me of turning into a neo-conservative I say that I haven’t changed my polotics at all, It is the parties, both of them who have moved to the left making me a conservative. Me and JFK if he were alive today.”

    • 70 jayjay December 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm

      Why, Mary..I got cold shoulder/ignored (not that this group of 10 ever responded to my posts anyhow) every time I shared this:

      Glad to know I wasn’t alone in my little anti-Hillary valley.
      Confession; I did vote for Al Gore and John Kerry(apologies given here), and am still anti-war.
      Let God sort it out.

  21. 71 jayjay December 10, 2012 at 11:53 am

    {And I probably would still be asleep because I would still be reading all of those PUMA blogs which still support her.}
    Kinda makes one wonder about the backing of those blogs and the truth of their agenda, huh?

    • 72 Tenacity December 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm

      While the confessionals are flowing, being a past supporter of the bankster right is equivalent to supporting the bankster left, both feeding the Luciferian elite at the top of the banking/taxing vortex pyramid. Thanking God for helping me shed my Red, White & Blue fever. Coming to the knowledge that H.W. “Poppy” Bush (a/k/a George H. Scherff Jr. & Curious George) helped recruit and install both Slick Willy and Barry Soetoro via the C.I.A. will open one’s eyes. Speaking of birds of a feather, who has colder hearts or more criminal minds than Hitlary and Curious George? Okay, maybe Gyorgy Schwartz (a/k/a George Soros).

      Hitlary has likely stolen more wealth and arranged more treasonous actions in the world as Secretary of State than S/Ob has done while trespassing in our White House. IMHO, she has been the most powerful person in the world for the last 4 years, save the Black Pope.

  22. 74 hammer and nail December 10, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    New Obama tax
    on “Imputed Income

    so if you own a house you get taxed on what the rental income would be forit
    or if you own a car you get taxed on what the differential is between what a rental would cost you

    • 75 Bildo December 11, 2012 at 4:12 pm

      Well, it looks like a new item to discharge according to Public Policy. Taxes are easy. My “Legal Person” has no money to pay debts at law. They MUST discharge it.

  23. 76 Mary December 10, 2012 at 8:42 pm


    Before Soros bought rabble ro uuercommunity organizer to do his Nazi dirty work. Hilary Clinton was known as Soros’ Girl He was said to have his own revolving door to the Clinton WH.Tragic we didn’t know then who and what he was.

    Don’t take that Schwartz business as real.Soros is no Jew–trust me on this one. His is the face of some eastern European Iron Guard. Just as he had a life made up or stolenp for the creature he named obama, so he made up or stole an identity of a Hungarian Jewish Holocaust victim.

    Soros is a Nazi through and thtough, one of Hitler’s leftovers, those at the cote of the NWO. Jewish and leftist–Nazism’s biggest –ate objects, became his protective coloring. And that who is the President of this country.

    • 77 Tenacity December 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm

      Mary, do you know who financed Hitler’s regime? Do you know who has fomented zionism? Do you know who Christ was referring to in Revelations 2 & 3 as the “Synagogue of Satan”?

      Apparently you have not been following my comments for some time or you would realize that your statement above is based upon the World Zionist Congress’s propaganda rather than reality. If Soros was going to make up a fictional childhood, it would not be the one in his biography. I have no doubt that some of his biography may be made up, but his spying on his own people for the Nazis strikes me as factual. What makes you so sure there is a difference between a “Hitler leftover” and a “NWO Jewish leftist”? My research reveals that the two are not mutually exclusive.

  24. 79 Bildo December 11, 2012 at 4:41 pm

    I can’t remember the title exactly, but did you read Protocol of the Zionist Elders? If that’s not the exact title, it’s pretty close.
    I like the way people get, Zionist, Jew, Hebrew, ect all mixed up.
    @ USAPS–Hope your mom is recuperating well.

    • 80 Tenacity December 11, 2012 at 5:43 pm

      Bildo, make sure that whenever you see the “Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion” that you are seeing the original and not the amended version designed to deceive. This is what the minutes from the initial meetings of the World Zionist Congress came to be known as. Herzl (a Rothschild agent) chaired the first meetings starting in 1897 in Switzerland. These were originally transcribed in Russian. A Russian general’s daughter paid a fairly high price, something like 12,000 Rubles, to obtain a copy and had it translated into English. They were recorded into the British National Archives around 1907 I believe. You will find them in their original form in Andrew Hitchcock’s book, “Synagogue of Satan”.

      It is by design that the terms you mention have been confused. How many know that Yiddish is not a Semitic language and Hebrew is Semitic? Yiddish is Germanic in origin, known to be a language of the Ashkenazim and NOT of Ioudaios (Judah). Who fomented the term anti-Semite? Well if you guessed Ashkenazi, you’d be correct. That’s right, they are not Semitic, but Germanic and have deliberately and repeatedly confused the issue to trump up sympathy from the dumbed down in order to claim a national image synonymous with Biblical Israel so countries would stop throwing them out for their ruthless parasitic banking practices and to hide their pagan-idol worshiping heritage. So who owns our so-called Federal Reserve? I can tell you they ain’t Semitic, but if you attack them in any way, you are an anti-Semite. So who fomented all the race warfare? If you think it was the blacks, it’s time to do your research. Go look up who started the NAACP. Hint: One of the main founders of the NAACP won one of the 1959 Lenin Peace Prize awards. Just remember that everything They* ever told us was a lie.

      • 81 Bildo December 12, 2012 at 2:26 pm

        Thanks Tenacity for your whole post. I figured someone on here would know what I meant.
        Thanks for the history. I was educated in the Corp US system so I’m still getting some of my history mixed up. THEY sure have twisted things around.

  25. 82 Kathy December 12, 2012 at 12:21 am

    Is this not the most bizzar commercial ever???? It’s now running in the OKC area. This is only one of their wierd ads. They have others for OKC and Wichita, KS.


  26. 84 typistjan December 12, 2012 at 12:25 am

    OT but important
    Only took seven years for a judge to force the documents be released


  27. 85 Kathy December 12, 2012 at 12:28 am


    December 11, 2012 6:38 PM PrintText
    “Drug cartels’ bank,” HSBC, to see no arrests


    • 86 heather December 12, 2012 at 11:09 pm

      not even a slap on the wrist-and bernie madoff went to prison–i guess if you have enough money you can buy your way out! this is disgusting to say the least and for them to say they didnt know what they were doing is actually very stupid–who wants to do business with a bank that doesnt know what its doing!

  28. 87 typistjan December 12, 2012 at 2:46 am

    OT, corrupt gov. Chem trail USAF planes almost collide with UPS plane and be sure to watch the very last one, blood red trails. Comments pretty good too.

  29. 89 hammer and nail December 12, 2012 at 3:48 am

    Benghazi explaine

    You know, WHEN Syrian “rebels” USE Obama’s Benghazi/Libyan SAMs…this will be definitive proof of TREASON

    • 90 hammer and nail December 12, 2012 at 3:53 am

      Obama/Clinton planning FALSE FLAG
      Assad will NOT use chemical weapons, but THEY WILL and this will then “require” NATO/US involvement…but Syria is TNT and will EXPLODE into full scale war involving Iran, Turkey, Russia

      • 91 sky December 12, 2012 at 9:16 am

        This is the main thing to our troubles and the real thugs politicalvelcraft first artical. and commieblaster.com

    • 92 drkate December 12, 2012 at 11:05 am

      They already have…shooting down a military plane/helicopter a couple of weeks ago

  30. 96 Quantum Leap December 12, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    And the mass shooting in clackamas town center mall was a false flag too. The first thing the sherrif said on TV was ” the shooter is dead and we didn’t fire a shot” Yeah right-he committed suicide-sure– Tell me another one.
    The shooter was a 22 years old extreme liberal lefty. I guess the shopping will be sparse there now that this has happened.

  31. 102 Kathy December 12, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Hmmmm..nothing to see here….move along………. He was NUMB and on his way to HAWAII !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  32. 107 no-nonsense-nancy December 12, 2012 at 10:17 pm

    We in PA are celebrating tonight. Our governor announced that he will reject the Obamacare exchanges! We are about the 24th state to reject. Our various grass roots organizations made thousands of phone calls to the governor and key congress people in the past couple of weeks. It paid off.

    Harray for nullification!

    • 108 heather December 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm

      congrats NNN I guess–since our governor was one of the first to reject it….i guess it means the states will not comply and put the blame and cost on the feds–either way, we still have obamacare. but congress can still defund this death panel bill.

  33. 109 Mary December 12, 2012 at 10:46 pm


    Will you please contact me ASAP,?

    Thank you,

  34. 112 ngw December 13, 2012 at 7:55 am

    politicalvelcraft first artical

  35. 113 Tiger 7 December 13, 2012 at 8:00 am

    Finally someone addressed the subject of Benghazi survivors !! It was very apparent from the beginning that a game was being played with the whole story when no effort was made to hear accounts from people who were involved directly—Indeed, the survivors were ( are) being kept totally quiet. Wonder why ??? My guess is that their ultimate survival has been ‘splained to them in no uncertain terms.
    Where is John Wayne when we need him???

  36. 114 Bob's Box December 13, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Washed up singer actor Harry Belafonte to Obama: Lock up opponents…


    BELAFONTE YOU GLOBALIST YOU SHOULD BE LOCKED UP AND THEN HUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 115 hammer and nail December 13, 2012 at 12:16 pm

      Belafonte, a part-white entitlement bitch. Someone, sue him!

      • 116 heather December 13, 2012 at 10:25 pm

        Seems most of the blacks in hollywood are rich because we buy their so called music and watch their movies–stop spending on them–let them spend all their money and see if they become rich again the 2nd time around—-i would seriously doubt it.

  37. 117 hammer and nail December 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    I had a nightmare last night…

    ALL those SAMs from Libya that Obama gave to defeat Syria’s Assad to install the muslim brotherhood, are in the hands of al Qaeda, the same people who did Lockerbee. In fact Obama got the non-sick Lockekrbee terrorist released who probably trained new terrorists in HOW TO TAKE DOWN CIVILIAN AIRLINERS.

    Obama just weaponized the enemy to take down American jet liners.

  38. 118 roseandpeony December 13, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    Off topic, but something has confirmed what I suspected. The Ulsterman report…now promoting a coming *novel* – I have long felt that the “Insiders” were pure fictional characters created by Ulsterman. Especially so with the new supposed republican insider who seems sooo fake.
    Everyone of those insiders were very stereotyped, too stereotyped! The WSI – throws money around for influence buying and cares not for voting and NOW gets repentant! Oh boo hoo.
    The WHI based on a Carville personality and speech pattern and he too is repentant… but not enough to ditch democrats 😉 haha. The MI all gruff and tight lipped and terse, as that is what military is in Ulsterman’s imagination. The RI, wimpy, polite and unwilling to see reality and all hopes pinned on future predetermined elections. Oy vey.

    Yep, when those insider reports started being peddled for $$ it pretty much confirmed my suspicions. All fiction, all pretend! Those poor dupes on that blog still gobble that mockingbird stuff up. Ulsterman fancies himself an author and he tested his fictional writing skills on that blog. Ya gotta love it.

  39. 120 typistjan December 13, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    OT from Dick Morris
    Thankfully, the UN negotiations on Internet regulation collapsed yesterday in Dubai when the U.S. and Canada announced that they would refuse to support or sign any treaty that gave the UN’s International Telecommunications Union (ITU) the power to regulate the Internet.

    They specifically rejected the efforts of Vladimir Putin’s Russia to control the Internet through international treaty. Russia had sought to give each country the power to manage the Internet within their own countries and Putin’s ally Toure, the head of the ITU, sought to charge Google and other content sites for any videos used internationally. The goal in these charges was to make it prohibitively expensive for Russians to download video from foreign providers.

  40. 121 Drew December 14, 2012 at 2:08 am

    “The Obama Confession” — the YouTube Video series —

    Forensics profiler Dr. Andrew Hodges deconstructs Obama’s controversial birth & Muslim childhood —


    • 122 Tenacity December 14, 2012 at 12:13 pm

      I am reminded of the Brian Moench cartoon described below:

      Two grizzly bears chatted in the forest. Behind them, a familiar-looking man–thin, pale and bearded–was hooked on a tree limb by his shirt. As the man dangled helplessly, one bear turned to the other and said: “His name is Bradshaw. He says he understands I came from a single-parent den with inadequate role models. He senses that my dysfunctional behavior is shame based and co-dependent and he urges me to let my inner cub heal. . . . I say we eat him.”

      I did not get past the first video as it seems to be making the same mistake as D’Souza. That is relying upon the book written by Bill Ayers about the fictional O’bama and ignores the real facts.

      • 123 Drew December 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm

        The last four parts are much better — along with his analysis, they include some new information (newer than generally known).. Apparently the initial parts were an introduction for “beginners”……

  41. 124 Bob's Box December 14, 2012 at 11:55 am




    • 125 heather December 14, 2012 at 12:05 pm

      yes i am watching this on fox but my questions are—where is that entire class? and how does a 20 yr old shoot so many with a glock and a 9ml by himself–they dont spray ammo like a machine gun would?

      • 126 Bob's Box December 14, 2012 at 12:27 pm

        The Monster has been ID’d as 20-year-old Ryan Lanza…MAY HE BURN IN HELL!

      • 127 heather December 14, 2012 at 12:38 pm

        no way this could be this guy ryan lanza–go to his fb page and watch his silly vids–he’s goofy doesnt look like a killer to me. (of course i could be wrong but this is MO)

        • 128 Renee December 14, 2012 at 3:18 pm

          heather, I just read that the shooter is Ryan’s brother Adam (20) Too much coincidence on all these freak shooters. I agree, someone is using these people to kill and end gun rights.It is so obvious.People are not fooled easily anymore. Mind control DrKate ?

      • 136 Quantum Leap December 14, 2012 at 5:35 pm

        Yes, good question H. It’s totally fishy. Obama’s crockadile tears are the cream on top of this smelly pile of shock an awe all by design to {{{{BAN}}}} assault weapons, which can lead to {{{{{BANNING}}}}}} other guns, drop by drop.

  42. 137 heather December 14, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    barry just gave a speech and managed to squeeze a tear from his left eye and of course used his middle finger to wipe it away. he said these shootings are too many in this country and imho he plans on taking our 2nd amendment and guns away which is his dream.

    no mention of the entire class thats missing….but more info coming out about finding several automatic weapons at the school—hmmm very odd, no mention of that before. also a woman appearing to be his mother in ct found dead and a man in hoboken appearing to be his father found dead. very strange indeed.

  43. 142 Tiger 7 December 14, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Very strange indeed—what are the statistics, how many “nut case” shootings have taken place under bho’s reign ?? I am not much of a believer in coincidence. There is usually a reason for all the strange events that get brushed off as coincidence. All one has to do to find candidates for controled acts is rummage through Facebook.
    The frontal attack on the Second Ammendment has not worked.

    • 143 hammer and nail December 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm

      Let’s see
      Denver Theater (Batman)
      Clackamas Mall
      Gabby Giffords
      Sikh Temple
      Christian College
      Vietnamese immigrant/New York

      So that was 51 dead in 4 years prior to usurpation, 4 shootings INCLUDING Virginia Tech (32)
      and 84 since usurpation 5 major shootings

  44. 144 heather December 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Now they said that the rifle they found was in his car! Oh what a tangled web we weave–anyone could have planted that rifle in his car!

    We the people just have convince this population that this govt did this and continues to hold false flag ops no matter how hurtful they are–the people need to believe this govt is behind this.

  45. 145 heather December 14, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    OT-she comes right out with barry changing america–pulls no punches.


  46. 146 Drew December 14, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    Check out this blog, regarding the “oddities” in: —

    “Sandy Hook Shooting – Look At the Numbers Folks: Something Isn’t Right” — by Scott Creighton:


    “… there have only been around 61 mass shooting events in the United States over the past 30 years. That’s an average of 2 per year.

    … there [have] been 7 this year already including this atrocity at the Sandy Hook elementary school.

    Five have occurred since July 20th, the Aurora Massacre. Five. …

    … take a look at the locations of all of these 5 latest attacks; theater, church, work place, mall and school. It’s almost as if someone wants to ensure that every aspect of the so-called “normal” lives of American citizens are touched in some way by these events. ”

  47. 150 typistjan December 14, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    Heard tonight in a chat room that the shooter’s father was a V.P. at GE Capitol????

    An interesting article on mind control


  48. 151 heather December 14, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    It used to be that America was the last place on this planet to flee to for freedom…

  49. 153 typistjan December 15, 2012 at 12:17 am

    OT but very good article
    How Wall Street Hollowed Out Industrial America
    Forget the fiscal cliff. America’s real problem is a Wall Street that has eaten up industrial America and threatens to consume the rest of us.
    —By Steve Fraser
    | Mon Dec. 3, 2012 11:03 AM PST


  50. 155 Bildo December 15, 2012 at 11:12 am

    shooter autistic(vaccinations?) and on prescription meds. As seems to be the usual.

    • 156 hammer and nail December 15, 2012 at 1:59 pm

      It’s not “autism” in fact aspberger’s are quiet shy and problem solvers.

      There’s something up with that…remember 2 weeks ago the DSM removed aspbergers, merged it with autism.
      It’s not autism behind violence, EVER!

      • 157 heather December 15, 2012 at 2:06 pm

        They cannot blame this on autism or aspbergers–that will label everyone in the world as a mass murderer. Blame these violent video games that kids sit and play day in day out and never go outside to play. They need to be banned–guns don’t kill–people kill and barry will take our 2nd amendment away for sure–and yes they are all false flags and I just caught a blurb on the fox crawl about some man going into st vincents hospital (not sure where that is)with a gun and shot someone and the cops shot him–another plant for sure!

        And now they are all blaming the NRA for this and calling them the KKK. People get a grip-open your eyes and know that this is all being done by barry.

        • 158 Ann December 15, 2012 at 11:27 pm

          It was here in Alabama Heather. We’ve had 4 shooting incidents in the State since last night. Wife & kids shot yesterday afternoon at an apartment, 2 in a hospital this morning, a Mexican today that shot a police after shooting his wife and running from the police and another one that I can’t recall right now. I don’t know what’s going on but it’s getting really scary.

  51. 159 heather December 15, 2012 at 11:39 am




  52. 160 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 1:20 pm

    Well the Clackamas mall opened yesterday and the once bustling huge mall is very quiet. Shoppers are gone.
    This is an outright attack on capitialism.
    Imagine how many people have no idea that this and the Conn shooting are false flags.

  53. 161 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Did the Gov give these shooters drugs? Strange how one was 22 years old and the other was 20 years old. Very strange.

  54. 162 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    I doubt they kill themselves. some sniper must be there to pick them off.

    • 168 typistjan December 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm

      Why hasn’t that “minister” been arrested and the book thrown at him? Inciting a riot, threatening bodily harm against the governor?
      If a Tea Party person said those things they would be dead. I guess if you are Union you are immune to prosecution.

    • 172 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 2:44 pm

      what most Americans have not yet realized is that this shooting is another ‘false flag’ event designed by the CIA and the SADISTIC criminals within the United States government to institute TOTAL CONTROL over the masses. Yes, this shooting is another shocking example of exactly how EVIL these people are; the mere fact that they would MASSACRE school children to achieve their goals of the disarmament of the American public is absolutely attrocious. These people MUST be stopped at all costs! It is not a coincidence that this has occurred the same day that a European Court has handed down a ruling against the CIA, labeling them as torturers and condemning extraordinary rendtion. Freedom in America and therefore the entire world will not survive as long as these EVIL henchmen are permitted to continue to implement their agenda. From Wikipedia:
      Project MKUltra was the code name for a covert research operation experimenting in the behavioral engineering of humans through the CIA’s Scientific Intelligence Division. The program began in the early 1950s, was officially sanctioned in 1953, was reduced in scope in 1964, further curtailed in 1967 and officially halted in 1973.[1] The program engaged in many illegal activities[2][3][4]; in particular it used unwitting U.S. and Canadian citizens as its test subjects, which led to controversy regarding its legitimacy.[5][6][7][8] MKUltra involved the use of many methodologies to manipulate people’s individual mental states and alter brain functions, including the surreptitious administration of drugs (especially LSD) and other chemicals, hypnosis,sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as various forms of torture.[9]
      The scope of Project MKUltra was broad, with research undertaken at 80 institutions, including 44 colleges and universities, as well as hospitals, prisons and pharmaceutical companies.[10] The CIA operated through these institutions using front organizations, although sometimes top officials at these institutions were aware of the CIA’s involvement.[11] MKUltra was allocated 6 percent of total CIA funds.[12]

      From before it’s news

  55. 174 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Hillary faints when she hears about the kids being shot cause she knows the entire scoop of what’s really behind all this: The removal of the 2nd amendment.

  56. 179 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    “Perhaps most shocking in this report are FSB analysts stating that this latest massacre “could very well have been” a “retaliation” after the failed mass shooting in Portland, Oregon earlier in the week, and as we reported on in our report titled “US Military Sniper Stops Portland Mall Massacre”. -Sorcha Faal

    My sentiments exactly.

    “After DARPA I was recruited by Kuma Games Company, a computer games company which received money from CIA to design and make special films and computer games to change the public opinion’s mindset in the Middle East and distribute them among Middle East residents free of charge. The goal of Kuma Games was to convince the people of the world and Iraq that what the U.S. does in Iraq and other countries is good and acceptable.”

    Hekmati further added: “The head of Kuma called me and said, ‘I have received your resume from DARPA, and we have a program in which you can help us.’ ” Kuma, Hekmati explained, “was also a cover for the CIA. and only the chief of company knows that you’re working with the agency.”

  57. 180 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    A grim Federal Security Services (FSB) security memorandum circulating in the Kremlin today is reporting that the man, Adam Lanza believed responsible for the horrific massacre of 20 children and 6 adults yesterday was the son of one of the Central Intelligence Agencies (CIA) top psychological analysts who was assigned to a Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) project which developed the sub-hunting simulator video game Dangerous Waters.

    According to FSB analysts in this memorandum, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook primary education school in the Connecticut County of Fairfield, known as the “hedge fund ghetto” due to its being one of the wealthiest counties in the United States, where he killed school officials and an entire class of children Russian intelligence experts believe were a part of a DARPA “experiment” being oversaw by his mother Nancy Champion Lanza.”


  58. 181 Quantum Leap December 15, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    A new Federal Security Services (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that a massacre was averted this past week at a shopping mall located in the Portland, Oregon suburb of Happy Valley after a US military sniper team “neutralized” a heavily armed masked gunman prior to his being able to launch what was intended to be one of the United States worst mass shootings in recent years.

    According to this report, this past Tuesday (11 December), the gunman intending to perpetrate this massacre, since indentified as Jacob Tyler Roberts, entered the Clackamas Town Center shopping mall, where an estimated 10,000 holiday shoppers were located, announced “I am the shooter,” then opened fire upon his shocked victims killing Cindy Ann Yuille and Steve M. Forsyth, and critically wounding a teenage girl named Kristina Shevchenko.

    Within minutes of this attack occurring, this report says, one of the at least four sniper teams belonging to the US Army’s 1st Special Forces Group, headquartered at the Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington State, who had been pre-positioned for this attack, located the gunman and killed him with a single shot to the head thus ending, what in all likelihood Russian analysts say, could have been the worst American mass shooting in decades.

    Interesting to note, this report continues, are that the US military sniper teams who ended this seemingly senseless rampage were able to have been pre-positioned due to their receiving a warning of this attack the day before via the English-language image board website named 4chan, where on 10 December, the day prior to this attempted massacre, a message was posted saying “Tomorrow. Watch the news, Clackamas Town Center Mall.” [See screen shot image below]

    4chan is one of the Internet’s most trafficked image boards and, FSB analysts say in this report, the most likely poster of this massacre warning is a US dissident group named Potentially Alarming Research: Anonymous Intelligence Agency (Par:AnoIA) whose website is designed to collect leaks, allow project participants to work on them, and release them in a way that draws the attention of the public.

    Not just the public follows Par:AnoIA, this report continues, all US military and intelligence agencies, likewise, follow their leaks and warnings, but with much more sophisticated software algorithms enabling them to ascertain what are “true” threats from “false” ones.

    The greatest concern to the US military about these gun-related massacres, FSB analysts in this report say, and as we had previously reported on in our 28 July report Mysterious Radio “Blast” Before Colorado Massacre Puzzles Scientists, are their all involving what can only be described as “mind controlled entities” acting without reason, but with “sudden and deadly purpose.”

    Like nearly all of the mass killers who came before him, Jacob Tyler Roberts was described as a typically happy man who liked to joke around, but had changed abruptly in the last week and “seemed numb” immediately prior to the attack.

    Unbeknownst to the American people about these mass shootings, and as the Sorcha Faal has fully documented in her seminal work titled “Iron Mountain Apocalypse: The True Story Of 2013”, the US policy of instituting a continued atmosphere of terror, panic and fear have long been a part of their plan to institute changes to their society which has seen them become the most spied upon people in all of world history.

    To when the next massacre will occur, this report grimly ends, is not a matter of “if,” but rather “when,” as the “master plan” to disarm the American people is now accelerating as these unsuspecting people continue sleepwalking towards the abyss.

    December 14, 2012 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com

  59. 188 A Crazy Old Coot December 15, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Obama’s Lawyers Officially Admit Birth Certificate is Fake


    Lawyers for the Obama Administration announced that Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate was a forgery. Under penalty of perjury, the lawyers said they were forced to say that the birth certificate was valid.

    A lawyer representing the Obama administration say the birth certificate was knowingly purveyed to fool the American public into believing he was legitimately able to be President.

    However, they purport that Obama knows he is not a natural born citizen.


    Read the rest at the above link.

  60. 192 heather December 15, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    And so tomorrow barry will go to CT to “pay his respects” all the while he is PRO ABORTION all the way to the 9th month….he should be run out of that town! Disgusting pos war monger, phoney liar.

    • 194 Mary December 15, 2012 at 11:01 pm

      I was thinking along the same lines. Too bad the principal didn’t have a firearm in her hands when she confronted the murderer.

  61. 195 heather December 15, 2012 at 11:07 pm


    Could barry have chosen John Kerry as SOS just in case he isn’t sworn in next month based on all the new evidence coming out? After all, if that’s the case then Biden is also out and next in line would be SOS?–making Kerry potus until we have a new emergency election.

    • 196 SirLurksAlot December 16, 2012 at 12:03 am

      After pres, vp, comes the spkr of the house, Boehner, then the pres pro tem of the senate. fourth in line is the sec of state.

      IMHO susan rice was never considered for sos. just a false flag.

  62. 198 Mary December 15, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    It’s clear that obama’s owners have hudreds of these crazies, each stabled in a ifferent part of the country to make the murders seem random. The NWO isodesperate to disarm us, just as Nazis disarmed Germans.

    Since when is it new for Nazis to murder babiesT

    The problem about the dismantling of our country is that Americans don’t recognize Evil

    • 199 hammer and nail December 16, 2012 at 8:34 am

      They are waking up.. .they know these mass shootings are out of whack abnormal, even young people are saying they are AGENDA-DRIVEN,anti-2nd amendment.

      This putsch has a reallly bad problem for itself when the common man wakes up and they are.

  63. 200 Ann December 16, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Holy crap….3 shooters??? WTH??

    • 201 heather December 16, 2012 at 11:05 pm

      They said there were 2 shooters one in the woods–so they again are trying to get their lies straight — and this little boy and the rest of these kids will go to shrinks to get brain washed so they can never tell the truth about what they saw and heard. This is beyond evil from this govt.— but of course no one I know believes that barry and co had anything to do with this–and they are now on their own–I need to worry about me and my family–I am done trying to educate those with their heads still in the sand.

  64. 203 Drew December 16, 2012 at 12:51 am

    This morning media reports said the shooter had carried four pistols (rather than two), and spent rifle shells were also found inside the school.

    Plus, there was a .223 semi-automatic rife that had been left outside in the trunk of the car.

    Now, AP and the Washington Post are saying that a .223 rifle (not pistols) did *all* of the killing.

    I wonder if they tested that guy they found out back, dressed in camouflage — to look for gunpowder residue?

    Or, did they just let him go?

  65. 204 no-nonsense-nancy December 16, 2012 at 7:44 am

    There had to be more than one killer. From the time released that the dispatcher was called and when they say they found his body already dead was about three or four minutes. Could anyone, even with automatic weapons, kill 26 people in four minutes? I’m certainly no expert, but this just sounds fishy. And the medical examiner is saying all were shot with rifles and had multiple wounds. I hope they report on how many bullott wounds there were altogether. To me that is just a lot of shooting in so short a time for one person. Just saying. I’m beginning to call the US the “cover-up country”.

    • 205 Ann December 16, 2012 at 8:08 am

      Exactly! They didn’t count on the public having access to the police audio conversations obviously. Sloppy work boys! Trust me, we won’t ever hear about the bullet wounds…that would make it too obvious (to people with common sense).

      • 206 hammer and nail December 16, 2012 at 8:31 am

        The police radio stated there were multiple shooters.

        And then the.re was another “mass shooting” 50 bullets fired in a parking lot.

        This is all orchestrated!

        Obama does not believe we have a right to SELF DEFENSE. It makes it easier to make his STALIN MOVE, his seizure of dictatorship, if Americans are unarmed, the lawful ones especially! Remember he voted against justifiable self-defense for even home invasion!

        If Sandy Hook’s principal, instead of physically charging the shooter, had had a small pistol…the truth is

        the left killed t hose kids with their no-gun-zones; for the only way to stop a man with a gun is with a gun, they invited this

        the left killed those kids by glorifying the shooters and not the victims

        the left killed those kids because like Gabby Gibbs, Denver Batman theatre, Clackamas…they ALL sound like Fast and Furious false flags—if Obama has no problem killing thousands of Mexicans and hundreds of Americans with F&F or Project Gunwalker, he’d have no problem taking lethal anti-2nd amendment acts.

        The left has no problem with 1 million abortions per year, off which they earn $50 per baby suckage….or that Obamacare will kill an extra 70,000 per year due to known epidemiologic morbidity and morality quantifiable scientiic data (Annals of Internal Medicine) that staff and service cut-backs will result in deaths…yet they are diarrhea-ing themselves over these mass shootings in order to exploit them for anti-2nd amendment agendas.

        This is all orchestrated! Obama has shipped 10,000 SAMs to al Qaeda in Syria to install muslim brotherhood there, he is trying to start WWIII, he needs a distraction. And those SAMs will be used to shoot down American airliners, need some misdirection yet again. TSA will be obsolete since now Obama’s al Qaeda can just stand on the ground and shoot down airplanes with the weapons HE gave to them. Heat seeking surface to air missiles.

        What will his Stalin Moment be? The FBI said Ayers his mentor said 45 million Americans need to be exterminated. How will he try to pull off his dictatorship grab?

    • 208 heather December 16, 2012 at 10:09 pm

      NNN-they said over and over again that rifle was found in his mothers car–so how could he use it – they said he used 2 hand guns and my post above asked the question–how does a 20 yr old with no experience shoot and kill that many within minutes with hand guns–its impossible–and yes like QL said above there must have been a sniper–he would never have killed himself and not lived long enough to see his GLORY done! and he had a shot to the head? all orchastrated to well….and where is that kindergarten class that everyone said was just missing? who was the 2nd person in chamies they saw in the woods? wth–how about the right answers.

      i dont think this was done by 1 person–and yes this is barrys false flag and those little babies were his test to america to disarm all of us…and barry goes again to sandy hook to “console” them all the while he approves and pushes for full abortions and full term abortions and death to a newborn left to die alone…omg-what has become of the country and our so called GOD fearing senate and congress–this is just the beginning of–and now friday there was a shooting at malibu ca mall, a hospital in alabama, a plot for bartlesville ok by an 18 yr old—good for the high school kids that turned him into the cops…..wth–all created and done by barry soetoro.

      there is no doubt in my mind that there had to have been a 2nd shooter at sandy hook. this is very very fishy just like gabbie giffords.

  66. 211 typistjan December 16, 2012 at 1:50 pm

    From e-mail of Constitution for the US
    “Lock up the silverware: The Liberals will be proposing cutlery control soon. I can see it now: A UN conference to restrict western eating utensils and pushing the use of chopsticks.”
    Leo Fuller
    On the SAME tragic, senseless day in Connecticut–in Beijing, China, 22 school children were stabbed by a “mentally deranged” man, armed with a knife. An officer said the attack, in the village of Chengping in Henan province, happened shortly before 8am on Friday, as students were arriving for classes.
    In March 2010, eight children were murdered in Nanping, Fujian province, by 41-year-old knifeman Zheng Minsheng. The attacker was executed a month later.
    Also in March 2010, 33-year-old Chen Kangbing injured 16 students and a teacher at Hongfu Primary School in Leizhou, Guangdong.
    In April 29 2010, 28 school children – mostly four-year-olds – were stabbed alongside two teachers and a security guard in Taixing, Jiangsu.
    On April 30, Wang Yonglai committed suicide after using a hammer to attack preschool children in Weifang, Shandong.
    Further attacks in the months and years following have left 11 children and four adults dead, and several more injured.
    Knife control? Guns are banned in China or else the teachers could have taken the killer down before he stabbed more kids. Evil exists in this world. This is the reality. When it rears its ugly head do you want to be defenseless?
    “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from ANY who might attempt to abuse them, which would INCLUDE their own government.” — George Washington
    Visit Constitution for the United States at:

  67. 212 typistjan December 16, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Another interesting link connecting the fathers of two shooters

  68. 213 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Oblah blah says we have to do some “meaningful action” ……What the hell does THAT mean? What does meaningful action mean? His BS’ing is over the top and now he’s going to CONN for a photo op when it’s the mayors job. A preshnident is not supposed to be doing photo’s for a state event unless he’s campaigning. Where was he when all the peeps got shot in the Oregon mall? Not tragic enough I guess. It was a failed attempt to wipe out thousands at the mall so the CIA turned to killing kids at a school via the mind controlled shooter who’s mother was working undercover for the CIA.

  69. 214 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    And the stores were selling out of their assault rifles in Oregon as the customers were lined up around the blocks. BITE THAT Oblahblah. People are not going to succumb to oblahblah’s CIA set-up to take away our right to bear arms and protect ourselves. If the people has more conceal carry there wouldn’t be random shooters.

  70. 215 Jane December 16, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    QL, you know that EVERYTHING is about him politicing….LOL.
    He LOVES to see himself in that mirror called the media.

    • 216 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 2:52 pm

      YES JANE AND WHEN HE SAID” THIS IS not politcal” I knew it was for political gain……it’s all for political gain on his part because he’s always trying to score points due to most people can’t stand that putrid horse head/teeth and the ugliness of him……, the truth lies in the opposite of whatever he says.
      When will he stop campaigning?

      • 217 hammer and nail December 16, 2012 at 3:25 pm

        Everything they say they’re NOT doing, they’re doing…Alinksy tactic, project on to your opponent your own acts. Everyone sees this.

  71. 218 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 2:47 pm

    This whole CIA oblah blah set-up to stirp us of our 2nd amendment is backfiring……. in your faces …..FAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTT

  72. 219 Tiger 7 December 16, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    The big difference between the US and most other countries is the 2nd Ammendment All of the other differences are virtually gone by the board—the media, the colleges, the judicial system–all taken away over the last 60-70 years. However, the 2nd Ammendment still stands and will very likely save us. The many recent attacks upon it have served to backfire–allbeit at the terrible loss of innocent lives.
    It appears that the bankster element is getting desparate and will resort to very evil activities to thwart their undoing.

  73. 220 typistjan December 16, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    OT, the Tea Party groups have been inflitrated by many obats, here is the latest


    • 221 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 7:12 pm

      Holy cats. Tea party is against Islam. It appears that they are a group calling themselves the Tea Party….. Soros fears the Tea party and will stop at nothing.

  74. 224 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Another Strange Shooting or a Psychological Operation? One thing is for certain: TSA airport-like security at movie theaters, malls, and shopping centers, complete with metal detectors, body scanners armed guards etc. Remember Benjamin Franklins’ words, “Never give up essential liberty for a little security”.

    FAIR USE NOTICE: This video may contain copyrighted material. Such material is made available for educational purposes only. This constitutes a ‘fair use’ of any such copyrighted material as provided for in Title 17 U.S.C. section 106A-117 of the U.S. Copyright Law

    He said it was an ar-15 before they even cought the shooter. Now how did he know that?

  75. 226 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    The good part starts around 5:15

    • 227 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 8:06 pm

      .U.S. to Surrender Military Control to UN While Disarming Americans! .

      Alex talks with Bernadine Smith, the founder of the Second Amendment Committee, a nationwide organization working to make sure the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights is upheld as the supreme protective law for firearms of law-abiding people. Smith also authored legislation to restore the militia system to its proper role as designed by the framers of the Constitution.

  76. 229 typistjan December 16, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    OT-sorry, but can’t resist
    This is good

    Chemtrails, Aerosol Geoengineering and Bioengineering: A Massive Biological Experiment of Unknown Purpose
    By Prof. James F. Tracy
    Global Research, December 14, 2012

  77. 230 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    A few days ago, Dictator-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama laid out his demands to Congress for not yet pushing the current USSA (aka “Amerika”) and its people over the ostensible fiscal cliff.

    These demands include: a doubling of his campaign “promise” to $1.6 Trillions in new taxes levied on the American people (which will decimate what’s left of the middle-class…his intent all along), an immediate funding (to Obama) of $50Billions (to be used for political purposes as he sees fit…in other words a “gift” to him personally for any political purposes he deems necessary) and personal unlimited sole authority to raise the USSA’s debt ceiling as he desires…whenever he wants. Translation: Obama now demands full dictatorial powers over the US economy and the elimination of Congressional authority—or even input—in all economic matters. In exchange, Obama said he “may” consider spending less of the taxpayers’ (aka “serfs”) money—but, he did not say it was a guarantee.

    We discovered a day or so ago that these most recent ObamaDemands are not negotiable. Either Congress gives him full dictatorial control in this matter or he will 1. Bring the country to an immediate close or 2. Write another illegal non-binding Executive Order giving himself supremacy in this matter. As Congress has not yet challenged Obama on any of his EOs we can assume they will, also, remain silent on this one…should it be written.

    Another “discovery” is that only Boehner (Obama’s new BFF) and Obama are “negotiating” behind closed doors. The American people—long ago—were shut out of their own government. Now Congress is being shut out, also. Sadly, most people will not accept that which is right in front of them…the truth that we have been living under a dictatorship for at least the last four years. The media won’t report it as, for some inexplicable reason, they rather like barbaric totalitarian governments. Besides, with the Benghazi assassinations being “okayed” by Obama, we already know the media support, if not endorse, murder from this “president” and they will protect and serve him no matter what additional atrocities he commits. And said new atrocities are coming, folks. The media stopped reporting the news years ago and now only deliver what the White House tells them to “report.” As a matter of record, Obama most recently met with Marxist channel MSNBC reporters privately 4 December, 2012.

    “And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven”—Matthew 16:19


  78. 231 Quantum Leap December 16, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    The maligning malcontent activists in the White House try harder than ever to torment the people who never voted them in.

    In this, the ‘Year of the Big Gloat’ it’s a $4-million Hawaiian taxpayer-paid, 20-day vacation and 54 ‘Christmas’ trees

  79. 233 Ann December 16, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    Notice how all these physco killers ALWAYS “shoot themselves”? I mean is this talking point drilled into these cops heads or what???

  80. 234 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 2:49 am

    Media hide that a man with a concealed carry permit stopped the Clackamas shooter.

    • 235 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 9:20 pm

      Not true. He aimed but didn’t fire. The shooter ran off…….. the guy never shot the shooter….. it too is fishy

  81. 236 Carol Barry December 17, 2012 at 9:01 am

    WOW.. Watch ur back !! God Himself protect you all !

  82. 237 heather December 17, 2012 at 10:22 am

    foxnews is pre-warning everyone that anyone posting threats of any kind on all social media sites that they will be jailed and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the DC law…gimme a break, of course this is now totally out of control and the longer sandy hook is being reported on the more EXTREME these so called lying lawmakers are going to find ways to take our complete rights away from us.

    it never fails that they create distractions for their actions that are completely unconstitutional all the while already having made their slavery plans against us.

  83. 238 Tiger 7 December 17, 2012 at 10:31 am

    There are three elements in such terrible events as Sandy Hook—the unstable or altered mental state of a person; the influence of outside stimuli such as the “entertainment” industry, the media, and violent video games; and the availability of means of causing harm (incendiaries, explosives, firearms, etc ). The most politically correct method of addressing the problem is to enact more restrictions on the ownership of weapons–that is the easiest and has other signifficant political aspects. That , however, makes the least sense in that legal words abiding in libraries all over the country don’t mean anything at all to a person of distorted reasoning wanting to do harm. The result is the exact opposite of the logical approach
    A much more pro-active approach is to require the presence of some form of armed security–not prohibit such security. It would not stop all violent acts, but it would address the issue—contrary to what is presently the case.
    Unfortunately, the other contributing elements have been only addressed in very limited ways. No real hard actions have been taken. The 1st Ammendment is always the argument there. The first and second ammendments were in that order for a reason, but it was expected that a degree of common sense would be exercised in their application.

  84. 239 Ann December 17, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Check this out….article quotes the Principal of the school. I thought she was shot and killed?

    Look for Shooting at Sandy Hook School in the headlines.


  85. 241 typistjan December 17, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    I don’t know the author of this yet, but it is beautiful.

    Twas’ 11 days before Christmas, around 9:38 when 20 beautiful children stormed through heaven’s gate. Their smiles were contagious, their laughter filled the air. They could hardly believe all the beauty they saw there. They were filled with such joy; they didn’t know what to say. They remembered nothing of what had happened earlier that day. “Where are we?” asked a little girl, as quiet as a mouse. “This is heaven” declared a small boy. “We’re spending Christmas at God’s house”. When what to their wondering eyes did appear, but Jesus, their savior, the children gathered near. He looked at them and smiled, and they smiled just the same. Then He opened His arms and He called them by name. And in that moment was joy, that only heaven can bring those children all flew into the arms of their King and as they lingered in the warmth of His embrace, one small girl turned and looked at Jesus’ face. And as if He could read all the questions she had He gently whispered to her, “I’ll take care of mom and dad. “then He looked down on earth, the world far below He saw all of the hurt, the sorrow, and woe, then He closed His eyes and He outstretched His hand, “Let My power and presence re-enter this land! “May this country be delivered from the hands of fools” “I’m taking back my nation. I’m taking back my schools! “Then He and the children stood up without a sound. “Come now my children let me show you around. “Excitement filled the space, some skipped and some ran. All displaying enthusiasm that only a small child can. And I heard Him proclaim as He walked out of sight, “in the midst of this darkness,” I AM STILL THE LIGHT.”

  86. 245 typistjan December 17, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    Hawaii Democratic Sen. Daniel Inouye has died at age 88, his office confirmed Monday night.
    Inouye had served in the Senate since 1962 and represented Hawaii since 1954. He served as the Senate pro tempore — the designation for the chamber’s longest serving Senator — and the person third in line to the presidency. He also chaired the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee at the time of his death.

    • 247 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 6:23 pm

      Well they’ve lost their credibility.

    • 248 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 6:25 pm

      We can see the helicopter video of them arresting another shooter, and the kid testifies that yet another shooter was arrested by the fire station, so that’s either three shooters, or two with the 20 year old as the sacrificial scapegoat.

      • 249 Drew December 17, 2012 at 7:11 pm

        By now, the police should have told the media — and the public — that two suspects were detained near the scene of the shootings, and if the two were later released.

        What’s the big secret?

        How could those two men possibly qualify for “witness protection” and secrecy?

        More importantly, the police should be testing DNA from the “mask” found on the alleged shooter’s face (and inside his jacket collar), to see if that DNA matches the DNA from either of the two suspects who were detained near the school.. This is because the “real shooter” could have been wearing that mask, and later placed it on the dead body of Adam Lanza, before slipping out the back door of the school…

  87. 252 no-nonsense-nancy December 17, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    I don’t really get how this kid went on this killing rampage. I read an article on Yahoo this morning (which I can’t find now) in which several people described him. One was a teacher or coach at the high school. Everyone who knew him said that he was so introverted. Someone who looks down at the floor while in the co mpany of others, even his mother’s friends and who would stand along the wall in school hugging his brief case to him if someone approached him doesn’t seem like someone who would do such an outwardly aggressive thing. Maybe some of you can shead a light on this. It just seems so sureal that he was the one doing the killing.

    • 253 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 6:26 pm

      Doesn’t everyone smell another fast and furious or project gunwalker? They’re so avid about ending the 2nd they will lie and kill 24/7.

      The bottom line is the government wants to outgun the people by a wide margin.

      Leaving no recourse for the People with an abusive government.

      • 254 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 8:35 pm

        They keep pulling this false flag crap and SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL BE CAUGHT. Obama will be caught in his own lies and games….. It’s just a matter of time. Wait and see. Too much crap is piling up and it’s stinkin bad. People are going to have a breaking point and spill the beans on the gun runner in chief.

      • 255 heather December 17, 2012 at 9:55 pm

        Of course this was a govt op–this kid was too introverted to do this-too many inconsistances, too many lies and then so called correction. This was a CIA op and just to distract from the fiscal so called fake cliff and Benghazi and the upcoming court hearings against barry. Anything to distract–nothing is sacred to them–nothing.

        Remember last spring someone here posted “school drills in OK” where the kids were lead out of school and into waiting buses and hauled off to parts unknown without the knowledge of their parents? Remember this?—well we carry guns in this state and have an open carry law–and these murderers won’t ever get a chance to murder here again after OKC bombing–which was another false flag op. Which of course my vet and I were discussing the same today and he is so aware of all of this–and barry is hated here and lost–and I pray that Mary Fallin is on top of his agendas of murders and stands firmly against him and his team of murdering cia.

        • 256 heather December 17, 2012 at 10:32 pm

          Adam Lanza’s father was a big wig with GE and scheduled to be heard by congress about the libor–same as the shooter fathers in Aurora–all GE—in bed with barry and so what his father and brother Ryan were questioned and released, so why arent we hearing anything from them or about them? Notta word. Only his mother.

    • 257 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 6:29 pm

      And think of the evil cynicism entailed in this:
      Autism has skyrocketed to about 1:108 kids, that’s a hell of a lot of kids, and the only way something like that happens is through environmental or medical exposure, and the source of that is “you know who”. So then they scapegoat a likely completely innocent introverted aspberger’s boy, since there were 2 other shooters by all video/witness accounts.

      I wonder if the police threatened that boy or his family who testified there was an arrest also by the fire station. “Neutralized” is the word Chipp used… as in shutting them up with threats or worse.

      • 258 no-nonsense-nancy December 17, 2012 at 7:34 pm

        Plus, I heard one of the surviving teachers when stepping into the hallway and seeing the bodies of the principle and the psychologist stated that she saw two gunmen. Have they told her to shut up as well? What a bunch of criminals, from the top down. I believe whoever those other shooters were, they are the ones who shot his mother.

        • 259 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 8:30 pm

          yes NNN. An execution style to the head such as was done to his mum is the M. O. of this administration. This smells so bad…..

  88. 260 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Now the ‘gun runner’ obama is whining about the OBSTACLES to banning guns………. 😆
    The biggest OBSTACLE is the 2nd amendment.

    He wants to run guns and shoot up women and children globally with drones and bombs BUT you better not own guns…….. He makes me sick. Why do we see right through him while others fall for his bullcrap?

  89. 262 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    People are shopping at the mall and are on hyper alert not because they fear another crazed shooter but they KNOW that this admin has something to do with the mall’s mass shooting attempt.

  90. 263 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Plus the tree that people hid behind during the mall shooting is GONE. where did the tree go to? It’s sooooo creepy. It’s not even festive like it was. I bet obama loves that since he hates Christmas and doesn’t buy his own kids gifts.
    The mall shooting: They said 60 shots were fired…….and only 2 people dead in a huge open area? This mall goes for miles and miles and the food court is super huge like 2 football fields large and full of people. It doesn’t add up. He didn’t kill himself……someone else shot him….. the people who got the shooter to do this, shot him… don’t you think?
    Why did he rush into the mall and yell “I am the shooter” ???
    To take the attention off of the real shooters…….

    They killed a hospice nurse……. Imagine these pigs did that.. and a sports coach… for little kids…….. pigs….obama and his pigs did this…….

    There is more to this than we know but now it’s CRICKETS on the mall shooting. WHY?

    • 264 no-nonsense-nancy December 17, 2012 at 9:09 pm

      Thanks for this info, QL. I didn’t know too many details of this. It has been kept pretty quiet.

      • 265 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 9:40 pm

        The mall is huge…….sooooooooo huge.
        If the dude had an assault rifle with automatic shots he could have wiped out hundreds in the food court…. go on any given day and see hundreds in a square area the size of football fields….the shooter shot into that crowd and only killed 2 people? How’s that? If I had been shooting I’d have picked off every single person and I am not a shooter. It’s too strange. This is so suspect that the people dare not utter the truth because they can’t get their mind around it. They just walk on egg shells and look dazed cause they know it has to do with the gobbermint.
        You’ll see lots of Semper Fi shirt wearing big bulky men who are angry over this failed false flag… too spooky what happened.

      • 266 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 9:43 pm

        Yep the dead hospice nurse’s husband can’t stop sobbing. She was an angel and she was only in her early 40’s. She helped so many people transition and then she got killed shopping for a christmas present for one of her patients. F oblah blah and the horse he rode in on. When he’s out of office the terror will stop. Watch.

  91. 268 Quantum Leap December 17, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    The obama shooters obviously didn’t know that the fire house and state police are a hop skip and jump from the Mall. They could have been on the scene in seconds… Obama fails again.
    That’s prolly what they mean by ” the mall shooter got spooked and ran down the stairs” What stairs? Where? They are located in the center of the mall……….. nothing adds up.

  92. 269 typistjan December 17, 2012 at 9:31 pm

    Okay, getting really fed up with my internet connections – this is my fourth try to post.
    This looks like the only way to stop DC


  93. 271 typistjan December 17, 2012 at 10:44 pm

    How in the hell can obama/DC think of disarming American Citizens while they use our tax dollars to are Muslim Brotherhood in foreign countries?

  94. 273 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    I want to know why Obama is bashing people who buy extra chili and store some water, gas and medicine? The left is calling them “Prepper Cons”; no joke.
    So Obama/left want Americans to have no food, water, fuel, medicine in an emergency? Hmmm, doesn’t sound like he’s on our side does it. Duh.

  95. 274 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,
    about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
    up and exterminated.


    1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
    Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and


    established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13
    million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
    rounded up and exterminated.


    established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
    political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and


    established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan
    Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


    established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians,
    unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.


    established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million
    ‘educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and


    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

    —————————— So it might be said that guns don’t kill people, gun control does!

    has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new
    law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own
    government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500
    million dollars.

    The first year results are now in:
    Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent Australia-wide, assaults
    are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent
    (yes, 44 percent)!

    In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with
    firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding
    citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still
    possess their guns! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a
    steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed
    drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are
    guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

    There has also been a
    dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian
    politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased,
    after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully
    ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the
    other historical facts above prove it.

    You won’t see this data on
    the American evening news or hear our president, governors or other
    politicians disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    note my fellow Americans…..before it’s too late! The next time
    someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this
    history lesson.

    With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we
    are ‘subjects’. We here in America have the second amendment (thank God)
    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed”
    Gun control, for our safety and the safety of the children, is the cry
    of those that would forfeit our God given right to self defense!
    (remember the 56 million who died for lack of guns to defend themselves)

    • 275 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 11:20 pm

      If you want to see what Obama would do with a gun ban

      look what he did with Kikuyes in Kenya in 2007

      he incited his Luos to slaughter them
      they were unarmed
      they hacked, raped, burned alive, shot
      innocent Kikuyes

      Obama campaigned for Luo Odinga, as he is a Luo himself

    • 276 heather December 17, 2012 at 11:21 pm

      We’ll just keep ours and our licenses updated! Not gonna give mine up!

    • 277 typistjan December 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm

      Thank you so much for posting this. I was looking for stats today and you put them here all on one page.

  96. 278 Ann December 17, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    Another interesting piece of the puzzle…Suzanne Collins, the author of “Hunger Games” lives in Sandy Hook, CT. Quite the coincidence huh?

  97. 279 typistjan December 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    I did not watch obat’s theater in CN because he makes me sick to listen to him, however if you get a big barf bucket you can read the transcript of his BS here. He believes in abortion, he believes in killing babies aborted and born alive, but he’ll send his goons in to murder 6-year olds so he can push his agenda.


    • 280 heather December 17, 2012 at 11:22 pm

      Ditto–that’s what I’ve been saying too!

    • 281 hammer and nail December 17, 2012 at 11:25 pm

      I looked up the 2009 profits for Planned Parenthood
      they made $405 MILLION in 2009, they got over $200 million in government “funding”, and their assets total over $1.1 BILLION, and their top CEO makes over $300,000.
      I’d say this is MAJOR MONEY.
      Then, they give a huge cut BACK to the DNC, which then promotes more abortion by pushing promiscuity, no values, and duping young naive women that their babies aren’t really babies.
      So the Dems give PP hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars, which are then fed back to the dems. It’s a cycle, which profits literally from an orchard crop of American babies, plucked from wombs, to fill their pockets.

      Based on this alone, I’d say the democrats have ZERO credibility insofar as purporting to care about children.

      • 282 heather December 18, 2012 at 8:52 am

        The dems have taken away our morals, modesty, integrity, accountability, responsibility, respect, religion and now they are doing everything in their power to take our guns and freedoms.

        I would say they are all anti-american and hate each and everyone of us.

        So for those who doubt what they refer to as conspiracy, keep voting them in.

  98. 283 hammer and nail December 18, 2012 at 4:16 am

    In New Orleans the army beat up little old ladies in their homes searching for guns, kicking in doors in the night, they left people defenseless…then women were gang raped, the gangs thieved and murdered at will.

    Alex Jones said this was practice for gun confiscation, so that only the blue helmets are armed. They are known for their thuggery and abuse.

  99. 284 noway2no December 18, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Not sure if this link was posted before. The video shows the “movie set” look of the “crime scene.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYQDMgjEvIU

  100. 288 typistjan December 18, 2012 at 10:19 am

    This is criminal
    Obama’s Sandy Relief Bill Filled With Pork Barrel Projects

    8.0 mil new cars for Homeland Security
    150.0 – National Oceanic for fisheries in Alaska
    2.0 – Smithsonian roof repair
    207.0 – VA Manhattan Med Center
    41.0 – fix up Eight military bases, including GITMO
    4.0 – Kennedy Space Center repairs
    3.3 – Plum Island Animal Disease Center
    1.1 – repair national cemeteries
    13.0 billion – mitigation projects to prepare for future storms
    on December 18, 2012 by Philip Hodges Filed Under Bureaucrats, Corruption

  101. 289 hammer and nail December 18, 2012 at 11:44 am

    Americans don’t believe the media (that’s for sure!)
    They don’t believe the government (Obama lies 24/7, IS a lie)
    They don’t even believe the police

    Americans have false-flag-fatigue!

  102. 290 hammer and nail December 18, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Someone on a youtube blog correlated all these FFs with lunar events, luciferian celebrations. Why did white house censor the word lunatic? Islam or lucifer?

  103. 293 Quantum Leap December 18, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    We have become technicalized, we are modernized, we are industrialized, we are commericialized, and…we have become psychologized. But who can say that we are civilized? We shall never become civilized until we first become spiritualized.

    Thus we pause on the brink. May God grant that at this Christmas Season we shall have the courage to face the issue; that we shall have the moral stamina and spiritual conviction to face it fairly and squarely; that out of our long night a new day may break. May a voice cry in our wilderness, “Prepare ye the way of the Lord. Make his path straight.” May the voice of the Great Shepherd again be heard throughout the world. Only in universal love is there universal security. May our Christmas trees this year be lighted with that love. May it glisten on the branches of our Tree of Life. May we come to understand that there is One God, One Shepherd, and One Sheep.

    Excerpted from “Blending the Human and the Divine” by Ernest Holmes

  104. 296 heather December 18, 2012 at 8:30 pm


    First I would say this was foolish on the part of the parents, but if the shoe fits, wear it. Secondly, this ought to show barry and co that americans are not going to take anymore of their FF tricks.

  105. 297 heather December 18, 2012 at 8:57 pm


    oh and since when does the fake potus make the “rules of engagement” for any of our branches of service. will this now dictate to our troops that they are fighting the wrong enemies?

  106. 298 Tiger 7 December 19, 2012 at 9:01 am

    I have come to distrust every thing this current administration does or says—with good reason, but this last school shooting thing is beyond normal belief levels. There are just too many How come questions. This job wasn’t done as cleanly as previous similar hoaxes.

    How come there are no survivor interviews–a media hot item normally

    How come no further word regarding the other one or two men stopped by the police and handcuffed

    How come no views from security cameras in the school—rest assured there were some

    How come the computer hard drive(s) were destroyed if the “shooter” was going to kill himself

    How come the “shooter” had access to the body armor and other gear

    How come, how come???

    The rule established by the Nazis seems to be in full play here—Do something so vile that it is unbelievable and people won’t believe it. These people are beyond the normal concept of evil.

  107. 301 no-nonsense-nancy December 19, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Obama just admitted that he is a dirty communist. Read it in his statement.


  108. 302 heather December 19, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    I know it’s not Christian to HATE…but what more can I say. barry is doing everything he can to completely destroy our constitution and our country and lives that WE THE PEOPLE BUILT.

    I heard a news commentator today say he was trying to do away with the 22nd amendment and stay for a 3rd term. This can never happen!

    We have got to start standing up for our country and demand that those we elect stand for us–there is no other way. These criminals have had their fun and made their billions on our backs–now its our turn to turn these tables for us.

  109. 303 typistjan December 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm



    DICK ACT of 1902
    Protection Against Tyrannical Government


  110. 304 Tenacity December 19, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    Get a “Handel” on the holidays!

  111. 307 heather December 19, 2012 at 9:21 pm


    and we should disarm because china says so–why so they can take us over?–this gun ban is out of control and this is done deliberately by barry–and the cia killed those kids. that 20 yr old could not have done that in the short time he was inside–that was a pro who did it and his father most likely was in on it since word is the father works for the cia and well as GE.

      • 309 no-nonsense-nancy December 19, 2012 at 10:16 pm

        So is China going to ban knives in china? It seems like a lot of children over there have been murdered by kooks with knives. Just let them come here and try to take guns way from Americans! That’s the difference between their opression and our freedom.(at least we are supposed to have freedom) Obama is such a dirty basta**! I can’t wait until these stupid libtards who support him get their fill. May they all go where it is real hot.

  112. 310 Voco Indubium December 20, 2012 at 1:35 am

    Attn.: Heather

    RE: “…I heard a news commentator today say he was trying to do away with the 22nd amendment and stay for a 3rd term. This can never happen! …. “

    It will happen. Who is going to stop it? The non-existing opposition party? The media? The courts? Lucky if only a 3d term. After the 3d term Dictatorship for Life more likely. And lucky, if not under Sharia law. Ask yourself who is able and willing to oppose it?

    Despite the various scandals, as Fast and Furious and Benghazi, the eligibility problem, the SSNo-discrepancy, and most importantly the election-fraud, there will not be one single member of Congress, supported by a senator, who will stand up and make the objection on January 9th, at the Elector’s Confirmation hearing of the Joint Session Congress.

    None of the conservative radio hosts are even uttering a word about it. The Tea Party is silent. The conservative blogs, unless I missed it, (please tell me if I did) are equally uninterested, and continue their ineffective chatter, preaching to the choir. The recent tragic events and debate about guns, comes handy to the regime. It takes the attention off the long term events, and the vital importance of the Last Line of Defense (DrKate’s article).

    You said “This can never happen!”. It looks as if it will happen, and it will be child’s play to make it happen. There is no organization, institution or prominent personality able and willing to stop it. There are many who could stop it, but none who is willing.

    • 311 heather December 20, 2012 at 6:40 am

      When I said this can never happen–I did not mean that it won’t–because of course it can–but we the people must not allow it to happen–perhaps I should have said it differently. I went on to say that we the people must stand up against this and demand that our so called elected officials stand with us and against him.

      I have heard Rush mention this several times over the past few yrs but nothing has ever made the MSM.

      This last mention of it the other day, I cannot remember who it was, but it was not said in jest–and the host was serious when he said it.

      • 312 Voco Indubium December 20, 2012 at 8:04 pm

        RE: Last Line of Defense

        Heather, I understand what you mean. Usually I find myself in agreement with your comments.

        Maybe I was just trying to vent my frustration over the fact that the Last Line of Defense (DrKate’s article), gets so little attention. Some of us, I believe including DrKate, think that January 9 presents a good opportunity to enforce the constitution.

        Compare it to a court procedure. There the plaintiff has to prove Standing, convince the judge that he has jurisdiction over the matter and the judge may still decide not to rule on merit, based on some other grounds such as the justiciability for example. In addition to these impediments, looking the court cases of the past four years, it is obvious, that all levels of the Judiciary Branch are heavily politically biased.

        If an objection is made observing the proper protocol, Congress must appoint an investigative body. They cannot dismiss the claim as judges do. There are no hurdles of proving Standing and jurisdiction. Based Sheriff Joe’s evidence, and adding the election fraud, it would be difficult not to arrive to the obvious conclusions.

        So much easier than lawsuits. And even if the result is not 100% predictable, upholding the constitution would be given a good chance. The investigative body would consist of members of Congress, presumably from both parties, and it would be difficult for them to sweep inconvenient issues under the rug, in the usual manner of the courts. If they decide to refer part of the decisions to the courts, SCOTUS would have to decide on merit. There could be no excuses, the court must rule.

        Is any member of congress (and a senator) willing to do this? Who? It is too much to expect that they would do it for keeping their oaths to protect the constitution, but if their motivation is purely selfish and fueled by their greed for power and money, that is good enough.

        Is the importance and advantage of January 9, not obvious?

        Could we hear other reader’s opinions, please?

  113. 314 hammer and nail December 20, 2012 at 4:36 am

    Rapes happen daily: Ban Penises!
    Government should institute a penis ban
    starting with big ones
    then medium ones
    eventually all of them

    the government has to be the biggest dick of all

  114. 315 heather December 20, 2012 at 6:53 am

    He keeps getting away with murder literally, and he gets nothing–why? Benghazi is a joke and no one will get called on that one. Didn’t he say that he took full responsibility – yes he did, so where is the arrest warrent?

    When the media says obamas america, thats exactly what they mean. This is our country not his and I want to just puke every time he opens his lying mouth and swaggers on stage to lie to us more, and his arrogant attitude…..is he untouchable?

  115. 316 no-nonsense-nancy December 20, 2012 at 7:56 am

    I hope Kate is OK. This thread has been up for over a week and a half and she hasn’t commented since noon time on Monday.

    This is an excellent article by Chuck Baldwin. Also, I have been reading Jon Rappaport everu dau. He is right on about this stuff, too.


  116. 321 typistjan December 20, 2012 at 8:29 am

    OT – I have a friend with a sense of humor so enjoy and laugh, laughter is good for the soul.


  117. 324 Tenacity December 20, 2012 at 11:30 am

    http://www.jmccanneyscience.com (also http://www.jmccsci.com)

    will the world end on December 21, 2012 ??? NOOOOOOOOO !!!! was there ever any basis for the incredible amount of press this issue has gotten ??? NOOOOOOOO !!! it was simply a well constructed disinformation ploy started almost a decade ago to destroy the real issues of topics like the Planet X issue (that there are MANY planet X objects) and yes they can and will some day affect our planet and other planets … they will NOT appear as large round balls in the sky – they will not crash into earth but affect us at a distance and will appear as large raging comets … the amount of effort put into the 2012 end of the world campaign which has lead (as expected) to the NASA white hats riding in to save the day with their phony tier II garbage “science” was more than predictable … but billions of people will be fooled and that was the plan all along … since the 2003 “crazy lady talks to aliens – planet X is going to kill us all” similar constructed disinformation campaign did not have the global effect that was intended … brought to you by the same disinformation crew … it is a long and complex story … but the simple answer is that the people who run this planet are deathly afraid that the public en-masse would someday wake up to the real issues and start turning their attention from all the phony issues that are tossed at you every day on the bullshit news media that dominate every fabric of our “information age” … the elite would lose control and that is the story….

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