Questions for a Constitutional Convention

©2013 drkate

Of all the so called ‘Patriot Actions’ the one that is most disturbing to me is the call for a Constitutional Convention.  Over the last several years many have proposed new amendments to the Constitution, including some of the major provisions such as the qualifications for the office of the president, and other amendments that require Congress to follow the same rules as citizens of the United States and a balanced budget amendment.

What we don’t hear, even from the patriots, is the need to eliminate illegal amendments–those not ratified properly by the states– such as the 14th, 16th, and 17th amendments.  Nor do we hear calls for the restoration of the original 13th Amendment, which would have prevented lawyers (titles of nobility such as ‘esquire) to serve in government.  And of course, nobody talks about enforcing the existing constitution, which for example would eliminate the need for a ‘balanced budget amendment’ because Congress would have to stay within its enumerated powers.

So the lawyers and lobbyists across the country are pushing for a Constitutional Convention, glaringly a ‘con’ as in ‘con con’.  Remember this is the same group of people who were barred from serving in government by the original 13th amendment, which ‘disappeared’ from the Constitution  after the war of 1812.  The British burned the White House and the effort was to eliminate the records, research, and proceedings that produced the Declaration of Independence and the first Constitutional Convention which produced the Constitution for the United States.

The lawyers and legal profession, and its gaggle of judges, would go on to essentially ‘gut’ the Constitution’s provisions by developing the Administrative Procedures Act  (APA) and other “legal tools” to prevent we the people from even knowing the strength of the Constitution’s provisions and the protection of our  God-given rights enshrined therein.   The APA essentially makes it impossible to gut excessive agency development, for example, the EPA, and allows a suit only on the grounds that it violates the APA, not the Constitution’s limits on executive power. If the lawyers were barred initially from serving in the government, what are they doing now rewriting the constitution?

What will Disappear in the New Constitution? 

Photo of Ayers taken on September 11, 2001

Photo of Ayers taken on September 11, 2001

You can believe that our founding on God’s law–common law–will be eliminated.  This is the dream of all the marxist dems and all the republicans, now clearly just one part of the cabal that dislikes the American people and disrespects our founding documents, calls our founding fathers ‘terrorists’, and claims that our constitution is fatally flawed.  This propaganda has been spread to the general population through government schools (Common Core, anyone?), and now through our churches which have completed the ‘falling away’ as  2 Thessalonians 2:3 predicted.  And here we have Pastors saying that the American people do not deserve liberty anymore.  We can point fingers at everyone else as to who is responsible for this debacle, but when you point one finger at anyone three point back at you.

If our founding principles disappear, then all we have is a counterfeit.  That suits satan’s purposes just fine.  As long as we don’t remember God, or Jesus the Christ, our the founding principles of common law within the ten commandments, then confusion and lies will reign.  That’s the plan.

Questions for a Constitutional Convention

Is a Constitutional Convention an appropriate tool to renew the foundations of liberty in America?  Here are some questions for consideration that will help you decide!

  1. What will a Constitutional Convention cover?  What rules will limit the scope and coverage of a Constitutional Convention?
  2. How are the delegates to the Constitutional Convention selected?  Who selects them?
  3. What choice do ‘we the people’ have in selecting Convention Delegates and what assurance do the people have that these delegates will be truly representative of the people?
  4. Why are Constitutional Convention proponents mostly lawyers?
  5. Do people know that a Constitutional Convention has as much power as a joint session of Congress?
  6. Will the Constitutional Convention rewrite the constitution?
  7. How can we prevent the Constitutional Convention from rewriting the Constitution?
  8. It is known that the Obama regime has already drafted a new Constitution, its ready to go.  What will prevent Obama’s constitution from replacing our constitution?
  9. The original 13th Amendment prohibited lawyers (anyone who took a title such as “Esquire”) from serving in government.  Why is it that mostly lawyers are promoting a Constitutional Convention, and shouldn’t they be barred from participating?
  10. What provisions, or where is the law, that provides for a state to rescind its call for a Constitutional Convention?
  11. Will a Constitutional Convention be able to rescind or remove the 14th, 16th, and 17th Amendments, which were not properly ratified by the States?
  12. The Constitution is based on Common Law.  The lawyers have corrupted this and believe the Constitution is ‘case law’.  Will the Constitutional Convention return us to Common Law?
  13. Most attorneys ignored Article II of the constitution  which confirms that Obama is not constitutionally eligible to serve as president, saying it was  ‘a matter of interpretation’.  Who are they to now rewrite the Constitution?
  14. How can a constitutional convention defeat the liberal agenda when the call to revise the constitution is a call from the left, liberal, lawyers???

What is going on in your part of the country on a Constitutional Convention?  Where do citizens, legislators, Pastors, and attorneys stand on this issue in your state?

117 Responses to “Questions for a Constitutional Convention”


    • 2 drkate October 21, 2013 at 5:00 pm

      apparently this ‘new constitution’ has been debunked. Whew! But there is other information, please check out “Behold a Pale Horse” by William Cooper, which contains a model constitution for the new states of America 😯

      • 3 drkate October 21, 2013 at 5:49 pm

        For the record, it would be stupid of the marxists not to have something already waiting in the wings, debunked or not!

  1. 4 drkate October 21, 2013 at 2:27 pm

    From Red Beckman…Scripture says that a good man leaves an inheritance to his children and grandchildren…well our congress is filled with bad men as they are leaving our children and grand children nothing but debt! 😡

    This is inter-generational theft, a violation of God’s commandment to not steal!!!

  2. 5 Lauralee October 21, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    My question is this: As we know, our current (and past) administration is not adhering to the constitution as it is. So what makes us think that they will pay any attention to a proposed (or passed) new amendment?

  3. 7 Bette Schultz October 21, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    drkate – Thank you so much for the above post. You are so right. I’m strongly in favor of educating the electorate so that they will elect state representatives that will use Nullification. Without an informed electorate, there is little chance of restoring the Constitution.

  4. 8 justafly October 21, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    The best idea (short of watering the Tree of Liberty) is for the states to offer an Amendment to the U.S. Constitution per Article V. It would require 33 states to offer the Amendment and 38 to ratify the Amendment.

  5. 14 no-nonsense-nancy October 21, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    This is a very good essay, Kate. It really worries me that they may try to have a con con. Educating the people about the constitution is vital. One of the grass roots organizations that I belong to has constitution classes regularly. In fact I was just at one this evening. I take it every year. We also get a lot of new members by holding the classes. We even have 2 dems who joined and are running for local public offices and are just remarkable women. And they did not vote for Obama either time!

  6. 15 Clair Reading October 21, 2013 at 9:10 pm

    The attorneys are hot and heavy pushing con con in MT.

    Article V, “Convention of States” Focus of
    MT Center Right Meeting-Bozeman

    The Convention of States (COS), promoted by individuals including Rob Natelson, Mark Levin, Mark Meckler and others is the keynote of October’s Bozeman Center Right meeting. Presenting will be State Senator Majority Leader Art Wittich, who has championed this issue in the Montana legislature.
    COS is a project, of Citizens for Self Governance, a group founded by Mark Meckler and others. According to its website, “COS seeks to urge and empower state legislators to call a convention of states. The delegates at such a convention would have the power to propose amendments to the Constitution that would curb the abuses of the federal government. Article V of the Constitution gives them this power; the COS Project will give them an avenue through which they can use it.”
    While the idea is controversial among Center Right activists, it behooves each of us to become more familiar with the idea. Some of the best Constitutional scholars and influencers are supporting this project. This will be the first of several such discussions and presentations on the subject. Join us this Tuesday for a lively one!

    Agenda

    State Senate Majority Leader Art Wittich, “The Convention of States Project.”
    Joe Balyeat/Henry Kriegel, AFP-MT, “Debt Ceiling and Federal Budgetting: Where do we go from here?”
    Discussion: Local Elections
    Organizational updates: MT Pachyderms, MT Tea Party Coalition/Bozeman Tea Party, Livingston Tea Party, MSU CR’s
    For the good of the order

    If you have anything you would like on the agenda, please email henrykriegel@gmail.com.
    Tuesday, October 22nd at 6pm
    Billion Chrysler Dodge
    355 Automotive Ave,
    Bozeman, MT 59718
    (off of Cottonwood, 2Thursday blocks North of Huffine)

    This meeting is by invitation only. If you’d like to invite someone to attend. please let me know. The more the merrier so long as your guests know how to work well with others. Any candidate is welcome to address the MT Center Right Coalition regardless of party affiliation.

    About the Center Right Meetings
    Montanans for Tax Reform hosts and sponsors monthly center-right coalition meetings where individuals and organizations can network, share ideas, collaborate or respectfully disagree. The views and opinions expressed by participants at these meetings should not be construed as an endorsement of those views by MTR. It is simply an open forum to allow for the free marketplace exchange of ideas. It is one of the most brutally honest exchange of political ideas and insights you will find anywhere.

    • 16 Tenacity October 22, 2013 at 10:18 am

      This is from Secure Arkansas and broadcast in August 2013:

      Say No to an Article V Amendment Convention

      Can YOU handle the truth contained in this article? Read the information below, then do a search for yourself.

      Mark Levin, talk show host of the Mark Levin Show sponsored by Americans For Prosperity, has just come out with a new book, The Liberty Amendments. Mark’s book promotes an Article V Amendment Convention (Con-Con).

      No thanks, Mark. This is a dangerous position. The Constitutional Convention is how the Articles of Confederation got replaced. Mark is wrong. Americans for Prosperity is wrong. American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) is wrong. Do a Google search for “Controlled Opposition” and then follow the money. Both political parties are involved. “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

      The following YouTube video presentation provides both the problem and a solution:

      After you have listened to the Quigley Formula YouTube video presentation, you should have a better understanding about what is going on in America and have an open mind on what is being presented below.

      “Anyone who doesn’t take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.” Albert Einstein

      Many grassroots, Tea Party, and Christian groups are being infiltrated with progressive ideas by people presenting themselves as Conservatives, Christians, or Patriots. We must all be truth seekers. Don’t accept any information without checking out both the message AND the person. That includes everything. Just because someone claims to be something doesn’t mean they are. Everyone and everything needs to be vetted. Sometimes the truth is hard to swallow, but it is the truth.

      Citizens for Self-Governance launches a new project to call a convention of states to implement Mark Levin’s “Liberty Amendments” Strategy. This is calling for a Convention of the States via Article V Amendment Convention. (Any Article V Amendment Convention is dangerous and could turn into a runaway convention.) Michael P. Farris is in charge of this project.

      The leadership team is:
      Mark Meckler – President
      Michael P. Farris – Senior Fellow for Constitutional Studies, Head of Convention of the States Project
      Mark Wohlschlegel II – Executive Director
      Laura Fennig – Coalitions Director
      Jordan Sillars – Communications Director

      With all that being said, we have checked out Michael P. Farris and Grover G. Norquist because Norquist is the Director of ParentalRights.org of which Farris is the President.

      Grover G. Norquist is a key player for the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). Norquist CFR membership can be confirmed from CFR’s own web site.

      Grover G. Norquist is the Director of ParentalRights.org of which Michael P. Farris is the President. Michael P. Farris surely would have vetted Norquist before he made him director, so he should have known he was a CFR member. Remember: it is the Council on Foreign Relations that controls policy in the U.S.A.

      Michael P. Farris
      Citizens for Self-Governance – Senior Fellow for Constitutional Studies, head of Convention of the States Project
      This one of the groups with whom Michael P. Farris is associated and which is pushing for an Article V Amendment Convention.
      Michael P. Farris current relationships:
      Christian Freedom International – advisory board member
      ParentalRights.org – president

      Grover G. Norquist personal relations:
      Cleta Mitchell – spokesman
      Samah Norquist – spouse
      Other current Grover G. Norquist relationships:
      American Conservative Union – director
      American Society of Competitiveness – president
      American Spectator – contributing editor
      Americans for Tax Reform – founder & president
      America’s Future Foundation – advisory board member
      Council on Foreign Relations – member
      GOProud – advisory council member
      National Rifle Association of America – director
      ParentalRights.org – director
      Grover G. Norquist past relationships:
      Jack Abramoff – political ally
      Citizens for America – field director
      College Republican National Committee – executive director
      Council for National Policy – director
      Council of Republicans for Environmental Advocacy – co-founder
      Janus-Merritt Strategies – co-founder
      Joseph E. Seagram & Sons Inc. – lobbyist
      Microsoft Corporation – lobbyist
      National Taxpayers Union – executive director

      Reason why we must NOT promote an Article V Amendment Convention:
      There is no provision in Article V empowering state legislators to choose the delegates to a Constitutional Convention or to “limit” the scope of a Con-Con. There are no rules, no regulations or instructions, and once a Convention is underway, the delegates answer to NOBODY!

      According to Corpus Juris Secundum 16 C.J.S 9 (a compilation of State Supreme Court findings):

      The members of a Constitutional Convention are the direct representatives of the people, and as such
      (1) They may exercise all sovereign powers that are vested in the people of the state.
      (2) They derive their powers not from the legislature, but from the people.
      (3) Their power may not in any respect be limited or restrained by the legislature.
      (4) Under this view, it is a Legislative Body of the Highest Order and may not only frame, but may also enact and promulgate.

      Legislators are being told, and they believe, that they will be able to control a Convention! IT’S A LIE!!!

      For the past 225 years, the Constitution has been amended without a convention because the risks of a repeat of 1787 has been, and still is, a well-known FACT.

      Governor Mike Levitt (Utah) said it outright in his 1994 White Paper regarding the planned Conference of States to be held in “historic Philadelphia” in ’95:

      “CONGRESS TRIED TO LIMIT THE CONVENTION’S AUTHORITY by stating it would meet ‘for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation’.”

      “As we all know, the delegates to the great Constitutional Convention in 1787 in Philadelphia did much more than that. They threw out the Articles of Confederation and drafted a new constitution.”

      Obama wants our guns! Under the 2nd Amendment, he CANNOT get our guns without throwing out the entire Constitution! If we lose that, everybody, including state legislators, loses their freedom.

      • 17 Tenacity October 22, 2013 at 10:50 am

        So this Con Con effort is traced back to the CFR. Not surprising, eh? It is a move of the globalists to destroy the constitution and they are working through their agents in the B.A.R. to accomplish it!

        • 18 Ann October 22, 2013 at 8:11 pm

          Crap, I knew it sounded “off” when I first heard of it. Now I know why. My instincts are usually right and I ignored them this time. So now we have to fight against this, along with everything else we’re fighting. Sheesh.

  7. 20 heather October 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    We need to vote them all out and bring in our own conservatives–no more life time career politicians–term limits from here on out!

  8. 22 QL October 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    #9 has irked me forever that lawyers are swarming the WH and congress under the guise of “serving” the people. Notice the ones who are not lawyers adhere to the constitution? Like the ‘doctors in congress’.
    No one bats an eye at this current unconstitutional offense of lawyers being in government.

    “And here we have Pastors saying that the American people do not deserve liberty anymore”

    From the start of this usurper mystery man’s arrival on the scene in his run for president in 2008, there was much talk about FEMA Camps by bloggers and how BHO would use the pastors to ‘corral’ the people to do BHO’s bidding when he reached the end of his goals.
    We do not forget.
    Does that mean he is close to the end of his goals now?😡

    There are so many distractions with numerous bills written behind the scenes.

    Keep up the prayers.

    We have a phony and illegal president who thinks that raising the debt limit is not really more spending. How does he get away with this idiocy? Word management? Shallow and low IQ electorate?

  9. 23 Tenacity October 21, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    “Defend, NOT Amend” must be our mantra!

    The attorneys are drunk with government school brainsoiling and deluded by their own intellect and power lust.

    Here are some facts:
    1) The one and only historical Con Con was called to make a few modifications to the Articles of Confederation. Once the doors were locked to the public, a totally new constitution was written.
    2) There are no provisions or written limitations on the scope of a Con Con. Legislative counsels (attorneys employed by the States) have been advising State legislators that they can limit a Con Con to the “balanced budget” issue. This is a lie and many States that had previously called for a Con Con have rescinded their call for just that reason.
    3) There is no provision or law that provides for any State rescinding its call once the call is issued. Legislative counsels have been deceiving State legislators into believing that their call of Con Con can be rescinded if the Con Con engages a topic outside the one specified in their respective call. I’ve asked a legislative counsel to show me the law. He couldn’t and they cannot because it does not exist.
    4) There is no provision or explicitly codified instruction for how the delegates to a Con Con are to be selected. The one thing we know for sure is that the people will not elect them. One of 3 methods are expected to be employed: A) the governor will select them; B) The State legislature will select them, and; C) a nominating committee will provide candidates to be approved by the State legislature or governor. Let me tell you who will select them. The bankster establishment will select them. The people with the money that have put the governors and the most powerful legislators into their positions of power will dictate who the delegates are. Rockefeller, Soros, Axelrod, Kissinger, Jarrett, H.W. Bush, Morgan, Warburg, Rothschild and the globalist bankster cabal will control who goes to the Con Con. Try to deny what I’m saying. Ask the stinking barristers that are pushing this just how they expect to stop this from happening. If they claim they can stop it then they are lying through their bought and sold teeth.

    Given this political environment, nothing could be a greater threat to our federation of States, to our republics, to our unalienable rights and to our constitution than a Con Con. We must stop this nonsense and stop it dead in its tracks right now. Go to these meetings and call these deceivers out! Put the 4 points I made above on a flyer and pass them out at the meetings. This is of the most importance! Stop the lies! All that is needed here is for the people to hold the government accountable to the chains of OUR EXISTING FOUNDING LAW…The organic U.S. Constitution. If we cannot enforce it, what will replace it will only enslave us further. “Defend, NOT Amend” must be our mantra!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 24 Tenacity October 21, 2013 at 11:44 pm

      And yes, this is a spiritual battle. Satan is behind this and we must keep YHWH & Yahushua going before us. You have never seen a time when prayer and fasting were more important. May YHWH guard us against this evil. Amen!

      • 25 Troy October 22, 2013 at 7:50 am

        Terry, have you ever looked into where the word, “Amen” originates from?…..Hint – ancient Egypt.

        I’m only mentioning it because I know that you have put so much effort into researching all things biblical and religious and are shaking off so much of the convoluted misteachings and are getting back to the true Hebrew language and teachings of our Lord.

  10. 30 Parfie October 22, 2013 at 12:05 am

    Thank you so much for the excellent article! I am fed up, and the one who sits (and spends our money like no previous person before), in OUR whitehouse, needs to be impeached. We The People, have. Got to find a way to get back to OUR Constitution!

    • 32 Clair Reading October 23, 2013 at 11:47 am

      But Ten, what the attorneys are marketing is a Conference of States not a Constitutional Convention. LOL Don’t you just love these word smiths aka attorneys. Change the word so the stupid people think it’s something else. “Then we’ll [ the attorneys and the lower IQ attorneys( the judges)] “interpret” it according to OUR meaning.”

      • 33 Tenacity October 23, 2013 at 1:49 pm

        Yes Clair, and I understand Nadelson is telling people not to call it a Constitutional Convention, but rather a “Convention of States”. This is an established tactic of the bankster cabal. They* believe if they change the name, people will think its something new: Templars-Freemasons, Illuminati-Club of 300 & etc. They* also like to take a name that implies something good to cover Their* satanic agendas: Counsel on Foreign Relations (CFR), Federal Reserve (Private Foreign Corporation), The Crown or City of London (which are neither). Back in the late 60s and early 70s, Fagan disclosed the fact that the CFR was the Illuminati’s controlling organization over America. They are undoubtedly the driving force behind this push for a Con Con (appropriate name).

  11. 36 no-nonsense-nancy October 22, 2013 at 7:27 am

    How about the Third Continental Congress? Is it still active? Wouldn’t that be the way to go? I had very high hopes for it a couple years back. Kate, Ten?

    • 37 Tenacity October 22, 2013 at 10:39 am

      Nancy, Most of the members of the Third Continental Congress are still active, but are working within their respective States because it is the only productive arena to work within. The Continental Congress 2009 was a ‘Board of Review’ but it was without experience and did not fully understand its power and authority. To better understand a ‘Board of Review’, please read Article 61 of the Magna Charta.

      We are working to organize Boards of Review within counties and States federation wide and provide templates for Writs of Prohibito, Madamus and Quo Warranto as well as Orders of the People for use by the local Boards.

      A conference call will occur next Monday evening to announce a new website and Order of the People available for signature. For those desiring to participate, advise Dr. Kate and she will provide my contact information.

  12. 38 typistjan October 22, 2013 at 1:06 pm

    Dr. Kate, Wow, what a great topic and thanks to all the posters here.
    Some people are awake, like here, others are just now waking up, sort of, and are scared, what better time to sucker them in?
    Article V Convention is a new term for ConCon to throw people off.

    If we cannot control Congress and demand they follow the Constitution, if we cannot control our borders and demand Congress to obey the laws they write, what makes anyone think a ConCon will be the answer?

    More laws to break?

  13. 39 Clair Reading October 22, 2013 at 2:38 pm

    I went into http://www.conventionofstates. This is FAR from a grass roots effort. That is of cause if you consider grass roots to include the weeds called legaleses. There’s big bucks behind this movement. TX for mentioning the Americans for Prosperity connection. Per that notice I received (see above) note “Joe Balyeat/Henry Kriegel, AFP-MT”. Both were initially with the Bozeman TEA Party. Then they moved on to bigger and better things. I couldn’t figure out why that chapter had so much money to spend while the rest of us had 0 to nadda. Natelson was always cozy with both especially with Balyeat going back to Balyeat’s days as a MT state legislator. You may want to check this one of several videos at the COS web site. Also keep in mind that Natelson also thought that MT CI 75 was a guaranteed winner. It was, but the Supreme court thought otherwise.
    Prof. Rob Natelson speaks at ALEC (full speech) | Convention of States
    http://www.conventionofstates.com/media/prof-rob-natelson-speaks-alec-full-speech

  14. 41 veryconcernedcitizen42 October 22, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    I and my wife attended the meeting last PM involving Rob Natelson with the MC being Tim Baldwin. There were two groups in that room last night, one was following blindly the words of Mr. Natelson and Mr. Baldwin, while the other group sat shaking their heads in disbelief at what they were hearing. Myself, I’m more than a bit opposed to the idea of a Constitutional Convention, I will do everything in my power to work against such an insane proposition. For us, the evening was owned by a gentlemen who stood next to last in the line of questioners, when his turn came he nailed the problem on the head drilling holes in Mr. Natelson’s and Mr. Baldwin’s Constitutional Convention boat by simply making this questioning statement (I am paraphrasing here, I did not have time to write it down exactly). The gentlemen simply asked how it was that Mr. Natelson, was so sure he had the solution to the problem when today this very moment, the three branches of the federal government (all of them) were violating our Republics Constitution, continuously and no one was doing anything about it. What happened next was priceless, Mr. Natelson swung into the Rob Natelson ‘Two Step’ in an effort to miss direct the man’s question and ended up not answering it simply by drop kicking the question out the door using his Constitutional Convention agenda booted foot to do it. As I wrote, there were two groups in that room, one group who blindly followed what Natelson was dispensing which I call a snake oil remedy for the problem that is not a problem provided we the people demanded it be dwelt with in a very direct manner. I saw a Wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing last night, fact is, I saw two Wolves dressed as sheep last night. I think Obama’s death panel covers a much larger area than Obamacare, I think we saw a couple of panel members last night in action and I want no part of their poison pill called a Constitutional Convention. We have the Constitution, it’s alive and well, whats missing are the citizens who can read with understanding guided by Truth, bolstered by Honor, supported by Integrity. By the way, the Natelson ‘Two Step,’ has been around a very long time, it has everything to do with smoke n’ mirrors. Call it as you see fellow citizens because once the dance is over there is no going back. We have the rules of engagement, they are the Bill of Rights and the Constitution of the United States. What’s missing is the enforcement of the rules by We The Very People for whom the rules were set in place to protect. I think its fair to say we have disappointed our Forefathers through our none involvement. Read this book,”Betrayed By The Bench, author John A. Stormer. Page 17, “If we’d really go back to applying the Constitution as it was written, there are all sorts of things that we in government won’t be able to do” Missouri State Senator, Jerry Howard, 1996. Or even better, read this book “The Law” by Frederic Bastiat.

  15. 44 QL October 22, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Emotion is at the heart of progressive ideology. Facts and reality are irrelevant.

  16. 45 typistjan October 22, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    A little OT but what a great message

  17. 46 typistjan October 23, 2013 at 2:02 am

    Wow, so many dots connected and where to start with solutions too.

  18. 47 Mick October 23, 2013 at 3:12 am

    If you allow this band of criminals in Congress to get anywhere near the lock box of the Constitution then you deserve what they will do to it.

  19. 50 Clair Reading October 23, 2013 at 1:02 pm

    Did anyone video tape either of the meetings? The one in Kallispel or Bozeman?

    • 56 Tenacity October 25, 2013 at 6:39 pm

      FYI, I’ve never heard anyone compare a Con Con to a major Party convention. If they did, it would almost be as ludicrous as Natelson’s article. The 1861 Washington Peace Conference was only to propose amendments to Congress and not a call for Con Con. It did not carry the weight of a Joint Session of Congress. Congress ultimately rejected their suggestions. A Con Con doesn’t make suggestions to Congress, it writes amendments to be ratified by the States.

      Natelson obviously believes he is a lot smarter than the rest of us common folk. I have news for him.

  20. 57 typistjan October 23, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    OT, I remember back in the 70s when public schools did not have enough books for every student, so the books remained in the classroom. Guess that was so parents could not read them.

    We are now building a whole generation of good little communists

    http://www.eagleforum.org/publications/column/checking-kids-school-assignments.html

  21. 59 QL October 23, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    OT-
    A spokeswoman from Blue Cross Blue Shield acknowledged that only 14 North Dakotans have registered for coverage since October 1, when the federal exchange hit the market. There have only been 20 enrollees in the entire state since October 1.
    😆

    And the typical narcissist in chief demanded that Blue cross not disclose how few signed on for this train wreck. Blue Cross did NOT comply.😀

  22. 60 QL October 24, 2013 at 12:16 am

    .This doesn’t include all the Blue Cross and Blue Shield customers who got policy cancellation notices

    Kaiser Health News reported this week that hundreds of thousands of Americans have received notices from their insurers canceling their policies: 300,000 from Florida Blue and 160,000 from Kaiser Permanente in California.

    One industry analyst told Kaiser Health News the moves may be a way of insurers ridding their own rolls of costly consumers they don’t want, and pushing those people onto the federal health exchanges.

    “When you begin to look at these hundreds of thousands of people, I think what you’re going to see at the end of October are more Americans are going to lose their health insurance than are going to sign up at these exchanges,” the Ohio Republican told reporters.

    So now we have hundred’s of thousands of people without Health Insurance and they are scrambling to get “something” for a sick family member~Gateway pundit in regards to John Boehner’s prediction.

  23. 62 no-nonsense-nancy October 24, 2013 at 6:08 am

    Is this why Obama and his cronies picked the Canadian company to handle the healthcare web site? No wonder they don’t seemed concerned that it is a train wreck.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58745

    • 63 drkate October 24, 2013 at 10:06 am

      LC suggests this is a purposeful virus infecting obamacare…and is part of a plan to destroy the regime, but not by friendly folk, by the other part of the cabal. This will probably spread to the EBT cards so that welfare folks are going to be in complete riot by mid november!

  24. 64 Clair Reading October 24, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    Are you having a show tonight? I can’t find the link.

    • 70 Kathy October 25, 2013 at 1:14 am

      I”m not sure what these guy’s were talking about with the National Guard, but Oklahoma’s Governor has made it very clear that she is the Commander and Chief of the OK Nat’l Guard. She wore a very specific shirt during the Moore tornado disaster. Check the videos.

      As far as the documentation that was shown, it is pure propaganda. It’s very old and is referring to Nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons. The last document page screen shot even spells it out.

  25. 72 no-nonsense-nancy October 25, 2013 at 7:56 am

    Is anyone familiar with the author of this article? I hope not too many people read this or believe it. There is a lot of misinformation in it. this woman must have surely been dumbed down in the government schools.

    http://www.activistpost.com/2013/10/constitution-con-11-hidden-facts.html

  26. 74 QL October 25, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    NOW you know why the GOP is blamed for everything and is being slammed. Obama is trying to destroy the GOP so he can have a one party rule.
    “Published on Oct 16, 2013
    MUST LISTEN to the full video. MUST LISTEN. Everyone everywhere please listen.

    SHOCKING! US SENATE RIPOFF! United? States of America is now a DICTATORSHIP!
    You have been warned – I am NOT going to say WAKE UP! Just watch and listen – if you don’t get it on the first round then replay it!
    THINK! What are the implications of this?
    Not news to us is it? Then tell me why there is no rioting???”

    • 75 heather October 25, 2013 at 10:12 pm

      Rush Limbaugh talked about this same thing on his show a few weeks ago–the Republicans are aware of this and Obama will fail. There are just too many top lawyers, drs, retired military brass and we the people to allow this to happen……I think a lot of these things are propaganda to lower our expectation of everything good—remember American military dropped propaganda leaflets all over Europe during WW1 and 2. It serves again as a distraction.

    • 76 heather October 25, 2013 at 10:19 pm

      Chris Van Halen is one big a$$hole–he is a clone of barry dictating to the residents of Maryland. He is hated in that state.

      • 77 lana October 26, 2013 at 7:30 pm

        Tell me about it! He was born in Pakistan and for some crazy reason keeps get elected by bigger margins each election. Probably because Maryland is full of rich liberals.

        • 78 heather October 27, 2013 at 7:32 pm

          Ditto-MD is a radical lib state-my son lives there and hates their politics. Van Hollen and his gang are just as evil as barry, shumer, reid, Pelosi, ad that freak mayor from NYC-who thinks his money will buy everything–after all he bought his 3rd term as mayor.

          Did not know he was born in Pakistan.

  27. 79 QL October 25, 2013 at 3:53 pm

    Obama to Military – Will you FIRE on Americans?

    Military litmus test. Obama asking officers if they will shoot an American if the command was given. Some officers stepping down. Government buying enough ammunition on to kill half the population along with body bags. Obama shaking up the top ranks of the military command structure — but is it also preparing to make war on the American population? According to a person identified as a former senior military official, the answer to that shocking question is yes.
    Human rights activist Jim Garrow says that the source, man regarded as “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” told him that President Obama is using a new litmus test for “determining who will stay and who must go” among top-ranked military leaders. That test is whether they will fire on US citizens or not. Garrow says that his source made the disclosure in order to “sound the alarm” over the administration’s plans.

  28. 80 QL October 25, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Is it too late? It would be great to have this vid in text.

    “Published on Oct 9, 2013
    October 12 2013 NWO executive orders president Obama has stripped every USA citizen of any rights – United Nations has been given USA sovereignty we are slaves to Communist China.

  29. 81 QL October 25, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    NASA: The End Of Mankind “Leaked Document” 2013
    Published on Jun 26, 2013
    This is a very important video with Deborah Tavares and Trevor Coppola discussing the newly revealed NASA FUTURE WARFARE DOCUMENT. People need to be informed at least given the chance to see this information and make the decision themselves to believe and act on it or not. Please circulate far and wide and make sure you download the pdf document.

    More About Trevor Coppola Here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3204131/

    More Here: http://adg-uk.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/

    NEARLY 600,000 views on this vid since June 2013.

    WATCH THIS!

  30. 82 QL October 25, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    My post went to mod I guess.

  31. 83 QL October 25, 2013 at 5:06 pm

    I have a headache now.
    Watch this based on a NASA doc..

  32. 84 QL October 25, 2013 at 11:12 pm

    10 indications that US is a dictatorship:
    1. Rule by force, not by law.
    2. Crushing peaceful protests.
    3. Checkpoints.
    4. Citizen Spy network.
    5. Executive Orders.
    6. Control of regulatory agencies.
    7. President declares war unilaterally.
    8. Torture.
    9. Forced labor camps. (gulags)
    10. Control over all communications (propaganda)

  33. 85 QL October 26, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Statesman Ron Paul hits it out of the park.

  34. 88 Bill Walker October 26, 2013 at 11:43 am

    One correction to the above. The address for one file is http://www.foavc.org/reference/file41.pdf not http://www.foavc.org/reference/file 41.pdf as stated. Sorry for the typo.

  35. 91 Tenacity October 26, 2013 at 3:10 pm

    Sabbath starts this evening at sundown. It is the 3rd Sabbath of the 7th month, or day 22. It is the Closing Festival and a qodesh gathering, closing the season of in-gathering. Today is the last day of Sukkoth (Festival of Tabernacles). YHWH bless!

  36. 93 typistjan October 26, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    FEMA documents leaked plus several videos and many links to go with it

    http://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/2013/10/26/fema-camp-documents-leaked/

  37. 95 heather October 26, 2013 at 7:49 pm

    http://patriotaction.net/forum/topic/show?id=2600775%3ATopic%3A6456166&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

    Listen carefully—this is no joke—-yes we have heard and read this before, but not like this……this is the real deal.

    • 96 heather October 26, 2013 at 8:03 pm

      Oops–guess I didn’t see QL’s video above before I posted this one—so mine is a dup-no sense viewing it.

      • 97 typistjan October 26, 2013 at 10:23 pm

        Heather, did you listen to these two from that forum topic?
        part 1 – and part 2. Part one gives accountings of what is happening to those that try to sign up for obamacare, find out the price, and opt out. then what happens will blow your mind.

        Obama vs Brietbart and Tom Clancy

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2xQPdF9zc Part 1, if you want to hear about obamacare fiascos that are happening now.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1SZX1hXptk Part 2

        • 98 heather October 27, 2013 at 7:07 am

          I did not listen–but I have my thoughts on those just signing into that site–bang—they capture your entire life as soon as you hit ENTER!–all of your privacy is gone at that point–maybe I am wrong but I highly doubt it.

          We just got our new health insurance for 2014 and prices did not go up to much but it is now based on your earnings. It’s all broken down into tier levels whereas the killbill (they say) is based on color codes–gold, silver, bronze etc. Ours is renewed open enrollment and is compliant with the feds. Later today I will read the books and post what is covered and is not–all compliant with obamacare.

  38. 99 heather October 27, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-roads-black-boxes-20131027,0,6090226.story#axzz2iwgNTpAq

    Just another constitutional violation of our privacy. And to think that these morons in DC are all for this–omg–vote them all out once and for all.

  39. 101 Tenacity October 27, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    I have not analyzed this yet. Even if you don’t accept the predictions, there is a lot of information here that is undeniable. Do I trust Williams, no but he is correct that what he has been told in the past has been substantially accurate. At some point, I have expected him to be deceived as a part of a critical disinformation They* want put out by someone They* have made to be trusted. It is interesting that Williams elected not to work with Alex Jones for this report. So please use your discernment when listening to this. If you have verifiable information to disprove any of this, please share it here.

    • 102 Tenacity October 28, 2013 at 1:06 am

      I just watched the last few minutes of the above video. In essence, at the end, Williams does what some might label an alter call. After having read through the Scriptures multiple times, no where does it tell us that someone can say a prayer and be saved. Now I believe it is a great thing to pray to YHWH in the Name of His Son Yahushua and would not discourage anyone from doing just that. Just don’t rely upon that act alone to seal your salvation. Go to the Scriptures for the Truth regarding this. Do not rely upon any man, but rather the Word of YHWH. It is clear that works will not save you. Only through belief in Yahushua will anyone gain everlasting life. Acts 2:36 through verse 42 clearly answers the question: Acts 2:36 “…know for certain that YHWH has made this Yahushua whom you impaled, both Master and Messiah. 37 And having heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, ‘Men, brothers, what shall we do?’ 38 And Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and let each one of you be immersed in the Name of Yahushua the Messiah for the forgiveness of sins. And you shall receive the gift of the Ruaḥ ha’Qodesh (Holy Spirit). 39 For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are far off, as many as YHWH our Elohim shall call. 40 And with many other words he earnestly witnessed and urged them, saying, ‘Be saved from this crooked generation.’ 41 Then those, indeed, who gladly received his word, were immersed. And on that day about three thousand beings were added to them. 42 And they were continuing steadfastly in the teaching of the apostles, and in the fellowship, and in the breaking of bread, and in the prayers.”

      There are many other good Scriptures in this regard. If anyone would like more information about this, please inquire of Dr. Kate for the best method to contact me. YHWH bless!

  40. 104 Clair Reading October 28, 2013 at 10:52 am

    All good points and links but aren’t we going off the original topic?

  41. 108 Tenacity October 28, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    OT There will be an All States Organic Initiative conference call tonight. In addition to presenting the general “Orders of the People” document, we will be answering general questions from callers regarding Boards of Review. The Call begins at 9 Eastern Time or 7 p.m. Mountain Time. The conference phone number is 218-548-3867 and enter code 1776#. This call is for those serious about organizing in your local area for the purpose of government oversight. This is not a call for folks who care to complain or bloviate. If you have been involved or are considering involvement in any County Assemblies or citizen grand juries, this call will keep you from wasting a lot of time and help you maximize your efforts.

    • 110 heather October 29, 2013 at 6:09 am

      They said the Wyoming article is satire–regardless of whether or not it is it’s still bs—I wouldn’t put one in my dog as it is known to cause cancer per all vets.

      As far as retina scans—when I moved to OK and went to get my new drivers license I was shocked that the pictures they took was also a SCAN OF YOUR IRIS! Yes, that’s right and at first I thought – wow how high tech this is for OK, they don’t have this on the east coast.

      So when barry soetoro usurped the POTUS, I realized then that is Iris Scan was exactly what these chips are going to do.

  42. 111 heather October 29, 2013 at 7:31 am

    OT—I have noticed a complete end of chemtrails since the beginning of October – I guess the shut down had something to do with it until yesterday morning when they blasted my blue sky white–and now we are due for bad storms again with possibilities of tornadoes—which is unheard of this time of the year—the end of Oct is the end of tornado season. So start watching the skies again–now that the govt is reopened for business.

  43. 112 no-nonsense-nancy October 29, 2013 at 9:57 am

    This is a bitter-sweet story but it was far, far better than 5 abortions would have been!

    http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/siblings-find-each-other-after-50-years-apart-220757816.html

  44. 116 Edie Wiske November 6, 2013 at 9:30 am

    We are not attorneys, we are WE the People and we are working on Article 5. Please read below:

    Dr. Kate, I have followed your podcast and blog for some time and followed your work with Dr. Manning on the Obama Eligibility Trials and so forth. The Lord allowed me to pray the Tea Party into existence and I’ve been active in a lot of Patriot causes both by prayer and in activism.

    I am currently working on Article 5 Initiatives with Charles Kacprowicz of Citizen Initiatives.org. I know that Mark Levin has popularized this idea, but Charles has been actively working on Article 5 initiatives since the 80s and already had success with getting calls to Congress made by several states on a Balanced Budget Amendment that would have succeeded, had it not been derailed by Phyllis Schlafly and some others who raised fears of a possible “runaway” Constitutional Convention.

    I am writing to ask if you might join forces with us by helping us to publicize and popularize our efforts and the concepts behind them. While our main work is with state legislators, in working with them to pass the States’ Rights and Sovereignty amendment, it will be critical for individual voters to get behind the effort by signing petitions urging the legislators to in fact act on behalf of our efforts and on behalf of We the People.

    The Tea Party has been good at awakening people to the need for We the People to assert our rights under the Constitution, but up until now, has only focused in trying to affect Congressional elections and to change Congressional policies. We see that this is having limited success.

    The next logical step for the Tea Party and for US, as citizen voters, is to actually EMPLOY the powers under the Constitution to re-establish State Sovereignty and States’ Rights in a powerful way.

    We are now moving forward to do just that. Charles has put together, beginning with the States’ Rights and Sovereignty Amendment, a solid strategy for implementing Article 5 which WILL work QUICKLY to re-establish citizens’ rights under the Constitution. He has developed an entire set of pre-written Delegates’ Resolutions and Amendments which we are now presenting to our state legislators for them to put forward to their colleagues so that Calls on Congress can be made for ONE-ISSUE Constitutional Conventions, which will vote on each amendment, one at a time.

    By putting together the Conventions in this manner, the possibility of any “runaway conventions,” in which Democrats or others could introduce other subjects or defeat the amendment being presented, is eliminated. The delegates chosen by the legislatures will not be free agents and will be bound to vote either up or down on the Amendment presented, and both the Delegate Resolution and Amendment are written clearly and succinctly to ensure that this happens.

    Please visit the website at http://www.citizeninitiatives.org to review those documents, if you wish.

    Our strategy is to contact conservative state legislators, educate them as to their sovereignty under the Constitution, help them understand how our Sovereignty and States’ Rights Amendment will help them re-assert that, the VAST benefits to them in doing so (be they conservative or liberal!), to shore this up by getting citizens’ petitions signed and public support enjoined, and THEN to go ahead and put forth calls on Congress to convene a Convention.

    Now, under the Constitution, if we get 34 states putting forward such a call, Congress has NO CHOICE but to convene said convention. It is NOT subject to their discretion to do otherwise.

    We then have the convention, the delegates are sent, and then only 24 states are needed to sign the Delegate Resolution which will CONTAIN the text of the States Rights and Sovereignty Amendment itself. This assures the integrity of the process, PREVENTS any runway convention and also makes a positive outcome assured. Once the Convention has met and has signed the Delegate Resolution, then the vote goes to each state to then ratify the Amendment. 38 states are needed to ratify and then the Amendment is passed.

    Public support is crucial in getting to these final stages to continue pressure on the states to do the will of the people.

    We are working with Tea Party groups and with opinion-makers like yourself to help educate the public as to our rights under Article 5 and to help them to see how accomplishing this is possible.

    I know that Mark Levin has published a book in connection with this, but his approach is scatter-gun, allowing for general TOPICS to be presented at Convention, and allowing for delegates to be free and not bound, thus setting up the very type of “runaway convention” Phyllis Schlafly warned about. Mark Levin and the Convention of States people (who are also working on Article 5) are also unfortunately under the mistaken idea that states must somehow gain “permission” from Congress to convene a convention, when this is NOT the case at all! If you properly read and understand Article 5 and how it developed historically under the Articles of Confederation, you will see that this is not the case at ALL. Sovereignty begins and rests WITH the states, and any assumption that they do NOT only opens the door for actions on the part of state legislatures and individuals to pursue actions that eventually result in a relinquishment of state sovereignty in different ways.

    This happened when the Balanced Budget Amendment was put forward in the 80s and some states thought they need the state governor’s approval and signature to allow the Calls to go forward. The possibility of this reoccurring this time should be eliminated by how the current Delegate Resolution is written and also in how we are now presenting this to the state legislators.

    I would so much appreciate your support in this and publicizing of our efforts, given your accurate understanding of Constitutional matters and desire to see us take our country back, by reasserting our Constitutional rights.

    If we can begin to get these concepts out, get more citizens and legislators on board, and begin to unite and work together with Tea Party and Patriot groups, we CAN get these things done!

    If we ONLY get the States’ Rights and Sovereignty Amendment passed in the next year, MUCH can be reversed by CITIZENS and state legislators that the Federal government has been TRYING to impose, including but not limited to, Obamacare, the TSA, land confiscation, excessive federal taxation, the overtaking of the educational system via Common Core, the imposition of martial law, UN treaties, Sharia law, you NAME it!!

    It is TIME we all join forces and work together on this next most logical step for citizens, Tea Partiers and Patriots to take.

    Please respond and let me know you have received this email. I am praying that you are as excited and energized by this unique historical opportunity as I am.

    In the service of God and Country,
    Sincerely,
    Edie Wiske
    http://www.originalmamagrizzly.com

    • 117 Tenacity November 6, 2013 at 5:50 pm

      Edie, It would be a good idea for you to read the above post and comments related to a Con Con (A Rose by any other name is still a …). Then, if you are working for the CFR and/or globalist, you can just ignore what you read and go on about deceiving people. If you are sincere, then you might want to grapple honestly with the real and inescapable issues/problems with a Con Con and reconsider what you are doing. If you truly love and want to represent the People of these several States, then you will reconsider because right now you are not representing We the people.


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